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I know at first glance it may SEEM like Aqua and Ruby accomplished their goals, but they Accomplished them in the most BULLSH!T WAY POSSIBLE!!! AAAAAAAND let’s be real, the Dialogue in this final arc was absolutely ATROCIOUS!!! And about that crow girl, can we ALL agree that her personality COMPLETELY takes a massive shift after the first half of the movie arc, because before she was pretty much a Bully to Aqua and Ruby, and she teased them every chance she got. But after we get the flashback of her interacting with Serena in the past she straight up becomes a Nice Girl out of nowhere. She then has the audacity to Glaze the Hell out of Aqua (INEXPLICABLY) and literally watch’s as his body fade into absolutely nothing!!! What was the point of all this? What was the point of spending 4 god damn years and making an anime about a 16 year old ldol mother who dies in front of her children and having one of her children die in the most LAUGHABLE way imaginable, and the other one be forever DOOMED to be just another carbon Copy of her mother, the one thing she said she’d never become!!! Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a literal stalker at that door Pointing a GUN at Ruby’s face while she has her head turned around. Another thing, even IF I go back to the 1st and 6th episode of the anime, i wouldn’t feel the least bit sad cause I don’t CARE anymore. And if we’re being honest, Akane should’ve died right then and there at the end of Ep 6, at least THEN Aka would’ve had something to SAY!!! Aka: Eh, just want to let ya’ll know that this stuff can actually happen in real life, so you Should probably, you know, not do it anymore. Thanks😊 And I never actually watched or read the Tokyo Blade Arc in the anime or manga, but now I care about it even less now because WHATS THE DAMN POINT ANYMORE!!! And you can straight up count me out on continuing the anime. Cause who the hells gonna even care about Oshi No Ko by the time the anime gets a S3 and/or a S4 if THAT even happens!!! And even IF the anime changes the ending, it’s Already Too Late cause the damage has already been freaking done!!! All those animators and voice actors are just wasting their Blood Sweat and Tears for NOTHING now, and I just feel SAD for them right now!!! And now that his latest series got the Ax, Aka is now working on a Manga about and I Quote “a fairy-tale world, where princesses and princes are always guided by fate..." and apparently the artwork is being done by the guy who did Record of Ragnarok. But after this Atrocity of a Manga about Idols, I wouldn’t be surprised if that series gets Axed too, along with all of his Other future projects. Cause let’s be real, who the hell is gonna SUPPORT him after this!!!
Ruby didn't wanna become like Ai, she became an even sadder version of her. Kana's love for Aqua was not only unfullfilled, it never got a chance to happen. Throughout the manga, Akane constantly tried to save the boy who came to her rescue , only for him to stab himself and drown. And Aqua, who never got over the death of his own mother, Ai, and Sarina; he never learned to love himself, in a story that is all about the notion of love.... this ending was a sick joke.
@@Fuko0139 he could have ended up in coma and evntly hearing her perfom at dome while in hospital wakes up and story ends, no ships but ends like how it started in a hosptial room with idols music helping them
Also the way it speedsrun everyone's reaction feels just like bad lazy writting. Aqua dies, has his funeral and the very next thing is the final chapter of how evryone just kind got over it and now everyone cheer for Ruby's career...it just dosen't feel rigth.
@@silverbreaker9271To add it kinda makes the whole arc before this pointless. What was the movie for if the father was just going turn out evil in the first place? Why didn’t aqua just kill him then? It just felt rushed tbh I think this just needed more time
I didn't mind Aqua dying if the author had found a way to write it where it was inevitable and there was no other choice. The dude sacrificed himself so his sister could have a couple years of doing her dream job. Then, the idol industry would kick her out for growing too old and she & her group would be easily replaced. Also, they made Aqua's death feel very insignificant to many of the characters because after the funeral chapter, the next chapter showed everyone just moved on a couple days later. Also, Ruby's arc was quite a slap in the face, rather than taking the time to grieve and move on she decided to put on a metaphorical mask, hiding her true feelings from the world and living a life of lies. She literally became AI 2.0, rather than learning from AI's tragic past and becoming a better person.
I also think maybe some kind of afterlife scene with aqua couldve given some satisfaction with his ending. It felt so.. meaningless after he died, I think if there was a way to show him reunited with ai it couldve been better. Best we got were two stars in the sky
@@smuglumine9379crow girl said Ai's soul is gone so it could be the same with Aqua's. Showing them together for the last time would've ruin crow girl's words. But yes, it will satisfy the fans
A sad ending is okay, but if the super smart main character suddenly goes for the most ridiculous and stupid “solution”, it loses all credibility. Even more so if all the time it’s been established that he’s gotten slowly over his trauma, so he’s not even plausibly crazy at that point. Writing a smart character requires the author to do smart decisions…
I'm sorry but the only sign of superior intelligence from him would be his profession in his previous life. Hikaru loved confessing his missdeeds to the guy and he didn't record it even once. Being in prison is good enough if he's there long enough.
@@LordDIO-z4w I disagree: we’ve seen him several times doing smart plots (tracking and preventing his gf from becoming a murderer, planing the whole movie revenge thing). Just at the end of the show he’s suddenly depicted as stupid. - Exactly as you described it.
Actually no he is dumb. The author later somehow ditch the idea of being a second life. Aqua is a new character a new born who somehow has the memories of Gorou (which doesnt make sense considering the plot and mainly Ruby has always been identifying herself as Sarina). Anyway Aqua isnt smart, its Gorou who is smart.
lots of better ways could have ended like he is saved from drowning but ends up in a coma ruby does the same as she does in the manga and used pain to keep moving and ends up at tokyo dome but while performing her concert is on tv in aqua hospital room and that makes him wake up smiling that she got her dream. it also means like how ais songs helped her now she has helped aqua and series ends in same place it all started
thats nice but now we got an ending where ruby lied about everything, prob date a red flag type of guy like ai and hikaru, and then got k*lled by a jealous fan instead
@@quanlinglingdingle6122 or Ruby getting killed by a crazy fan like Ai. Now that Aqua is gone, Ruby has no one to protect her from crazy fans unless she dates someone who moves in with her. She can't rely on Miyako, Ichigo or Akane at all times. They have their own lives to continue
This is the ending that is needed, with this many people's minds and emotions can be put at ease ending an amazing emotional roller coaster of a anime with a peaceful ending
The entire story: Everyone cared about Aqua and wanted him to live, Ai, the Saito’s, the Director, Arima, Akane, Mem, Taiki, the crow girl, Ruby, and even Aqua himself said he wanted to live and see Ruby perform at the dome. Aqua Chapter 161: SUICIDE IS BADA-
The problem with alot of newgen anime and mangaka is that they keep using death and pain as an easy way to build and end drama, especially towards the end of the series. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. What they don't understand is that shoehorning these elements into a story that doesn't particularly need it would only leave the audience confused and unsatisfied. It's not about the thought of it, it's about it's execution. Does it make sense? Does it align with the story?
I wont say this is new, or a problem exclusive to newgen, a lot of old tales were like that. It's actually a problem that keeps coming back again and again, every time the writers of an era start running out of ideas. But yeah, the rest of it is spot on
True. To be honest, I think we treated AOT and Demon Slayer more harshly(back in 2020 when DS’s ending dropped, a lot of people were furious that it was a timeskip of the future and not ending with the main characters)
@@M3m3l0rd12 Nah dude, there's no excuse for these huge downgrades of endings. AOT, demon slayer, MHA, JJK, tf is goin on? Are they doing it so the series ends on a favorable note to push marketing for merch? Seems like the meta strat nowadays lol
@@daizenmarcurio to play devil's advocate, jjk didn't make the journey in vain--yuji got new appreciation of life and continue life with his friends. It's not a great ending, there are a lot of plot threads abandoned, but as far as main character's fate and 'moral message' of the story, it really isn't bad.
In my opinion, Hikaru was a poorly written and disappointing villain. The author tried to present him as sympathetic by making him a rape victim, but in the last chapter, he is described as a monster who killed many people. I’m sorry, but this comes off as artificial and doesn’t really connect with the overall theme of the entertainment industry. Hikaru owns a production company, which could have been used to show how he leveraged his influence to abuse others, perpetuating the cycle of exploitation he experienced. This would have tied in perfectly with the theme. In addition, the last chapters felt so hollow-it seemed as if all the characters had become empty shells.
I was legitimately wondering if I'd accidentally missed a few chapters because it was just so very abrupt going from "Hikaru is a victim but may not keep on continuing the cycle now" to "Hikaru absolutely has to die (and it cannot for some reason be passed off as him deciding to join Ai after finding out that his long-lost love actually did love him back)." In fact, it'd probably have been a lot less jarring to me if Hikaru had self-disposed & the full reasons were getting covered up for basically the same reasons Aqua had made his choices in canon. (A father who did that sort of thing would be just as bad if not worse than a twin brother.)
Actually this is genius, we need to stop viewing villains like oh no he was traumatised Take the most vicious serial killer of all time they were traumatised too most of them weren’t privileged rich y rich rich. Hikaru is well written because his character shows that even though evil people have reasons they still need to be held accountable and are evil till they take responsibility (which neither Hikaru, Airi nor Ryosuke nor anyone did)
@@barnabassebesteny1490 Yes but it was badly executed, the serial killer part wasn't really exploited, we only see the extent of his crime in one panel at the end of the story.
His story was over, he realized he was wrong, he was gonna turn himself in. Suddenly right at the end he plots to kill Ruby so Aqua has to sacrifice himself to kill him, absolutely stupid.
Oshi no Ko was by far the author's worst ending. Other manga, like Kaguya sama, were not as bad as people say. His other endings had some unsatisfactory elements, but the OnK ending was a total slap in the face to fans. No one learned anything, no character development was seen through, and everyone was left feeling empty and sleighted. I truly think Aka did it to punish fans.
@cinderfox5217 2 main theories: 1. For criticizing his Aqua/Ruby ship. 2. For the failure and cancellation of his other manga. 3rd reason, just unknown.
Kaguya ending was atleast cathartic and satisfying even if it was bad. It was also the kind of genre that normally goes on for 10 seasons without anyone getting into a relationship before finally having a kiss and dating being the climax. Atleast we got more out of Kaguya than that. So while disappointed in that ending it didn’t hurt, it was still a pleasant final turning of the page. But this?!? This is a complete and utter travesty. This will turn me off of every project he does in the future. Short of a Lino and Yu spin off, because I wouldn’t be able to stop myself.
"It's fine that Ruby is alone without Aqua, because the Idol industry is totally fine now that Hikaru is gone! The series sure built Ruby as someone independent, well adjusted and industry savy without Aqua! Im sure Ruby is living her best life being top idol" - The ending, maybe
@@Kagerou180 This concept of having a character survive but making it more miserable than if they'd just died is pretty genius (it worked perfectly for Kamisama no Iu Toori 2) and in Oshi no Ko it might've been thought-provoking if Aka actually had something to offer as a writer...
Yapping session: The issue with this ending is that it was rushed and illogical. Aqua didn't have to die. He could be grown as a person. He could've provoked Hikaru and have Akane call authorities so the guy gets arrested or whatever, they could've thrown him in jail or a psych ward. Ruby just continuing living in lies in a miserable lonely life with all her biological family gone sucks and shouldn't happen. If Aka wanted Aqua to die, he could've made Hikaru snap and stab him, and Aqua, struggling to get away from Hikaru while having an open wound, could fall in the water with him, on accident. But nah let's make him kill himself despite having a whole episode about why you should never do that to yourself amd your loved ones and make it look like it "needed to happen to save Ruby" Also I'm so sad we didn't at least get to see Aqua reuniting with Ai in the afterlife. Imagine him calling Ai "mom" for the first time 🙁 Also why did Crow Girl just stand there and do nothing??? If Aka wanted Ruby to live similarly to Ai, he could've kept Aqua with her. Seriously it's so obviously rushed. I mean ik that writing can be hard, but I feel like the ending could've been handled better. Either have Aqua survive and go to therapy, either give us an actual unbeatable reason why he had to die and show grief in a better way. No hate to aka ofc, but I followed Aqua's story to see him grow as a person, which is what the series basically told me was gonna happen only for him to pull the "ha! Tragic death!" Card which is overused and annoying.
Not to mention the fact that he started building up Kana's crush for Aqua right at the end just to kill him, so it would be more sad lol (it clearly worked but it was super unsatisfying).
We all saw this ending (Aqua's death) from miles away as Mephisto song was practically screaming it to our faces. Its just the way he died is what felt like a betrayal. Writing is an art and all the master pieces of art required love and dedication. When you start a new piece of art to work with, the previous one gets distracting and your heart is no longer with it, which is by the way very natural. So authors should never work on two things at once in my honest opinion. This is what ruined Oshi No Ko.
When people start to work on multiple stories they already lost interest in the first, indeed. Easier to see in webnovels as they are faster and cheaper to produce.
Tbh Mephisto set the bar too damn high. It took OnK more seriously and told the story more poignantly and subtly than Akasaka ever could. It gave me feelings I never actually had for the series itself, still does. I'll forget about OnK itself but Mephisto will remain one of my favorite songs of all time.
And that’s why, ladies and gentlemen, fanfiction exists in these "dark" days/ times to let humanity’s "light" shine brightly in this world & universe through the "darkness" that is surrounding us all.
I'm so sorry for Ruby's ending. She'll never be happy for the rest of her life and will continue to live in a deceit of happiness. Aka really hated Ruby/Sarina.
@@bubblesawesome3284The crazy part about it is the fact that she will end up exactly like her mother (not sure about dying the same way but who knows). I thought the author would build more on the fact of her not trying to be basically Ai 2.0 but she already proves it by admitting she’s putting on a fake smile and lying in the last panel
@ I know and I find that weird. Like Ruby never wanted to lie like her mom lied. But now she is lying just like her mother. Walmart ai didn’t even get screen time or anything like she wasn’t developed like the others.
When this ending finally gets adopted in the anime anime only will have a full on mental breakdown. Manga readers are already having a mental breakdown I can’t even imagine how anime only will react Man, the final episode does get released the whole Internet and the world will be in chaos. It’s gonna be a bloodbath and I can’t wait to see it. I can’t wait to see people lose their minds after seeing this ending in the anime 😂🤣
OR imagine they actually end up liking it and be confused on why manga readers hate it just like AoT, especially if the anime makes some changes and additions here and there that anime watchers won't be aware of.
Ah... so this is why that guy burned his Oshi no Ko manga. He knew this would happen to anyone who tried to tackle the series and wanted to spare them so badly. Like getting rid of a cursed tape before it can spread its curse.
@@Kkubey or have an original ending for the anime and if fan demand is there, a movie to showcase the manga ending. That's the best way to play it safe for everyone.
Moral of the story dont oof yourself when trying to kill someone cause your life more valuable than that bullcrap. anyways even a natural fan like me not even that HUGE HUGE OF a fan just a little bit pisses me off a little
I don’t understand why they did a future seen in one of the manga pages like they had a whole scene from the future but none of it makes any sense now. It’s so different from the ending also aqua dying doesn’t make sense to me either. Like he said he was doing it for Ruby but like who’s going to protect Ruby now like she just became her mother she is Walmart Ai. She will probably end up just like her
She is already dead inside thanks to Aqua's wish to end himself, he was a twin brother, basically her half part and the closest person in her life. I hate Akasaka so much
This ending was so anticlimactic. It all felt rushed for a while now, like, I wish Nino's character was explored more, she had so much potential! Aqua's ending was disappointing because dude got no character development at all and dragged everybody down with him too... Ruby deserved a better treatment, I wish Sarina's family was also explored more. That would be interesting to see. I'd love to see Aqua forgiving himself, Kana showing him how to live life happily, I'd love to see him attending Ruby's performance in the dome... There was so much potential and yet all we've got was this garbage 😢
@@masterpink6963 if wanted him with ruby then what if did similar to clannad so that dream had was his alternate future he now gets to have where she lives and becomes idol and ends up with her but has memories erased as aqua so gets a fresh start
Oda is hopefully spending a bit of his break trying to plan out the ending, cause trust me, people will NOT be happy if he fumbles the ending to One Piece.
I think that some people respect him so much that they wouldn’t even mind if the ending was the friendship along the way. He is really popular and many people are okay if he has a fumble.
Maybe the anime will change it's ending. Who knows? Some anime don't make their ending accurate to the manga, like death note. Aot's manga ending has a lot of hate but when the anime adapts it. People begin to calm down and accept the ending. If you'd like, you can watch it in the future if someone says Onk has a different but good ending
@@skii_aini671 the anime changing solution is a good fix, but its more uncommon that it seems, because unfortunately it can only happen when the AUTHOR themselves give creative liberty to the studio, be it because they also dislike the ending they made or if the anime gets ahead of the manga and the mangaka thinks they won't be able to catch up. Else it just doesn't happen, because the Japanese, even if they also dislike the ending (they hated it more than us btw, surprisingly) think it's disrespectful to do it. Not a mind reader, but I'm pretty sure Aka does not regret this ending one bit, so this sh*t's staying. I know its a tragedy, but even since greek times, sad stories had morals other than 'wouldn't it be messed up if that happened?' or 'that happened, it sucked lol'. The ShowBiz is a Bad Place is the moral of the story, we knew it from chapter 4, so what other lessons is there to learn by sticking to the end? "People will get over your death pretty quick" and "S**cide will fix all your problems actually"? Aka you aight buddy?
honestly, i didn't really like how things in story were warped up, ruby heavily shadowed any other character than her in the ending. like i get it, she is a main character, but it felt like they just kinda disappeared last chapter and like they didnt matter as much as before, all of them had big dreams and we only got to see ruby achieving her dream. was hoping to get something mentioned about the other characters future, even a small talk about it or a meeting in a bar/someone's place of them after they didn't meet in a while.
the problem isn't that Aqua dies, the problem is that how we get there is explained like shit. Aqua from the play arc from S2 is more revenge minded and uncaring about the present than the Aqua from the final arcs. In the anime the reason Akane struggles to break up with him is because he doesn't wanna revenge anymore and at that moment Aqua doesn't know the twisted shit his father went thru yet to sympathise with him. Taiki told him about his parents and Aqua already tapped out and the separation between Goro and Aqua gets worse after S2. Even with the identity reveals he isn't as locked in as he used to be, during his last moments he wants to live. On top of that bro is gone while the graduation tour is going on so we don't see him spotting the flowers, but Akane sees them. By the way the last arc was told it makes more sense to think Akane would sacrifice.
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I just hope the anime of Oshi No Ko will be different from the manga with a different ending and more changes there. This time, all hands will be on Mengo as she has quite undivided attention alongside the director, Daisuke. Though not now, but next year with season 3 and the years followed for it takes time to wait.
Oshi no Ko's ending reminded me of Bleach's ending where everything is rushed and a resolution was reached without taking the proper steps. But at least, that manga retained a semblance of intelligence and had love from the author. Unlike Bleach, Oshi no Ko wasn't axed by the publisher. No, this manga's writer just lost interest in his story and wrapped up the ending in just 5 chapters. This manga was a cash cow, it was beloved by everyone, and fans were looking forward to the backstories of Hikaru and the other idols in B-Komachi. All of that was skipped. Hell, even the character arcs of the main cast was cut short because Akasaka was privileged enough to lose interest in writing a story that was his main source of income. What wouldn't I give to be in a position where I get to write stories and an artist actually agrees to draw them out in a weekly magazine. That's why Oshi no ko's ending make me more angry than I should be.
The anime needs either to stop with season two, or pretend this BS end never happened and go anime-original for story development and the ending. Screw the manga. Also, who in their right mind would ever pick up any of Aka's new works again?
Why not? Tell the truth, you get your joy riding this roller coaster? If yes, why wouldnt repeat it? I hear some wining about kaguya-sama is not about love is war after christmas arc, but people read it anyway.
@@PassingAmoeba feces is blowing out of proportion, but if you enjoying roller coaster ride. What would be in the end, would be in the end, until ride. I get my joy reading, even if it doesnt fit my understanding of ending. And one day i would like to read it again. Dont be snowflake, this story is fiction, no real human was mentioned. No companies was involved. You know that disclamer sh4t.
All the author needed to do was have Kana learn everything about Aqua and his revenge / trying to protect Ruby plot, confess her love to Aqua and stop him, let the evil dad get arrested and spend the rest of his life in jail and finally everyone lives happily ever after that was all he had to do could have been told in just as many chapters!!!
I think this is a good Kana ending for the reader, her and Akane were basically the only ones handled okay. If you keep denying and throwing fits, you'll never end up with the person you like. Hm, actually, the director's reaction was good, too.
Personally, I liked the ending and seeing people grieve over aquas but move forward and try the best they can to be so their life has meaning was a great way to end it off imo. Though people say Ruby has become like Ai by putting on a metaphorical mask, I think it was needed because if she didn’t she wouldn’t have been able to move on.
i didn't hate it...but it was disappointing. First of all, that ending was rushed like it was a fast and furious movie. aqua's death don't get even time nor chapters to actually make the other characters have a real development. there was also a lot of stuff by hikaru's side that could potentially frame him and aqua not having to die. in general it feels like the author pressed the "oh shit" button for some reason. maybe the fandom or whatever and just ended everything asap.
I'm still trying to figure out what was so bad about MHA's ending? If it's the last two pages, those felt more like an Omake, but Deku becoming a Hero teacher seemed like a pretty fair ending to me. Can someone explain the discourse?
Agreed, yes it sucks that Deku lost OFA but at least he got an Iron Man suit and could continue being a hero at the end after 8 years of being a teacher at UA alongside being the greatest hero after defeating Shigaraki with everyone in the world seeing him defeat him when all hope was lost
As a huge mha fan, I loved the ending, it wasn’t the best but it was decent I think what most people are disappointed about it is that the ships never got confirmed, Deku kept saying: “and this is how I became the best hero!” And yknow all of this just for it to be whipped away from us last second
Yeah well, that's what happens when you side track too much instead of progressing the plot, you end up with a rushed half-baked ending. I remember getting flamed for saying author should focus more on main characters and overall main plot line. People loved all this side character development, well there is always a tradeoff in this case it was this mid to bad ending.
I don’t think they ever specified that they recovered a couple days later. They said Ruby didn’t leave her room for *days*, we don’t know how many days they mean. Ruby eventually had to move forward anyways, maybe her mother’s genes was why she became a lier like Ai. Plus Aqua’s death is also controversial as Ai’s was in the manga. Maybe that’s one thing Aka wanted to show.
Thank GOD I stopped at the first volume as soon as I realized that the series wasn't going to be what I thought it was LMAO. Saved myself THAT heartache, would've lost my absolute mind
Japan getting rid of the ability for them to mask their identities and using pen names so they're gonna have to tread carefully especially those rom com mangaka those guys are cooked
@Bob-rb9zw These mangakas are getting out of hand as of late, they have this odd belief that killing off popular characters is the new trend, terrible taste I say.
Try Mega Heart, a oneshot by Mengo. It's basically the Oshi no Ko alabama route we never got, and even if you end up hating it, at least it's only like 50 pages long, not multiple volumes lol
The fact that I’ve actually seen AI make a better ending than this Disaster Fire of a manga says VOLUMES!!! I’m kinda 50 50 right now, on one hand I GENUINELY Want the anime to be CANCELLED at this point, but the other half wants what you just said🤔🤷
The most discouraging that ruby va can get part of hate, that ruby as the character received. I bet she is cursing that day, when she gets this present and landmine called ruby from oshi no ko creators. Dont forget that its her first main cast role. Thats funny. Fate sometimes can be unpredictable.
honestly i hope that they both give an anime original ending and that his new manga is the oshi no ko characters but reincarnated (that way not only the future of the anime is saved but also the manga gets saved) but yeah one can only hope
I stopped watching anime/manga that are too hyped since AoT. I like more niche products nowadays and I play gacha games more often too. They fulfill what I want more than anime.
@@umerriaz7676 there is a whole video about her previous works and those endings all just teach you that life is cruel and people sometimes cope with it poorly. Most of the characters set a bad example.
I'm not against Aqua dying. I'm fine with that really, just as long as it was executed properly. Aqua died a stupid death. There are many ways he could prevent it while also protecting Ruby's future. I mean, he had 14 years of his life to plan the perfect murder and he wasted it all.
My version if i was the creator: aqua falls into the water with his father and he is about to run out of breath but then he saw ai right in front of him reaching her hand to save him and then aqua drowns but then for some reason he survived but he is in a coma. Ruby goes and peforms but then when she was about to leave after done performing, she saw ai right in front of her and it turns out ai was alive this whole time and then ai told ruby everything so basically ai did get stabbed, and then ai acted dead but then ai secretly called the ambulance and then got saved and then ruby runned to ai and hugged her and aqua finally wakes up and hears about it and then he was super happy and sad and then thats how the book ends. Tbh the original ending is straight up ASS. 💀👌
I mean... Aka Akasaka knows how to make good ending, he did Love is War and the ending (and the hole manga) was peak. Also is not always that we can and are able to make a good ending for our storysp
I'm dead. The video seemed PG at most and the voiceover was so serious and elegant I would've never expected this kind of review 6:38 to pop up full-screen. Made me laugh like a witch but it's such an accurate portrait of the audience's appalled reaction to the ending.
the writer should have done these ending -Villian gets what he deserved either getting jailed and exposed for his evil doing and what kind of effects idol industry has - villan dies and exposed for his evil doing and what kind of effects idol industry has For aqua living - Aqua x akane = having their relationship Aqua gets semi closure that akane can turn to AI which he cant let go so they live a "lie" and loved each other - Aqua x Kanna = him going to the concert and taking 3 white light sticks, grow to love each other secret knowing the scandal but aqua can let go of revenge - Aqua x ruby = The incest troupe where the ending would give shit ton of "controversy" Aqua dying Kanna back to the studio she finds a VIP tokyo dome ticket and having 3 white light sticks. Showing him loving kanna and she becoming his oshi no idol. kanna getting her closure that aqua loved her.
Aka never manages to land the ending. To be honest, I think it’s a struggle for a lot of writers. It’s actually very rare that I’ve found an ending that I enjoyed. My favourite book series, The Wheel of Time, even has a trash ending. At least with Love is War, it wasn’t completely terrible; just a little lacklustre. Oshi no Ko on the other hand, just didn’t feel good at all.
Okay this sucks, like I think the ending itself isn’t bad but that it’s a horrible fit for the story it’s just the wrong ending for this series it would work for a lot of other series but not this one
I think my problem with the ending is like Ruby has suffered so much with her past life and then suffers again with her new life having both mother and brother die like she isn’t catching a break. Maybe not every story has a happy ending, but she definitely deserves one.
the problem isn't the character, the author has written enough manga to know better. Sure some things didn't need to happen, such as the romance element, but if the Alabama route makes more sense than the ending we got, that has to at least say something about how the author handled the ending of the story.
I like the fact that Ruby decides to move on and not just depressed or something. But seriously Aqua's death and the way Hikaru was defeated is literally bad writing. He's building to be a pretty dangerous enemy and difficult to deal with but then in the end he just simply gets push down a cliff and drowned? That's like Akasaka has reached his limit and can't write any peak or mid ending. All I can say for new fans or people who's about to start: Only read the Oshi No Ko manga up to the end of the 2.5D Stage Play Arc or don't read Chapter 160-166 at-all. Watch only the two seasons of Oshi No Ko's anime adaptation. Maybe if the live-action has a second season don't watch it. I'm concerned about the "The Final Arc" live-action move rn. The rest of the stories is up to your imagination. I agree the ending was terrible, Ai's will for her 2 child to live become meaningless, hope she beats Aqua up there.
And meanwhile One Piece is still going on with no end in sight for the foreseeable future at this point. Imagine if One Piece ends like this-Luffy commits a murder suicide upon finding the legendary treasure!
I feel like it would have made more sense if they made his death was inevitable but he quite literally could have saved himself by stabing a non vital part or by just killing his father while he was off guard
Tbh I don’t know whether I'm suppose to be glad woth the fact that I dropped this as soon as Aqua and Ruby found out their identities and the incest began
This would’ve been a much better ending for Oshi no ko Aqua wakes up in the hospital right next to Ruby and Miyako they start crying and are really happy that Aqua finally woke up kana and others are really happy that Aqua is fine after that, they all go outside to give Aqua some time to rest then, the crow girl appears in Aqua’s hospital room and she tells Aqua she was the one who saved him with her god powers she tells aqua, do not throw away your life. I gave you a second chance in life You are now surrounded by people that care about you you are more loved in this life then you were in your previous one do not throw all of that away, cherish your new life do not throw away your new life after telling this to Aqua, The crow girl disappears forever hours later Aqua and Kana are talking with each other then Aqua asked kana on a Christmas date Kana is of Cours shocked after hearing this but she accepts it then, finally on Christmas Eve, Aqua and Kana go on their Christmas date they both have a good time together by the end of the date Kana confesses her feelings to Aqua she tells aqua she loves him then Aqua suddenly kisses Kana then they both start dating they tell everybody the good news that him and Kana are now dating and aqua tells Ruby that they cannot be together in this life because they are now siblings. He apologizes to Ruby, but Ruby excepts it she excepts that or an aqua cannot be together in this life, because they are now siblings then finally Aqua kana and Akane go see Ruby‘s big performance at the dorm they all cheer on Ruby and mem Cho Aqua is really happy and also cries a little bit that his sister finally achieved her dreams Aqua cheers on Ruby and they all have a very good time The final scene is Aqua Ruby Kana Akane mem Cho Miyako and Ichigo are at Ai grave and aqua finally calls Ai mom all of them give their final goodbyes to AI and Aqua, and Ruby are finally able to move on from their mother‘s death and they all say goodbye to AI 🤩 this would’ve been a much better ending than the one we got
From what I understand, his editor took many liberties with how the story should unfold and what should be cut. Hikaru initially had a plan to end the series much earlier, but his editor pushed him to continue. In the end, he felt burned out and wanted to finish the story before going on vacation. This may explain the result we have today. The moral of the story is to avoid forcing a manga to continue until it’s no longer viable; it’s important to let it end when it should. I hope Hikaru will have more freedom with his next story.
Aqua literally went through 5 stages of grief and identity crisis... And when he actually realize his true persona, he sacrifice himself. It's so unnecessarily tragic that a character that supposed to have bright future ends himself. In AoT I already knew because its Eren ideology, he is destined to, like Pain in naruto. But Aqua ideology isn't supposed to be revenge, it must be forgiveness and hope.
I hope none of these "fans" end up repeating some of the deplorable shit that "fans" do to their idols or fav authors. Otherwise they missed the entire point of the story.
@@lordclansman4205 when you put it like that...🤣 Obviously, it would be horrible if that happened, but it would be too ironic and there is no way it wouldn't be pointed out
Yeah ending was so terrible the creator and writers so thought about how fans will react and thanks to this I’m not reading the manga anymore and watching the anime and similar works like this since authors or writers like this make there work worse forever.
I honestly don't see the merit on the ending, it's very easy to write a tragic ending that will make you feel like shit, but this one even contradicts the themes of the show and character development. The whole Kamiki thing is the stupidest, his plotline was solved, he found out he was wrong the whole time, that's when he turns himself in, it's over. Instead he goes back to do crazy shit just to force this ending.
I think narratively it’s a great ending. Emotionally, I hate it. And that’s same for everyone else. Even if it’s well written, people not liking it even if they can appreciate just makes the ending overall bad imo.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 I think there is a genuine difference between appreciation/respect and personal emotional enjoyment. We might not agree on that, but I believe most people have a somewhat similar stance to me. Thus, I really don't see how that's a contradiction.
@ It's a contradiction to say that the overall ending is bad while also calling it well-written. Those are mutually exclusive things. And I agree with you that appreciation and personal enjoyment are different things, but, this distinction gets completely undermined and even dismissed when you say "well, I didn't enjoy it, therefore, the ending is overall bad." In saying this, you are categorically rejecting the very distinction you claim you acknowledge. And, by the way, you say most people feel like you do, but this is just cap. I mean, you are operating on an echo chamber, looking at a video with several hundred comments, looking through the first few dozen of them, seeing that they more or less agree with you, and then concluding that this is somehow representative of tens millions of readers for the series. It's hysterical. You aren't obligated to like the series, but if you're going to be drawing conclusions about the ending being universally hated, then you can't use your own lack of enjoyment to support that. Also, suppose I were to grant your claim that the ending is universally hated. Let's say, hypothetically, that me and my friend alone are the only people who thought the ending was great, and all other tens of millions of readers in every country and every language hated it. Cool. If that's the case, then I guarantee you that most of them aren't making the distinction you're making between appreciation and personal enjoyment. Most people aren't smart enough to even understand such a distinction exists.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 For your first paragraph: I'll give that to you, I guess it is contradictory with my phrasing. For more context on it, I think that both aspects (narrative appreciation and emotional response) are equally important in determining an overall subjective quality of an ending. You assume that this video is my only resource. I agree that that I made an assumption on collective opinions without making it clear I assumed it, but your assumption of my bigotry in it all is a tad annoying, and a little hypocritical. Because you're interested, my assumption comes from multiple comment sections from multiple websites, but yes, it was an assumption. I agree with you, I think being able to make a conscious (or "self-aware") realization of something like this might be less common, however, I definitely think it's possible for people to hold this sentiment in a more subconscious way, if that makes sense.
It’s alright. I like when characters sacrifice themselves. People always hate on the ending early on and they like it later on. This is true for albums, games and even manga or anime. It makes sense for his character and the story. It’s a nice ending. Yes there were smaller plot lines that didn’t get fully closed but… their minor plots and in a show about the unfortunate realities of life and all that then it makes sense. He from the start never cared about himself idk what was expected. Also people love to hate on aot but everyone loves code geass. It’s the same ending hate for a better reason
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I know at first glance it may SEEM like Aqua and Ruby accomplished their goals, but they Accomplished them in the most BULLSH!T WAY POSSIBLE!!! AAAAAAAND let’s be real, the Dialogue in this final arc was absolutely ATROCIOUS!!! And about that crow girl, can we ALL agree that her personality COMPLETELY takes a massive shift after the first half of the movie arc, because before she was pretty much a Bully to Aqua and Ruby, and she teased them every chance she got. But after we get the flashback of her interacting with Serena in the past she straight up becomes a Nice Girl out of nowhere. She then has the audacity to Glaze the Hell out of Aqua (INEXPLICABLY) and literally watch’s as his body fade into absolutely nothing!!!
What was the point of all this? What was the point of spending 4 god damn years and making an anime about a 16 year old ldol mother who dies in front of her children and having one of her children die in the most LAUGHABLE way imaginable, and the other one be forever DOOMED to be just another carbon Copy of her mother, the one thing she said she’d never become!!! Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a literal stalker at that door Pointing a GUN at Ruby’s face while she has her head turned around. Another thing, even IF I go back to the 1st and 6th episode of the anime, i wouldn’t feel the least bit sad cause I don’t CARE anymore. And if we’re being honest, Akane should’ve died right then and there at the end of Ep 6, at least THEN Aka would’ve had something to SAY!!!
Aka: Eh, just want to let ya’ll know that this stuff can actually happen in real life, so you Should probably, you know, not do it anymore. Thanks😊
And I never actually watched or read the Tokyo Blade Arc in the anime or manga, but now I care about it even less now because WHATS THE DAMN POINT ANYMORE!!! And you can straight up count me out on continuing the anime. Cause who the hells gonna even care about Oshi No Ko by the time the anime gets a S3 and/or a S4 if THAT even happens!!! And even IF the anime changes the ending, it’s Already Too Late cause the damage has already been freaking done!!! All those animators and voice actors are just wasting their Blood Sweat and Tears for NOTHING now, and I just feel SAD for them right now!!! And now that his latest series got the Ax, Aka is now working on a Manga about and I Quote “a fairy-tale world, where princesses and princes are always guided by fate..." and apparently the artwork is being done by the guy who did Record of Ragnarok. But after this Atrocity of a Manga about Idols, I wouldn’t be surprised if that series gets Axed too, along with all of his Other future projects. Cause let’s be real, who the hell is gonna SUPPORT him after this!!!
Ruby didn't wanna become like Ai, she became an even sadder version of her.
Kana's love for Aqua was not only unfullfilled, it never got a chance to happen.
Throughout the manga, Akane constantly tried to save the boy who came to her rescue , only for him to stab himself and drown.
And Aqua, who never got over the death of his own mother, Ai, and Sarina; he never learned to love himself, in a story that is all about the notion of love.... this ending was a sick joke.
👏👏👏
Sounds like realistic love to me
Dying in a car crash on your way to your wedding can also be realistic... It would fucking suck regardless.
@@BlackHawk3927 nah only to messed up people
All props to ya dude you explain how bad the ending was not just saying the ending is bad without any explanation.
Its not the fact that he died that people did not like it, its the way he died
I don't think anybody is complaining about aqua's death other than shippers, people are more upset about how they handled ruby
@@Fuko0139 he could have ended up in coma and evntly hearing her perfom at dome while in hospital wakes up and story ends, no ships but ends like how it started in a hosptial room with idols music helping them
@@mrd456 oshi no ko is a tragedy, there is no point in having a happy ending
Also the way it speedsrun everyone's reaction feels just like bad lazy writting. Aqua dies, has his funeral and the very next thing is the final chapter of how evryone just kind got over it and now everyone cheer for Ruby's career...it just dosen't feel rigth.
@@silverbreaker9271To add it kinda makes the whole arc before this pointless. What was the movie for if the father was just going turn out evil in the first place? Why didn’t aqua just kill him then? It just felt rushed tbh I think this just needed more time
This ending is way too rushed. Legitimately needed another arc or 2. Ruby became Ai 2.0 after saying she wouldn’t…
I’ve been saying she is Walmart ai
That’s the problem with the author or writers they always ruin their own works and that’s why a lot fans hate them now.
@ yeah literally like this is the 3rd story he writes with an awful/ rushed ending
@@bubblesawesome3284 3rd? Kaguya-sama didn't have a rushed ending imo
@@AhnafAbdullah I meant to put 3 of his stories. I’m counting Oshi no ko. I’m that count
I didn't mind Aqua dying if the author had found a way to write it where it was inevitable and there was no other choice. The dude sacrificed himself so his sister could have a couple years of doing her dream job. Then, the idol industry would kick her out for growing too old and she & her group would be easily replaced. Also, they made Aqua's death feel very insignificant to many of the characters because after the funeral chapter, the next chapter showed everyone just moved on a couple days later. Also, Ruby's arc was quite a slap in the face, rather than taking the time to grieve and move on she decided to put on a metaphorical mask, hiding her true feelings from the world and living a life of lies. She literally became AI 2.0, rather than learning from AI's tragic past and becoming a better person.
I also think maybe some kind of afterlife scene with aqua couldve given some satisfaction with his ending. It felt so.. meaningless after he died, I think if there was a way to show him reunited with ai it couldve been better. Best we got were two stars in the sky
@@smuglumine9379crow girl said Ai's soul is gone so it could be the same with Aqua's. Showing them together for the last time would've ruin crow girl's words. But yes, it will satisfy the fans
@skii_aini671 i assumed she meant it as in she wont reincarnate, gone from the world. I meant it as in some kind of afterlife idk
Ai 2.0
Better version of person with worse mental health.
A sad ending is okay, but if the super smart main character suddenly goes for the most ridiculous and stupid “solution”, it loses all credibility.
Even more so if all the time it’s been established that he’s gotten slowly over his trauma, so he’s not even plausibly crazy at that point.
Writing a smart character requires the author to do smart decisions…
I'm sorry but the only sign of superior intelligence from him would be his profession in his previous life.
Hikaru loved confessing his missdeeds to the guy and he didn't record it even once.
Being in prison is good enough if he's there long enough.
@@LordDIO-z4w I disagree: we’ve seen him several times doing smart plots (tracking and preventing his gf from becoming a murderer, planing the whole movie revenge thing). Just at the end of the show he’s suddenly depicted as stupid. - Exactly as you described it.
Actually no he is dumb. The author later somehow ditch the idea of being a second life. Aqua is a new character a new born who somehow has the memories of Gorou (which doesnt make sense considering the plot and mainly Ruby has always been identifying herself as Sarina). Anyway Aqua isnt smart, its Gorou who is smart.
lots of better ways could have ended like
he is saved from drowning but ends up in a coma ruby does the same as she does in the manga and used pain to keep moving and ends up at tokyo dome but while performing her concert is on tv in aqua hospital room and that makes him wake up smiling that she got her dream.
it also means like how ais songs helped her now she has helped aqua and series ends in same place it all started
thats nice but now we got an ending where ruby lied about everything, prob date a red flag type of guy like ai and hikaru, and then got k*lled by a jealous fan instead
@quanlinglingdingle6122 don't think any version she would date red flag type of person
Sorry completely unrelated to your comment, but W for having a Fairy Tail profile pic
@@quanlinglingdingle6122 or Ruby getting killed by a crazy fan like Ai. Now that Aqua is gone, Ruby has no one to protect her from crazy fans unless she dates someone who moves in with her. She can't rely on Miyako, Ichigo or Akane at all times. They have their own lives to continue
This is the ending that is needed, with this many people's minds and emotions can be put at ease ending an amazing emotional roller coaster of a anime with a peaceful ending
The entire story: Everyone cared about Aqua and wanted him to live, Ai, the Saito’s, the Director, Arima, Akane, Mem, Taiki, the crow girl, Ruby, and even Aqua himself said he wanted to live and see Ruby perform at the dome.
Aqua Chapter 161: SUICIDE IS BADA-
I agree with you
The problem with alot of newgen anime and mangaka is that they keep using death and pain as an easy way to build and end drama, especially towards the end of the series. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. What they don't understand is that shoehorning these elements into a story that doesn't particularly need it would only leave the audience confused and unsatisfied. It's not about the thought of it, it's about it's execution. Does it make sense? Does it align with the story?
Nah, this is your typical 90's J-Drama ending. Down and depressed after the economic bubble had burst.
I wont say this is new, or a problem exclusive to newgen, a lot of old tales were like that. It's actually a problem that keeps coming back again and again, every time the writers of an era start running out of ideas. But yeah, the rest of it is spot on
Perhaps we treated MHA and JJK too harshly 😅
True. To be honest, I think we treated AOT and Demon Slayer more harshly(back in 2020 when DS’s ending dropped, a lot of people were furious that it was a timeskip of the future and not ending with the main characters)
@@M3m3l0rd12 Nah dude, there's no excuse for these huge downgrades of endings. AOT, demon slayer, MHA, JJK, tf is goin on? Are they doing it so the series ends on a favorable note to push marketing for merch?
Seems like the meta strat nowadays lol
@@daizenmarcurio to play devil's advocate, jjk didn't make the journey in vain--yuji got new appreciation of life and continue life with his friends. It's not a great ending, there are a lot of plot threads abandoned, but as far as main character's fate and 'moral message' of the story, it really isn't bad.
As far as online reception goes, AOT and MHA felt like you either loved it or hated it, Oshi no Ko feels like it’s disliked by almost everyone.
In my opinion, Hikaru was a poorly written and disappointing villain. The author tried to present him as sympathetic by making him a rape victim, but in the last chapter, he is described as a monster who killed many people. I’m sorry, but this comes off as artificial and doesn’t really connect with the overall theme of the entertainment industry.
Hikaru owns a production company, which could have been used to show how he leveraged his influence to abuse others, perpetuating the cycle of exploitation he experienced. This would have tied in perfectly with the theme.
In addition, the last chapters felt so hollow-it seemed as if all the characters had become empty shells.
I totally agree with the last few chapters feeling hollow and with the fact that Hikaru's character was just bad
I was legitimately wondering if I'd accidentally missed a few chapters because it was just so very abrupt going from "Hikaru is a victim but may not keep on continuing the cycle now" to "Hikaru absolutely has to die (and it cannot for some reason be passed off as him deciding to join Ai after finding out that his long-lost love actually did love him back)." In fact, it'd probably have been a lot less jarring to me if Hikaru had self-disposed & the full reasons were getting covered up for basically the same reasons Aqua had made his choices in canon. (A father who did that sort of thing would be just as bad if not worse than a twin brother.)
Actually this is genius, we need to stop viewing villains like oh no he was traumatised
Take the most vicious serial killer of all time they were traumatised too most of them weren’t privileged rich y rich rich.
Hikaru is well written because his character shows that even though evil people have reasons they still need to be held accountable and are evil till they take responsibility (which neither Hikaru, Airi nor Ryosuke nor anyone did)
@@barnabassebesteny1490 Yes but it was badly executed, the serial killer part wasn't really exploited, we only see the extent of his crime in one panel at the end of the story.
His story was over, he realized he was wrong, he was gonna turn himself in. Suddenly right at the end he plots to kill Ruby so Aqua has to sacrifice himself to kill him, absolutely stupid.
Oshi no Ko was by far the author's worst ending. Other manga, like Kaguya sama, were not as bad as people say. His other endings had some unsatisfactory elements, but the OnK ending was a total slap in the face to fans. No one learned anything, no character development was seen through, and everyone was left feeling empty and sleighted. I truly think Aka did it to punish fans.
Punish fans for what?
@cinderfox5217 2 main theories: 1. For criticizing his Aqua/Ruby ship. 2. For the failure and cancellation of his other manga. 3rd reason, just unknown.
Kaguya ending was atleast cathartic and satisfying even if it was bad. It was also the kind of genre that normally goes on for 10 seasons without anyone getting into a relationship before finally having a kiss and dating being the climax. Atleast we got more out of Kaguya than that. So while disappointed in that ending it didn’t hurt, it was still a pleasant final turning of the page.
But this?!?
This is a complete and utter travesty. This will turn me off of every project he does in the future. Short of a Lino and Yu spin off, because I wouldn’t be able to stop myself.
"It's fine that Ruby is alone without Aqua, because the Idol industry is totally fine now that Hikaru is gone! The series sure built Ruby as someone independent, well adjusted and industry savy without Aqua! Im sure Ruby is living her best life being top idol" - The ending, maybe
Until a new crazy fan pops up and 🔪 Ruby 💀
Who's gonna avenge her now?
Ruby is living in nightmare now, making a fake smile for the rest of her career, like her mother did. Aka is a monster
@@Kagerou180 This concept of having a character survive but making it more miserable than if they'd just died is pretty genius (it worked perfectly for Kamisama no Iu Toori 2) and in Oshi no Ko it might've been thought-provoking if Aka actually had something to offer as a writer...
It's the fact that nothing good really happened. It's just a plain tragedy with no closer or moral
Yapping session:
The issue with this ending is that it was rushed and illogical.
Aqua didn't have to die. He could be grown as a person. He could've provoked Hikaru and have Akane call authorities so the guy gets arrested or whatever, they could've thrown him in jail or a psych ward. Ruby just continuing living in lies in a miserable lonely life with all her biological family gone sucks and shouldn't happen.
If Aka wanted Aqua to die, he could've made Hikaru snap and stab him, and Aqua, struggling to get away from Hikaru while having an open wound, could fall in the water with him, on accident. But nah let's make him kill himself despite having a whole episode about why you should never do that to yourself amd your loved ones and make it look like it "needed to happen to save Ruby"
Also I'm so sad we didn't at least get to see Aqua reuniting with Ai in the afterlife. Imagine him calling Ai "mom" for the first time 🙁
Also why did Crow Girl just stand there and do nothing???
If Aka wanted Ruby to live similarly to Ai, he could've kept Aqua with her. Seriously it's so obviously rushed. I mean ik that writing can be hard, but I feel like the ending could've been handled better. Either have Aqua survive and go to therapy, either give us an actual unbeatable reason why he had to die and show grief in a better way. No hate to aka ofc, but I followed Aqua's story to see him grow as a person, which is what the series basically told me was gonna happen only for him to pull the "ha! Tragic death!" Card which is overused and annoying.
Hikaru wouldn't have done anything even if provoked though, when it ends it says he was only ever the instigator of the murders
Not to mention the fact that he started building up Kana's crush for Aqua right at the end just to kill him, so it would be more sad lol (it clearly worked but it was super unsatisfying).
Authors just want everyone to be as miserable as they are, huh?
We all saw this ending (Aqua's death) from miles away as Mephisto song was practically screaming it to our faces. Its just the way he died is what felt like a betrayal.
Writing is an art and all the master pieces of art required love and dedication. When you start a new piece of art to work with, the previous one gets distracting and your heart is no longer with it, which is by the way very natural. So authors should never work on two things at once in my honest opinion. This is what ruined Oshi No Ko.
When people start to work on multiple stories they already lost interest in the first, indeed. Easier to see in webnovels as they are faster and cheaper to produce.
Tbh Mephisto set the bar too damn high. It took OnK more seriously and told the story more poignantly and subtly than Akasaka ever could. It gave me feelings I never actually had for the series itself, still does. I'll forget about OnK itself but Mephisto will remain one of my favorite songs of all time.
And that’s why, ladies and gentlemen, fanfiction exists in these "dark" days/ times to let humanity’s "light" shine brightly in this world & universe through the "darkness" that is surrounding us all.
any recommendations so far? : " )
You know what they say, "The darkest nights produce the brightest star."
It’s crazy how Oshinoko was so peak and just go downhill so fast, glad I dropped it midway
Same situation with jjk, dropped it midway, cuz no f way I'll continue that shi
Nah trust, JJK is peak. Just ignore the last arc and pretend Gojo didn’t die to Sukuna (delulu is the solulu)
@@Elberich1the coping is real 😭
@@Elberich1After Shibuya arc jjk became sh*t it went downhill after the arrival of that so called clown prodigy yuta okklownsu
@@Elberich1After Shibuya arc jjk became sh*t it went downhill after the arrival of that so called clown prodigy yuta okklownsu
I'm so sorry for Ruby's ending. She'll never be happy for the rest of her life and will continue to live in a deceit of happiness. Aka really hated Ruby/Sarina.
Bro hates his fans
And worst case scenario, Ruby will kick the bucket out of existence due to depression.
@ or a crazy fan will attack her and she’ll end up like her mother.
@@bubblesawesome3284The crazy part about it is the fact that she will end up exactly like her mother (not sure about dying the same way but who knows). I thought the author would build more on the fact of her not trying to be basically Ai 2.0 but she already proves it by admitting she’s putting on a fake smile and lying in the last panel
@ I know and I find that weird. Like Ruby never wanted to lie like her mom lied. But now she is lying just like her mother. Walmart ai didn’t even get screen time or anything like she wasn’t developed like the others.
When this ending finally gets adopted in the anime anime only will have a full on mental breakdown. Manga readers are already having a mental breakdown I can’t even imagine how anime only will react Man, the final episode does get released the whole Internet and the world will be in chaos. It’s gonna be a bloodbath and I can’t wait to see it. I can’t wait to see people lose their minds after seeing this ending in the anime 😂🤣
I’m kinda 50 50 right now, on one hand I GENUINELY Want the anime to be CANCELLED at this point, but the other half wants what you just said🤔🤷
OR imagine they actually end up liking it and be confused on why manga readers hate it just like AoT, especially if the anime makes some changes and additions here and there that anime watchers won't be aware of.
Ah... so this is why that guy burned his Oshi no Ko manga. He knew this would happen to anyone who tried to tackle the series and wanted to spare them so badly. Like getting rid of a cursed tape before it can spread its curse.
Honestly, if the studio values itself, it should just deny producing the last arc of this. This can only hurt.
@@Kkubey or have an original ending for the anime and if fan demand is there, a movie to showcase the manga ending. That's the best way to play it safe for everyone.
Plot twist: Aka Akasaka is a huge fan of AOT's ending and decided to save it by making his own worse
😂
Not funny 😂😂
I feel mangaka they work their butt of and their fans decide to make fun of them
@@Justanormalperson777 both endings were lacking but Oshi no ko's is worse by a landslide
@@Justanormalperson777 u cannot start making peak cinema and then drop the ball like that
Tomodachi game just ended this year, and thank god it at least has a decent ending...
Its so rare to see another fan Tomodachi game, but yeah the ending was good
I just need that extra .5 chapter man, it would definitely help
HOW COME I HAVE NOT KNOWN, watching it ASAP
Golden Kamuy ended two years ago and it had absolutely flawless ending, the best ending ever
Atleast they should have made a panel where aqua and ai finally meet after a long time
Moral of the story dont oof yourself when trying to kill someone cause your life more valuable than that bullcrap. anyways even a natural fan like me not even that HUGE HUGE OF a fan just a little bit pisses me off a little
I don’t understand why they did a future seen in one of the manga pages like they had a whole scene from the future but none of it makes any sense now. It’s so different from the ending also aqua dying doesn’t make sense to me either. Like he said he was doing it for Ruby but like who’s going to protect Ruby now like she just became her mother she is Walmart Ai. She will probably end up just like her
i could see future Ruby will be either someone dead inside or falling to mental breakdown 🤔
She is already dead inside thanks to Aqua's wish to end himself, he was a twin brother, basically her half part and the closest person in her life. I hate Akasaka so much
This ending was so anticlimactic. It all felt rushed for a while now, like, I wish Nino's character was explored more, she had so much potential! Aqua's ending was disappointing because dude got no character development at all and dragged everybody down with him too... Ruby deserved a better treatment, I wish Sarina's family was also explored more. That would be interesting to see. I'd love to see Aqua forgiving himself, Kana showing him how to live life happily, I'd love to see him attending Ruby's performance in the dome... There was so much potential and yet all we've got was this garbage 😢
Akane was literally going to kill Kamiki hundreds of chapters earlier. That dumbass Aqua stopped her, the exact point where the manga went to shit.
It was the only way to avoid aqua X ruby
he confirmed early on he dont see her that way and never will
Did you read manga through reels or something stop spreading misinformation
I would have preferred Aqua x Ruby over this shit
@@masterpink6963 if wanted him with ruby then what if did similar to clannad so that dream had was his alternate future he now gets to have where she lives and becomes idol and ends up with her but has memories erased as aqua so gets a fresh start
@@masterpink6963 ew
Oda is hopefully spending a bit of his break trying to plan out the ending, cause trust me, people will NOT be happy if he fumbles the ending to One Piece.
Oh we won't we all know the treatment Gege Akutami is getting
Bro there might be a worldwide riot if it fumbled
I think that some people respect him so much that they wouldn’t even mind if the ending was the friendship along the way. He is really popular and many people are okay if he has a fumble.
Hopefully not cause imagine investing 25 years to read/watch One Piece just for Oda to fumble the ending
@SolemnJockey yeah bro someone might die cause of it
Simply they are using pain and depression to end animes
I have faith in Fujimoto since he's an experienced author and Fire Punch was amazing, but if Chainsaw Man fumbles it too I'm gonna cry
Nah, I'd win
no way chainsaw man disappoints too
Some would say part 1s ending was already botched and part 2 is just getting decently interesting the past few months
@nobodyexceptme7794 and they'd be wrong
@@SirGa1ahad I feel like a number of people set the ending of part 1 was very much rushed because they wanted to relaunch it in the flagship magazine
Great, now I don't care to watch season 3 when it comes out, I'm dropping it. This was so disappointing (>.
Maybe the anime will change it's ending. Who knows? Some anime don't make their ending accurate to the manga, like death note. Aot's manga ending has a lot of hate but when the anime adapts it. People begin to calm down and accept the ending. If you'd like, you can watch it in the future if someone says Onk has a different but good ending
@@skii_aini671 the anime changing solution is a good fix, but its more uncommon that it seems, because unfortunately it can only happen when the AUTHOR themselves give creative liberty to the studio, be it because they also dislike the ending they made or if the anime gets ahead of the manga and the mangaka thinks they won't be able to catch up. Else it just doesn't happen, because the Japanese, even if they also dislike the ending (they hated it more than us btw, surprisingly) think it's disrespectful to do it.
Not a mind reader, but I'm pretty sure Aka does not regret this ending one bit, so this sh*t's staying. I know its a tragedy, but even since greek times, sad stories had morals other than 'wouldn't it be messed up if that happened?' or 'that happened, it sucked lol'. The ShowBiz is a Bad Place is the moral of the story, we knew it from chapter 4, so what other lessons is there to learn by sticking to the end? "People will get over your death pretty quick" and "S**cide will fix all your problems actually"? Aka you aight buddy?
honestly, i didn't really like how things in story were warped up, ruby heavily shadowed any other character than her in the ending. like i get it, she is a main character, but it felt like they just kinda disappeared last chapter and like they didnt matter as much as before, all of them had big dreams and we only got to see ruby achieving her dream. was hoping to get something mentioned about the other characters future, even a small talk about it or a meeting in a bar/someone's place of them after they didn't meet in a while.
the problem isn't that Aqua dies, the problem is that how we get there is explained like shit. Aqua from the play arc from S2 is more revenge minded and uncaring about the present than the Aqua from the final arcs.
In the anime the reason Akane struggles to break up with him is because he doesn't wanna revenge anymore and at that moment Aqua doesn't know the twisted shit his father went thru yet to sympathise with him. Taiki told him about his parents and Aqua already tapped out and the separation between Goro and Aqua gets worse after S2.
Even with the identity reveals he isn't as locked in as he used to be, during his last moments he wants to live. On top of that bro is gone while the graduation tour is going on so we don't see him spotting the flowers, but Akane sees them.
By the way the last arc was told it makes more sense to think Akane would sacrifice.
Two other News happening like Blue Lock Season 2 been slammed for been PNG Frames ⚽️ & One Piece’s Creator Oda having health problems putting the latest Manga Chapters on hiatus 😢
Kana ; whats my purpose???
I just hope the anime of Oshi No Ko will be different from the manga with a different ending and more changes there. This time, all hands will be on Mengo as she has quite undivided attention alongside the director, Daisuke. Though not now, but next year with season 3 and the years followed for it takes time to wait.
here is to hoping that the anime can have an anime only ending
Oshi no Ko's ending reminded me of Bleach's ending where everything is rushed and a resolution was reached without taking the proper steps. But at least, that manga retained a semblance of intelligence and had love from the author. Unlike Bleach, Oshi no Ko wasn't axed by the publisher. No, this manga's writer just lost interest in his story and wrapped up the ending in just 5 chapters. This manga was a cash cow, it was beloved by everyone, and fans were looking forward to the backstories of Hikaru and the other idols in B-Komachi. All of that was skipped. Hell, even the character arcs of the main cast was cut short because Akasaka was privileged enough to lose interest in writing a story that was his main source of income.
What wouldn't I give to be in a position where I get to write stories and an artist actually agrees to draw them out in a weekly magazine. That's why Oshi no ko's ending make me more angry than I should be.
The anime needs either to stop with season two, or pretend this BS end never happened and go anime-original for story development and the ending. Screw the manga.
Also, who in their right mind would ever pick up any of Aka's new works again?
Why not? Tell the truth, you get your joy riding this roller coaster? If yes, why wouldnt repeat it? I hear some wining about kaguya-sama is not about love is war after christmas arc, but people read it anyway.
@@Stoun1we Its like riding a rollercoaster then you'll know at the end, it will dump you on a pool of feces. Would you still ride it?
I'd at least wait until it ends.
@@PassingAmoeba feces is blowing out of proportion, but if you enjoying roller coaster ride. What would be in the end, would be in the end, until ride. I get my joy reading, even if it doesnt fit my understanding of ending. And one day i would like to read it again. Dont be snowflake, this story is fiction, no real human was mentioned. No companies was involved. You know that disclamer sh4t.
@@Stoun1we Yeah, I know its not exactly feces but its the best I can think of to your rollercoaster analogy.
All the author needed to do was have Kana learn everything about Aqua and his revenge / trying to protect Ruby plot, confess her love to Aqua and stop him, let the evil dad get arrested and spend the rest of his life in jail and finally everyone lives happily ever after that was all he had to do could have been told in just as many chapters!!!
Or putting more semi-realistic story work. This kind of ending is just suckass.
I think this is a good Kana ending for the reader, her and Akane were basically the only ones handled okay. If you keep denying and throwing fits, you'll never end up with the person you like.
Hm, actually, the director's reaction was good, too.
Personally, I liked the ending and seeing people grieve over aquas but move forward and try the best they can to be so their life has meaning was a great way to end it off imo. Though people say Ruby has become like Ai by putting on a metaphorical mask, I think it was needed because if she didn’t she wouldn’t have been able to move on.
i didn't hate it...but it was disappointing. First of all, that ending was rushed like it was a fast and furious movie. aqua's death don't get even time nor chapters to actually make the other characters have a real development. there was also a lot of stuff by hikaru's side that could potentially frame him and aqua not having to die. in general it feels like the author pressed the "oh shit" button for some reason. maybe the fandom or whatever and just ended everything asap.
Aka as Darth Sidious: “Your hate has made Oshi no Ko powerful. Now fulfill your destiny, take Attack on Titan’s place by my side.”
Cringe and childish
I'm still trying to figure out what was so bad about MHA's ending? If it's the last two pages, those felt more like an Omake, but Deku becoming a Hero teacher seemed like a pretty fair ending to me. Can someone explain the discourse?
Agreed.
Agreed, yes it sucks that Deku lost OFA but at least he got an Iron Man suit and could continue being a hero at the end after 8 years of being a teacher at UA alongside being the greatest hero after defeating Shigaraki with everyone in the world seeing him defeat him when all hope was lost
As a huge mha fan, I loved the ending, it wasn’t the best but it was decent
I think what most people are disappointed about it is that the ships never got confirmed, Deku kept saying: “and this is how I became the best hero!” And yknow all of this just for it to be whipped away from us last second
I think it was mostly due to how it was misinterpreted/mistranslated from leakers.
People finally realizing the MHA ending is not bad.
The world is healing. 🙏🙏
Yeah well, that's what happens when you side track too much instead of progressing the plot, you end up with a rushed half-baked ending.
I remember getting flamed for saying author should focus more on main characters and overall main plot line. People loved all this side character development, well there is always a tradeoff in this case it was this mid to bad ending.
I don’t think they ever specified that they recovered a couple days later. They said Ruby didn’t leave her room for *days*, we don’t know how many days they mean. Ruby eventually had to move forward anyways, maybe her mother’s genes was why she became a lier like Ai. Plus Aqua’s death is also controversial as Ai’s was in the manga. Maybe that’s one thing Aka wanted to show.
Thank GOD I stopped at the first volume as soon as I realized that the series wasn't going to be what I thought it was LMAO. Saved myself THAT heartache, would've lost my absolute mind
I think the mangakas r just a bit too proud of them selves
Or rather arrogant.
Well, time to start boycotting their work then!!
Japan getting rid of the ability for them to mask their identities and using pen names so they're gonna have to tread carefully especially those rom com mangaka those guys are cooked
@SolemnJockey why is it always the ending!!! 😭 most satisfying part a the story
Makes a man wonder what was the point of all those plotlines if none of them even got resolved aside from the main plot. Sounds like Aka got bored.
I'm really hoping we get a Fuuka doover for Oshi no Ko anime. I'm sad for those dedicated fans that wasted their precious time reading this.
I was just thinking about the anime only Fuuka story while scrolling and found your post.
@Bob-rb9zw These mangakas are getting out of hand as of late, they have this odd belief that killing off popular characters is the new trend, terrible taste I say.
I took a break like on January because I didn’t like the community and now I find out aqua’s dead and the manga ended?
Aqua didn't need to die, let alone nearly choosing his own death. this wasn't a happy ending at all.
Try Mega Heart, a oneshot by Mengo. It's basically the Oshi no Ko alabama route we never got, and even if you end up hating it, at least it's only like 50 pages long, not multiple volumes lol
Why you want incel?
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The fact that I’ve actually seen AI make a better ending than this Disaster Fire of a manga says VOLUMES!!!
I’m kinda 50 50 right now, on one hand I GENUINELY Want the anime to be CANCELLED at this point, but the other half wants what you just said🤔🤷
Anime could make a better ending than the manga, some studios change the ending from manga
The most discouraging that ruby va can get part of hate, that ruby as the character received. I bet she is cursing that day, when she gets this present and landmine called ruby from oshi no ko creators. Dont forget that its her first main cast role. Thats funny. Fate sometimes can be unpredictable.
Damn I never thought about this, I'll pay money to see Igoma's real reaction to the last few chapters ahahah
Glad i am not the only one who was let down by the ending.
honestly i hope that they both give an anime original ending and that his new manga is the oshi no ko characters but reincarnated (that way not only the future of the anime is saved but also the manga gets saved)
but yeah one can only hope
Phew, I dodged a bullet by not reading this manga. Watched the first chapter and thought the main girl was AI, she dies and I decided to ignore it.
I stopped watching anime/manga that are too hyped since AoT.
I like more niche products nowadays and I play gacha games more often too. They fulfill what I want more than anime.
I hope the author never makes a manga again
no way i made it on here LMAOOO
Theyll just have the character wake up and realize it was just a dream.
OUR HOPES LIE IN MENGO: start a chain to get this attention
You don't know Mengo.
@@LordDIO-z4w Never said I did? I want Mengo to make a separate ending?…
@@umerriaz7676I just mean the ending you hope for arent her style.
@@LordDIO-z4w I mean that Mengo should make her own version of the ending….. It’s okay, it was kinda hard to understand what I meant.
@@umerriaz7676 there is a whole video about her previous works and those endings all just teach you that life is cruel and people sometimes cope with it poorly.
Most of the characters set a bad example.
I wonder why it's so hard nowadays for a mangaka to write a good ending to their story 🤔
Wow, I didn't expect to see my comment on your video. XD
I'm not against Aqua dying. I'm fine with that really, just as long as it was executed properly. Aqua died a stupid death. There are many ways he could prevent it while also protecting Ruby's future. I mean, he had 14 years of his life to plan the perfect murder and he wasted it all.
My Hero was fine. Oshi No Ko became Oshikko by the end. JJK spent 50+ chapters repeating the same pattern.
I’m not type of person that buys a manga and they never reads it. This is one of those manga’s am gonna go donated somewhere I swear to God
My version if i was the creator: aqua falls into the water with his father and he is about to run out of breath but then he saw ai right in front of him reaching her hand to save him and then aqua drowns but then for some reason he survived but he is in a coma. Ruby goes and peforms but then when she was about to leave after done performing, she saw ai right in front of her and it turns out ai was alive this whole time and then ai told ruby everything so basically ai did get stabbed, and then ai acted dead but then ai secretly called the ambulance and then got saved and then ruby runned to ai and hugged her and aqua finally wakes up and hears about it and then he was super happy and sad and then thats how the book ends. Tbh the original ending is straight up ASS. 💀👌
I don't if it's that terrible, but burning a book just because the story ending is bad is just delusional.
Honestly the ending is bad but since aka akasaka was in an very tight schedule on making another manga.. he kinda rushed oshi no ko.
I mean... Aka Akasaka knows how to make good ending, he did Love is War and the ending (and the hole manga) was peak.
Also is not always that we can and are able to make a good ending for our storysp
ik bro just wanted to finish writing that damn manga lmao 😭😭 he was DONE
I'm dead. The video seemed PG at most and the voiceover was so serious and elegant I would've never expected this kind of review 6:38 to pop up full-screen. Made me laugh like a witch but it's such an accurate portrait of the audience's appalled reaction to the ending.
the writer should have done these ending
-Villian gets what he deserved either getting jailed and exposed for his evil doing and what kind of effects idol industry has
- villan dies and exposed for his evil doing and what kind of effects idol industry has
For aqua living
- Aqua x akane = having their relationship Aqua gets semi closure that akane can turn to AI which he cant let go so they live a "lie" and loved each other
- Aqua x Kanna = him going to the concert and taking 3 white light sticks, grow to love each other secret knowing the scandal but aqua can let go of revenge
- Aqua x ruby = The incest troupe where the ending would give shit ton of "controversy"
Aqua dying
Kanna back to the studio she finds a VIP tokyo dome ticket and having 3 white light sticks. Showing him loving kanna and she becoming his oshi no idol. kanna getting her closure that aqua loved her.
Aka never manages to land the ending. To be honest, I think it’s a struggle for a lot of writers. It’s actually very rare that I’ve found an ending that I enjoyed. My favourite book series, The Wheel of Time, even has a trash ending.
At least with Love is War, it wasn’t completely terrible; just a little lacklustre. Oshi no Ko on the other hand, just didn’t feel good at all.
Okay this sucks, like I think the ending itself isn’t bad but that it’s a horrible fit for the story it’s just the wrong ending for this series it would work for a lot of other series but not this one
Looks like we need another Code Geass (with Lelouch) and Mob psycho
I think my problem with the ending is like Ruby has suffered so much with her past life and then suffers again with her new life having both mother and brother die like she isn’t catching a break. Maybe not every story has a happy ending, but she definitely deserves one.
the problem isn't the character, the author has written enough manga to know better.
Sure some things didn't need to happen, such as the romance element, but if the Alabama route makes more sense than the ending we got, that has to at least say something about how the author handled the ending of the story.
I never actually got the reason why was hikaru killing everyone? I mean really WHY?
I like the fact that Ruby decides to move on and not just depressed or something.
But seriously Aqua's death and the way Hikaru was defeated is literally bad writing. He's building to be a pretty dangerous enemy and difficult to deal with but then in the end he just simply gets push down a cliff and drowned? That's like Akasaka has reached his limit and can't write any peak or mid ending.
All I can say for new fans or people who's about to start:
Only read the Oshi No Ko manga up to the end of the 2.5D Stage Play Arc or don't read Chapter 160-166 at-all.
Watch only the two seasons of Oshi No Ko's anime adaptation.
Maybe if the live-action has a second season don't watch it. I'm concerned about the "The Final Arc" live-action move rn.
The rest of the stories is up to your imagination. I agree the ending was terrible, Ai's will for her 2 child to live become meaningless, hope she beats Aqua up there.
man becuz of these endings some peoples interest on watching anime is gonna drop just like me like why JP mangakka whyyyyyyyyyy
And meanwhile One Piece is still going on with no end in sight for the foreseeable future at this point. Imagine if One Piece ends like this-Luffy commits a murder suicide upon finding the legendary treasure!
I feel like it would have made more sense if they made his death was inevitable but he quite literally could have saved himself by stabing a non vital part or by just killing his father while he was off guard
I just finished my manga and I was so mad I had to have someone agree with me...
Tbh I don’t know whether I'm suppose to be glad woth the fact that I dropped this as soon as Aqua and Ruby found out their identities and the incest began
Glad you didn't read it anymore after you realized it was taking the incest route.
This would’ve been a much better ending for Oshi no ko
Aqua wakes up in the hospital right next to Ruby and Miyako they start crying and are really happy that Aqua finally woke up kana and others are really happy that Aqua is fine after that, they all go outside to give Aqua some time to rest then, the crow girl appears in Aqua’s hospital room and she tells Aqua she was the one who saved him with her god powers she tells aqua, do not throw away your life. I gave you a second chance in life You are now surrounded by people that care about you you are more loved in this life then you were in your previous one do not throw all of that away, cherish your new life do not throw away your new life after telling this to Aqua, The crow girl disappears forever hours later Aqua and Kana are talking with each other then Aqua asked kana on a Christmas date Kana is of Cours shocked after hearing this but she accepts it then, finally on Christmas Eve, Aqua and Kana go on their Christmas date they both have a good time together by the end of the date Kana confesses her feelings to Aqua she tells aqua she loves him then Aqua suddenly kisses Kana then they both start dating they tell everybody the good news that him and Kana are now dating and aqua tells Ruby that they cannot be together in this life because they are now siblings. He apologizes to Ruby, but Ruby excepts it she excepts that or an aqua cannot be together in this life, because they are now siblings then finally Aqua kana and Akane go see Ruby‘s big performance at the dorm they all cheer on Ruby and mem Cho Aqua is really happy and also cries a little bit that his sister finally achieved her dreams Aqua cheers on Ruby and they all have a very good time The final scene is Aqua Ruby Kana Akane mem Cho Miyako and Ichigo are at Ai grave and aqua finally calls Ai mom all of them give their final goodbyes to AI and Aqua, and Ruby are finally able to move on from their mother‘s death and they all say goodbye to AI 🤩
this would’ve been a much better ending than the one we got
From what I understand, his editor took many liberties with how the story should unfold and what should be cut. Hikaru initially had a plan to end the series much earlier, but his editor pushed him to continue. In the end, he felt burned out and wanted to finish the story before going on vacation. This may explain the result we have today. The moral of the story is to avoid forcing a manga to continue until it’s no longer viable; it’s important to let it end when it should.
I hope Hikaru will have more freedom with his next story.
I personally like the ending, even if aqua didn't have to die it still is a decent ending. Much better than jjk and mha endings at least.
Aqua literally went through 5 stages of grief and identity crisis... And when he actually realize his true persona, he sacrifice himself. It's so unnecessarily tragic that a character that supposed to have bright future ends himself.
In AoT I already knew because its Eren ideology, he is destined to, like Pain in naruto. But Aqua ideology isn't supposed to be revenge, it must be forgiveness and hope.
I hope none of these "fans" end up repeating some of the deplorable shit that "fans" do to their idols or fav authors. Otherwise they missed the entire point of the story.
i hope that was the real ending, aka points it out exactly how it happens in real life; he could actually do it right now but its just cope.
That's hilarious, some angry fan kills Aka and then we smugly smile and say "heh... He missed the point of the manga"
@@lordclansman4205 when you put it like that...🤣
Obviously, it would be horrible if that happened, but it would be too ironic and there is no way it wouldn't be pointed out
I am betting like Ai's death people will be sad about this for short time and this "buzz" will be forgotten in 3 weeks.
That's just the internet in general
Yeah ending was so terrible the creator and writers so thought about how fans will react and thanks to this I’m not reading the manga anymore and watching the anime and similar works like this since authors or writers like this make there work worse forever.
I honestly don't see the merit on the ending, it's very easy to write a tragic ending that will make you feel like shit, but this one even contradicts the themes of the show and character development. The whole Kamiki thing is the stupidest, his plotline was solved, he found out he was wrong the whole time, that's when he turns himself in, it's over. Instead he goes back to do crazy shit just to force this ending.
I think narratively it’s a great ending.
Emotionally, I hate it. And that’s same for everyone else. Even if it’s well written, people not liking it even if they can appreciate just makes the ending overall bad imo.
Ngl this feels pretty accurate to what im feeling about the ending lol
You just contradicted yourself.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 I think there is a genuine difference between appreciation/respect and personal emotional enjoyment. We might not agree on that, but I believe most people have a somewhat similar stance to me. Thus, I really don't see how that's a contradiction.
@ It's a contradiction to say that the overall ending is bad while also calling it well-written. Those are mutually exclusive things. And I agree with you that appreciation and personal enjoyment are different things, but, this distinction gets completely undermined and even dismissed when you say "well, I didn't enjoy it, therefore, the ending is overall bad." In saying this, you are categorically rejecting the very distinction you claim you acknowledge.
And, by the way, you say most people feel like you do, but this is just cap. I mean, you are operating on an echo chamber, looking at a video with several hundred comments, looking through the first few dozen of them, seeing that they more or less agree with you, and then concluding that this is somehow representative of tens millions of readers for the series. It's hysterical. You aren't obligated to like the series, but if you're going to be drawing conclusions about the ending being universally hated, then you can't use your own lack of enjoyment to support that.
Also, suppose I were to grant your claim that the ending is universally hated. Let's say, hypothetically, that me and my friend alone are the only people who thought the ending was great, and all other tens of millions of readers in every country and every language hated it. Cool. If that's the case, then I guarantee you that most of them aren't making the distinction you're making between appreciation and personal enjoyment. Most people aren't smart enough to even understand such a distinction exists.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 For your first paragraph: I'll give that to you, I guess it is contradictory with my phrasing. For more context on it, I think that both aspects (narrative appreciation and emotional response) are equally important in determining an overall subjective quality of an ending.
You assume that this video is my only resource. I agree that that I made an assumption on collective opinions without making it clear I assumed it, but your assumption of my bigotry in it all is a tad annoying, and a little hypocritical. Because you're interested, my assumption comes from multiple comment sections from multiple websites, but yes, it was an assumption.
I agree with you, I think being able to make a conscious (or "self-aware") realization of something like this might be less common, however, I definitely think it's possible for people to hold this sentiment in a more subconscious way, if that makes sense.
If only the author could consulted Sadayuki Murai or Yoshikazu Takeuchi first before finishing the ending. 🤔
It’s alright. I like when characters sacrifice themselves. People always hate on the ending early on and they like it later on. This is true for albums, games and even manga or anime. It makes sense for his character and the story. It’s a nice ending. Yes there were smaller plot lines that didn’t get fully closed but… their minor plots and in a show about the unfortunate realities of life and all that then it makes sense. He from the start never cared about himself idk what was expected. Also people love to hate on aot but everyone loves code geass. It’s the same ending hate for a better reason