it's almost a too little too late situation.. I don't trust Intel anymore if they weren't even willing to accept their hardware was faulty for quite a long time, then when they did, they refuse to recall anything. That sends a terrible message to consumers and to colocation centers alike.. I shouldn't need an insurance policy on my CPU because the manufacturer won't recognize their own warranty
"They can resynthesize things that already exist but they can't make it themselves" this is one of the best, simplest ways i've heard to describe this...stuff that's getting thrown around. I'm glad LLMs can't replace Reece and that he continues to give us precious deals.
To a certain extent, people do the same thing. Most inventions are a spin on an existing thing. Iirc there are 6 simple mechanical tools that make up every single machine no matter how complex. Transistors were invented because valves were unreliable. They are similar to relays. Valves and transistors have analogues in the mechanical world - indeed, the first recognised programmable machine was a mechanical loom. So... IF (big if) AI is essentially just iterating on what already exists, it is actually pretty close to the way humans work - only theoretically much faster. I'm not exactly convinced it is actually intelligent though, and I lean towards the "thousand monkeys, thousand typewriters and eventually you'll get Shakespeare" way of thinking about it. In which case, AI will be much more like ore processing where you throw out mountains of waste for one small nugget, then it will be like a convention of Einsteins bouncing ideas around. We do find value in mining though, so it's hard to dismiss it entirely.
That's simply not true though? The models don't just remember everything, they figure out a generalized way of predicting it. They can absolutely use the rules they have figured out to apply it to entirely new things.
I think AI could be a cool addition to game with something like an NPC. Imagine being able to use a microphone in a single player game and interact with them in a realistic way instead of only things that are scripted.
Dynamic quest routes are awesome. The devs can set the beats of the quest and some parameters then the rest is dynamic. The quest givers and NPCs will act more like haunted house/attraction actors who react to you and go off script without straying too far off.
The Zen 5 rough launch feels like somebody tried to rush it out to distance away from the Arrow Lake launch. It's almost they know they lost this year.
It seems that AMD wanted to take advantage of Intel's problems so much that they released their processors prematurely and now they are doing what they would do in the final phase before the premiere.
No they aren’t with pbo you already have 13 percent improvement and over 7700 9700x does not come with any good improvement in efficiency or raw performance.
I’ve tested 24H2 on the 5800X, 5600X, 5800x3d, and 7800x3d. The X3D chips had higher uplift than the others, but there was increased fps on all the Ryzen CPU’s (from 6 to 11%). Still more Ryzen CPU’s to test (3600x, 3900x). GPU’s utilized were 7900XTX, 4090, 3080, 6700xt
@@jabronilifestyle No, it wasn't a hardware fault and it was a second-hand card so I didn't bother asking. I was able to go into system recovery mode, go back to a previous set of drivers and just avoided updating my graphics card driver until several more recent drivers came out.
Since I've started learning programming, and I plan on getting a degree in Computer Science next year, the AI-halucinated Doom is just a _tad_ worrying.
While the power of the iGPU in "halo" APUs is certainly appreciated (assuming it is true), that isn't the most exciting thing about them. Bringing 256-bit memory bandwidth to consumer-grade mobile is the exciting, forward-looking feature that makes Strix Halo really stand out. *That* is the key innovation. Memory bandwidth has been a huge bottleneck for iGPUs from the very beginning and, especially given that most laptops already have soldered-in RAM that could (in theory) be routed like dGPU RAM, the move to 256-bit busses has been a long time coming. A frustratingly long time, really. If Intel isn't matching that, then they simply do not get it.
I do understand the guy's surprise/reaction to prices. International shopping might get really chaotic really fast. The Lenovo Legion Go is the example that comes to mind, internationally you can get it at 499~699usd; then to get it in Brazil you need to spend 6000~8000brl. You know, classic free market BS.
They sell mainframes where you can pay to unlock extra processing capacity. At least AMD is not charging extra to unlock the processing power that is (hopefully) available in the 9000 series through BIOS updates. Maybe, we will work through everything that AMD should have worked out prior to launch a month or two after launch. Kind of like fine wine, but corked.
It gives a noticeable boost. This boost is better than the difference between the 7600 and 7600x when the x came out first... Not saying it's worth the extra power, but usually amd cpus never reach their tdp under normal gaming circumstances anyways.
I can see the possibility now. AI creates its own game and have a scenario like this: Gamer 1: Man, I can't get past this level. So many ridiculously hard monsters. Gamer 2: What are you talking about? I spawned in to have the exit right in front of me.
Pretty excited for ARL. I skipped 13th, 14th, and Zen 4. If it's delivers, then I'll get one, else I'll snag 9900X or just wait for 9900X3D assuming it also delivers 🤣
Why are tech tubers thanking AMD for fixes and patches that should have been done already. Tech companies have gotten away with launching unfinished products for so long that we now thank them for doing their testing for them. And where the hell are the new am5 motherboards? By the time they arrive we will have zen 6.
I feel sorry for tech reviewers re: zen5 launch ... they're going to need to retest everything after all these updates and patches because it looks like the performance uplifts are massive. AMD should have spent another couple months fine tuning the architecture.
Ma, we can download more CPU performance in 2024... (I have a 7940HS, I recorded a 3-5% performance increase with 24H2 in some games like Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassin's Creed Syndicate...)
Good on them for making an update to address Ryzen's issues on Windows 11. Too bad I really don't want 11, but I guess it's going to be forced upon me one way or another. One can only hope they'll do it for win10.
Strix Halo vs Arrow Lake Halo? All come down to price vs graphics/gaming performance for cheaper laptop. RTX 4060 mobile class performance is more than enough to shake market of gaming laptop with dedicated GPU. 6 core vs 16 core doesn't matter at all. I expect that Arrow Lake Halo will win in price war.
Let us pray that the AMD update to 105 from 65 watt doesnt lead to some weird Early AMD degradation, something that eventually happened to intel by pushing intel cores to far to often and over to many generations. So lets hope its not a knee jerk reaction to low sales and over compensate.
Listen to this on my way to work every morning. Thank you guys for the daily content. I'm sure it's not always easy so just wanted to show some appreciation!
lol, I remember playing Doom at a "sliky smooth" 12 fps back in the day. Now, through modern advancements, we've replaced code so well optimized that it could run on my 386... with code that runs in a datacenter with I'm guessing 40kw power budget to achieve comparable results. Sometimes it feels like we're on the wrong timeline.
I have that dual monitor arm, its pretty rad. I have a 34Ultra Wide and 27in and it works great. Well I have a their other single to because I have a 3rd 27inch so yeah.. I have a problem. My 3080TI runs at 140W at idle :D
AMD doing all this patching and knee jerk reacting to the bad press could of been avoided if they gave reviewers enough time to spend with ryzen 9000 to give amd feed back on their findings and see how zen 5 is performing in the "wild" patch and delay as needed, then do a blog post on the official release day.
the best part of DOOM is the 30 years of creativity and modding behind it. If you trained AI on every single map and mod every time... You'd be wasting HUGE amounts of data for no real reason or benefit i hate ai
All this AI did was make a video of it playing doom with out running Doom, based on videos of people playing doom. This is something anyone can do in their imagination. You can make this AI make it's own version of Star Wars if you fed the AI every movie and TV series from Star Wars, and mix in some Star Trek and see what it makes.
Damn, we waited so long for Zen 5 and unfortunately it doesn't seem like a reasonable upgrade from last gen. Though else would find it good so not much of a problem there. Personally, i hope intel doesn't make a mess with lunar and arrow lake, cuz i don't want one CPU vendor in the market
My a.i. is revolutionary watch as it makes a totally unique comment from scraping millions of comments on videos. A.I. "Google; we mad is copy machine for gme." All it took was evaporating two lakes worth of water to make that comment, simply amazing!
I am so excited for laptops like the Zephyrus G14/G16 and Dell XPS 14/16 to be getting these new Strix/Arrow Halo chips so that the price can go way down while providing the same performance and even better thermals
I know this is off-topic, but @ 5:53 what I think of is how AI-to-Human relationship is basically the same as relationship between humans and the world/our entire reality. Humans cannot create anything outright. We can only rearrange, order, catalyze, combine, etc. components in this world to fabricate something new but it's not outright newness from nothing. Humans perceive the world and study it and then try to mimic nature in a different way (like studying birds to develop mechanical aerospace components). I believe this to be evidence for God. I feel like the way we look at AI is similar to how God looks at us. Only God is truly a creator of things.
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it's almost a too little too late situation.. I don't trust Intel anymore if they weren't even willing to accept their hardware was faulty for quite a long time, then when they did, they refuse to recall anything. That sends a terrible message to consumers and to colocation centers alike.. I shouldn't need an insurance policy on my CPU because the manufacturer won't recognize their own warranty
Don't worry guys, I'm downloading a better processor.
You jest but that is how Chinese companies are accessing Nvidia AI GPUs. By remote accessing server farms in Australia to circumvent the embargo
@@TheHipClipthey’re accessing nvidia ai gpus with a windows update?
Intel patented that a decade of so ago.
Not sure if they ever did anything with it.
I got the cracked version
I downloaded more ram, it fantastic 😍
"They can resynthesize things that already exist but they can't make it themselves" this is one of the best, simplest ways i've heard to describe this...stuff that's getting thrown around. I'm glad LLMs can't replace Reece and that he continues to give us precious deals.
To a certain extent, people do the same thing. Most inventions are a spin on an existing thing.
Iirc there are 6 simple mechanical tools that make up every single machine no matter how complex.
Transistors were invented because valves were unreliable. They are similar to relays.
Valves and transistors have analogues in the mechanical world - indeed, the first recognised programmable machine was a mechanical loom.
So... IF (big if) AI is essentially just iterating on what already exists, it is actually pretty close to the way humans work - only theoretically much faster.
I'm not exactly convinced it is actually intelligent though, and I lean towards the "thousand monkeys, thousand typewriters and eventually you'll get Shakespeare" way of thinking about it.
In which case, AI will be much more like ore processing where you throw out mountains of waste for one small nugget, then it will be like a convention of Einsteins bouncing ideas around.
We do find value in mining though, so it's hard to dismiss it entirely.
That's simply not true though? The models don't just remember everything, they figure out a generalized way of predicting it. They can absolutely use the rules they have figured out to apply it to entirely new things.
I think AI could be a cool addition to game with something like an NPC. Imagine being able to use a microphone in a single player game and interact with them in a realistic way instead of only things that are scripted.
Would be great for simulation games if done well. Something like The Sims or Paralives could become more interactive
speak simlish
Dynamic quest routes are awesome. The devs can set the beats of the quest and some parameters then the rest is dynamic. The quest givers and NPCs will act more like haunted house/attraction actors who react to you and go off script without straying too far off.
NPC's have had AI for decades.
That is actually a really good idea. Don't get attached.
Should've called it the HALO Lake
Ngl I'd probably trust an AI to develop, maintain, and balance Overwatch more than the current team
No, it wouldn't. That's how SBMM is currently at right now in a lot of video games, which is too intense matches with identical skills etc.
Fresh out of surgery and in Post-op recovery with a UFD video waiting? Best day wver
The Zen 5 rough launch feels like somebody tried to rush it out to distance away from the Arrow Lake launch. It's almost they know they lost this year.
It seems that AMD wanted to take advantage of Intel's problems so much that they released their processors prematurely and now they are doing what they would do in the final phase before the premiere.
AMD released Zen 5 for the 5th time at this point. I guess thats what the 5 stands for
0.5 percent improvement
@@NoNo-p8l On this video alone it explains how it has a 13% better performance...
Don't be confused, that was Intel.
@@The_Penguin_City I meant it got so many firmware/OS updates it is basically a different CPU release at this point.
No they aren’t with pbo you already have 13 percent improvement and over 7700 9700x does not come with any good improvement in efficiency or raw performance.
DOOM is forever, and will outlast our humble civilization
Once I grow up I will make sure to do something that will allow it to do so.
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To be fair Doom has always felt like a hallucination...
1:00 regarding this story, "number goes down, performance goes up"
That Logitech mic in Reese's bonus deals is an incredible mic and happens to be my daily driver. 10/10 would recommend
I’ve tested 24H2 on the 5800X, 5600X, 5800x3d, and 7800x3d. The X3D chips had higher uplift than the others, but there was increased fps on all the Ryzen CPU’s (from 6 to 11%). Still more Ryzen CPU’s to test (3600x, 3900x). GPU’s utilized were 7900XTX, 4090, 3080, 6700xt
as much as I love the extra deals, sadly they are almost only for US residents. Canucks need savings too!
AMD has always had driver issues. I'll never forget when updating my RX 580 driver bricked my computer.
@@jabronilifestyle No, it wasn't a hardware fault and it was a second-hand card so I didn't bother asking. I was able to go into system recovery mode, go back to a previous set of drivers and just avoided updating my graphics card driver until several more recent drivers came out.
Since I've started learning programming, and I plan on getting a degree in Computer Science next year, the AI-halucinated Doom is just a _tad_ worrying.
Sitting here in a house with no power since Tuesday after being hit by a tornado....Reese i feel your pain
While the power of the iGPU in "halo" APUs is certainly appreciated (assuming it is true), that isn't the most exciting thing about them. Bringing 256-bit memory bandwidth to consumer-grade mobile is the exciting, forward-looking feature that makes Strix Halo really stand out. *That* is the key innovation. Memory bandwidth has been a huge bottleneck for iGPUs from the very beginning and, especially given that most laptops already have soldered-in RAM that could (in theory) be routed like dGPU RAM, the move to 256-bit busses has been a long time coming. A frustratingly long time, really. If Intel isn't matching that, then they simply do not get it.
I do understand the guy's surprise/reaction to prices. International shopping might get really chaotic really fast.
The Lenovo Legion Go is the example that comes to mind, internationally you can get it at 499~699usd; then to get it in Brazil you need to spend 6000~8000brl.
You know, classic free market BS.
They sell mainframes where you can pay to unlock extra processing capacity. At least AMD is not charging extra to unlock the processing power that is (hopefully) available in the 9000 series through BIOS updates. Maybe, we will work through everything that AMD should have worked out prior to launch a month or two after launch. Kind of like fine wine, but corked.
5:15 You're confused about the difference between game developers ... and the bean counters who pay them. 😏
Is 7900 xt good with 7700x
Yes.
Alr
Sound like you’ll need a new pc.
as someone with the 7700x, yes!
Yes sir! Great 4k gaming experience or even high frame rates on 1440p 240hz
No way its almost like releasing an X series chip at a non X TDP will not give any performance boosts
It gives a noticeable boost. This boost is better than the difference between the 7600 and 7600x when the x came out first...
Not saying it's worth the extra power, but usually amd cpus never reach their tdp under normal gaming circumstances anyways.
I can see the possibility now. AI creates its own game and have a scenario like this:
Gamer 1: Man, I can't get past this level. So many ridiculously hard monsters.
Gamer 2: What are you talking about? I spawned in to have the exit right in front of me.
Great video . What are your thoughts on pc handheld as a console?
Pretty excited for ARL. I skipped 13th, 14th, and Zen 4. If it's delivers, then I'll get one, else I'll snag 9900X or just wait for 9900X3D assuming it also delivers 🤣
Only issue with Arrow Lake Halo would be the drivers. The Arc drivers are still all over the place.
The links in description are confusing. They're unlabelled and are link shortener links. I don't know what I'm pressing
Why are tech tubers thanking AMD for fixes and patches that should have been done already. Tech companies have gotten away with launching unfinished products for so long that we now thank them for doing their testing for them. And where the hell are the new am5 motherboards? By the time they arrive we will have zen 6.
I feel sorry for tech reviewers re: zen5 launch ... they're going to need to retest everything after all these updates and patches because it looks like the performance uplifts are massive. AMD should have spent another couple months fine tuning the architecture.
Do Intel CPUs come with a life expectancy sensor? 1 hour, maybe 2 hours before it’s patched down to 1Ghz “boost” 😂
AI hallucinated doom at 20fps vs actual game that can run at like 5000fps if not more on an actual gpu. People sure love downgrades
proof of concept... why cant you understand
Stop. This is clearly a demonstration of future capability. Its quite obviously not meant as an actual game lol.
You are exactly right about data used for AI, it is just automated recycling with RNG.
I'd like to see what doom-gpt version X would look like after feeding its own output back in as input
Brb mom, downloading some tdp
The mic is really really nice I picked one up used a year ago it was aasive improvement to my sm58 that I was using for voice chat
Totally agree with you Bret about the AI nonsense. Also, AI does not even exist yet, they are LMs.
Handhelds and standalone pcvr headsets are going to be the BEST when these (expensive) chips come out
Ma, we can download more CPU performance in 2024...
(I have a 7940HS, I recorded a 3-5% performance increase with 24H2 in some games like Starfield, Cyberpunk 2077, Assassin's Creed Syndicate...)
Intel putting AMD on notice……..🤔…….I don’t think so Tim. Intel has officially become the AMD of the 1990’s…………and they are very deserving.
Good on them for making an update to address Ryzen's issues on Windows 11. Too bad I really don't want 11, but I guess it's going to be forced upon me one way or another. One can only hope they'll do it for win10.
Doesn't help that my computer is ten years old either.
THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FROM INTEL, not them screwing over customers with rejected RMAs and selling defective products! Keep this killer competition baby
LOVED the extra deals!!! Thanks bro...
Strix Halo vs Arrow Lake Halo? All come down to price vs graphics/gaming performance for cheaper laptop. RTX 4060 mobile class performance is more than enough to shake market of gaming laptop with dedicated GPU. 6 core vs 16 core doesn't matter at all. I expect that Arrow Lake Halo will win in price war.
Nothing better than 5pm breakfast and some HOT news, any hotter andnmy plate will melt.
Let us pray that the AMD update to 105 from 65 watt doesnt lead to some weird Early AMD degradation, something that eventually happened to intel by pushing intel cores to far to often and over to many generations. So lets hope its not a knee jerk reaction to low sales and over compensate.
So with current AI we do not have to worry about SkyNet yet?
My Windows 11 pro just updated yesterday automatically 😃
Wait, you're saying that, thanks to AI, a modern supercomputer can now play Doom at 1/3 the frame rate of an 80386? Cool.
This info release from Intel was probably to try to get some good publicity out there to recover from their recent mishap with their cpus.
Learning from the intel situation i wouldve not bothered with the increased wattage
Ai is just hallucinating doom. My average dream. Step it up Nvidia.
Listen to this on my way to work every morning. Thank you guys for the daily content. I'm sure it's not always easy so just wanted to show some appreciation!
lol, I remember playing Doom at a "sliky smooth" 12 fps back in the day. Now, through modern advancements, we've replaced code so well optimized that it could run on my 386... with code that runs in a datacenter with I'm guessing 40kw power budget to achieve comparable results. Sometimes it feels like we're on the wrong timeline.
What will happen if they train AI with all the games they get their hands on? AI as game developer?
6:20 great so the cpu will run hotter and have lower o.c. headroom.... they better have a kf series with decent stock.
I have that dual monitor arm, its pretty rad. I have a 34Ultra Wide and 27in and it works great. Well I have a their other single to because I have a 3rd 27inch so yeah.. I have a problem. My 3080TI runs at 140W at idle :D
What are "Halo" products? When I search for an answer, all I see are references to Master Chief.
Problem with bios updates unless windows update or like in Linux you can use firmware updater most will never update this never see the change
With that update I get around 20% more fps in hogwarts legacy and witcher 3 which are know to be cpu intensive games
C'MON UFD TECH **cough cough* BRETT!!! Get Reece his Logitech G Yeti Mic setup.....With white arm of course ;)
Morning Brett, have a great day. Thank you for all you do
AMD doing all this patching and knee jerk reacting to the bad press could of been avoided if they gave reviewers enough time to spend with ryzen 9000 to give amd feed back on their findings and see how zen 5 is performing in the "wild" patch and delay as needed, then do a blog post on the official release day.
Who would have thought that the time will come where we all can just download better CPU's
Ok so now we've got an Intel core 4070
don't have to wait for 24H2? The correct one is 'Don't need to update to 24H2'
Bonus deals are a W
It is not resynthesized, it's regurgitated
the best part of DOOM is the 30 years of creativity and modding behind it. If you trained AI on every single map and mod every time... You'd be wasting HUGE amounts of data for no real reason or benefit
i hate ai
Florida Brett is wildin’.
We got A.I playing Doom be GTA 6. Damn😂
ufd got me tweaked out
When will desktop apu will come
So basically, they went from a game that can be played on a calculator (these days) to needing to use a super computer... that's backwards.
AI DOOM does look cool!
All this AI did was make a video of it playing doom with out running Doom, based on videos of people playing doom. This is something anyone can do in their imagination. You can make this AI make it's own version of Star Wars if you fed the AI every movie and TV series from Star Wars, and mix in some Star Trek and see what it makes.
What happens when AI is trained on AI generated material?
the windows update also gives a performance boost to zen4 so even if your not on zen5 you should maybe look into getting the optional update
*you're...
Damn, we waited so long for Zen 5 and unfortunately it doesn't seem like a reasonable upgrade from last gen. Though else would find it good so not much of a problem there. Personally, i hope intel doesn't make a mess with lunar and arrow lake, cuz i don't want one CPU vendor in the market
Lunar lale halo 😇
Finally Intel 4070
Intel has been making GPU for decades. How can they suck so bad ?
What does your shirt say? I can't read it, it's all encrypted
Intel 4080 ?
Beatty Canyon
Google: we made a copy machine for game
You made this, I made this
My a.i. is revolutionary watch as it makes a totally unique comment from scraping millions of comments on videos. A.I. "Google; we mad is copy machine for gme." All it took was evaporating two lakes worth of water to make that comment, simply amazing!
Tell me how exactly did you learn to speak?
The only products i care about intel is those N100 chips
So emulators could be a thing of the past is what we're saying? 😂
Iam gonna download a Zen5 mod for my zen4 😅
I'm gonna run doom on my leg.
I wonder if soon, AI can shit for me every morning, because I'm bored with that repetitive task.
I am so excited for laptops like the Zephyrus G14/G16 and Dell XPS 14/16 to be getting these new Strix/Arrow Halo chips so that the price can go way down while providing the same performance and even better thermals
Didn't that AI doom just... generate a copy of a video of someone playing doom?
I know this is off-topic, but @ 5:53 what I think of is how AI-to-Human relationship is basically the same as relationship between humans and the world/our entire reality. Humans cannot create anything outright. We can only rearrange, order, catalyze, combine, etc. components in this world to fabricate something new but it's not outright newness from nothing. Humans perceive the world and study it and then try to mimic nature in a different way (like studying birds to develop mechanical aerospace components). I believe this to be evidence for God. I feel like the way we look at AI is similar to how God looks at us. Only God is truly a creator of things.
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The only halo product I'm not interested in is the Amazon show
Buy Reece the Yeti Studio Mic you know you want to.