This Won't Make A Difference
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- I have very little time or respect for those that profit off of the hard work and creativity of others, without exercising the empathy those people deserve. In short, I am neither happy nor sad - I think it means nothing.
#magicthegathering #wotc #dungeonsanddragons
Remember kids: Good things never happen *because* of a CEO, they always happen in spite of them.
Unless ypur CEO is the guy who owns Larian Studios
@@devinloew7681see kids? this is why we can't have nice things.
@@devinloew7681 nope.
@@devinloew7681no. Workers are the only ones who actually make things. CEOs can listen to their workers or not. CEOs and investors are leeches, they do nothing. Purely useless, there to collect checks for simply owning paper.
Yup incredibly true
I care because she was a Tobacco Troll. She worked 12 years at Altria, the parent company of Philip Morris, the makers of Marlboro Cigarettes.
She brought her experience with predatory business practices to WotC.
I used to think the working world was you had to literally start from an entry level position & work your way into supervisory positions which would allow you to be a competent boss because you would be able to empathize with your subordinates, and understand exactly what their days were looking like during working hours. When I worked at Starbucks in 2007, I was surprised to find out the regional manager had never actually worked in a coffee shop before.
I mean, like 40+ years ago the world was kind of like that. Besides all the nepo hires that started directly into small team management
I'd very much get behind the "art reserved list" to make cards affordable and art pieces rare
How will this make cards more affordable?
@@mellowyellow5427cos you could reprint underground sea into the ground, just never with the original art
@@mellowyellow5427just imagine 1 billion copies of each card used in Legacy that costs more than 5 € right now.
Just imagine, the sheer amount of "offer".
That's how you get cardboard pieces' prices down to 1€,
@@jasonsavory9748 Yep, I've never understood any arguments against this. The originals would still undoubtedly hold a lot of value. OG dual lands are collector pieces first and foremost, and reprints with new art can only hurt that so much. The value of the old printings would likely take a hit, but it's not as if they'll become worthless overnight.
I totally agree. Stuff like the Guru Lands or the old European Art Lands are an excellent example of the art being scarce but the game pieces not being scarce.
Went to business school and got a management degree. In an ideal world, management is there to do 5 things. Have the right people, at the right place, at the right time, with the right tools, and then let them work. The workers are there to produce value, management is only there to facilitate that work. The world we're in, management gets all the credit and the workers are treated as disposable. It's not popular to say you went to business school, but some of us are out here fighting the good fight.
I don't blame you. My life would probably have been better if I got my master's in evil.
in the real world managers are mostly superfluous at best and actively a hindrance most of the time.
im glad at least some of you seemed to have learned the right lessons
#PleasantKenobiforCEO!
On the whole "milking the cow" thing, sadly that's how business works. Long-term health is not important, it's what can you show the shareholders at the next announcement. There's no use doing something that will benefit the game in 2-5 years and not now, because then you have nothing to show at the next meeting. Also, if your idea succeeds, you probably won't be in that position any more and you've just handed a win to the guy that took your job. It's why politicians here in the US don't do anything real to address our problems and instead slap on quick fixes like bandages on sucking chest wounds. Eventually the wound bleeds through, but the politician is either gone or they've moved on to something else.
Like here in Italy
There's no strong set of ideals and principles that carte a huge and deep path across the History and the theoretical plane of Strategy, it's just short-term benefits; like a lazy teenager
It is the same in germany, with most of the politicans.
Not everyone, some are exceptions.
I think it is a problem to have more and more politicans who are just this, politicans.
They dont want to make the people happy, they want to develope their own portfolio and want to get elected again.
I think we need more people who wants to male politics and less politicans. If you know what I mean.
@@timiturret148 yeah, some clear path lasting decades to stir the whole "Ship" towards a greater goal.
Everyone that actually does this at this very moment is a tyrant .... sadly
Add "All basic lands are full art" to your platform and you'll have my vote
A CEO is that kid that claims they came up with the idea for the group project and never does a lick of work after.
See also professor, usually named last in article authorship in academia.
The whole "fiduciary duty" thing that, at least in the US, legally requires CEOs to make decisions for the benefit of controlling shareholders even at the expense of everything else is anti-business and outright silly. Those shareholders don't have any personal connection to the game and this practice is mutilating companies. The responsibility of the person running the business at the top should be...the health of the business.
There is a big crisis in corporate control in the USA brewing, and it's 100% caused by fiduciary duty. Every metric we have shows that it's bad and against even the shareholders' interest.
@@TheGoodColonel but you see line go up, pocket got fatter. So who cares. When the business tanks because of these obvious bad practices, just go invest in another.
@@TheGoodColonel its the entire system of capitalism not just 1 law
there should be no ome at the top though.
it's shocking that the duty is so closely linked to literally the next quarter. Like I would imagine if I owned stock in Hasbro I would want them to double over the next 5 years rather than go up 20% before crashing, but what do I know I am but a humble proletarian without a business masters degree
You've got my vote for CEO
It's not about who, really. Nobody is immune to corruption from money
@@shoopy44 yeah that's fair enough
"and you've got my axe"
Same, my vote is here. Let's gather under this comment
@@shoopy44this is a really awful world view. It's not that money corrupts, it's that to pursue that level of money you have to be corrupt. No one happens upon billions and then gets slowly turned evil. They were evil to be able to pursue that billion. Look at lottery winners, they don't slowly turn into insidious villains they go bankrupt or they quietly live with their families off the money until they die.
@@bye1551😂
I dunno man, I'm pretty sure that WotC/Hasbro are pure and blameless now due to her departure. Everything bad that's happened was solely her fault and now things will get better... Right?
Everyone whose value is based (on a huge and important percentage) on "face value", like fame, will never admit their fault and will accuse others, because that's a short term gain for them. By adding that most people have a very short memory, then they'll be fine.
So yes, you are rightfully sarcastic
Unless Hasbro miraculously changes their approach, I can't see anything changing. Your ideas are fantastic, however👍
The thing that interests me isn't that she is leaving, but more how she left and the timing as to when she is leaving (two weeks before the first quarterly report of the year)
Also the fact that they probably weren't prepared for her to leave because there no announcement of who is replacing her yet.
Lol who cares
Always remember: if any jobs should be replaced by AI, the most appropriate ones are the CEOs first.
Wouldnt the ai choose shareholders over product users more so?
Replace the shareholders first.
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I feel like it is rather an after-effect of some struggle or disagreement or change of direction than it is a cause of change in and of itself.
CEOs absolutely have agency in corporate affairs. They are THE boss. I also agree that they have a vague idea of what the employees are doing but have no idea what the employees actually do (the processes, time involved, the amount of employees/specific talents necessary to do the process). I’ve seen it firsthand even in small businesses. They can’t even make a schedule which I guess is why most usually hire a secretary to do it. Most of them are just guys with money and an idea to grow it but don’t know how to do the idea so they usually partner with a friend that does, then hire people to do everything, and once they are big enough they cut the other guy out and sometimes sell the company and keep 100% since they removed the partner.
I don't think it will really matter. As just some random player, from time to time, I can say that, prior to this announcement, I had no idea who held the position she is vacating, and I think she is a role above any possible cutoff point where they might be a fan/participant AND corporate component. The masters of Hasbro, till all are one, don't take their own products home, and use them as a consumer; they produce them to sell them, to make a profit, and that's their job, so I don't expect anyone who gets the job to suddenly be a devoted player, who also happens to work there, and willing to risk that promotion to try and persuade Hasbro from just maximizing profits, as their job is profiting off of Magic, and D&D; not playing, and enjoying the game(s). It might be nice for that person to have e such caring, but then I feel like that person wouldn't have climbed so high in that environment.
My only hmmm point with this, honestly, is the lack of a replacement already bring planned. It's fine that she is stepping down, whether to get poached to another job, retire off of her perks, or just focus on something else, and it's great that it appears to have been amicable; they didn't shit-can her for Markov Manor, or the $1,000 boxes of Reserve List proxies, but I feel like it could have been "hey, I'm considering leaving, so we should probably promote/hire a new body, while I wrap up my time here, enabling a smooth transition", and the fact that they didn't; that even her peaceful departure seems to be happening in a time frame where they hadn't already picked someone else, and might not have that person prior to her last day, is a little bit odd, especially on corporate stuff, where they don't like surprises. I don't think it will be a problem; that they will suffer for her absence, or we will notice it, or her replacement, but still a little bit odd.
The list of CEOs who are good to their employees is so small.
Without Cocks out of the picture and someone in place who wants longevity of the company it's not looking good.
Why it's not?
I've been developing a TCG for the last 5 years called Kingdoms TCG. A project born from my passion for TCG's having grown up playing them and then continuing to play them into adulthood paired with wanting to be a game designer. The game has a MTG vibe to it in that you have a commander (we call them royals), 2 actually, any legendary creature (we call them heroes) and/or planes walker (we call them lords). Separate land deck. 2 draws per turn. Hearthstone combat but there's a second zone where u can keep units safe (called ur kingdom), and face is only an option if your unsafe units are all tapped (or card effects, keywords ect.). I've been doing an open beta in my local area since last July. Nearly all the art is local to my city. Every set I release has serialized product in it. Current pull rate is 1 in 10 packs. That obv wont stay that low forever but my manufacturer can scale up to 9999 per card in a set. I see this as its own reserve list in a way, but I also do really like the idea of doing one time arts, and one time borders, ect. I recently released a 1 of 1 steamboat willie card to be found in the most recent set. My philosophy is also that people shouldn't have to spend more than like $60-100 bucks on singles to build a deck, because no individual card should be worth more than a buck or 2, unless you want it to. Look it even rhymes. That's a good slogan. Kingdoms TCG - Cause no 1 card should be worth more than a buck or 2, unless you want it to! Anyway, vote me for CEO! Oh wait, I am the CEO. Or well, I'm soul proprietor. Uh...? Kickstarter soon! Well soonish. Kinda like when u see a poster for a movie for the first time soon. Like a year-ish.
From an outside perspective she did a great job on paper, WotC made record profits for the otherwise struggling company and there was no known beef. So they'll probably look for someone similiar or more aggressive next. I believe she was "underpaid" at least compared to her male counterpart before her, maybe that was a factor. Or anything else happened, we may never know
I do think CEOs can have great impact, not so much on the product side of things but by shaping a companies work culture and environment. How they use that ability is a different matter entirely.
Is WotC better than when she took over? Fuck No. That WotC did well compared to Hasbro has fuck all to do with anything.
How is WotC NOW compared to WotC BEFORE Cynthia Williams. Judging by secondary market prices, distributors reduced orders, loss of talent, and use of AI, and reduced profit margins due to universes beyond licensing fees, I’d say they are objectively way the fuck worse off.
Hell yeah Behind the Bastards rules!
But you know who WON'T durdly for 10 minutes during their turn?
I thought the higher level leadership at places didn't matter until the CEO at my old job who was originally an IT guy retired and was replaced with a new CEO with a sales background. Went from the best job I ever had to arguably the worst almost immediately. The whole vibe at every level of leadership changed, supervisors started pressuring us to break the law to meet our sales goals, all of our systems stopped working because they laid off the people who maintained them, impossible goals were implemented from top to bottom, customer complaints about being scammed by sales shot through the roof, etc. It depends on who the replacement is, but this can make a very big difference.
For the record I also think CEOs don't make companies better per se, but I firmly believe they can make them worse.
Love having my favorite podcast namedropped on a seemingly unrelated RUclips video. Behind the Bastards is an excellent podcast!
Let's hope things somehow get better but not very likely
I like your idea for a reserved list re imagining, a lot of players view any kind of mention of a reserve list as an instant no, but some kind of reserve list is actually pretty healthy. Maybe something like when a card first gets printed, the foil version is what gets reserved, so going forward, that combination of art and border will never get a foil version again. In my mind, that's an ideal version of the reserve list
no. it is not healthy to artificially inflate paper and ink to tens of dollars let alone hundreds or thousands.
collectibility should not have anything at all to do with monetary value or artificial scarcity.
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Collectability very much has everything to do with scarcity and monetary vale. Like, what are you smoking? Things become collectable and thus valuable because they are rare, often because people did not keep them because no one though they'd be wanted. A standard edition of Monopoly will never be collectible because anyone with $20 (or whatever MSRP is) has been able to get one anywhere for 70 years. Baseball cards from the 1950s? Not rare at the time--they were everywhere. But no one saved them and they became rare. Baseball cards of the 1990s? Not rare then, not rare now because they were kept.
What you are complaining about is that these are also game pieces, not just collectibles. That's a different argument. But arguing that things can be collectible when they're commonplace and cheap is just not how anything that's been prized as a collectible has ever worked.
I say this everytime I see these types of videos from you. Thank you, thank you for discussing topic with a sensible and level-headed argument
#pleasantkenobi4president
I know you’ve said it before but it is still a 10/10 idea to do reserved list for art.
reserve list for art is the best idea in magic
Prof as CEO with Kenobi as the Vice CEO ;p
Hahahah prof would be hugely incompetent. He basically just kisses ass to whoever writes his cheque's. Oh wait the shareholders write the cheque's so I guess we will see more of the same.
I was not expecting one of my favorite podcasts, Behind the Bastards, getting name checked here. Awesome.
My vote isn't for #PleasantKenobiforCEO it's for Vince, also known (in our dreams at least!) as #PresidentKenobi on the Internet.
Also I'm glad you point out the truthiness of this - how the CEO's get the credit for work other people do. The only "bigger" organization I can think of where the owners and upper management are actually involved are large RUclips channels like Linus Tech Tips (whether you agree with their practices etc or not). And that's still small on the corporate scale considering LMG has around 100 employees. For frame of reference, my first actual job was at a McDonald's and we had upwards of 150 staff, and the store manager was known to occasionally cover the till, flip burgers, and do whatever else needed to be done right beside the other staff if he was on shift. He didn't just park himself in the office and let other staff do everything, even though most times there were enough people on shift.
I really hope they get someone who's actually familiar with the major properties (Magic, D&D, etc) as president instead of someone who just knows how to run a business, because CEOs of THAT nature are a dime a dozen, but CEOs that actually understand how the general public see the business and what they offer are much rarer - I might even suggest Mythic Rare. So giving us someone like Forsythe I think would be much better for the company than some random "all I know is business" outsider.
When I first saw the news I didn't think anything of it, then I saw this video and realized it MIGHT mean change with Wizards and hopefully reason for me to stop my boycott of my one of my favourite passtimes, but it turns out no lesson has been learned, nothing happened, it's going to be really tough to not buy Bloomburrow cards if they print new rats
What's the reason for the Boycott?
@@PleasantKenobi Are you really even asking that?
The CEO doesn't matter usually, but it IS a good indicator of the direction the company is taking under their umbrella. Cynthia Williams had a big digital gaming and distribution background, and WotC had a period of targeting digital markets and gaming under her reign. Now that MTGA is established (and probably no longer in a growth period), digital distribution has its established pipeline as you noted, BG3 is out, and OneDND has basically flopped; the company is probably steering in a new direction. The background and history of the next CEO will likewise be a big indicator of where they want to take the company going forward.
A lot of the direction for Magic specifically is definitely a continuation of Chris Cocks' decisions though (FIRE, booster fun, Universe Beyond all products under his run as CEO for better or worse), and I can only pray that losing Hasbro shareholders over 3 billion dollars on the EOne disaster is enough to have the board of directors on his ass too.
Pleasant kenobi for ceo
Pleasant Kenobi for CEO, I'd love to see the Art Reserve list. Otherwise, you're right. This isn't big news for most of us.
Time to update those Resumes folks!
CEOs are the definition of taking credit for everything that goes well for the company and dispersing blame for everything that goes wrong.
I can’t wait to see the eventual full on Comrade Kenobi! Until then, keep fighting the good fight
pleasant kenobi for ceo tbh
pretty perfect plan you've outlined
This is one of the main drawbacks of a private business or company becoming a publicly-traded business/company. The focus is no longer on the product or player/consumer. The focus is appeasing the investors. It's a never-ending cycle of growth and profits.
President Kenobi for CEO
thanks for the content to watch while i sleeve my new deck :D
I'm sold. PK not just for CEO, but for CEO of the crumbling Western world.
I love the idea of you being a CEO #PLEASANTKENOBIforCEO
"who cares" fair enough, like my friend said, her boss is the actual issue.
I missed half of this video due to youtube ads.
Anyway. Sad. Yes, so very sad.
My husband has a high school friend who is a CEO and that CEO absolutely thinks that he is the be all and end all of the company and it wouldn't survive without him at the helm. I do think the quality of the product produced by us workers saves their butt most of the time. But CEOs think very highly of what they do.
broadly speaking, the executive management are in charge of the long term development of their companies. they are enacting policies that affect production in generally the five year window. Cynthia was definitely someone who made decisions that led to the crazy amount of MTG releases in the last few years
a CEO works for the shareholders, he administrate the company to ensure the profit percentage the shareholders want/need. So he is needed to read the markets and trends to ensure the company grows. He is the one who aproves new projects (like Baldur's Gate 3) measuring how much will they win and in what span of time, but they are not about creating or proposing stuff. The President does propose new stuff he develops with his team (he looks for oportunities inside their company structure and product) and supervise that the money they get from the company for new projects gets used in the time and form proposed when they got their approval..... The problem here is that Hasbro and WotC make products with different models, but Hasbro keeps trying to make Wizards works like other "games" in the volume oriented form, not in the quality one
This is a really cool Shirt. Could you Tell me where I can get one like this?
I used to think the reserved list should be abolished, but after watching everything be printed into the ground the last few years... Nice to know some cards are still collectible.
The CEO is just the corporate fall person. If something gets too bad you blame them.
100%. This adoration of CEOs is ridiculous. Anyone who's ever worked in a a big company knows how little CEOs do that affect the product.
you have my sword of wealth and power!
and you have my duals!
and my mox!
Don't underestimate CEO's. If they put their mind to it, they can do a lot of damage.
I think that CEOs only really have input when you talk about companies with
Magic Players: "Evil has been vanquished! We have been freed!"
Hasbro: "Oh, I wouldn't say “freed.” More like “under new management.”"
They need to severely change the release schedule. Could care less WHAT is coming out, I care how much is coming out at a time. We need to space major releases out 2-3 months apart. Multiple products a month is fine but it shouldn’t be two major sets in the same month.
If i were her i would have simply created infinite growth every quarter forever. skill issue honsetly
Just like years ago was the "free the wizards" movement, that did nothing, so Wotc is just a puppet for Hasbro
I think the main reason we don't see people like Maro getting the job, is because they simply don't want it. He said himself, that he was offered the job, but rejected, bc his dream is to design Magic cards. And I think, thats true for all the cool designers at Wizards.
Pleasantkenobiforceo! Hashbrowns
A legacy pro tour without a reserve list would be so hype
uh, do you know what the reserve list is?
@@PandaXs1A pointless list that was created so neckbeards could gatekeep the playerbase for years?
Hey Vince, did they ever reprint fetch lands? Because I'm still out here wearing the t-shirt and don't want to look a fool
They did. And they are coming again in MH3. They are no longer the barrier to entry for older formats.
That honour instead lands on the playable from Horizons. But I don't want to do a shirt that says "Reprint Grief You Cowards". 🤣
Pleasant Kenobi for CEO!
It's probably possible that it gets worse but not easy to accomplish making things any worse. So hopefully this is good news.
#PleasantKenobiforCEO!
It doesn't matter what sort of company WotC says it is, because it is owned by Hasbro and Hasbro has long since stopped being a game/toy company and become a Line Go Up company. It is in the business of making Line Go Up, and anything it does in the interim is just a matter of momentary strategy
I didn't even know who she was before this.
The Hudsucker Proxy...
WOTC needs to change the focus from the shareholders to their clients. Despite being something pretty obvious, it is a trap waaaay too many companies fall into. Please the shareholders and having a long, healthy plan for the organization are contradictory goals, if management is poor.
I do think it has something to do with the upcoming quarterly reports, so I think we will see some bad numbers coming soon
On the other hand, who was responsible for the 1k proxy boosters for the 30th anniversary?
The CEO of Hasbro? I genuinely don't know.
with those 3 points, youve got my vote!
If anyone internal is getting promoted i would bet money on Mike "i am huge piece of shit" Mearls, but theyll just go with another outsider MBA type 999/1000
I'd still love to be like Steve Jobs was; put in minimum effort and value and rake in the money while people regard me as a genius which I'm very much not
He also smelt like shit.
Pleasant Kenobi for CEO!!
Pleasant Kenobi for President! 🎉
#PLEASENTKENOBIFORCEO !!! Those three points are absolutely spot on! Never cared for the UN sets, but was not only unnecessary to make them black bordered, but also confusing. WH40K was such a banger, and they missed a big chance to milk the right cow there, with a universe that for flavour and aesthetic has proven to be one of the best for a crossover with MtG. And the reserve list: why can´t it be just about the art? I respect that collectors-investor want to maintain the value of those old prints, but why that has to come to the cost of gatekeeping cards as whole? MtG is now over 30 years old, always changing, just like the world around. WotC please, listen to the people, to your player base.
Y'know i think i read somewhere that Chris C0cx takes part in a dnd campaign... Wether or not it has to do with a genuine interest in the game, or for "relatability" to the consumer of the fine product is debatable- but I'm sure we can imagine how his play session and passion looks. I mention this because kenobi said that even if it is an entusiast and player of WotC product, it may be a surface level public image (check me out im a cool gamer just like you! and love that MtG!©) that they want to be perceived as.
Regardless. I think that there will be some possible changes with this news, but it wont be as earth-shattering or immediate as we'd want. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.
even if we believe the fallacy that the ceo is responsible for all the decisions wouldn't that just mean the ceo of hasbro is responsible for all the decisions not the wotc ceo
CEOs who like to take the credit should also take the blame... Funny how they never do.
BREAKING NEWS: Subsidiary CEO aka middle manager replaced! Financial projections unchanged. Experts say expect another 10% of current employees to be laid off before Thanksgiving, at least they'll get a turkey as severance pay.
Changing CEOs won't make a difference. However...if a company knew their image was shit and wanted to try and turn that around, changing CEOs would be the 1st step as part of the flashiest way to do that.
One of many problems have left. We are at a point that the entire leadership needs to be replaced into hasbro. The failings of hasbro have affected WoTC by changing the way to earn money and the metrics they wanted which has become hostile to most of the customers. I would say I am done buying until they fix shit....BUT I haven't purchased shit for a while and don't need see anything changing unless they crash and burn.
I live in America, so I'm used to my vote not mattering... But, Pleasant Kenobi for CEO!
why have 1 invisible johnson when u can have 2 !
You have my complete support to be the new CEO, just before you do take the huge bonus and run, please name me as your successor so I can follow in your illustrious footsteps. I too would like to retire someday and as an American under the age of 40, the prospects of that are dreadfully slim.
I hope Chat GPT gets the job.
Looking at Universes Beyond, I think they’d be better if it was just Commander decks or Secret Lairs, and not entire sets. In my opinion, anyway.
#pleasantkenobiforceo
Memes aside, I agree with the bleak outlook - CEOs are overpaid and overhyped. Stephanie Sterling has put me on the path of calling for the removal of the executive class.
They're all earning so much money that they can retire without a bonus, give half of their yearly salary to charity, and live comfortably (if not in minor luxury) for decades and still be millionaires at the end of it.
Thats fucked.
They could replace that position with Ai too
Can you milk a goose? Asking for a friend.
don't even try it, bub
Got excited that this was about Chris Cox. Unfortunately, he gets to be CEO for another day.
I would be shocked if they hired someone who deeply cares about Magic. It’ll probably be an outsider who has some experience in an area Hasbro wants to pursue.
I see PleasantKenobi has good taste in podcasts.
#PleasantKenobiforCEO
Not WoTC specifically, I mean all of them.
Behind the Bastards shout out! Awesome.
BEHIND THE BASTARDS SHOUT OUT LETS GOOOOOO