Cold Turkey: New Hampshire's Prison Detox
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2016
- The United States is dealing with a major public health crisis. Over the last decade, heroin-related overdose deaths have nearly quadrupled. The epicenter of this epidemic is New Hampshire, with the highest rate of young adults abusing opioids in the country. The state is also second to last in the nation on spending for substance abuse programs. Unless New Hampshire residents are able to pay thousands of dollars up front for programs, they're on months-long waiting lists to get in, leaving them vulnerable to fatal overdoses.
VICE News goes to one state facility that is readily providing substance abuse treatment - the New Hampshire Department of Corrections.
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No joke I have been clean for 3+ years. I did it for my daughter. I was taking 150mg of Methadone for 6 years and 3 grams of tar. Plus 11-13 mg of xanax. I quit cold Turkey. I died from it and got brought back to life I was in withdrawal from all these substances took 9 weeks especially from the methadone. I went hell then died then wake up in hell again for 2 months. I did it all because I felt that if I didnt that I wouldn't be able to be there for my daughter and the truth is my daughters love gave me the strength. She is my miracle child that I believe God sent to help me be better person for my daughter, myself, my family, and friends. I am crying writing this comment. People who never went through this will never know the hell. It's not just stop taking it.... :/
The Sevilla Show Everyone was subuoxone, Subutex, etc not an option just for the first 7 days or so?? It’s helped me every time I’ve tried getting clean. But I’ve yet to actually stick with sobriety so far..
U went to hell??? Explain
I said in my comment which is my opinion that alcohol & benzo withdrawal is something you can die from not so much opiates depending on your health you might feel like you want to die LOL
I shared my story here w some1 who asked.I still don't see what I achieved but when I can go away on vacation and not have liquid handcuffs after being in the hospital for so many months morphine and pills I was addicted?(thanx 4 telling me that happen!) And they keep you on methadone forever! thank God it wasn't my thing LOL it's been a few years now as well congrats! He want to do it for yourself but it does help line you have any incentive like your daughter.
Xanax and Benzos etc withdrawals can kill you but no one has ever died off an opiate withdrawal no matter what dose it’s impossible to die from it mix it with Benzos it becomes very deadly
Lost my brother Jeff to a morphine overdose, within a year I was addicted to oxy. Took me several years to get clean but 5 years later I’m 100% sober.
Hang in there buddy
best advice to your children ... "Don't try drugs .... you will like them".....
reference2me yes some people are afraid to tell their children this, for fear of corrupting them, but it’s exactly what they need to know!
not if you in great physical pain , where you can bent over , then what ,go see a Doc and get BUTCHER.
reference2me yup
Bro I’m an addict and I’m fighting the fight everyday man and this is the realest comment I’ve ever seen on RUclips
And the drug will love you and if you keep going back it won't let u go easily
I wish my younger brother could have gone to prison to detox this is a great idea but to late for my brother and our family , i found him dead in his trailer in 2011 and i would much rather see him in prison than not at all. RIP Danny boy we miss you .
mikeysix3 not every prison is like this tho if they don’t really give you the mental and physical help you need no matter how long of a sentence you do with in days of getting out of those doors you’ll be back on the shit
RIP Sorry for your loss. Another life taken too soon.
Danny boy from e mob
mikeysix3 sorry for the loss of your brother. People should not be dying the government is responsible!
mikeysix3 sorry for your loss mate
107 days clean!! To go back most assuredly means death.
Yes or jails or institutions! Addiction is not a joke!
I'm so proud of you and don't even know you. I know how addiction affects the mind and the body, have been on prescribed opiates since I was 16 but never heroin, so I won't pretend that I know how you feel.
I hope that you are still sober, but if not, it's just a bump in the road...NOT A FAILURE!
Sidenote: In my humble opinion those gentleman who have struggled with addiction are some of the best men out there. Because that takes courage, determination, resolve, and dedication. Those are very attractive qualities in a man.
just one more time you can quit tomarow
@@briannotafan3368 you are an asshole
Congrats I got 42 days!! Keep goin bro dont give in ever!
I will never judge another person who have an addiction after I had to detox off a prescription drug a Dr handed to me. Never again will I go through that and I wish it on no one
I feel for these people 😢 my brother has gone more than 6 times through this it's absolutely unbearable and they did not give him anything. Cold Turkey... I myself have been using Suboxone for pain control of my medical condition. Luckily I got the chance to get surgery two times so pain is now mostly gone. I have used Suboxone for almost two years and have been tapering slowly to 1/8th since 2 days ago. I am now without and God this is hard, heart palpitations, vomiting, shivering like hell, incredible migraines... this has been hard, I can't imagine what my brother and these people go through often cold turkey and they used often different and strong opioids in large dosis 😢 may you all find peace and feel good soon. My perspective on addicts has change 180 degrees, they are absolute victims
The slogan on New Hampshire license plates is “Live Free or Die.” These license plates are manufactured by prisoners in the state prison in Concord.
Talk bout IRONY
GROW SHACK settle down spaz
Oof.
Live free or die ....... and they mean it.
No. They aren’t. I’ve lived here my whole life and know people who spent time in concord
Drug addicts especially heroin addicts belong in rehabilitation not in jail! Our country is so fucked up. The prison system is all for profit.
+eric Stoenescu I would hope they wouldnt have to pay. I mean, look at the wait times they are citing.
There's no where near enough free treatment facilities. There's more beds in jails then in rehabs.
+eric Stoenescu Amen, but where is this rehab money coming from?
+HEROIN ABUSER the institutions and the states can benefit from prisoners. Large prisons require larger budgets, which mean more money and sometimes more high paying jobs. Medical, psychological, and many other institutions are given larger volumes of state mandated contracts.
Some states profit by reducing spending in areas where prisoners working for some free-time, extra food, and some spare change ($3-10 dollars daily). Here in California the state saves several millions (or billions depending in the severity of the weather) on fire fighters and landscapers by having low-level inmates for doing low-skill tasks like clearing brush in our forests and picking up trash near our highways.
Other benefactors include the bail bond agencies, lawyers, police officers (by having inflated crime rates, we have to hire more police officers, which takes money from other institutions like the EPA or Department of Interiors and other stuff.)
It's all really messed up, but that is where the lobbying money comes to keep prisoners in cells. There are others, and many are so crucial that the prison system had become similar to the Military Industrial Complex. If you reduced the volume of prisons by just 3%, 3% of a multi-billion dollar system you lose $30,000,000 for every billion dollars. That's several state employees and programs cut all at once. Since 70% of the prisoners today are low-level drug offenders, you can see that reducing $700 million for every $1 billion would mean several companies, and state employees will lose their jobs, and to protect against that, unions and lobbying firms have been created to support the current system.
+eric Stoenescu Yeah very true, and most of the country has come along, and now for minor drug possession charges most courts will refer an addict to treatment. So, what happens then? Addictions treatment services start popping up all over the place, providing one type of treatment or the other. Addicts will be sent to these programs by the courts instead of jail. Once an addict is involved in the treatment program they will generally not have much of a say in what treatment they get, having to go to many group therapy sessions, and a one or two individual sessions, with a recommendation to attend 12 step self help groups. This treatment works for some, but for a vast majority does not, and when this form of treatment is unsuccessful the addict will be sent to jail, eventually released, and the cycle starts again, which is great for the treatment program in the area they have a nonstop flow of money, with 0 obligation to prove their treatment works. A vast majority of society is either uninformed or misinformed about what addiction is. From a young age many of us have been taught that drugs are bad, without really knowing what their effects are, or what addiction to them looks like. The reality is different drugs cause dependence for different reasons, acting on different brain chemicals, with different withdrawal symptoms, that last for varying amounts of time, in multiple stages. Compound this with the fact that everyone's brain and body chemistry are different and you have a disorder (or several disorders) that can be extremely difficult to treat. All of these factors, combined with our country's failed policies have built up over the last century, transforming into the enormous prison/healthcare/industrial machine that we see today. This is not to say that the current forms of treatment we commonly see today should be abandoned. Instead it needs to be expanded upon, with the focus being on the patient rather than the group. As many different options of treatment should be made available to the patient as possible, with the patient being able to make the decision of what to engage in, Instead of a team of doctors, and counselors deciding for the patient what is best for them. The main goal of recovery is to live life on it's own terms. Addicts are slaves to their drugs, and the routines required to obtain them. When treatment is mandated as an alternative to jail in cases of possession of small quantities of drugs the cycle of being controlled by external forces continues. When a treatment center only offers one type of treatment, and requires the addict to engage in forms of treatment that he or she does not believe are helpful, the cycle continues. It is my belief that from the start addicts should be empowered to be masters of their own destinies, as all healthy adults are, and shown that they no longer have to live a hollow existence of chasing drugs. The current situation does not do that, the current situation does not give individuals the choice of how they wish to live. Lastly there is an issue of availability of different treatments, some old, some new, some unconventional, and some controversial. There are many reasons for why some areas have less options available than others. Sometimes it has to do with a lack of specialists in an area, and other times governmental regulations originally intended to help prevent drug abuse have become a double edged sword in that they also make some forms of treatment more difficult to obtain.
10 days clean! Feeling even more grateful now that I’ve been able to have treatment, many people do not get that much needed opportunity. And AA meetings are always an amazing option to give you constant support and principles to follow that help you live clean and sober
Good on you bro! That first month is THE HARDEST! You can do it :) proud of you.
How have you gotten along since you posted this comment? I see it's been a year
how many times did it take u? I'm on my second time clean. I used for 2 years eventually injecting daily. came off for 8 months went back for 2 months and I'm now clean for a few days but im proper struggling
Hope you're doing good now! Just past my 17th month!
@@julianmeredith3125 it's not the same for everyone. It took me about 3 times, but the 3rd time is when I said I didn't want to hurt myself or my family anymore and that was my reason why I'm 17 months sober now
Hope you're doing well
@@Gaetano.94 good keep it up, I Promise It does get easier, you just need to surround your self with Good Ppl
And Honestly Do 90 meetings in 90 days, It will make you feel so Not alone, Cuz Your NOT... 🍀
I've been clean since May 13th 2017! Beat this i ever did!!!!
Been clean since Sept 12 2017
Quitter 🤮 u know u want a hit... come on
@@no.8466 np thank you
Congratulations!
Congratulations, I'm weaning off subutex x 5 years. Can't wait to be done with this s***!
1:35 I like that his screensaver is his dog sleeping. Awww.
first i thought it's the picture of a surveillance camera
I remember my years in rehabs they didn't do anything for me until I got ready to quit , getting clean don't mean your life will be perfect but it will be better than what it was , trust me .
Trust me? That’s what Dicky Bird used to say!
That is true. It works if you work it. You must be ready and you have to do it for you, no one else. Congrats! ❤️🙏🏽
I fell into the trap. Years of prescribed opiates, due to pain. Then constantly hearing that heroin is plentiful, cheap. I sought it, and sure enough, cheap and plentiful. I went thru cold turkey hell, glad to, I will *never* dance with the dragon again!
miapdx Portland hope you have continued sobriety away from such a horrible drug. I've never done it but seen it done... know friends addicted to it and meth.... horrible. :(
miapdx Portland...God bless you! I hope many read your comment and find some hope and encouragement!
Trap, psh. You just enjoyed getting high. You only found heroin through your junky friends.
Take responsibility god damn
miapdx i dont understand this pain people keep talking about. Is this pain unique only to Americans? And why do they get prescribed opioids? Even knowing that they are highly addictive and that they are a gateway to harder drugs. Are there no other forms of treatment to deal with pain.Maybe here in Africa we have bigger problems eg where the next meal will come from... to tackle that we learn very early on to 'suck it up' and prod on with life. Over here, you either work to support yourself or you die... from Nairobi, 🇰🇪 Kenya
Good to hear. It's one year later. I hope and pray your still clean @miapdx
3 years for stealing a weed plant? Gtfoh
American Made try life for a joint, yeah LA. I have no sympathy for these junkies.
3 years for a home invasion.
Life for a joint? STFU idiot.
3 years just for weed?? Damn!!!
🤣
I'm from MA..it's really really bad. I've got just over 5 years clean myself. So sick of losing and burying so fucking many friends and good people. Just the last 2 months I lost 2 longtime old friends. It's horrible man..
Mass? LAWRENCE represent💯
@@dr.zarkov5838Lawtown is an absolute shithole 😂
There are a few things that have been proven to have a positive effect when it comes to drug policy:
* Substitution programs (ie methadone, subuxone, subutex programs). These programs have a much higher success rate than "drug free" treatment programs.
* Medical marijuana (States that have legalised medical marijuana have 25% less overdoses from prescription painkillers than other states. Probably because people use marijuana to treat their pain instead of painkillers)
* Naloxone/Narcan programs and making Narcan redily available - Massachusetts Narcan program has significantly reduced fatal overdoses. New York state recently made Narcan prescription-free.
* Giving drug users treatment instead of prison/jail-time.
* Injection rooms - Injection rooms significantly lower overdose rates, because users inject wiith medical personell nearby. It may seem counterproductive to "help users continue using", but many of the people who visit injection facilities eventually end up seeking treatment. These injection facilities also reduce public injection and reduce the amount of dirty needles that get littered in public places.
Suboxone has saved my life!!!
JoelMatton I agree man... there’s such a stigma around suboxone like it’s a bad thing but like all drugs you can abuse it or you can use it for it’s intended purposes... I’ve been on suboxone now for almost 3 years and it completely changed my life. I never even think of doing heroin. I just graduated college with my masters degree in involved in AA and my church and I have a full time job. Say what you want about drug replacement therapies but I know I wouldn’t be where I’m at today without it.
Marijuana doesn’t cure pain anymore than opiates do. They mask the pain if anything at all. Research has shown time and again that the actual THC has almost no use, but the CBD has shown to be helpful in numerous areas while still having negative attributions, as well.
You are 100% right my friend
Some of those injection rooms will also test your dope for you now to find out if it contains fentanyl so you can adjust your amount accordingly, which prevents a huge amount of overdoses.
I took me 12 times to quit herion/fentanyl. It's a long battle. Leaving your friends you use with and your place you used to use.
God bless everyone trying to quit.
How did you deal with the restless legs and arms? And lack of energy. Depression lack of memory ?
@@Detailpops you just deal with it. i can tell by your comment that you are or were battling with addiction. i used to do what u did, hide in the comment sections hoping someone had the answer, sadly no one did, and im sober now, never been better. u just gotta do it on ur own man, everyone is different. me personally i just had to fight the fight i put on myself, i accepted the suffering of restlessness because i put it on myself, something u gotta do too man.
This Christopher Robin from Ocala ?
@@zyonwilson7127 can't
As a NH native, it’s very sad what I’ve seen happen to people I knew from school or in life. I hope something can be done to help the citizens of this great state.
Agreed Noelle Me too, in Both ways. 🤘keep ya head up doll. 🍀
I did the same thing and told them that I was going to kill myself they kept me in the psych ward for 7 days then released me on foot in the hood So within a half hour I had dope that's how stupid this drug makes us
How are u today?
Yeah I been addicted to sub now for years it's so hard
I feel for these people 😢 my brother has gone more than 6 times through this it's absolutely unbearable and they did not give him anything. Cold Turkey... I myself have been using Suboxone for pain control of my medical condition. Luckily I got the chance to get surgery two times so pain is now mostly gone. I have used Suboxone for almost two years and have been tapering slowly to 1/8th since 2 days ago. I am now without and God this is hard, heart palpitations, vomiting, shivering like hell, incredible migraines... this has been hard, I can't imagine what my brother and these people go through often cold turkey and they used often different and strong opioids in large dosis 😢 may you all find peace and feel good soon. My perspective on addicts has change 180 degrees, they are absolute victims
I feel for your brother. I pray to God that he relieves your suffering. In the 80s, I used to allow weed at parties but the weed was different and turned kids into lazy bums who only cared about the next party. Being that bad I was more scared of stronger drugs “This is your brain on drugs.” Actually worked, for me. I told my girlfriend she couldn’t smoke weed. Then in the 90s the patient’s bill of rights was created and Dr‘s controlled pain with opiates. abuses like pill mills was causing an extra 5000 deaths per year. So the government in all their wisdom used an elephant to go after a mouse, and in the process they started going after and arresting doctors. They illegally inserted them selves into the doctor. Patient relationship. Doctors were terrified of prescribing opioids anymore. The patients were dumped on pain management clinics which under prescribed. So they started using fentanyl and heroin to control the pain. Last year 105,000 people died of overdoses directly caused by the government disastrous heavy hand. Now, they are adding fentanyl to other drugs like marijuana and cocaine, to make them more addictive and increase sales. The government is responsible for the extra 100,000 people, actually extra 1 million people for the past 20 years, all those kids, and all those grieving mothers. And finally they owe me, for the loss of my cousin. we believe my cousin was celebrating the creation of his new business, and he took some cocaine laced with fentanyl, and he died.😢
Mommas tell your kids they are addicted the first time because they will never forget that intense feeling of the pain leaving their body if they take opioids and for the rest of their life the will be tormented every time they are in pain. they will inevitably become dependent and when they run out they will suffer in hell every second of minutes that last hours on and on for days. Stay away from opoids and crack they are guaranteed death kiddos. ☠️
I'm trying really hard to stay off heroin, its everywhere it seems lately. I take it one day at a time
Brian Unc Albert hope you’re doing well bro
You will make it sweety, hang in there you have came a long way
You still sober? How are you doing
That’s all you can do brother. Hold your head.
Stay strong bro, it's definitely a struggle. You never know what's in it these days. Most of it contains no heroin, but some form of fentanyl. Be careful out there. Suboxone works very well to take away cravings.
well im finally out and on vivitrol and 9 months sober and doing great and gonna continue to it feels great to feel again and love life again thanks to everyone who has supported me and my amazing wife my better half my rock
How is vivitrol?? I’ve only heard very little about it.
Thank you for the update @Brian Champion. Keep up the good work! ❤️🙏🏽
@@kid4375 it’s suppose to be an opioid blocker, you start off with taking pills to see how your body reacts to it, and I think then they recommend injections, I’m pretty sure in your butt. You get it once or month or something like that. If you do decide to use an opioid it blocks you from feeling the full effect. So if you use while on it, it’s just a waste of money, you feel nothing. Hope that helps
This was good. Too bad there aren't more programs for drug addicts. I used to use drugs myself and spent 8 years in federal prison on drug and gun charges.
Wow!!! God Bless u...
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You sound like your lying dawg! No disrespect bro!
@@killbiII how can he sound like he's lying when he hasnt spoke. If your claiming he's lying over his comment in text, then you know what they say about assuming... you dont know anyones back story to be calling anyone a liar 🤦♀️🤷♀️
man the dude had rip kt on his arm I wonder why, I hope that drugs don't manage to kill us. all and hope u can stay clean for society. I was diagnosed a few years back and still be wondering what had occurred.
I'm 25 days clean started cold turkey 5/20/2021 today is 6/14/2021 pray for me!! Altho the physical pain is over I know the journey isn't over
You’re in my prayers Justin
🙏❤️🩹
Im about to go do 2 years because ive been on probation and house arrest because of driving with a suspended liscence that got suspended because of heroin... Sucks.. I never hurt anyone except myself or my family.. I have a good job and a good family and a good support system and I have been clean for the last 4 months and counting.. But since I fucked up before getting caught with my drug of choice even though im clean and doing good I have to go pay my "debt to society"... 2 years.. Thats a long time.. I feel like no one is going to wait for me, my girlfriend isnt gonna wait for me etc... I have a month left of freedom... Fucking heroin took everything from me.. and I never hurt anyone except for myself and the people who care about me.. I honestly dont think I deserve to go to state prison for this..
Erik Febbi good luck man stay strong
Erik Febbi Erik, if you're an addict you've probably hurt more than yourself. I know I have.
use the time to your advantage, it can be a blessing man
Get focused
Lace up buddy! You got this! Stay out of trouble in there and you'll be home before you knownit!
Remarkable lack of empathy in these comments.
I know... all these tough guys that think drugs are biased, sexist and racist and only make the "low lifes" their victim... there's just as many "rich white folk" that are addicted. Difference is, they have more to fund their habit, they have better means of hiding the addiction... The way opiates are now a days, I can say with a bit of certainty that the "tough guys" that have so much "self control and discipline" have close friends or even family that have a problem... and they themselves are just as liable to fall victim.
Opiates don't give a rat's ass who you are... rich, poor, white, black, man, woman, child.... it will take ANYONE to see the gates pits of Hell.
agree i was an alcoholic and quit i chose not to do drugs because the things I've seen addicts do
+ganymedeIV4 well said my bro from Ireland
Remarkable lack of empathy when the crack epidemic affected the black community in the 80's. This is karma for white people.
Nabiya Anyone who pulls the race card is a racist. I know white people who have got 40 years for drug charges. If you are a repeat offender you can expect a long sentence. Quit your crying in Thailand they execute you for drug charges but if you are a American you get out in 3 months to 3 years. Those sentences are transferred to the US also you only sit in Thai prison a couple months.
This is actually quite encouraging! It is so great to see a program, even if it is not perfected yet, that has some glimmer of hope to work. All that it seems we need now is to expand upon what works and to cut back on the programs that don't.
3 years clean Oct 9th, 10 year herion addiction, so many friends gone but I live on for them all.
13 months in prison allowed me to get clean off heroin for the first time in ten years......prison saved my life.
19 years in the pen ruined me there was more drugs in there than out here
@@francisdoran8992 If you're not cliqued up, you can't afford it. Prices are insane! Well, you could also sell your body. But if you don't have game in prison. No drugs for you!
@@yannick245 Don't tell me about doing time I speand have my life inside in max.
@@francisdoran8992 Well, then tell me. I did time in Germany and we have a lot more commissary items than in the US. We basically had a convenience store, like 7/11,with cart shopping. And cigarettes are legal, so they are the prison currency. I had to pay serval boxes of tabacco for a little heroin. I wouldn't been able to keep/afford a serious addicton. You only earn about 10 bucks a day. Since I was in the methadone programm I could make a little extra.
Tell me about your story, please!
@@yannick245 bro that sound nice. over here we do hard time it's a zoo .they don't offer methadone so your sick unless your connected I had all the doup I wanted I was never sick. Fir my frist 12 year I cared about nothing I did a lot of dirt. But my last 7 year I smartin up . I got out 2 years ago. And I have a hard time out here .these is a different world . pens here are not like where yiu from
3 yrs for stealing a god damn plant?? from a FRAT house that he was likely in there bc of a party like wtf..
New Hampshire is unreasonably strict. In MA everyone knows not to get arrested there because you're probably going to jail.
3 years for breaking and entering fool
@@erinc8795 it is breaking and entering. charging someone for that isn't being strict, it is following the law.
@@emmanuelk5129 It’s still an overly strict law. 3 years is way too long.
at 30seconds that was baltimore city north ave and penn.... today i got 43 days clean tho ..
Congratulations on your sobriety bro
Congrats... some people don't realize what a long time that is. Good luck with it @Dee!!!!!!!
Dee Awesome keep going. Or worst-case scenario quit again.
I wish you all the best on your road to sobriety. Good for you!
U a star
Good job! Excellent documentary!
Right to the point. No unicorn or rain-bow here and it's perfect like that. 👍
My heart goes out to these guys. Stay strong fellas stay strong
@yagbos They dont sit and talk about how good getting high was, "moron". If you went to a meeting whether on the streets or in jail, NA or whatever program you'd see what actually goes on. It works. But only if you want it to. Meetings are a great way for addicts who TRULY want to get clean stay clean. Next time actually know what your talking about before saying some bullshit.
"Using prison as a band-aid" this guy couldn't have said it better.
I'm a dispensing nurse here in Texas I wish you all the best, Methadone/Suboxone works really well used the correct way tapering slowly. I've seen so much success!!! With GOD all things are possible stay blessed in your recovery!!
That was a good one Vice, thanks.
So happy I live in NYC. It's very easy to get City/State funded treatment here which I have used to change my life. I feel for these people. Jail is a hard place for detox or treatment.
Sadly drugs do make you feel powerful, calm and a sense of extacy. We look to drugs for relief instead of other human beings.
I live in NH, born and raised. In 2018, all mental health clinics and counselors in southern NH were booked dealing with addicts. Other mental illnesses were put on hold with long wait lists, pushed aside for the drug crisis.
Besides drugs in specific cities, NH rocks! I highly recommend. Once you get to the mountains and north country, you don't find this problem. It's hard to be depressed in nature.
Addidas Product placement in jail, nice😒. Gotta love the Prison Industrial Complex
*IF YOU ARE LIKE ONE OF THESE GENTLEMAN WHO IS A RECOVERING ADDICT, PLEASE KNOW:*
The counselor saying *"what are you going to do when you get out and there's no support for you anymore?"*
*That's absurd especially for a DRUG REHABILITATION THERAPIST to say. There are Narcotics Anonymous (NA) meetings everywhere which are completely free.*That upsets me a lot, because when these gentleman are released they'll feel like *they have no support and that greatly increases the chance of relapse. Uggh.*
I was luck in my 10 year run to never od or withdrawal in county. I can't imagine detoxing in a cold, concrete jail.
New Hampshire is still ranked the best state to live in, and the safest state to raise a family for years and years.
3rd lowest unemployment rate
Lowest poverty rate
9th longest life expectancy
We pride ourselves on our friendliness and community belonging. We have no sales tax, no income tax, and no you don’t need to wear a helmet or a seatbelt. We believe the state as a whole does best when people take care of themselves. Government can’t do everything for you.
this is the few down sides of nh(besides the weather and the police)loved going to plymouth state miss it everyday
The lack of treatment for those of us struggling with opioid and/or benzo addiction and withdrawal is disgraceful! The billionaire pharmacutical companies must be held accountable for the production and distribution of these deadly drugs. Happy that Brian is doing well and wish he and his wife a life of happiness. God bless.
I came off xanax a year ago and I went outside to smoke a cigarette and all the sudden i was on the ground seizing and pissing myself
I love being a NH native since there's so much to love about the state, but it's clear we need to do more to help our brethren who are suffering.
One of the most stupid and persisting myths about drug addiction is that you can force an addict to get sober, you can't, if the addict doesn't want to get clean no matter what you do, he or she will relapse at the first opportunity; the second most stupid myth is that if you're have a full-blown addiction you can't quit overnight, withdrawal syndromes usually last for days and psychological symptoms can't last for years; perhaps the most idiotic myth is about 'interventions', they're annoying and useless and they have the worst outcomes.
My son was on heroin and lost a fortune, all spent on his addiction as it went out of control. There was also a huge emotional cost to the family as we struggled to find a way to help him whilst trying to deal with a feeling of being helpless. He went on detox twice but as with all addicts getting it out of the body is only the first battle, getting and keeping it out of the head is by far the biggest battle of all. He is now on the heroin substitute methadone and as of now cannot function without it as the physical aspects of withdrawal still controls his body. He is not the person he was, the happy laugh a minute person we knew is a thing of the past, it is heartbreaking to remember how his life used to be. I hope for all the people a way can soon be found to deal the effects of drug addiction.
I feel for you and your family, my family has gone through the same, my brother has been in jail about 6 times going cold turkey every time. Absolute horror and trauma for him and me and my family. I have been very sick myself with a lot of pain but I was lucky to have a solution and also have severe depression. I'am now 2 stopping from 1/8th of my suboxone dosage and with only that I feel I'm going through hell. Just imagine all the people like your son and my brother who go through much much worse. Please keep it up as a family, stay together, give your son a lot of love, hugs and compliments and hope for the future, I believe this is the only way to really get out of this hellish loop. I feel for you're family and really hope things are getting better now.❤
Portugal had a problem with heroin overdose in the late 90's. We solved it
+Ayla Soares Ya! you legalized EVERYTHING! It fixed crime over there too, I heard.
Spencer Dias Not legal, but decriminaized.
We treat it has a disease, instead of a crime... (at least in small doses) Anyone trying to sell will still be arrested. But if you consume and think you need help, you are free to ask for it in an institution without being scared of getting arrested...
Ayla Soares Which is good, I've seen the statistics and it should be implemented her in NH too.
yeah i think that is the main thing, that people can ask for help without being scared of being arrested
+Spencer Dias Will never happen. We live in a christian white male conservative republican country. That would break all of their rules and upbringing
first they give u a drug that's addictive and then give u another drug thats addictive... its a cycle
87 Cozart And then they lock you up, for being played by the medical/pharmaceutical establishment. It’s a racket.
Im from Manchester nh and the problem has just gotten worse. Literally a month ago i went for a walk on elm street and saw no less then 3 people sleeping on the ground in the middle of the day. I saw even more addicts walking around emaciated asking for money only to turn around and spend it on a fix. The problem is very deep here and a lot needs to be done about it, but the mayor refuses to acknowledge and address the issue
I’m from Manch too!
It’s amazing that the focus of the treatment programs offered in these prisons is achieving “clean” time. An abstinence approach.....that is almost certain to end in a dangerous relapse when the patients leave prison. I think it is fairly well documented that substitution treatment is by far the most effective modal of care for opioid dependence.... it seems almost wilfully negligent on the part of those designing the programs for these unlucky prisoners.
Been a herion addict for 12 years ago. I remember 12 years ago my doctor telling me i was over reacting about the addiction part.
New Hampshire is an incredibly beautiful state. I had no idea of the serious problem in the background. It's amazing how little you glean about the reality of a city while simply vacationing there.
k4nc3r I live in NH it's changed a lot in ten years. In Manchester and Nashua the drugs are out of control. It's scary.
I lived there for a year. Stunning, maintains a wholesome vibe, but getting pain meds there was easier than in California. I kind of feel like they did this to themselves. Not entirely but slightly. Handing out scripts like they were at one point, for everything (at least in Portsmouth) was shocking. I had been clean for months when I got a script of percs for an ear infection. Pretty good sized one, too.
I’m from Manchester everybody sells. moms buy pills off students😂
Holy fuck!! 2-3 grams a day. Thats like $4-600 a day. I recently got help for my heroin habit, and i was only using a quarter gram a day. Glad i got help when i did...
Make sure you stay away from it too. It will not be the same if you go back.. Quarter of a gram is not going to be enough anymore. You will need more. I started the same way and I was doing 3 to 4 grams a day at the end. Prison was my only way out. Lost everything and I mean everything.. . In Boston a gram goes for about $40 bucks but believe me johnnyscifi, it will never be enough.. Stay clean and fight your hardest sto achieve your goals.
Marvin Castillo 40 dollars for a gram for h i highly doubt that. that's half the price that blow goes for h Is alott more
People always exaggerate their habits. There's people in every jail/rehab that "brag" about 2-3g a day habits... and it's always the bummiest/brokest dudes claiming they used $300+ a day.
Jamie Slauenwhite Im from Boston too. He aint lying. $60 tops for a gram..... If you have a good connect you can absolutely get grams for $40 in the city...
johnnyscifi that's 4-600 a day. more like a 100 bucks... if that...
In my home town alone unfortunately most of the homeless people are young and have nothing else better to do but, I keep hoping these kids get the help they need
Dude at the counter of that rehab was making memes when VICE rolled in.
thank u for sharing NEVER give up, no matter how many times it takes you can DO it💪🏾💪🏼💪🏽
Trueeee ❤️🙏🏽
pulling the US troops out of the afghan poppy fields might help
because?
Nowadays the dope is all fentanyl. I thought that comes from China?
@@FireMinstrel there are kits to test drugs for fentanyl. If anyone needs it that is.
The thing they haven’t talked about is how they stabilize patients and what medication they put them on
At age 15 I sprained my ankle at softball practice. I went to urgent care because i could hardly walk on it. I was expecting to be prescribed ibuprofen but instead I got 10mg Hydrocodone (Vicodin.) I loved the feeling of euphoria..thats when my life began to decline. After many suicide attempts to dying off 5 30mg Percocet and coming back to life..I’ve really been watched over. I never used to believe in God I was so altered off drugs I was a totally different person. Anyways in late 19’ my dad said he wouldn’t keep me on the insurance if I didn’t go to treatment so I was forced and since then I’ve been sober over 7 months. Now having a beautiful relationship with God and opening up my heart to the unimaginable in the past. It’s possible guys.. I never thought I’d be sober forreal. But don’t give up hope.
I spend my 2017 in rehab . I just graduated . 1 year sliver . Same thing happened to me I went to shop to buy cigarette I found old friend. And boom relapse . I own 3 cars and great job. Good friends. I lost all of it . After my relapse I lost my family trust . Now trying to stand up on my feet again by my self . 2 weeks clean. Really don't want to go back into darkness :( tired .
I hope you are doing well ❤️
For me personally, I never understood how people got high on suboxone. I always saw it used as a way to combat withdrawal symptoms until someone found their drug of choice.
Dude. Do half a milligram with no tolerance and then get back to me.
2:34 That guy has more food in his jail cell than I have in my entire pantry
All u got in there homes better most of the time Maybe your ist
Good reporting vice....a well balanced and informative view of recovery..from both the healers/facilitators..and the "participants",and good knowledge dropped on trigger awareness...also really good to show a broad cross section of the many different types of people that this can happen to..addiction does not have a class system.does not differentiate..otherwise the rich could be buying and not dying..peace to ya'all😉🤔
You all really need to come .to to Mc.Dowell WV things are really bad here people are dieing right in front my face..My sister being one of them. We really need someone to help.Please think about the seriousness of all the people that we are losing ,,,,,, these people are someone's loved one. Thank you for even reading this.
I live in Beckley WV, it's bad in southern WV
New York is really bad to
RIP ❤️🙏🏽
Amen it's hard to get through 1 second but God will help you don't stop praying especially in the darkness.
Thankyou so much for this piece of information
Non violent drug offenders don’t belong in prison anyways. I’m from Massachusetts right on the Nh border and I’ve been clean from heroin for 3 years. I tried everything, detoxes rehab therapy. The only thing that finally worker for me was medicated assisted treatment. All the worst diseases in the world are fought with medicine, addiction is no different. Addiction is NOT a moral issue, it’s a HEALTH issue. If your struggling and chronically relapse like I was, don’t be afraid to reach out for medicated assisted treatment whatever that may be. For me, methadone completely saved my life. I earned back my families trust, cleared up all my court shit, earned my credit back found the love of my life. I’m 25 now been clean since 22. If your out there struggling just know your not alone and people out there do actually care !
I live in Sandown, NH. Im 23 and its atleast once a season you hear about someone you know overdosing. Its terrible
this is inhumane.... if someone on the outside has a script for suboxone and methadone they should be able to get it when locked up
Hell no
To anyone still using I’ll pray that you find the help you need and God watches over you! For those who are sober, congratulations and keep up the hard work! God Bless everyone! I’m now 3 years 7 months sober from opiates!
Please pray for me. I'm trying so hard to quit but I have not been successful all these years. Planning to start afresh from tomorrow.
I quit alcohol cold turkey 8 days ago, not a drop more, I'm going for 8 months, hopefully 8 years. Addiction of any type of substance sucks so hard
stay strong and pray....1 love.....
In the past year I've lost two friends to heroin. I can't help but feel guilty.
+96jnb So true.
+96jnb why?
Robin E Just feel like I wasn't there. I let them down.
+96jnb you didn't. You can do everything possible to help someone, but addiction recovery is a difficult,complex, lifelong road. It's not your fault you couldn't save your friends.
+96jnb I lost 2 really good friends from dope, and know about 10 people that died from heroin OD in the past 15 or so years. I know exactly how you feel.
Classic example of the justice system failing... Dude is in there over an original charge of stealing ONE marijuana plant. Then, bc he failed a urinalysis on parole, they sent him back. This is bullshit! He came in as an addict and a NON-VIOLENT OFFENDER. He was sent back to serve for the original charge. And then shockingly, starts using again in prison... WE ARE WAREHOUSING PEOPLE!! WHY IS THERE NO REHABILITATION IN PRISONS/JAILS??!!
Kristen Pearce because it’s to much of a money maker for the god damn gov
Because it cost money. Sad to say. The private prisons don't want to pay for it so they make a bigger profit.. state and federal prisons won't fund it to save money as well. :Like you said they warehouse people.
A year sober on the inside is not the same as a year sober on the outside. The key is effective reentry planning with the inmate before and then after release.
Sometimes prison is the only way to get this treatment. A family member of mine is now in the Women’s Prison in NH and she took that option bc she was not getting fairly advocated for. Since the pandemic shutdown I haven’t had the finances to really support her. Luckily she’s getting those services now.I’m really glad you brought attention to the drug crisis in NH.
Heroin detoxes are 14 days max, prison does NOT aid anything for the root problemif anything it traumatises the inmates so much they retrun indefinitely
Last time I kicked it took me 26 days to feel "normal" again.
@@joeya627 Took me 6wks of hell before eating sleeping and shitting became normal again
0:32 "Live free or Die"
Looks like some took that a bit too literally. : P
1:29 I like the dog on the screen laying in bed going through detox and withdrawal .... I hope the little guy turned his life arround
good report :)
I live in Manchester New Hampshire it's exactly like this
Damn, must feel like a shithole sometimes
It does
How many people are also watching this high on opiates? (Oxycontin for myself?)
silverbullet2008bb why would you want to get high on opiates
+JJ I'm not sure if your question is genuine as it seems a little naive but I will assume it is. People get high on opiates because it is a pleasurable thing to do and because it takes away your stresses and problems for the time being. After a few days of continued use you become physically dependent on it so that if you stop you will be so sick and in so much pain you just cannot tolerate it and so you're forced to take more just to feel ok again. I don't recommend trying opiates for this obvious reason. Does this answer your question? If you want more details just ask.
silverbullet2008bb heroin sadly. about to go cold turkey Tomorow
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Jodi Mays , I hope you made it💓
I just wanted to tell you thank you for doing this. I KNOW I’m called to this population of people. As a Christian, I believe the Lord has shown me a few things essential to recovery and this video just confirmed them. We HAVE to get ppl healed of emotional wounds (triggers) & equip them for their purpose as WELL AS make available treatment centers. I have had 2 friends die from heroine OD lately, and we cannot work quickly enough. Pray for me and others who are working to correct this issue, but Thank you ty Thank you a million times over for making this information mainstream. I will see to it- as much as possible within my power- this message (& Video) go mainstream & viral. Ty from the bottom of my heart- April (ha- that sounded a bit dramatic- but y’all it’s HUGE- this is a big deal. Drugs are destroying our families). - April
If someone walks into a treatment facility saying, "I want to get clean of heroin/fentanyl." That person should be admitted immediately. Strike while the iron is hot!
You can't abuse suboxone, id say after the first 4 times you dose it does nothing but make you feel normal.
I had the flu one time and I wanted god to just take me I was miserable I can’t imagine these people going cold turkey and dealing with the symptoms
If you can imagine the flu times a thousand... That's what it's like. Its horrible. Its the worst thing I've ever experienced.
It’s much worse than the flu
@@gsxr2fst498 duh!!!!
I DNT think it feels like the flu at all !! A flu is a walk in park ..u eat soups and rest and start to gt better ..wen u kick dope it's like it gts worse by the day depending on specifically wat opiate u was on weather longer life span such as methadone or short span such as herione among others long story short it's almost as ur in greif , AXIETY is off the roof which a flu doesn't give u panic attacks ..or a flu doesn't make u not sleep for days and days and nights ..I couldn't compare it to a flu
@@Trace-fc7nt I never said it did.
Starting tomorrow 12-11-22,i will be going through the withdrawls of Heroin,Once i'm clean i will never go back/never ever going back to the dark place where i came from.Please pray for me people🙏
Why do people have to commit a crime and go to prison in order to receive treatment for a medical condition?
I remember the day working @ my dad's business had a headache and asked dad for a tylenol, he gave me a percocet 5mg without telling me what it was, I felt amazing, this later led to a novel worthy story that I typed but erased but the big pharmaceutical and gov should be ashamed
That’s how it start I say it takes one time to become addicted
I really feel for the poor people who got addicted because of prescription pain killers. They did nothing wrong, trusted the medical system, and it messed them up.
Back in 2010 I was in that prison, northern new hampshire correctional facility, and it SUCKED!!!
I have lost a lot of good friends because of drugs an I miss them so much I hope people will get clean soon there are far to many family members hurting because of the drugs my heart goes out to those families who have loved ones who have lost the battle God be with you all stay safe be strong an just say no to drugs
"Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?"
There were many that predicted this heroin overdose problem 10 years ago when the DEA and state governments started to heavily fight against the popular pharmaceuticals (hydrocodone and oxycodone, among other opioids). Did they really think everyone was just going to quit because the prices of pharmaceutical opioids skyrocketed? Now instead of having pharmaceutical grade pills that are clearly marked with their tested dosage, you have unknown quality heroin in various forms.
+chownful precise observation of the current zeitgeist of our drug war. hitting hard on the pharmaceutical and synthetic versions only sends the demand towards the unrefined variant.
+chownful its actually the cut in the heroin that is killing people... lots of fentanyl being mashed in..,
dick tracy I agree, but what I'm trying to say is that legitimate pharmaceuticals are almost never cut by the middle men that they go through to get to the end consumer. You know it is going to be 2mg, 5mg, 40mg, 80mg, etc of a specific chemical and only that chemical along with some filler/binders to hold together the pill. I do know that there were problems with fake OC80s that contained fentanyl, but I think it was pretty limited and most fake OC80s were just bunk instead.
chownful
it is safer from the dosing and contents perspective..cant argue with that.. But in tht lies another problem.. The perception tht u are not doing drugs (at least in the illicit drug sense) since it wad prescribed by a medical professional. Because of tht, many people who wud have never been addicts are now becoming addicts. Moms, dads, business professionals and even doctors themselves.. Its
dick tracy My original comment was mainly regarding overdose deaths. The issue that you are describing is a problem with the doctors and drug makers. They are the ones responsible for over prescribing opioids and benzodiazepines while understating their addiction potential for the last 15-20 years.
I live in Manchester, NH. I did 2 years on a 1 1/2 to 3 at this very prison. I was one of the first participants in this drug program. I've had 4 1/2 years sober since then with a few relapses in between. My longest stretch was 2.5 years clean. We need more advocacy on the state level as well from the government... This has been a taboo subject far too long & we need whole communities support/understanding. There isn't enough empathy for the suffering addict
I live in Manchester too! I’m pulling for you!
@@Squirrelbear5950 thank you that means a lot
I wish you luck but nobody put a gun to ur head saying to take this drug. Why put the tax burden on others to help drug addicts?
The dude first being interviewed is beyond sad.
One of th most worrisome issues imo is the transition of the medical profession from being healers to becoming businessmen... 9/10 doctors cant even recite the hippocratic oath, let alone follow its tenets...
every office u go in nowadays this is what u will see--- multiple rooms (at least 6-8) each with a waiting patient... the doctor runs in, glances at chart, asks how u doing? writes a script and on to the next room within 5, 10min tops... that is not medicine... that is an assembly line of profit...
3yrs clean! Kratom saved my life.
Trying to tell my bf to use kratom before he overdose and kills himself just sad
Dont forget youll withdraw from that too if you just cut it out quickly
I love Kratom but I can’t use it anymore because it causes bad stomach pain and puking. Has that happened to anyone else?
I never understood why addicts would get angry by sober people giving advice like “you have to feel the pain” like the woman at 8:30, until I became one.
Wow. Help those suffering.