That was brutal! It took me three tries to beat Venom Goblin, and then just barely. As much as I enjoy watching you navigate these scenarios with "relative ease", it is encouraging to know that I am not alone in getting pummelled. Still enjoyable to watch. Hopefully we will get a chance to see you give it another go.
@Jonathan Weeks Maybe my 3rd time will be a charm. I played another after this one with the same decks, same end result, but I went into the second version a little better ... but still not good enough. Currently playing through with another person. I've improved my Ghost-Spider deck, and Troy has a better Miles deck built. First 3 went really smooth. We'll see how the next 2 go. :)
@Andrew Cole Thanks! I personally don't listen to any podcasts, but have heard good things about Marvel Champions Monthly. Hope that helps, and happy gaming! :)
Great gameplay, and yes venom goblin gave us lots of trouble too. Took us about 4 or 5 attempts to actually win, and that’s only standard! One ruling clarification I wanted to point out though. For the attachment “We Are One,” you must pay one of each “printed” resource, so you wouldn’t have been able to use web shooters to discard the attachment. That card sucked a lot for us too, and the requirement of one of each printed resources made it even worse. Love all your videos, looking forward to seeing you win this scenario some time in the future.
GGs! I think at 14:48 when you killed the minion the last Public Outcry counter should have been removed, maybe woulda given you another turn or 2 but not 100% sure. There is so much to keep track of especially if u play solo 2 handed, my brother an I always forget to do stuff like adding threat to schemes at beginning of the villain phase >.< often we will remember while its attacking
Great video as always! Unfortunately I did not much enjoy this scenario. Got major Ronan vibes from it. Played 2 player with my partner, he had the extra glider upgrade encounter card when we took him to level 2, so had 6 encounter cards to start snd with all the surges and extra activations he ended up activating 8 times in a single phase. It was just way too much.
@Pjflan2 My second attempt didn't get much better ... I just went into the 2nd version a bit better, but like you equipment got to be too much to deal with. Seems to need a very specific deck build to deal with and/or some luck in encounter card draws. But I only have 2 plays, and I'll be the first to say both my Miles and Gwen decks could have been better constructed. Should get a 3rd attempt soon with another player in the next week or two depending on how our weekends turn out. :)
you probably forgot his steady ability and forgot to resolve his special every times he attack and scheme during encounter treachery phases. sometimes you can get lucky and not draw the glider card which allows the green goblin to activate twice per turn doubling the threat generation as well. and miles attack card is only 2 cost so you will need 2 attack cards discarded to remove it. that is super costly while not affording to remove it is even more devastating.
27:32 imagine if he'd drawn the glider right there. he has no way to deal with it in both hands and 4 activations + a boost attachment coming up next round without stuns on the goblin can turn the game around. RNG is the name of the game :D
Yup this pretty much went the same way my first try did. I managed to eke out a win on my second game with Miles and Gwen but since then have been unsuccessful even trying other (strong) hero combinations. Ronan vibes for sure!
@Thunder Fuji Glad your second game went well!! I should get another chance in two weeks in my attempt with Troy, my other Marvel partner. Wish us luck! :)
@Alin Bodor Thanks for watching, and you can find the updated rulebook at Fantasy Flights web site. Look under "Support" and "Rules". I know they are working on another update, but not sure when to expect it. www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/marvel-champions-the-card-game/
@Timothy Frontino Thanks for watching! For cards getting shuffled I use Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves, and then for the character identity card, main villain card, and main schemes I use FFG sleeves (basically any premium sleeve that is clear on both sides). The Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves are "blurry" on one side, so not the best for dual sided cards but I love the way they feel. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!! :)
when I face Venom Goblin I cry...then when he hits stage two I cry a lot XD everytime I face him it's like every turn I fear.Like his Glider,that big boost attachment.The one symbiote card where he grabs you and turns you into hero form and attacks you.....then shadows of the past can make him super nasty!
We got to him on expert at 3 ppl with almost all rep, didnt take symbiote suit bit still start with all pmayers with 4 enc.card each, i had iron man with 3 pieces 1st turn, 17 life, 1st atk max damae on ally, 1st enc card Tracking display (cannot defend) and then 3 more attacks, killed me first turn...lol
@eldharion There a some seriously NASTY possibilities for the villain to end the game quick depending on how the encounter cards come out. Best with other players for a good laugh at how wrong everything can go. :)
My first game against Venom Goblin was pretty similar to yours ;) I don't think you stand a chance against him with your decks, especially protection for Gwen. I used aggression for her and leadership for Miles. I think the worst one can do is to put threat on the schemes in the first stage of Venom Goblin, because threat is piling up very quickly and you have almost no chance to remove tons of threat. What I did during my second play: I never put the additional threat on the schemes, instead I took the second option. And I played it very aggressively to finish the game as fast as possible. It worked but it was hard ;) But it is the last scenario of a campaign, it should be challenging and it is. But it's doable, not like Ronan ;) Hope to see a rematch soon :)
@SubotaiGaidon I tried once more with the same deck, went into the 2nd version better off, but Surge and equipment cards ended in the same result. I feel like rushing is probably the best option. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Well, this scenario has the two most horrible encounter cards in the whole game, Webbed Up and the Advanced Glider. I hate both of them 😅 Looking forward to your next Marvel Champions Video
In my one gameplay with him in campaign mode, most of the encounter card at the beginning brought out the Osborne tech cards which surged to more attachments. By the end of the villain phase he had like 6 attachments. He is brutal lol
@@matthewguigon3339 Both can provide a negative play experience, or end in laughter after saying, "well it can't get any worse" ... flip an encounter card .. "well, I guess it can get worse." :)
Took us 4 attempts. We ended up switching Miles to aggression (to handle the glider which came out EVERY game for us) and Ghost to justice for threat management. I don’t think you can prevail using the justice / protection setup, but that’s my opinion
Wow! A rare loss. Will you be replaying it as a video? I did notice you could and should have gotten rid of Public Outcry a lot sooner in the game. That may have made a difference
I played this about a month ago, and had other games that needed some attention and moved towards those ... and now I'm expecting two new heroes early next week, so doubtful to have a rematch. I was able to get a win in my play with Troy, the other guy I play Champions with all the time. So I'm good. :)
Three tries so far to no avail. He's not as demoralizing as Ronan but it's close. Great effort, Dale. Is this the first time you have posted a loss on your channel? 😂 Btw, at 23:30 when you killed that Thrall you should have removed the last threat on Public Outry. Who's been the most fun villain in this expansion? My pick is either the S6 or Mysterio. I loved the thematics.
@GoGo Reacts Pretty nasty for sure! I've got several losses posted, they happen. I like the Sinister Six best. For me, much like the Collector scenarios, I think these are neat mechanically and the different way you need to play to address a villain with indirect damage, or the amount of boosts, or encounter cards shuffled in your deck, but not sure they will stick in my regular rotation as much as the original set and Red Skull. Time will tell. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer I finally beat him, Dale, on my 4th try, and it was barely. I'm not going to try beating him no more, haha. I appreciate the mechanics and thematics but he sucks the fun outta Marvel Champions very much like Ronan. I hope you beat him soon! :)
Did you eventually beat Venom Goblin? My friend and I have played him like 7 times and can only get to his 2nd form...those 2 extra encounter cards are the worst in stage 2.
Even the great ones lose occasionally! I know Protection is not a preferred aspect of yours but Gwen was lacking in some key cards like Defiance, Expert Defence, Armoured Vest, Unflappable, Hard to Ignore.
@Grant McEvoy Definitely some better protection cards I could have used. Focused on her getting damaged ... and the villains didn't hit that hard, until this one. :)
Can you actually get rid of the We Are One attachment with a wild resource? It specifically says printed resource, i’ve always played that wild resources don’t count, as the “printed” resource isn’t correct. I’m curious as to how others played it. Regardless, it didn’t matter, he is an brutal villain. I’m scheduled to face him with my group for the first time this week.
Them folks in Public Outcry have been at it all campaign. Settle down, heroes at work here. Not that it would have mattered but have Silk dump Advance over SotP because there are two of’ em and the scenario pitches a lot of scheme. Those UberStax trays earned their keep. Nevertheless it was a very good series. More than I would bite off with new heroes. Rematch? Or perhaps a overall reactions video?
@@DaletheCasualGamer agreed but adults? It all went pear shaped when George Stacey decided to peace out with one of his accrued sick days. Rumor has it he had opening day tix to Multiverse.
I won this scenario with Miles (Justice) and Gwen (Protection) in first attempt. Spoilers: I had in her deck different defense events (Expert Defense and Never Back Down - 1/2 stun sometimes or you may add Desperate Defence for double defense and ready to protect MIles also). I was always defending so my defense was +6 (+5) and I had SHIELD upgrade which allowed me to discard 1 card to protect 1 damage (this darts are rubbish ;)). I removed other defense cards because they depend I got dmg or not. So I took almost no damage on her. DAD is important for her to keep defense / attack events on steady. I think Moxie was not good chooise, I add Skilled Strike to have interrupt when she was attacking for 0. In my games she is using her ability in each turn thanks to this 0 event. In my opinion she must use her ability all the time. For her very good ally is this Voodoo guy which allow her to search for event. So She is atacking for 4 -> ready atacking for 2 -> sometimes one of her event i.e. +5 thw. when I had economy for that but I find them to expensive to have only them. I find enchansed reflexes is very good card for her especially with grey doublers and other resource cards: her gauntlets and Unflappable. She was my attacking character and I almost never flip to other side with her (only to shuffle ticket). And Spider-Man PP - this is op card and you may have event to bring him back from trash for 2. Peter give you +2 thw / attack and ready her! For Miles (justice) you need +1 thw card on him and he must thw as crazy. Especially with his card to flip + ready him -> unflip -> thw again. And 1/2 stun with his ability to keep Goblin stunned or thw from his event. I was focusing on thw to keep low level of threat on schemes and dmg almost only from Gwen. Main card which helped me a lot was One Way or Another - it gave Miles cards for ally and events. And you may always bring Cat on a tree ;) Removing this upgrade which is giving Goblin overkill is most important.
That was brutal! It took me three tries to beat Venom Goblin, and then just barely. As much as I enjoy watching you navigate these scenarios with "relative ease", it is encouraging to know that I am not alone in getting pummelled. Still enjoyable to watch. Hopefully we will get a chance to see you give it another go.
@Jonathan Weeks Maybe my 3rd time will be a charm. I played another after this one with the same decks, same end result, but I went into the second version a little better ... but still not good enough. Currently playing through with another person. I've improved my Ghost-Spider deck, and Troy has a better Miles deck built. First 3 went really smooth. We'll see how the next 2 go. :)
Best Marvel Champions coverage anywhere. Do you have any suggestions for really good podcasts that cover Marvel Champions?
@Andrew Cole Thanks! I personally don't listen to any podcasts, but have heard good things about Marvel Champions Monthly. Hope that helps, and happy gaming! :)
Great gameplay, and yes venom goblin gave us lots of trouble too. Took us about 4 or 5 attempts to actually win, and that’s only standard! One ruling clarification I wanted to point out though. For the attachment “We Are One,” you must pay one of each “printed” resource, so you wouldn’t have been able to use web shooters to discard the attachment. That card sucked a lot for us too, and the requirement of one of each printed resources made it even worse. Love all your videos, looking forward to seeing you win this scenario some time in the future.
@Mak Koh Thanks for watching, and the rules clarification! :)
As always keep the videos coming Dale. My wife and I finally defeated Galaxy's most wanted on expert and it was brutal 😂
You beat Ronan on expert campaign!?!?! Congrats! :)
Ronan on expert...uhhh so tough
@@DaletheCasualGamer not to mentioned with 2 players..... minimum 10 hours no less
Ouch! Anyway, great campaign and awesome gameplay! Thanks!
Yep, that left a mark. Thanks for watching!
GGs! I think at 14:48 when you killed the minion the last Public Outcry counter should have been removed, maybe woulda given you another turn or 2 but not 100% sure. There is so much to keep track of especially if u play solo 2 handed, my brother an I always forget to do stuff like adding threat to schemes at beginning of the villain phase >.< often we will remember while its attacking
@Sean Klose Thanks for watching! So much to track for sure!! :)
Great video as always!
Unfortunately I did not much enjoy this scenario. Got major Ronan vibes from it.
Played 2 player with my partner, he had the extra glider upgrade encounter card when we took him to level 2, so had 6 encounter cards to start snd with all the surges and extra activations he ended up activating 8 times in a single phase. It was just way too much.
@Pjflan2 My second attempt didn't get much better ... I just went into the 2nd version a bit better, but like you equipment got to be too much to deal with. Seems to need a very specific deck build to deal with and/or some luck in encounter card draws. But I only have 2 plays, and I'll be the first to say both my Miles and Gwen decks could have been better constructed. Should get a 3rd attempt soon with another player in the next week or two depending on how our weekends turn out. :)
Fantastic gameplay!
I usually play it true solo and i won with Miles 😁 now I’m wondering if i messed up a rule big time! 😱🤔😅
@The solitaire's Gambit Thanks for watching, and either way, having fun playing board games is always a win! :)
you probably forgot his steady ability and forgot to resolve his special every times he attack and scheme during encounter treachery phases.
sometimes you can get lucky and not draw the glider card which allows the green goblin to activate twice per turn doubling the threat generation as well. and miles attack card is only 2 cost so you will need 2 attack cards discarded to remove it. that is super costly while not affording to remove it is even more devastating.
27:32
imagine if he'd drawn the glider right there. he has no way to deal with it in both hands and 4 activations + a boost attachment coming up next round without stuns on the goblin can turn the game around. RNG is the name of the game :D
Yup this pretty much went the same way my first try did. I managed to eke out a win on my second game with Miles and Gwen but since then have been unsuccessful even trying other (strong) hero combinations. Ronan vibes for sure!
@Thunder Fuji Glad your second game went well!! I should get another chance in two weeks in my attempt with Troy, my other Marvel partner. Wish us luck! :)
Hello Dale, thank you for the awesome content. Where can I download an updated copy of the rule book? Any idea?
@Alin Bodor Thanks for watching, and you can find the updated rulebook at Fantasy Flights web site. Look under "Support" and "Rules". I know they are working on another update, but not sure when to expect it.
www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/products/marvel-champions-the-card-game/
Amazing campagin! Which box vilain you prefer? Curious :) mine is Titan but I box for sinister dont arrive yet
I'm still liking Red Skull ... but probably because I have the most plays with it. :)
What sleeves do you use for this game? Also, love your videos! Keep it up!
@Timothy Frontino Thanks for watching! For cards getting shuffled I use Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves, and then for the character identity card, main villain card, and main schemes I use FFG sleeves (basically any premium sleeve that is clear on both sides). The Dragon Shield clear matte sleeves are "blurry" on one side, so not the best for dual sided cards but I love the way they feel. Hope that helps, and happy gaming!! :)
when I face Venom Goblin I cry...then when he hits stage two I cry a lot XD everytime I face him it's like every turn I fear.Like his Glider,that big boost attachment.The one symbiote card where he grabs you and turns you into hero form and attacks you.....then shadows of the past can make him super nasty!
@Billy Spencer Venom Goblin does not play nice for sure! :)
We got to him on expert at 3 ppl with almost all rep, didnt take symbiote suit bit still start with all pmayers with 4 enc.card each, i had iron man with 3 pieces 1st turn, 17 life, 1st atk max damae on ally, 1st enc card Tracking display (cannot defend) and then 3 more attacks, killed me first turn...lol
@eldharion There a some seriously NASTY possibilities for the villain to end the game quick depending on how the encounter cards come out. Best with other players for a good laugh at how wrong everything can go. :)
My first game against Venom Goblin was pretty similar to yours ;) I don't think you stand a chance against him with your decks, especially protection for Gwen. I used aggression for her and leadership for Miles.
I think the worst one can do is to put threat on the schemes in the first stage of Venom Goblin, because threat is piling up very quickly and you have almost no chance to remove tons of threat.
What I did during my second play: I never put the additional threat on the schemes, instead I took the second option. And I played it very aggressively to finish the game as fast as possible. It worked but it was hard ;)
But it is the last scenario of a campaign, it should be challenging and it is. But it's doable, not like Ronan ;)
Hope to see a rematch soon :)
@SubotaiGaidon I tried once more with the same deck, went into the 2nd version better off, but Surge and equipment cards ended in the same result. I feel like rushing is probably the best option. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer Well, this scenario has the two most horrible encounter cards in the whole game, Webbed Up and the Advanced Glider. I hate both of them 😅
Looking forward to your next Marvel Champions Video
@@SubotaiGaidon Not fun being on the receiving end of a Webbed Up!! lol
In my one gameplay with him in campaign mode, most of the encounter card at the beginning brought out the Osborne tech cards which surged to more attachments. By the end of the villain phase he had like 6 attachments. He is brutal lol
Matthew Guigon Ouch!! Nothing like multiple surges! :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer ikr! Honestly don’t know who is worse VG or Ronan 😂
@@matthewguigon3339 Both can provide a negative play experience, or end in laughter after saying, "well it can't get any worse" ... flip an encounter card .. "well, I guess it can get worse." :)
Took us 4 attempts. We ended up switching Miles to aggression (to handle the glider which came out EVERY game for us) and Ghost to justice for threat management. I don’t think you can prevail using the justice / protection setup, but that’s my opinion
@SidoDyas I'm thinking a more aggressive approach like you mentioned will help! :)
Wow! A rare loss. Will you be replaying it as a video?
I did notice you could and should have gotten rid of Public Outcry a lot sooner in the game. That may have made a difference
I played this about a month ago, and had other games that needed some attention and moved towards those ... and now I'm expecting two new heroes early next week, so doubtful to have a rematch. I was able to get a win in my play with Troy, the other guy I play Champions with all the time. So I'm good. :)
Three tries so far to no avail. He's not as demoralizing as Ronan but it's close. Great effort, Dale. Is this the first time you have posted a loss on your channel? 😂 Btw, at 23:30 when you killed that Thrall you should have removed the last threat on Public Outry.
Who's been the most fun villain in this expansion? My pick is either the S6 or Mysterio. I loved the thematics.
@GoGo Reacts Pretty nasty for sure! I've got several losses posted, they happen. I like the Sinister Six best. For me, much like the Collector scenarios, I think these are neat mechanically and the different way you need to play to address a villain with indirect damage, or the amount of boosts, or encounter cards shuffled in your deck, but not sure they will stick in my regular rotation as much as the original set and Red Skull. Time will tell. :)
@@DaletheCasualGamer I finally beat him, Dale, on my 4th try, and it was barely. I'm not going to try beating him no more, haha. I appreciate the mechanics and thematics but he sucks the fun outta Marvel Champions very much like Ronan. I hope you beat him soon! :)
Did you eventually beat Venom Goblin? My friend and I have played him like 7 times and can only get to his 2nd form...those 2 extra encounter cards are the worst in stage 2.
Yes, but in addition to a good plan, a little luck is very helpful too. :)
Even the great ones lose occasionally! I know Protection is not a preferred aspect of yours but Gwen was lacking in some key cards like Defiance, Expert Defence, Armoured Vest, Unflappable, Hard to Ignore.
@Grant McEvoy Definitely some better protection cards I could have used. Focused on her getting damaged ... and the villains didn't hit that hard, until this one. :)
Can you actually get rid of the We Are One attachment with a wild resource? It specifically says printed resource, i’ve always played that wild resources don’t count, as the “printed” resource isn’t correct. I’m curious as to how others played it. Regardless, it didn’t matter, he is an brutal villain. I’m scheduled to face him with my group for the first time this week.
@T Cat You are correct, it needs printed resources. Venom Goblin didn't card either way. ;)
Them folks in Public Outcry have been at it all campaign. Settle down, heroes at work here.
Not that it would have mattered but have Silk dump Advance over SotP because there are two of’ em and the scenario pitches a lot of scheme. Those UberStax trays earned their keep.
Nevertheless it was a very good series. More than I would bite off with new heroes. Rematch? Or perhaps a overall reactions video?
Agreed, maybe some support from the public would have helped … or an adult hero or two. ;)
@@DaletheCasualGamer agreed but adults? It all went pear shaped when George Stacey decided to peace out with one of his accrued sick days. Rumor has it he had opening day tix to Multiverse.
@@JJEMcManus lol
Dale... I’m getting a sneaky suspicion that you like the Marvel card game... lol
There's a chance I might like this game. ;)
32:55 changing your name to Charlie Brown? Good grief indeed. 🙃
lol Venom Goblin treated me like Lucy!
I won this scenario with Miles (Justice) and Gwen (Protection) in first attempt.
Spoilers:
I had in her deck different defense events (Expert Defense and Never Back Down - 1/2 stun sometimes or you may add Desperate Defence for double defense and ready to protect MIles also).
I was always defending so my defense was +6 (+5) and I had SHIELD upgrade which allowed me to discard 1 card to protect 1 damage (this darts are rubbish ;)).
I removed other defense cards because they depend I got dmg or not. So I took almost no damage on her. DAD is important for her to keep defense / attack events on steady.
I think Moxie was not good chooise, I add Skilled Strike to have interrupt when she was attacking for 0. In my games she is using her ability in each turn thanks to this 0 event. In my opinion she must use her ability all the time. For her very good ally is this Voodoo guy which allow her to search for event. So She is atacking for 4 -> ready atacking for 2 -> sometimes one of her event i.e. +5 thw. when I had economy for that but I find them to expensive to have only them. I find enchansed reflexes is very good card for her especially with grey doublers and other resource cards: her gauntlets and Unflappable. She was my attacking character and I almost never flip to other side with her (only to shuffle ticket). And Spider-Man PP - this is op card and you may have event to bring him back from trash for 2. Peter give you +2 thw / attack and ready her!
For Miles (justice) you need +1 thw card on him and he must thw as crazy. Especially with his card to flip + ready him -> unflip -> thw again. And 1/2 stun with his ability to keep Goblin stunned or thw from his event. I was focusing on thw to keep low level of threat on schemes and dmg almost only from Gwen.
Main card which helped me a lot was One Way or Another - it gave Miles cards for ally and events. And you may always bring Cat on a tree ;)
Removing this upgrade which is giving Goblin overkill is most important.
Congrats on your play, and thanks for the update. :)