Mundane To Monster: This Simple Change Made Our Cheap VW Touareg Unstoppable Off-Road!
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) Our VW Touareg is an Off-Road champion. With locking differentials front and rear and now a decent set of offroad tires how does it perform on the rocks? We put the 4.2 liter V8 and potent 4X4 system through the test on the rocks and mud of Colorado. But does the VW have what it takes to conquer the difficult and steep Colorado mountains?
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Imagine owning a lifted Wrangler with thousands of dollars worth of upgrades, only to watch a Volkswagen make it up an obstacle you couldn't. That would be the most enjoyable part of having the Touareg.
Mike A Imagine something breaking on that same trail, anything breaking, on a used Touareg and paying thousands of dollars to fix it. Only to find out afterward that you’ll never get that money back, ever. Takes “money pit” to a whole new level.
That would never happen. A stock Wrangler is better in every way.
To explain why, we need to get into the old debate of IFS and IRS vs Solid axles. A vehicle with solid axles always has the advantage off road.
In one of their last videos they show the touareg keeping up with the discovery, but every suv with a good driver can do that on this track.
The VW is heavier, has worse aproach, departure and break over angles, has less suspension travel (due to the independent suspension), and it's weaker.
I Could do this trail in rwd only. No need for low range when you are flat and just driving in a dirt road. No need for difflocks when not doing hard stuff, because that can snap a half shaft in no time...
At 10:43, it shows how bad the AWD is. Spinning the rear left wheel while the other 3 are still.
The bit at 11:47 is where a jeep would show its colours and keep all 4 wheels on the ground.
I've done way harder stuff in rwd and reverse than these guys have done with 4 low and difflocks...
This thing will never go where a lifted wrangler can go. Just because this thing went up a dirt rd doesnt mean it can keep up with a wrangler in the hard stuff. Nothing in this video was difficult.
@@megarafjogos you gonna say those solid Axles are better when they get hung up on rocks, and get completely stuck where something with just ifs breezes through, right?
@@okigojuryu i dont think you understand the difference. Ifs suspension loses ground clearance as the suspension cycles up. Not the case with solid axles. Trust me ive seen it all first hand leading Land Rover rides. The solid axle trucks make it over the obstacle easily, while every ifs truck got high centered. Lots of variables like tire size and driver skill, but generally speaking solid axles win iver ifs offroad every time other than high speed desert racing.
Those big ATs really transformed the VW. Looking forward to seeing it take on increasingly tougher trails.
What kind of lift do you have on the canyon (your profile pic) I’ve got a 04Colorado and I want to know
They did a quick blurb on the "TFLNow" channel that they were in Moab and were just leaving Hell's Revenge. Apparently "trail damage" happened, but it was still crawling its way out with seemingly no problem.
Hope to see that video soon.
Here's a Behind the Scenes Preview of the next Tough T video from Hell's Revenge in Moab: ruclips.net/video/tuTJb6GQgjE/видео.html
Wow, never in a million years would I ever think I would be scanning craigslist for a used VW Touareg, so I don't know whether to thank you guys or curse the hell out of you, lol
Unless you have money to burn , Don't! Regardless of how capable it may be. That air lift ride system isn't made for real off road or even trailing . I bet if it got used semi-regular , it breaks and will be expensive to repair .
They also have v10 turbo diesel in the Tourag
sfakach t please be careful for maintenance. What year are u looking to buy? I’m an experienced owner of these beasts
We had ours 14 years... wish I hadn't sold it now, but no room in the driveway
Brutus the truck all air ride systems fail with even normal street use, so yeah, it will be a problem sooner or later.
I have a 2008 Touareg and its great that you are showing everybody else what it can do. Thank you.
Roman: besides the G wagon, German vehicles aren't know as good off roaders.
Unimog: Am I a joke to you?
Thats a truck, not a car!
@@gerardjouvancourt5568 So? The G wagon can come with a bed too. Wiki even has it listed as a "heavy duty luxury truck". Australia loves the hd g wagon with a bed.
Isn't a Unimog a Swiss truck?
@@erichtisnado1536 it's made by Mercedes-Benz
@@erichtisnado1536 Not really, it's 100% german!
After watching this video in 2021 I bought 2008 3.0tdi v6 224hp 500Nm at 200K miles Treg. Running on 235/70/r17 AT. AWESOME vehicle. Thanks guys!
Easy climbing with the TDI
Spending the day outdoors with your son making off-road videos is very nice. What a great way to make a living. Well I hope you make a living at it.
Well... out of curiosity, I went and Googled how much, on average, does Google pay RUclips content creators for their ads being inserted.
The answer is between 10 and 30 cents per view, with the average being 18 cents. Multiply this video's current of nearly 39,000 views so far by 0.18 and what do you ya get?
Many of their videos eventually go over 100k views, and they release videos virtually every day... across multiple channels, even. I think they're doing just fine :)
Makes ya reconsider your current employment situation, no? heh
I should amend the above, that pay rate is what advertisers pay Google, but what the content creators get is about 68% of that...
So, maybe just call it an average of $0.12/view for the content creator....
They may make it look like fun but its work producing content. Before, during, and after.
@@krane15, it absolutely is a lot of work. Making it look like fun is also a part of making people want to continue to watch them. They do very good work.
@@dzelpwr you don't have the figures correct. It is something like $2-$4 per 1,000 views. That is then 0.4c per view. So significantly less than your info above.
Very impressive guys. Amazing what a set of proper tires can do for an OEM vehicle set-up for off-roading.
Great video as always! I think one thing as a regular viewer I forget about is just the simple beauty of father and son enjoying a day out! I love off roading with my dad and love how you both share the same experiences :) Hope you guys have an awesome weekend!
I remember lusting after these Vdubs when the first came out. I’m lusting after the trails you get to run in Colorado even more! Good living guys!
I never knew the Touareg was so capable. Very impressed by the machine.Oh and...amazing view up there. Wow!
I know...sucks.
Nice I have a Touareg 4.2 V8 with locking center and rear diff, so this was very cool to see, thanks!
BEST OFF-ROAD CONTENT ON RUclips, THANKS GUYS
I like how Tommy went off roading twice without any scraping and 5 min in Roman already hits the unprotected under side...🙄🤔
Once bitten, twice shy.
@@jaytrock3217 wow, rude.
This is a 4WD show ruclips.net/video/zznPwKc-C8U/видео.html
Thanks guys 👍 these videos helped sell my old Touareg!
Man VW were ambitious back in the day. I think it was the mindset of Ferdinand Piëch that made them go all out, even though he wasn't directly involved with the Touareg.
Excellent! I’m enjoying this series so much!
Love this Dad and Son expedition!
Amazing. Always thought the Touareg is not a real offroader because of its looks and... never heard about all those diff locks, low gear, etc. Great German car. A pity marketing missed it! Great video guys!
Another awesome Video! I like the fact that your pointing out what trail your on and how to get there.
Great review from you two! That VW Tourag is tougher than it looks. Keep on keeping on 😁 👍👍 🤘
Love it! I have a 04 Porsche Cayenne turbo on 33x12.50 mt's and it's loads of fun.
All Touareg owners unite. Let us celebrate how amazing these cars are and how well we became friends with our local VW dealer. Love my V6 diesel. and it has a big spare on the back.
VW Love! Touareg owner here. Colorado Red.
I appreciate how you activate the diff locks incrementally, especially the rear lock. Most of the Cayennes or Touaregs don't have the rear locker so it's good to see what one can do without one! Be interesting to see you push the limits without using the rear locker until you realllllly need it!
I’m liking this series more and more! Great video!
This thing is an absolute beast! No idea this car existed. Really glad you guys are doing these vids, so cool!
Great video . This is like a Touareg advert .No limits . I think many people underestimate these cars. Expensive electronic repairs and propshaft issues sometimes cause issues . I have a 2007 3.0 diesel , air con not working and have just replaced an injector and ECU at great cost , but still love it . Not many around in the UK . It's something different. Look forward to more vids .
Flex pipes are pretty expensive too on the v8
I have a 2012 touareg with the 3.0l tdi. Such a nice car. The ad system its really good. I can punch it in loose gravel and have next to no slip.
Idk why I love this truck so much haha
Bought a 2010 tdi touareg mostly because of you guys.....no air suspension because of MN winters and salt and didn't want silly def. Thank you for all your effort on your videos......
Hey guys! Just want to say that I really enjoy your videos and the editing has been getting better and better!
Thanks for the kind words!
Somewhere there's a V.W. engineer getting teary eyed . Watching someone use this vehicle the way they meant it to be used .
I had the exact same 04 even same colour lol and I put general grabber at tires on it and it was a weapon in our Ontario winters, loved the sound of the 4.2
Just crossed Georgia pass today, started at tiger rd and ride all the way over to Jefferson. Stock 2005 V6 on street tires a few places I didn’t know about but little German Geep just wouldn’t quit. Damn impressed with this ride.
I love it, great video, guys!
Just finished the ride. Awesome 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Wow! Nice, really enjoyed the video...felt like I have experienced it myself! Oh and nice view at the top!
Nice ! Keep the videos rolling.
I love this series I'm a huge Volkswagen fan... I'm so glad you guys did this most people have no idea how well built and capable the Toureg really is.... also most don't know the Toureg and the Audi Q7 and Porsche Cayenne are all the same SUV to start with and then split into the 3 individual cars
Same as modern day. The VW Touareg same platform is Bentley Bentayga, Urus, Q7 and Cayenne
@@kevs2good133 yep
Love my Treg! And i just noticed that i got the same tires 2 days ago and i came across this vid just in time! ❤
Have to point out that German off road vehicles are on the menu for SEVERE off road conditions. The Gwagon is spectacular, however, Unimog is above and beyond what can be considered "normal". I was the guest when we got one mile above sea level in British Columbia in a Unimog on the first weekend of August in 2005 using decomissioned logging roads. The water left in the cooking pot had frozen over from Saturday night to Sunday morning.
I have 2008 Treg 220K miles 3.0tdi V6 165kw 500nm. Max torque is avaliable between 1750-2250rpm. Beast goes effortlessly on every terrain. Fantastic suv.
Loving the Touareg content👍
Aw Man, I was on Vacation in CO and went on a bike ride right through there, sad I didn’t see you guys.
Enjoying your review on a vehicle that most of us viewers can afford. This is is much more real and realistic for us working people ❤️Loved it.
My Father runs a Hunting Area in the Mountains and i remember him just buying these shovel profil tires everytime he bought a knew 4x4
This was a fun review. Great job! Very capable vehicle.
This makes me want to take a trip out with my v10 Treg!
Bill Jackson - I’ve been wanting one of those diesel V10’s. What year would you recommend?
JKC enrich whichever year you made the most money, because you’re gonna need it if it breaks 😆
@@jackchn23, I prefer the 2004 that doesn't have DPFs. Just a couple less things to go wrong, I suppose.
The only downside there is that some of the parts are specific to that 2004 engine, making them even more rare. The DPF-equipped version was made from 2006-2008. And with the change to DPFs also came the addition of an EGR cooler, a different fuel filter setup and location, electric EGR valves instead of vacuum controlled among a couple other small changes. So, parts availability wise, I suspect there will be more 2006-2008 parts available since they were made for more model years.
I will say this, it seems that with the change to the updated bodystyle for 2008, the option for the locking rear diff went away, too. I have yet to see a 2008 or newer Touareg with the locking rear diff in the U.S.
I own a 2004, it has the locking rear diff. I have a customer I replaced turbos on his 2006 and it also has the locking rear diff.
I would be curious to see how well the TFL Touareg does, repeating the same obstacle with rear diff lock on vs off. Might be surprised at how well the brake-based traction system works.
Love the v10! I've always wanted one but due to budget constraints I was regulated to a nearly base v6.
@@jackchn23 I would definitely hold out for a 2nd gen 2008 model
What a great video!!! 10/10
Off-roading a VW is like parachuting when a stranger packed your chute. Altho it is nice that you bring your nephew along.
I got one of these last Sunday . 3.0 v6 tdi . Already loving it . Just road driving at the moment . But with the bad weather we've had in the uk so far this week I think I've made the right choice . Gonna have to get All Terrains on it before too long .
I have gotten my v6 touareg looking at all sky and I thought I was going to have to call a tow truck. I put it in 4low as I only have the center locker and it pulled straight out of trouble. I was shocked and amazed! I also used to live in Bailey Colorado and the winter trips down 285 are dangerous at best. I saw many a Subaru and Jeep Cherokees slipping toward the cliff side or on it. My Touareg with street tires held its line and I got down the mountain to work everyday with not too many slips and slides.
2012 V6 sport owner. I won't argue this thing will kill a Wrangler but outside of major rock hopping it's all around an amazing machine. It's capable in mud or rock. Its FAST, it handles amazing on the open road, and the interior is super comfortable and luxurious. My Touareg is extremely easy to work on too, and so far no problem finding parts cheap. Might be a little harder on an 04...
Thanks enjoyed the views and T demonstration.
Can yall bring back that series where people bring their vehicles and you go off roading with them. You did one a WHILE back with a guy who had a Dodge Dakota and I thought it was cool seeing other peoples trucks. I bet it is hard to get people but once in a while it would be cool.
This is so much fun 2 watch! Greetings from a Nissan t30 owner.
Thank you for thinking outside the box, and try different cars up the trail. Who would have thought that the Touareg was so good? We were all scared to put it to its pace off-road because this "moma mobile" is so expensive...Kudos TLF. The Nr1 go to in off-road guys. A fan from Portugal. Anxious to see it at Moab!
Thanks from Brazil.
Yes. Yes. Finally, it's getting through. Smaller wheels = lighter weight, less rotating and unsprung mass, potential for better fuel economy and shorter braking distances, more comfortable ride, less susceptible to rim/tire damage, etc.
Except they put bigger heavier tires on it, so it throws out fuel economy and braking distance. The only benefit here is more tire sidewall for better ride and less susceptible to wheel damage when airing down.
Heck, you guys were less than 30 minutes from me!! I will certainly go hit this trail!!
I just keep getting impressed by that VW!
Awesome video guys, excellent work👍 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I love this video because it shows the abilities of these otherwise considered “soft-reader” German SUV’s. My family has had a couple 1st Generation W163 Mercedes ML’s. Like the Touareg they sport independent suspension, and a low range gearbox. However, in place of a locking diff it has a clever traction control much like the Series 2 Disco. Would love to see TFL pick up one and dress it up accordingly to challenge this Touareg!!!!
More! Go harder! We want to see the limit! :)
Next video is in Moab on Hell's Revange. Please stay tuned. Here's a preview: ruclips.net/video/tuTJb6GQgjE/видео.html
Can it go on Sea Ground better than a Sub Marine?
Yes! If you ain't breakin it, then you fakin it! Just kiddin, just kiddin.
Great job on the wheel/tire combo
So cool to see this car going offroad, I'll see more of this!
Guys you could consider keeping the beast for good!
Perspective has been changed. Well done
Now I really want to see if the tires were even necessary. It seems like the Touraeg didn't even break a sweat. I say put the stock wheels back on and run it again.
I never had to opt for beefy tires on mine. It always pulled thru whatever has been thrown at it. Street tires no air suspension.
Great video thank you!
I just bought a 2016 VR6 so, I while I do have an off-road option, I don’t have air suspension. I’ve been to Denver, but I don’t foresee me bringing my TReg out there. This gal is really just a suburban driver.
All of that said, I can really appreciate this video. It really shows what this vehicle can do, especially when enhanced. Perhaps, in the future, I’ll be picking up one of these, if anything happens to my current one. I enjoy my alone time and might want to venture out for some glamping over a weekend.
TFL the first people to put classical guitar soundtrack on offroading footage :))
I'd say the Germans make the ultimate offroader in the form of the Unimog
Fun fact, the Unimog has a 2.000.000 to 1 crawl ratio. Two million to one... check it out in action : ruclips.net/video/eAf8hLRS3CI/видео.html
Edd Grs
Can´t be...
@@mindtraveller100 ratio 4063:1
Can you buy Unimogs in the North American market?
Turning the lockers on *before* you need them, doesn't actually demonstrate anything useful. Should have left the lockers off until you couldn't move forward using just the EDL system (which itself is quite good on VWs), then engaged center locker to show its benefit, and go until it can't proceed, then engage rear locker. As it is, there were zero surprises. We know that a vehicle with center and rear locking diff will go pretty much anywhere.
Maybe you should try Slaughterhouse Gulch next time. There are a couple spots that will really give it a workout, but nothing dangerous or likely to damage the underbody.
Having owned a Touareg since last August and taken it through some paces, I don't believe they needed either locker for anything in this video. Mind doesn't have the rear and I've gone up gnarlier stuff than anything shown here with somewhat tamer tires. Yes, the ESP does brake individual wheels, so kinda locker-like.
Excellent, and with my favorite brand of tires too ( I had these on my 2010 Nissan Frontier ),...win, win for me, at least.
Truly impressed !
KO2s are truly amazing, been using them on my truck since 2015.
Love the video 👍🏽👍🏽
Should do a 3 way with a Grand Cherokee and Explorer. All unibody Mid Size SUV's. See who makes the best 4WD/AWD system.
I'd put my money on the V8 Touareg!
Seeing as VW uses Audi's differentials and transfer case, my money would be on the Touareg! I love my Jeep, and I love my truck...but when it comes to AWD systems, Audi's mechanical torsen system is the best, hands down.
Do it guys!
The Explorer isn’t meant for hardcore off-roading. That ship sailed with the solid rear axel. It’s a large family car with AWD.
If this is like the Cayenne air suspension it will either automatically adjust for rough terrain and/or can be done on the fly without shopping. 19mph for the super hi, and the limit for standard off-road level is 49mph.
air suspension,BANG,no air suspension,happened to a guy in club,with a range rover,went up 4",for a few trips,still too low,then sagi one side..2 diffs,transfer box,5 or 6 sp manual,2 lockers,wins every time.modern tech is for the city,leave the city,vehicle stops,burn it,claim ins.,.you want limp mode for 1200 ks.not me..
harry walker holy shit do you love using commas
harry walker
Land Rover air suspension is garbage always has been.
I suggest you look up Cayenne TransSiberia - never had air faults.
I know many Cayenne and Touareg owners with air. Many being 10-15 years old and still works perfectly and still original. The same CANNOT be said for any jeep I've owned with factory coils and shocks.
I'm about $1500 into my touareg. I bought one with bent valves and dented all over, I fixed it myself, resprayed it and couldn't be happier. Same treg minus the air suspension.
The Touareg is showing it’s real off road skills. Now it would be cool to see it vs explorer/Cherokee/Land Rover /other different comparable suvs of its era on a full trail
Didn't VW enter these into the Dakar rally? So, yeah, they have off-roading chops.
They used the Race Touareg rally raid SUVs. They're Touareg inspired, but really a completely different vehicle underneath
and they did Cayennes across Russia which are on the same platform as the Touareg
Mini did
@@iMernerner you mean BMW
Great video
4:30. The guy on the left looked like a mom when her son is going 1 mile/hour over the speed limit
I miss the Samurai and Tommy Jeep videos. But this was a great video.
I have a 2010 3.0L TDI, and I have to say it is by far the best / fun / power truck I ever owned. Just clear off the electric gremlins that comes with it and it would be a real dream ! It goes pretty much everywhere, tows over 7500lbs, handles like a sport car on the road, barely no road noise, etc
We just got a 2012 one of these. 3.0 TDI version. Very nice ride, Very comfortable, Lots of features. Traded the Dodge dart for it.
Solid axle conversion
I am really curious to see how this thing will hold up over time. So far it has been pretty awesome. Maybe compare it to a Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk?
It's a 2004 model or something like that, so it's already around 15 years old.
PLEASE get your hands on a Gen 3 (2003-2006 years with the updated 4wd system) Mitsubishi Montero Limited and test it. I have a 2005 and have only added 32 inch Falken Wildpeak AT/3Ws and it does extremely well off road. Just make sure to hit the button which turns off the ATSC and let the traction control do its thing. Well done fellas!
Wonderful experience
I used to have a 2001 Volvo Cross Country with Goodyear all weather tires and I would take it all over the San Gabriel Mountains in the Lake Arrowhead, CA. area with out any problems. I haven’t seen anything that my Volvo couldn’t handle except some ground clearance issues and maybe the stuck in the mud scene. The Volvo always came through when ever I needed her to. Never had to resort to snow chains eather.
Planning to get one of these
Nice video, and I'm glad you guys are having fun! FYI, any stock Subaru or Rav4 can do a trail like this with a competent driver. I used to drive these very same passes in my 2wd Volvo. Lifting a tire is a sign of inadequate suspension travel, not beastly capabilities. ;-) But still, looks like the VW did well. Next stop, the mechanic!
This series is great!! You guys should fit bash plates to it.
I just fit the same tyres to my Mercedes, definitely transforms the car!
Volkswagen should be viewing this video and bring the Touareg back with all the off-road bells and whistles! 🤔
The current Tuareg has no off road technique anymore.
unfortunately they listen to the owners and they said so they don't need any more offroad abilities as 90% of the times they never used it anyway..🙁👍 they just want heavy vehicle for towing use so they got1 ..🙁
I have never been a VW fan but I would seriously consider this as an option if it was commercial.
@@husabergpower4700 Lie. You can purchase it with the same off road package that had been offered in previous gens
@@ForkInTheButt There is no low range and no diff locks anymore. The off road package includes only Terrain Response System and Skid Plates.
Wow those tires make a total difference in the look, I’d even consider buying one except for future repairs, which have got to be out of this world if needed. Y’all need to add a hidden winch and legit roof rack now.
That VW is super impressive! It was definitely ahead of its time.
I've got a 96 XJ with a two inch lift and all terrains. I'd be really curious as to how it would handle this trail.
You guys should enter into a deal with VW and Netflix and start a docu-series about this car. Honestly, would have been fascinating to see from purchase and follow it through all the transformations to show how capable the Touareg could be. You've absolutely changed my perspective on this vehicle.
The car is ancient from vw perspective. It wont help them sell more new cars.