I've been in Singapore 3 days and 4 days in Thailand bankok. I prefer Thailand 100% over Singapore. Singapore is to expensive shop malls look like super quiet dead.. unlike Thailand always alive and fun. I did like the efficiency of Singapore. And the simcard for data but other than that I liked the food more in Thailand and way more to see and experience so Thailand wins for me.
When you have young kids, nothing beats Singapore. You need safety, service and medical help to perfection. But when your kids grow older, like older teens, you might want a place that is a bit more forgiving (just in case they make mistakes or hang out with bad company) and promote creativity (this requires less strict rules). Also, a bigger world if that makes sense. Singapore is so small that everybody knows everybody, including their mistakes. This probably does not apply much to ang moh, I can’t speak for them, but definitely can be nauseous for Asians. Then, like you say, people need to learn how to live in real world and Singapore is not really a real world. It is like a safety bubble, which is why it is good for young children. Of course this is just my personal opinion.
I used to visit Singapore in the past. But the last time was over twelve years ago. I moved to Thailand. Love it here. It is very affordable and it's safe enough for me...
as a southeast asian, it feels uncomfortable that foreign vloggers pit us against each other all the time. And when they do it, its apparent that there will always something bad to be said about one country. This part of the world isn't built for that. We are a friendly region that embraces our differences. I hope you can all allow us to live our own lives, carry our own culture and not cause division. Its sad that vloggers, social media and the outsiders are ruining it for us.
They come from Europe, and North America. The West has been into division and conflicts for over 2000 years. For all of the present century, the US government and its European vassals have promoted division and conflict.
I like Singapore cos it is very safe and medically well equipped if I get old and sick. It is also very centralised in South East Asia where I can retire a few weeks in Malaysia, then a few weeks in Thailand, then back to Singapore home again. 😄✌🏼
I love Phuket and the chill lifestyle. BUT when it is living there, there are so many things I would prefer Singapore in a heartbeat. 1) Public transport is very limited and 'flexible' timing. I once took their local 'bus' Song Taew. Oh man, it was a very slow ride. Of course they have bolt, grab and indrive, but it is not as cheap as we imagine. 2) If you need to engage any help for maintenance for Phuket apartment, my unlucky experience is they are also not very responsive. I called it 'Phuket' time. I have to remind I am not in Singapore so don't expect Singapore response time. 3) Water is not safe to drink from tap in Phuket. So just imagine how many plastic bottles have been accumulated in Thailand. 4) Electricity. I do find that electricity is cheaper(>10%) in Singapore compared to Phuket. And not to mention, it is not uncommon to experience blackout in Phuket as the cables are not built underground. Any accident or storm that damage cable lines can cause power failure easily. 5) Annual monsoon season. The flooding situation is not getting better in the annual monsoon season. Phuket drainage system is not built on effective flood control system. So whenever they experience massive rainfall, the flooding do get out of control. Recent flooding cases caused some landslides and houses to be washed away. I would definitely visit Phuket regularly but I don't think I would ever call it my home.
Finished watching the whole video just now and as someone who used to live and run business in Phuket 10+ years ago and now living in Singapore, my take is Phuket is great if you're single or married with no kids, but as a family with kids, Singapore is much better (Though schooling can be a bit too competitive at time)
I live in Thailand for over 10+ years with multiple visits to Singapore as a tourist. Personally, I would never live in Singapore. It's too boring. The entire country of Singapore is smaller than the smallest US state (Rhode Island). Thailand is more relaxed, better cost of living and value, better food (my personal opinion), and it's a bigger country so you have more options to travel within it's borders and explore everything Thailand has to offer. Even if you want Singaporean food, there are many Singaporean nationals that have relocated to Thailand and opened up Singaporean restaurants so you can get it no problem. Healthcare at the top private hospitals in Bangkok is excellent, public transport in Bangkok is very good, etc. Also, personally I'm a "car guy" / car enthusiast, and the ridiculous government restrictions in Singapore on modifying cars would really make this hobby unenjoyable. You have these crazy COE certificates and excise duty taxes making cars only affordable for the super wealthy. A big turnoff for me. Did I mention that Thailand is more relaxed yet? Thailand has decriminalized marijuana and it's now legal for recreational use. Personally, I do NOT smoke at all, but the fact that in Singapore, you can get the death penalty for posession of marijauna is absurd. But then again, I don't have kids. Singapore does have a better education system (i'll give you that), but this doesn't apply to me at this stage of my life.
Haha… somehow I’m afraid you might leave us… but hey, it’s always ok to live life to the fullest… no matter where you are, we will be happy for you and your family… hehe… glad you already called Singapore your home.. welcome back Max. 😊
The comparison is irrelevant; don't understand why people still try to compare orange and apple 😅😅😅😅. One is a developed city while Thailand is an emerging country!. And SG is one city/country while Thailand is a whole country and one can't expect to have the same organised things that can be found in SG. Tout should compare SG with Dubai or Tokyo for instance, and compare Thailand with Malaysia or Vietnam. 😂 Don't compare Dubai and Manila for instance; completely irrelevant 😂😂😂😂😂
Fact is, a comparison such as this is not an apple-for-apple comparison. So, it boils down to at what stage of our lives are we at, and what are our current (including shirt and long-term) priorities are, and which country offers the best environment (assuming one has a choice). No country is perfect. As a Singaporean, I take advantage and enjoy all the “good” she offers, and learn to manage the “bad” including providing whatever necessary alternatives for my children (if they are critically lacking). Still, I did enjoy you sharing your perspectives. For those who are fortunate enough to have healthy financial stability, perhaps appreciating our homeland while enjoying the occasional/seasonal getaway either to our favourite getaway or some interesting alternative experience is probably the best way to enjoy the best of “both worlds” or “rich world”.
I am Singaporean , I think if you are a digital nomad? Stay in Thailand. You can keep Singapore PR for business purposes. But Thailand is a place for you to rest :) Envy your mobility I wish you best of luck
Grass is not always greener on the other side . But happy for you that you found a place. There will always be a better place somewhere that not being discovered.
I’m from Singapore….retired and financially secure….I have to say Singapore is way too expensive and too sterile to have a comfortable life as compared to some of the other South East Asian countries…..it’s just that constant rat race here. I feel sad for the younger generation who now have to compete for jobs with an over influx of foreigners, public housing and housing loans being really out of reach for young people starting out in life, medical cost that just keeps rising and not to mention the ridiculous prices of cars due to the COE (entitlement to drive a car for 10 years). I was born and bred here but not gonna retire here….I spend my retirement moving from one country to another in South East Asia to enjoy the good life that was once found in Singapore and is no longer a reality. Having lived in Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and Thailand….these places have the warmth and exhibit the true quality of life that I cannot find in Singapore…..I’m currently in Thailand and treasuring every moment here.
@@crisg5807 Thank you sir for writing the truth. Foreigners outside ASEAN region who are not familiar must read this accurate comment about the reality on the ground.
u are right in many ways. but if you think you should be allowed the freedom to move to other foreign countries to retire based on your own financial and personal needs to benefit yourself, foreigners should have the similar freedom to move to singapore for jobs based their own financial needs to benefit themselves.
If you like city life, Bangkok is modern and advanced. You can get pretty much everything here. Whereas, Singapore is great but the price is also great. If you are ultra rich, Singapore is the heaven
@@babibrain Singapore is actually even better when you are the average Joe/Jane on the street. You get clean air and clean water. Public toilets are a lot cleaner. The city is generally cleaner. Bangkok may be cheaper but you are breathing in polluted air, the streets are so dirty and there is a persistent bad smell in the air. Plus at night time, Singapore is safe and brightly lit-up EVERYWHERE. In Bangkok, most places are still dark and dimly lit, and is not safe. Guess who among the rich and the average have to be the ones to walk those dark streets at night?
Singapore is sooo advanced in almost all aspects, both the people and the country itself, though very expensive. Thailand, on the other hand, is still gradually developing and trying to learn things from other already developed countries. Personally, I think it's gonna be quite a few decades before Thailand could be comparable to Singapore. By the way, because these two countries are so close in distance it's best to live and work in Singapore, if you can afford it, and then spend nice long weekends and holidays in Thailand.
Singapore asian parents are different from the western parents, particularly SG parents.When something happens to their children, they start blaming the government ( why like this, why like that, why didn't the gov do something about it ) the blames are on the gov but not on their children carelessness or their responsibility.Singapore children are too protected and pampered.Its their parents responsibilty to mould their children and teach them to be responsible of themselves ( be independent )and show consequences of their action ( with careless decision ) but with a full guidance and advise from parents.That's how children learn
In the end, its up to you which country you're comfortable living in. Both countries have its pros snd cons. So we can't really say this country is beyter thsn other. In the end, it what your heart feels like home.
In ASEAN, honestly the best place to raise kids and work is Singapore. The dynamism there drives fast upward mobility, if you respond positively to it. Kids get the best education and you get top dollar for your work effort. The sociopolitical environment also help promote great efficiency, safety and productivity, driving towards excellence. These are great motivational factors when one is younger. Once you are of retirement age, your personal conditions change. If you need space to explore and travel, Sg is not the place for you as it's limited by it small island.
Max, from what you said about payment in Thailand 🇹🇭, I think Singapore 🇸🇬 is more advanced in terms of how everyone uses credit cards 💳, or QR-code paying for food and other purchases . It’s just my opinion from what I see in Singapore from my recent visit to Singapore 🇸🇬.
This is the thing, Singapore is truly for the elite. If you are wealthy, have a good job or run a successful business at a certain volume, Singapore is a pretty strategic location. Singapore too small ? With that kind of money, you can travel anywhere abroad living in singapore with better flight routes albeit higher flight ticket prices.
In SG when someone gets hurt from anything like a mishap, people start complaining and blaming the government/company, "why isnt there any security guard, why isn't there a fence".
Everyone needs to travel out of his/her home to experience and compare, be it self-planned exploration of countries or in packaged tours. For you, Max, I guess you love the safety and stability in Singapore. That's why you chose here to be your base. Not as if Singapore has nice sceneries or super-relaxing and slow-pace. It's because Singapore suits you and your family.
Thailand you get to enjoy driving all over the beautiful country. Whereas you're trapped on the tiny Singapore island. And if you don't drive there it's a big step down without the car. A playground for the ultra rich.
Flight from Singapore to Phuket is about the same as Bangkok to Phuket. Changi is more efficient and overall nicer to spend time at. So living in Singapore is hardly any different from living in Bangkok if you want to visit the islands.
Wow!🤩 I really liked this video. I have been living in Phuket for over 12 years. I think this is the best video comparison of Singapore and Phuket. Waiting for you again in Phuket, my dear friend Maxim❤🫂
If you have kids, I think Singapore is the best place in terms of safety, stability, efficiency and predictability. Comparing it like this is not really fair because you are comparing mundane day to day lifestyle to a holiday mode. Anyway, Singapore is so near to all these places, Phuket, Bali, Goa etc and with today's budget air prices, keeping holidays as holidays will be much more fun.
If u are working all the time your reality is not the city or Singapore. Your environment daily is just the office or in the room staring at the wall. You can do that in iceland or remote galapagos islands. Your prevalent reality experienced is not Singapore but office and wall. Then it doesn't matter where you live.
I’ve been living in Bangkok, Thailand, since 2016. Have been to Phuket many times. Phuket is not as safe as Bangkok. Leaving your car unlocked, with the keys in it, is far from a good idea. Secondly, Phuket is not as safe as Bangkok. Traditional Thai families do not even visit Phuket. Phuket and the south are influenced by the religion predominant in Malaysia, and it has local clans. It’s not rare to find elderlies in Bangkok who say Phuket is almost a different country within Thailand. The local clans make Phuket an environment way more challenging than Bangkok or other Thai cities. For example, they dominate the transportation system, preventing Grab (the local Uber) to operate there. On top of that, we find Westerners and Russians retired or party mads. It’s not a place for young, ambitious, workers or entrepreneurs, in my point of view. A more sensible comparison is between Singapore and Bangkok. But for this we need another video LOL
Really? With all that vices in Phuket, I thought they would be more conservative if you say they're influenced by Malaysian religions but they are far more 'liberal'?
I worked in Bangkok for 1 year. Honestly on an average, cost of living in Bangkok is still lower than Singapore. Subways are ok in Bangkok except that it is more crowded than Singapore especially during peak hours. Public buses are a little less convenient and some are pretty old and can be quiet confusing if you are not used to it and the traffic jams can be quite a nightmare. The good thing about Bangkok it the rich diversity and a more relax environment. I never considered Thailand a land of smile as outside the shopping malls, away from the shops, people can be pretty rude. One thing for sure is the air quality in Bangkok is terrible with all that traffic.
Thailand overall is a very dangerous country, the highest country with gun related crime is Thailand and most of the suspects are siam Buddhist including those thai lady boy
Unfair comparison. I don’t like Phuket after going there 6 times. Phuket is not Thailand. It’s a tourist trap. Try somewhere else in Thailand for a better comparison. Thailand is actually quite lovely especially compared to SG
@@mohdfaizmazlan2885retire konon, sekarang orang asing datang pon tak terurus, dari china, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan tersebar seluruh Malaysia beli tanah sana sini, sehingga orang tempatan tidak selesa dan banyak yang datang dengan surat untuk kerja takdan berapa hari lari dari majikan menjaja jualan di tepi jalan tanpa permit, yang lari hidup dalam kawasan pendalaman pon banyak, ni sekarang kau nak tambah lagi
Good take on raising children. I’m boomer generation and we were NOT coddled. You learned fast you could get hurt bad not paying attention and developing a good sense of your surroundings. We had rock fights, bicycled everywhere, climbed dangerous towers and rock faces, rode horses bareback, etc. Too many American kids today are weak and delusional from overprotection.
Hey Max, when I read the title of your video, my heart sank. I thought we will be losing you. What a relief. But seriously, as long as you are happy and producing great videos, we should be happy for you wherever you may be. Perhaps you may consider longer period of stay in another place whenever your children are having their school holidays. It would be a great holiday for them and a break from the monotony for you too. I can understand that international RUclipsrs are very mobile, but I hope we can have you for a longer period of time. But I think if your kids can complete their education in Singapore, it would be good for them.
I absolutely love this video. It captures the reasons why i move out of Singapore to Thailand. I love living in Thailand. Singapore is so controlling its not enjoyable. The government is constantly telling you how to live your life.
In Thailand, you meet people who are not so friendly. Maybe he is not a real Thai. Maybe he or she is a Chinese who always looks grumpy. And many guest workers come from Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and India. There are several millions in Thailand. There are especially many Burmese people. And another thing: you are in the southern part of Thailand. The people in the southern region have different personalities than the Thais in the central region. And Thais from other regions
Quite surprised that you found Phuket safe. Maybe snatch thiefs/petty-theft incidents are not as common, but I know of two couples who were robbed at their hotel/resort, which is rather alarming.
Max, you seem lost in the world always drifting here and there not knowing where to settle? Or if I guess correctly, you're actually harboring a desire to get SG citizenship?
1- Singapore is a Racist country : CMIO give 85% of all visas to "Chinese race", mention Chinese owner on rental listing, "need to speak Chinese on job that doesn't require it ruclips.net/video/KM9aWtndszE/видео.htmlsi=6mvH5nx3nD8HWd8M 2- Real estate is a very overpriced money laundering scheme where money launderer from China park their dirty money and let the unit empty. Using the money to pay cheap construction worker paid 700 Sgd to build more hdb and condo to attract even more miney laundering. Real estate cost 2M for a piece of concrete which cost 100k elsewhere, surrounded by noisy neighbours who put washing machine at 3am and get some KTV sex workers at 4 am where 0 noise pollution law will protect you. The condo have a 50 years lease meaning you pay millions for something you don't own (absolute meme). Same for the cars, 100k for a basic car which you need to throw in 10 years hahahaha. 3- Nature : Manmade macritchie a small east coast walk. End of story can see it all in 1 day with pulau ubin. 4- Peoples are manerless and greedy listning to full blast phone in restaurants and dodging queues. Horrible... F- tier
drifting about here and there is his work. why do you think we watch his youtube channel here. most of us have to stay, work and live in one spot. max is doing the moving about and telling us about the experience of living in other places. SG is great in many many aspects but it's pretty darn boring and expensive. Just how many times do you want to visit Gardens or gamble in Marina. The really really 'fun' places are only accessible to the ultra rich.
hey, fantastic. definitely absolutely Thailand. You won't regret it. what's the name of your Rawai villa? thinking of visiting there and stay for a short while so probably can consider the one you featured.
Me again,so I have been to 154 countries and territories and Bangkok is the best city in the world for what quality and for the cost,I could never afford to live in Singapore or Hong Kong and I have been married to a Thai for 38 year,
As an expat living in Malaysia, I would view Thailand as the place to relax for a weekend holiday especially for certain demographics who would need a relief from some restrictions here in Malaysia. Besides, Thailand is like our backdoor neighbour if we need to throw parties or ''get loose'' once in a while.
I think speaking fluent Thai is important for long term living in Thailand. Phuket is a fabulous place to relax and chill. Been going there frequently for past 25 years.
Max, good morning 🌅 to you from Hong Kong 🇭🇰 I suppose you should stay in Singapore 🇸🇬 instead due to the safety and the best in education right ahead of Hong Kong 🇭🇰 SAR.
As a Singaporean, I say NO to your comment that Singapore is a good choice for retiring?!! Really?!! For work yes, as many foreigners esp from neighbouring countries come to SG to wotk and earn SG $$, but retire back home with a higher std of living using the S$ they have earned. Singaporeans can do the same too when they have retired, but not being locals in those countries there might present some challenges.
Max, what car rental company did you use? Curious because I rented twice in TH so far, thankfully no scratches both times, but I wanna know which company is more "picky" about such things ;)
I’d have to agree with the Nomad Capitalist, Kuala Lumpur is a far better place to live and more value for money, greener better environment than either Thailand or even Singapore. His latest RUclips upload re-confirmed that.
Im singaporean and would like to comment on the current Phuket situation, have been there as tourists for 3 times. Recently, we have been thinking we will not go back to Phuket again for holiday. One, a total rip off during each and every 'songtaew' and Grab or tuk tuk ride. Two, No more good services, or smiley faces but more curt and rude faces at the hotel. Three, we have seen many times, the local police stopping all the foreigner motor bikes with road signs demanding for a proper International driving permit, otherwise you will be fined. Four, there are simply too many Russian long stayers at phuket which drives up the local food, tuk tuk rides, property prices. I have nothing against any Russian tourists , but there are really too many in Phuket that i though that i am in Russia and not in Phuket, thailand.
U should leave Sg.. The fact u made a video to compare means u not happy being in SG. U stay in condo in sg, ur kids are in good school and is always safe and i beleive u and ur wife have good job in sg. U even have a helper. Not many singaporeans have what u have. Singapore is an expensive, small and strict place. Go to other country where have more freedom , cheaper and bigger . 👍
Most of what you share I agree, like about 'smile' yes, that was what I felt the same way they were having for Thais, people. I am glad you share about this because if I would/will tell, explain and share in the social media I could not how to describe it. I had been to Phuket once and yes; we have the same though and feeling that Phuket was not very walkable compared to Singapore and in Bangkok. Since I am a city type of person, I prefer more in Bangkok than in other parts of Thailand because it have similar public transport by MRT/BTS trains. I cannot swim well so seaside place I have less interested, but it has better fresh air surrounding in Phuket, Hua Hin and Chiang Mai. I am not sure if you have notice about safety crossing roads a little/quite different situation when you use zebra crossing anywhere both in Thailand and in Singapore. Most of the vehicles drivers in Singapore would/will give way at zebra crossing including traffic junction but not always happened in in Thailand main roads and junctions, the drivers only give way and slow down sometime when they were/are about 100 meters away from zebra crossing might/usually give way.
phuket just tiny district in Thailand you cannot judge whole country by a little tourist places, you should compare Singapore vs Phuket not vsThailand beacause its tiny area alike
Locking up is something you'll need to do. Avoid regret that you didn't safeguard your property and family. Be safe, and watch over your kids, there's real danger of losing them to human traffickers. Be safe.
Have you ever thought of interviewing some interesting personalities from China, or those that have migrated to Singapore (provided they speak Eng)? I've yet to see one, though I'm not sure how truthful they can be when ask to make comparisons between their adopted country and China.
Super nice video, and honest to. What safety for the kids look out sometimes the fun (5 min. in the back or the car) can have enorm impact of the rest of her life. Same as the fun park, no helmet. (if she hit here face the party is total over). But they are your schildren. Same as the pool super nice but with the little one look out. You will not be the first one wou did not look for one sec. and it is over. Just a warning. But the video👍
As a tourist shopping experience? Every mall is basically identical, Uniqlo, Cotton On, Cold Storage, Denki, Challenger, no diversity... Feels like a dejavu, a glitch in the matrix 😂😂😂
Going for holiday and living are two totally different things. Put aside cost of living there is many others factor to be considered for living specifically with family.
You appear to use European architecture as a reference point, as do most people who are familiar with it; I believe this may be a bit biassed, but to each their own. I believe that monoculture, in which there must be a specific look, benchmark, and so on, has a limited vision.
Absolutely a wonderful place to explore. That is awesome and interesting living in Thailand after Singapore. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the day, my friend. 👍👍
My choice is Thailand of course. Singapore cannot offer a high quality of living. Thats why i moved from Singapore to Thailand. Thailand offers 10x higher quality of life
Thailand or Singapore?
Thailand for tourism and Singapore for living for an average Joe.
Thailand. Not even close. Real country
I've been in Singapore 3 days and 4 days in Thailand bankok. I prefer Thailand 100% over Singapore. Singapore is to expensive shop malls look like super quiet dead.. unlike Thailand always alive and fun. I did like the efficiency of Singapore. And the simcard for data but other than that I liked the food more in Thailand and way more to see and experience so Thailand wins for me.
When you have young kids, nothing beats Singapore. You need safety, service and medical help to perfection.
But when your kids grow older, like older teens, you might want a place that is a bit more forgiving (just in case they make mistakes or hang out with bad company) and promote creativity (this requires less strict rules). Also, a bigger world if that makes sense. Singapore is so small that everybody knows everybody, including their mistakes. This probably does not apply much to ang moh, I can’t speak for them, but definitely can be nauseous for Asians. Then, like you say, people need to learn how to live in real world and Singapore is not really a real world. It is like a safety bubble, which is why it is good for young children.
Of course this is just my personal opinion.
@@Pim-v4h I'm focusing more on comparing these two places for living, not for tourism-especially not for short stays like 3-4 days.
I used to visit Singapore in the past. But the last time was over twelve years ago. I moved to Thailand. Love it here. It is very affordable and it's safe enough for me...
as a southeast asian, it feels uncomfortable that foreign vloggers pit us against each other all the time. And when they do it, its apparent that there will always something bad to be said about one country.
This part of the world isn't built for that. We are a friendly region that embraces our differences. I hope you can all allow us to live our own lives, carry our own culture and not cause division. Its sad that vloggers, social media and the outsiders are ruining it for us.
@@kristinhannah001 provocative topics create traffic and increase subscription.
@@jjhenry3338at our expense?
They come from Europe, and North America. The West has been into division and conflicts for over 2000 years. For all of the present century, the US government and its European vassals have promoted division and conflict.
Except Singaporeans do this exact thing when comparing western countries
Max you’re blessed with lots of choices for a comfortable lifestyle. Your family happiness is in your decision.
I like Singapore cos it is very safe and medically well equipped if I get old and sick. It is also very centralised in South East Asia where I can retire a few weeks in Malaysia, then a few weeks in Thailand, then back to Singapore home again. 😄✌🏼
Up to you where you wanna live no one will stop you
@@unclesin96 so where do you want to die ??
Great life. looking forward for my retirement lolz
Uncle Sin, can bring me play in Malaysia and Thailand. Which ladies u recommend?
I love Phuket and the chill lifestyle. BUT when it is living there, there are so many things I would prefer Singapore in a heartbeat.
1) Public transport is very limited and 'flexible' timing. I once took their local 'bus' Song Taew. Oh man, it was a very slow ride. Of course they have bolt, grab and indrive, but it is not as cheap as we imagine.
2) If you need to engage any help for maintenance for Phuket apartment, my unlucky experience is they are also not very responsive. I called it 'Phuket' time. I have to remind I am not in Singapore so don't expect Singapore response time.
3) Water is not safe to drink from tap in Phuket. So just imagine how many plastic bottles have been accumulated in Thailand.
4) Electricity. I do find that electricity is cheaper(>10%) in Singapore compared to Phuket. And not to mention, it is not uncommon to experience blackout in Phuket as the cables are not built underground. Any accident or storm that damage cable lines can cause power failure easily.
5) Annual monsoon season. The flooding situation is not getting better in the annual monsoon season. Phuket drainage system is not built on effective flood control system. So whenever they experience massive rainfall, the flooding do get out of control. Recent flooding cases caused some landslides and houses to be washed away.
I would definitely visit Phuket regularly but I don't think I would ever call it my home.
Fully agree! People should not confuse tourism with permanent living in the place.
Finished watching the whole video just now and as someone who used to live and run business in Phuket 10+ years ago and now living in Singapore, my take is Phuket is great if you're single or married with no kids, but as a family with kids, Singapore is much better (Though schooling can be a bit too competitive at time)
@@I_am_cooked_For_Life Reality is your kids suffer.
@@I_am_cooked_For_Life this guy got failed business in Phuket !!
I live in Thailand for over 10+ years with multiple visits to Singapore as a tourist. Personally, I would never live in Singapore. It's too boring. The entire country of Singapore is smaller than the smallest US state (Rhode Island). Thailand is more relaxed, better cost of living and value, better food (my personal opinion), and it's a bigger country so you have more options to travel within it's borders and explore everything Thailand has to offer. Even if you want Singaporean food, there are many Singaporean nationals that have relocated to Thailand and opened up Singaporean restaurants so you can get it no problem. Healthcare at the top private hospitals in Bangkok is excellent, public transport in Bangkok is very good, etc.
Also, personally I'm a "car guy" / car enthusiast, and the ridiculous government restrictions in Singapore on modifying cars would really make this hobby unenjoyable. You have these crazy COE certificates and excise duty taxes making cars only affordable for the super wealthy. A big turnoff for me.
Did I mention that Thailand is more relaxed yet? Thailand has decriminalized marijuana and it's now legal for recreational use. Personally, I do NOT smoke at all, but the fact that in Singapore, you can get the death penalty for posession of marijauna is absurd.
But then again, I don't have kids. Singapore does have a better education system (i'll give you that), but this doesn't apply to me at this stage of my life.
Haha… somehow I’m afraid you might leave us… but hey, it’s always ok to live life to the fullest… no matter where you are, we will be happy for you and your family… hehe… glad you already called Singapore your home.. welcome back Max. 😊
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The comparison is irrelevant; don't understand why people still try to compare orange and apple 😅😅😅😅.
One is a developed city while Thailand is an emerging country!. And SG is one city/country while Thailand is a whole country and one can't expect to have the same organised things that can be found in SG. Tout should compare SG with Dubai or Tokyo for instance, and compare Thailand with Malaysia or Vietnam. 😂
Don't compare Dubai and Manila for instance; completely irrelevant 😂😂😂😂😂
i agree with you about letting kids learn about 'dangers' and being responsible for their own actions.
Fact is, a comparison such as this is not an apple-for-apple comparison. So, it boils down to at what stage of our lives are we at, and what are our current (including shirt and long-term) priorities are, and which country offers the best environment (assuming one has a choice).
No country is perfect. As a Singaporean, I take advantage and enjoy all the “good” she offers, and learn to manage the “bad” including providing whatever necessary alternatives for my children (if they are critically lacking).
Still, I did enjoy you sharing your perspectives.
For those who are fortunate enough to have healthy financial stability, perhaps appreciating our homeland while enjoying the occasional/seasonal getaway either to our favourite getaway or some interesting alternative experience is probably the best way to enjoy the best of “both worlds” or “rich world”.
I am Singaporean , I think if you are a digital nomad? Stay in Thailand.
You can keep Singapore PR for business purposes. But Thailand is a place for you to rest :)
Envy your mobility
I wish you best of luck
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I don’t want to rest haha (for now)
@MaxChernov well are you pr in sg
Grass is not always greener on the other side . But happy for you that you found a place. There will always be a better place somewhere that not being discovered.
I’m from Singapore….retired and financially secure….I have to say Singapore is way too expensive and too sterile to have a comfortable life as compared to some of the other South East Asian countries…..it’s just that constant rat race here.
I feel sad for the younger generation who now have to compete for jobs with an over influx of foreigners, public housing and housing loans being really out of reach for young people starting out in life, medical cost that just keeps rising and not to mention the ridiculous prices of cars due to the COE (entitlement to drive a car for 10 years).
I was born and bred here but not gonna retire here….I spend my retirement moving from one country to another in South East Asia to enjoy the good life that was once found in Singapore and is no longer a reality.
Having lived in Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia and Thailand….these places have the warmth and exhibit the true quality of life that I cannot find in Singapore…..I’m currently in Thailand and treasuring every moment here.
@@crisg5807 Thank you sir for writing the truth. Foreigners outside ASEAN region who are not familiar must read this accurate comment about the reality on the ground.
u are right in many ways. but if you think you should be allowed the freedom to move to other foreign countries to retire based on your own financial and personal needs to benefit yourself, foreigners should have the similar freedom to move to singapore for jobs based their own financial needs to benefit themselves.
If you like city life, Bangkok is modern and advanced. You can get pretty much everything here. Whereas, Singapore is great but the price is also great. If you are ultra rich, Singapore is the heaven
@@babibrain Singapore is actually even better when you are the average Joe/Jane on the street. You get clean air and clean water. Public toilets are a lot cleaner. The city is generally cleaner. Bangkok may be cheaper but you are breathing in polluted air, the streets are so dirty and there is a persistent bad smell in the air. Plus at night time, Singapore is safe and brightly lit-up EVERYWHERE. In Bangkok, most places are still dark and dimly lit, and is not safe. Guess who among the rich and the average have to be the ones to walk those dark streets at night?
Singapore is sooo advanced in almost all aspects, both the people and the country itself, though very expensive. Thailand, on the other hand, is still gradually developing and trying to learn things from other already developed countries. Personally, I think it's gonna be quite a few decades before Thailand could be comparable to Singapore. By the way, because these two countries are so close in distance it's best to live and work in Singapore, if you can afford it, and then spend nice long weekends and holidays in Thailand.
Singapore asian parents are different from the western parents, particularly SG parents.When something happens to their children, they start blaming the government ( why like this, why like that, why didn't the gov do something about it ) the blames are on the gov but not on their children carelessness or their responsibility.Singapore children are too protected and pampered.Its their parents responsibilty to mould their children and teach them to be responsible of themselves ( be independent )and show consequences of their action ( with careless decision ) but with a full guidance and advise from parents.That's how children learn
In the end, its up to you which country you're comfortable living in. Both countries have its pros snd cons. So we can't really say this country is beyter thsn other. In the end, it what your heart feels like home.
In ASEAN, honestly the best place to raise kids and work is Singapore. The dynamism there drives fast upward mobility, if you respond positively to it. Kids get the best education and you get top dollar for your work effort. The sociopolitical environment also help promote great efficiency, safety and productivity, driving towards excellence. These are great motivational factors when one is younger. Once you are of retirement age, your personal conditions change. If you need space to explore and travel, Sg is not the place for you as it's limited by it small island.
Welcome back! 🏡
Max, from what you said about payment in Thailand 🇹🇭, I think Singapore 🇸🇬 is more advanced in terms of how everyone uses credit cards 💳, or QR-code paying for food and other purchases . It’s just my opinion from what I see in Singapore from my recent visit to Singapore 🇸🇬.
for sure!
same as malaysia. Everyone use QR code for paying and order food
@@bella8145-d9z Except Singapore accepts American express & Union Pay on top of that JCB too
@@bella8145-d9zThailand have highest rate of QR code payment per capita
Title is a bit confusing (as a native english speaker).
Confusing in which way?
@@MaxChernovNot going back to Thailand or Singapore?
I think it’s intentional so viewers will click on the video to find out more 😁
@@I_am_cooked_For_Life hmmm... you have to watch to find out haha
Confusing is another word for click baity
This is the thing, Singapore is truly for the elite. If you are wealthy, have a good job or run a successful business at a certain volume, Singapore is a pretty strategic location. Singapore too small ? With that kind of money, you can travel anywhere abroad living in singapore with better flight routes albeit higher flight ticket prices.
In SG when someone gets hurt from anything like a mishap, people start complaining and blaming the government/company, "why isnt there any security guard, why isn't there a fence".
Its not a bad thing for me. It regulates the system to make it more safe.
Everyone needs to travel out of his/her home to experience and compare, be it self-planned exploration of countries or in packaged tours. For you, Max, I guess you love the safety and stability in Singapore. That's why you chose here to be your base. Not as if Singapore has nice sceneries or super-relaxing and slow-pace. It's because Singapore suits you and your family.
Work in Singapore, live in Malaysia, holiday in Thailand
That's what I'm doing, it can't be better than that.
I agree. Best deal and win win all around
singapore is a office, date in thailand and vietnam, live in malaysia
Thailand you get to enjoy driving all over the beautiful country. Whereas you're trapped on the tiny Singapore island. And if you don't drive there it's a big step down without the car. A playground for the ultra rich.
Changi
Flight from Singapore to Phuket is about the same as Bangkok to Phuket. Changi is more efficient and overall nicer to spend time at. So living in Singapore is hardly any different from living in Bangkok if you want to visit the islands.
Driving is a chore. Take a grab.
@@noproblematallmate Driving is a chore and an enjoyment at the same time. Car is a status symbol.
@@MaxChernov You can't replace the joy of driving especially when you have kids and the status symbol of owning a car with Changi.
Come on Max. You know very well that Phuket is not representative of Thailand
why not?
Wow!🤩 I really liked this video. I have been living in Phuket for over 12 years. I think this is the best video comparison of Singapore and Phuket. Waiting for you again in Phuket, my dear friend Maxim❤🫂
Good videos
So glad you came home! Welcome back! ☺
If you have kids, I think Singapore is the best place in terms of safety, stability, efficiency and predictability. Comparing it like this is not really fair because you are comparing mundane day to day lifestyle to a holiday mode. Anyway, Singapore is so near to all these places, Phuket, Bali, Goa etc and with today's budget air prices, keeping holidays as holidays will be much more fun.
If u are working all the time your reality is not the city or Singapore. Your environment daily is just the office or in the room staring at the wall. You can do that in iceland or remote galapagos islands. Your prevalent reality experienced is not Singapore but office and wall. Then it doesn't matter where you live.
I’ve been living in Bangkok, Thailand, since 2016. Have been to Phuket many times. Phuket is not as safe as Bangkok. Leaving your car unlocked, with the keys in it, is far from a good idea.
Secondly, Phuket is not as safe as Bangkok.
Traditional Thai families do not even visit Phuket.
Phuket and the south are influenced by the religion predominant in Malaysia, and it has local clans.
It’s not rare to find elderlies in Bangkok who say Phuket is almost a different country within Thailand.
The local clans make Phuket an environment way more challenging than Bangkok or other Thai cities. For example, they dominate the transportation system, preventing Grab (the local Uber) to operate there.
On top of that, we find Westerners and Russians retired or party mads. It’s not a place for young, ambitious, workers or entrepreneurs, in my point of view.
A more sensible comparison is between Singapore and Bangkok. But for this we need another video LOL
Really? With all that vices in Phuket, I thought they would be more conservative if you say they're influenced by Malaysian religions but they are far more 'liberal'?
Grab actually works in Phuket.
I worked in Bangkok for 1 year. Honestly on an average, cost of living in Bangkok is still lower than Singapore. Subways are ok in Bangkok except that it is more crowded than Singapore especially during peak hours. Public buses are a little less convenient and some are pretty old and can be quiet confusing if you are not used to it and the traffic jams can be quite a nightmare.
The good thing about Bangkok it the rich diversity and a more relax environment. I never considered Thailand a land of smile as outside the shopping malls, away from the shops, people can be pretty rude.
One thing for sure is the air quality in Bangkok is terrible with all that traffic.
Thailand overall is a very dangerous country, the highest country with gun related crime is Thailand and most of the suspects are siam Buddhist including those thai lady boy
Unfair comparison. I don’t like Phuket after going there 6 times. Phuket is not Thailand. It’s a tourist trap. Try somewhere else in Thailand for a better comparison. Thailand is actually quite lovely especially compared to SG
you can do it, I'm not stopping you haha
Bangkok is even worse, ChiangMai or Pattaya also ain’t better.
Malaysia is the best spot to retire...Singapore people's hits by stress every day everywhere
Go to PH😊
@@mohdfaizmazlan2885retire konon, sekarang orang asing datang pon tak terurus, dari china, India, Bangladesh, Pakistan tersebar seluruh Malaysia beli tanah sana sini, sehingga orang tempatan tidak selesa dan banyak yang datang dengan surat untuk kerja takdan berapa hari lari dari majikan menjaja jualan di tepi jalan tanpa permit, yang lari hidup dalam kawasan pendalaman pon banyak, ni sekarang kau nak tambah lagi
Good take on raising children. I’m boomer generation and we were NOT coddled. You learned fast you could get hurt bad not paying attention and developing a good sense of your surroundings. We had rock fights, bicycled everywhere, climbed dangerous towers and rock faces, rode horses bareback, etc. Too many American kids today are weak and delusional from overprotection.
Hey Max, when I read the title of your video, my heart sank. I thought we will be losing you. What a relief. But seriously, as long as you are happy and producing great videos, we should be happy for you wherever you may be. Perhaps you may consider longer period of stay in another place whenever your children are having their school holidays. It would be a great holiday for them and a break from the monotony for you too. I can understand that international RUclipsrs are very mobile, but I hope we can have you for a longer period of time. But I think if your kids can complete their education in Singapore, it would be good for them.
Its so kind of you 😌I'm staying!
To each his own. Everyone’s comfort zone may not be the same. We enjoy Bangkok and it’s our 8th month living here 🙏🏼
no if Max said Singapore is better you must listen and obey what he says
@@ephelesfrance7006 spot on!
Just follow your heart and trust your intuition....whichever decision that gives you inner peace is usually the right one
I absolutely love this video. It captures the reasons why i move out of Singapore to Thailand.
I love living in Thailand. Singapore is so controlling its not enjoyable. The government is constantly telling you how to live your life.
like a museum
Aiyah, it's the credit card fees lah. Most vendors don't want to pay that coz it can really add up.
In Thailand, you meet people who are not so friendly. Maybe he is not a real Thai. Maybe he or she is a Chinese who always looks grumpy. And many guest workers come from Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and India. There are several millions in Thailand. There are especially many Burmese people. And another thing: you are in the southern part of Thailand. The people in the southern region have different personalities than the Thais in the central region. And Thais from other regions
Phuket would be very different from Bangkok, which should be closer comparison to Singapore as a city - no?
Well said. For short day in Thailand is awsome. Better than in Bali..
No, Bali any day for me....😄
this format is actually a really enjoyable watch =)
thanks! more to come:)
Quite surprised that you found Phuket safe. Maybe snatch thiefs/petty-theft incidents are not as common, but I know of two couples who were robbed at their hotel/resort, which is rather alarming.
Welcome to Thailand :)
Max, you seem lost in the world always drifting here and there not knowing where to settle? Or if I guess correctly, you're actually harboring a desire to get SG citizenship?
Because there are so many amazing places in the world, haha!
1- Singapore is a Racist country : CMIO give 85% of all visas to "Chinese race", mention Chinese owner on rental listing, "need to speak Chinese on job that doesn't require it
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2- Real estate is a very overpriced money laundering scheme where money launderer from China park their dirty money and let the unit empty. Using the money to pay cheap construction worker paid 700 Sgd to build more hdb and condo to attract even more miney laundering.
Real estate cost 2M for a piece of concrete which cost 100k elsewhere, surrounded by noisy neighbours who put washing machine at 3am and get some KTV sex workers at 4 am where 0 noise pollution law will protect you. The condo have a 50 years lease meaning you pay millions for something you don't own (absolute meme). Same for the cars, 100k for a basic car which you need to throw in 10 years hahahaha.
3- Nature : Manmade macritchie a small east coast walk. End of story can see it all in 1 day with pulau ubin.
4- Peoples are manerless and greedy listning to full blast phone in restaurants and dodging queues.
Horrible... F- tier
@@MaxChernov Singapore is the most amazing..Just stay in Singapore..
drifting about here and there is his work. why do you think we watch his youtube channel here. most of us have to stay, work and live in one spot. max is doing the moving about and telling us about the experience of living in other places. SG is great in many many aspects but it's pretty darn boring and expensive. Just how many times do you want to visit Gardens or gamble in Marina. The really really 'fun' places are only accessible to the ultra rich.
Well brother, you definitely won't find as many high quality interviewees as Singapore.
singapore should compare to bangkok. Private housing for rental is more available in Bangkok than Singapore.
This is how Asian works, OK. Work 365 days, if can 24 hours per day.
@@RichardLu-jw6pr Yeah money launderer earning 20 k from rent sleeping until 4pm. Nice joke
Money launderer earning 20K sgd from rents and waking up at 4 pm. Wow very hard...
hey, fantastic. definitely absolutely Thailand. You won't regret it. what's the name of your Rawai villa? thinking of visiting there and stay for a short while so probably can consider the one you featured.
www.airbnb.com/slink/ilb4VmVt
No loss to Singapore.
😢
Me again,so I have been to 154 countries and territories and Bangkok is the best city in the world for what quality and for the cost,I could never afford to live in Singapore or Hong Kong and I have been married to a Thai for 38 year,
As an expat living in Malaysia, I would view Thailand as the place to relax for a weekend holiday especially for certain demographics who would need a relief from some restrictions here in Malaysia.
Besides, Thailand is like our backdoor neighbour if we need to throw parties or ''get loose'' once in a while.
Thailand is for poor tourists to party,
Rich people will go to Ibiza or Vegas
This is a dire video. Such a strange comparison. Tourist trap island vs world class city
refreshing episode. i enjoyed this one. more please!
I think speaking fluent Thai is important for long term living in Thailand.
Phuket is a fabulous place to relax and chill. Been going there frequently for past 25 years.
Max, good morning 🌅 to you from Hong Kong 🇭🇰
I suppose you should stay in Singapore 🇸🇬 instead due to the safety and the best in education right ahead of Hong Kong 🇭🇰 SAR.
Work and live in Singapore But come to relax and travel in Thailand.
Thailand, Malaysia or Singapore, any of this countries is a good choice for visiting or retiring.
As a Singaporean, I say NO to your comment that Singapore is a good choice for retiring?!! Really?!! For work yes, as many foreigners esp from neighbouring countries come to SG to wotk and earn SG $$, but retire back home with a higher std of living using the S$ they have earned. Singaporeans can do the same too when they have retired, but not being locals in those countries there might present some challenges.
If you can't find peace and happiness in your home, you won't find it anywhere else.
I think you can. I'm definitely happier after I left my home town many years ago.
Thailand suits you better
why
Max, what car rental company did you use? Curious because I rented twice in TH so far, thankfully no scratches both times, but I wanna know which company is more "picky" about such things ;)
Thailand is a lot cheaper, if costs is the major concern.
Truly depends on what you want from life.
100%
I found Singaporeans more friendly and smiley.
Singapore is so expensive!
I’d have to agree with the Nomad Capitalist, Kuala Lumpur is a far better place to live and more value for money, greener better environment than either Thailand or even Singapore. His latest RUclips upload re-confirmed that.
if you like Singapore but want something a little more laid back ... the only place i think is worth moving to is Penang.
Im singaporean and would like to comment on the current Phuket situation, have been there as tourists for 3 times. Recently, we have been thinking we will not go back to Phuket again for holiday. One, a total rip off during each and every 'songtaew' and Grab or tuk tuk ride. Two, No more good services, or smiley faces but more curt and rude faces at the hotel. Three, we have seen many times, the local police stopping all the foreigner motor bikes with road signs demanding for a proper International driving permit, otherwise you will be fined. Four, there are simply too many Russian long stayers at phuket which drives up the local food, tuk tuk rides, property prices. I have nothing against any Russian tourists , but there are really too many in Phuket that i though that i am in Russia and not in Phuket, thailand.
I agree, even for me it’s too many Russians 😂
U should leave Sg.. The fact u made a video to compare means u not happy being in SG. U stay in condo in sg, ur kids are in good school and is always safe and i beleive u and ur wife have good job in sg. U even have a helper. Not many singaporeans have what u have. Singapore is an expensive, small and strict place. Go to other country where have more freedom , cheaper and bigger . 👍
No, I’m actually pretty happy in Singapore
I would move to bangkok. Reasonable prices & cost of living. And a good city to live in.
150 euro for massage in Europe? Nah bro, in Vasa, Finland I pay 60 euro.
nice! When I lived in Ireland it was at least 100+ euro for 1 hour
Bro phuket aint evn the big city its just a touristy place. Quality of life is much higher even u live in Hatyai 1 hour fly from Phuket.
your insecurity is quite high.. you need to be calm, we are human and we need to live a little bit.
You sound like my therapist 🤔
@@MaxChernov with zero cost. how cool is that.
Most of what you share I agree, like about 'smile' yes, that was what I felt the same way they were having for Thais, people. I am glad you share about this because if I would/will tell, explain and share in the social media I could not how to describe it. I had been to Phuket once and yes; we have the same though and feeling that Phuket was not very walkable compared to Singapore and in Bangkok. Since I am a city type of person, I prefer more in Bangkok than in other parts of Thailand because it have similar public transport by MRT/BTS trains. I cannot swim well so seaside place I have less interested, but it has better fresh air surrounding in Phuket, Hua Hin and Chiang Mai. I am not sure if you have notice about safety crossing roads a little/quite different situation when you use zebra crossing anywhere both in Thailand and in Singapore. Most of the vehicles drivers in Singapore would/will give way at zebra crossing including traffic junction but not always happened in in Thailand main roads and junctions, the drivers only give way and slow down sometime when they were/are about 100 meters away from zebra crossing might/usually give way.
phuket just tiny district in Thailand you cannot judge whole country by a little tourist places, you should compare Singapore vs Phuket not vsThailand beacause its tiny area alike
but Phuket is similar size
Nice vid! And friendly advice from me, you should always lock your car. 🙂
I trust the universe!
Locking up is something you'll need to do. Avoid regret that you didn't safeguard your property and family. Be safe, and watch over your kids, there's real danger of losing them to human traffickers. Be safe.
human traffickers where?
Have you ever thought of interviewing some interesting personalities from China, or those that have migrated to Singapore (provided they speak Eng)? I've yet to see one, though I'm not sure how truthful they can be when ask to make comparisons between their adopted country and China.
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Super nice video, and honest to. What safety for the kids look out sometimes the fun (5 min. in the back or the car) can have enorm impact of the rest of her life. Same as the fun park, no helmet. (if she hit here face the party is total over). But they are your schildren. Same as the pool super nice but with the little one look out. You will not be the first one wou did not look for one sec. and it is over. Just a warning. But the video👍
Agree, but you cannot be 100% safe of everything. It’s life.
One month isn't long enough to make assessments
Phuket = Russia
With all respect to Russia people
low crime does not mean no crime.
😮😮Much more fun in Thailand.
As a tourist shopping experience? Every mall is basically identical, Uniqlo, Cotton On, Cold Storage, Denki, Challenger, no diversity... Feels like a dejavu, a glitch in the matrix 😂😂😂
You also interviewed Jim Rogers, who is also a billionaire? He lives in Singapore. Or was that Cyrus Janssen or someone else?
Jim Rogers is $300m estimated net worth
@@MaxChernov, thanks for that, but he definitely has interesting things to say about the economy.
For sure! He’s amazing
So interesting to see european, come to southeast asia and it is too many...
Never ever put your daughter in the trunk …unless she has an escape route or well ventilated for hours ..incase of forgetfulness and emergency
not even for a 5 min fun? 😌
Kindly change the title... It's misleading... It should have been "What works better? Living in Singapore or Thailand? Let's explore.."
Can I please keep my current title? Please 🙏
Kenot
Better if you change it or else your viewers will stop trusting you (like it was a click bait)
@@MaxChernov not going back is in bad taste.
@@MaxChernov I think you should keep the title and keep the suspense. I was wondering too which place you were not going back to.
Of all places, you choose tourist spot.
You can easily avoid tourist spots in Phuket
@MaxChernov places around tourist spot is almost similar
Bangladesh is suitable for you. Singapore the cost of living is high.
Going for holiday and living are two totally different things. Put aside cost of living there is many others factor to be considered for living specifically with family.
You appear to use European architecture as a reference point, as do most people who are familiar with it; I believe this may be a bit biassed, but to each their own.
I believe that monoculture, in which there must be a specific look, benchmark, and so on, has a limited vision.
Cash is king. Once it's gone, you will miss the privacy that came with it.
Absolutely a wonderful place to explore. That is awesome and interesting living in Thailand after Singapore. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the day, my friend. 👍👍
My choice is Thailand of course. Singapore cannot offer a high quality of living. Thats why i moved from Singapore to Thailand.
Thailand offers 10x higher quality of life
"not going back."
oh hey, you're back. 🙄
You still were in a tourist hot spot…
nope. far from it