Old Time Strongman Training Techniques
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
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In this video I discuss some unique aspects of 'old time strongman' training and discuss the different methods that guys like Arthur Saxon, Eugen Sandow and Maxick would use to develop incredible strength. These guys could perform feats such as pulling cars using just their teeth, lifting immense amounts of weight with single fingers, driving nails into wood with their hands and much more.
I look at a few principles in particular:
* Overcoming isometrics/static contraction
* Unusual lifts (bent press, side press, anyhow lift)
* Progressive overload
* Grip training
* Muscle control
Let me know what you guys think of these methods and if I've missed anything! Thanks so much for watching and I'll catch you next time! 
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Old school is where its at. When you consider what these guys were doing, drug free, its hard not to be totally inspired.
Shows that the human body is kind of limitless
I have mad respect for the OLDER men who were still respected as strong men. It isn't so difficult to achieve gains, strength, and physique when you are in your 20's but to sustain it into your 40's and 50's is something to truly be admired!!
No, men in their 40s or 50s who continue to use their muscles lose no strength; on the contrary, they are often stronger than their 20 year old semi-boy selves.
@@itzakehrenberg3449 Fully agreed, especially if you are truly avoiding bad habits like eating alcohol and drinking sugar
Lmao imagine being born just to be lifted by strongman
Golden Kakashka tbh I wouldn't mind
😂
Noice
@Mik 😂
Calf probably served it's purpose later
As steak or providing milk lmao
No cliche there bro.. Your uploaded video is full of researched and practised techniques. There is logic about practices of strengthening human body. Moreover, your narration style is also very friendly. Watching such videos is a treat... Thanks a lot... Wish you good health and good luck
Thanks a lot :-D Really glad you enjoyed it!
"Nights by playing COD in stuffy rooms" makes brain properly register what he said, "cards"
Lol! Dude was ahead of his time!
Aizen Kazama Close enough considering its the modern past time
Playing cod in ''stuffy'' (weed smoke) filled rooms
possibly a dumb question, but does anyone know his name?
Awesome Possum The mighty atom was his stage name. Real name Joseph S Greenstein. A book called The Mighty Atom by Ed Speilman 1979 pub Secker & Walburg SBN 436 48200 2
I train my ears. I started with a 5×5 before moving on to the Texas Method. Now I carry a calf with my ears.
Haha! That is the dream. Calf earrings.
Ear power
4:08 - 4:18 that's how you get all the ladies.
Haha! For some reason it never seems to work... Maybe I need an even more extreme eyeball trick!
The Bioneer I can look at my nose with one eye and look upward with another
I didn't see his eyes moving and I was wondering why the heck he was hitting himself in the head
In martial arts. they would push their hands into pots of sand, finger tips first, and then clench their fist.
To strengthen the grip.
Read 72 arts of Shaolin. It has a lot of the type of stuff in it
Knuckle push ups, strong grips come from isometrically clenching your hands into a fist shape.
That's conditioning
Is that where calf raises came from
Delta skelta genius
Wait...He lost fingers the first time he tried it? Then what? After that, did he think... "Hmmm... I haven't quite mastered catching cannon balls yet. Let me keep trying this!"
That's someone with too much time on their hands. And not enough fingers.
It just went out of his hands, I would say.
Oh he said cannonballs?? I thought he said cannibals - man why would a person try a second time if the first time you lose a few digits.....
😂😂😂😂😂
No fingers no chance of losing fingers
That is someone who would be like the terminator if they were coming after you
I was lifting weights and i noticed that my triceps were growing as well as my biceps but they both grew too slow then i had noticed that i could focus on which specific muscles to use but i never knew it was a thing
Yup, that's muscle control :-D Ideally, you want to relax the triceps during a curl to maximize your strength.
Ive started training isometrics for days and it felt different... my muscles have gone harder than beforem
No protein shakes those days either!
Just good old eggs!
Hallows Victim no man you r missing out trust me
Naptown Squid Big if true
Waked Stoat sheesh man you sound like a closet gay boy
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Two of the greatest strong men practiced ISO. One was Alexander Zass and the other was The Great Gama, check them out, if your interested in ISO.
The Great Gama was the one who tried to push trees out the ground as well
Thx
it was the great gamma (the indian wrestler) who push and pull trees
Yeees! That's it! I did look and couldn't find the reference. Thanks a lot! :-D
Joseph Greenstein''The mighty Atom on his autobiography mention he met the Great Gama.He saw him pushing and pulling trees.He knew he never can uproot a tree but told him made to lift another wrestler easy.
Sorry,Ed Spielman wrote the biography of Joseph Greenstein''The mighty atom''you can purchase from Amazon.
I've actually done a bit of research myself on strong men, and watched a few different conpetitions on tv about them. It is where i first learned about cholesterol being a necessary element of testosterone. I also seen they too had wider hips, not so much worried about having that thin V shaped stomach but generally having a wider base from which to lift from, like them stocky Italians we see in movies. I realized too they have bigger hands, which i thouh was impossible to develop until i loked further into shaolin martial arts. I was before using my palms to strike things (my chief thing to slap was a brick wall here by my apartment), but for now have started using a tree for that purpose. I was also trying to push it as well, which idk why by
Ut my body understood the mechanics behind it (i don't question it anymore...). I usually follow what it feels like doing and it always turns out to be a great workout for it. I knkw various different things TO DO, but my body is the best teacher and so i go with what it feels is next.
Very interesting. I myself wanted to gain pure strength, not just muscles. I'm recollecting information but I think I get the point.
@@angelrxn5944 feel free to message me on messenger as well (under the same name and picture), I was actually in the process of recollecting information as well, and using what I feel and seen were the best products. From energy drinks, to pre-workout packets and tubs, to the more natural and medicinal plants, And also delving quite a bit into nootropics, i am going to begin writing a manual of sorts, similar to people of old, which will hold what I have learned from many different cultures, and methods executed to bring people to their peak operation.
There is much to be learned from the old-timers. I was fortunate to have met and learned from some of them before embarking down the road of the performing strongman. I had the rare opportunity to have been asked to bend a steel bar on the bridge of the nose of Mike Greenstein, (the son of the Mighty Atom, who was the strongman at the beginning of this video). I'll actually be doing a Tedx talk about this pretty soon.
Any update on the tedx talk and if the event was recorded and uploaded somewhere?
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@@R15Kl3Rhey didn’t see this till just now. It’s actually here on RUclips, it’s actually on my channel
My most recent deadlift was the bar and 25#'s (relatively light weight) and walked around the gym (only me there). I would lift and carry it to a spot, set it down, and repeat. I feel its more "real" to do that. I also use 2 50's dumbbells and walk and carry and set down, pick up, and continue so on. It's what you would do in a work setting like on a farm or construction site.
How often do you do a deadlift in the wild?... Everytime u pick something up off the ground
Deadlift is definitely a very useful functional movement. But that said, in the actual wild, we wouldn't really have picked all that much up. Our own kids would probably have been the heaviest things. And even now, most of the time when we lift something heavy, it's not off the ground with deadlifting form (IMO). Unless you're in removals...
I have a business that involves alot of lifting. Deadlifts have helped tremendously. I find myself setting up like a deadlift to pick something up off the ground. I can see how some of these unique lifts would be helpful too. Alot of times it's not easy to setup like a safe lift when working.
I think what the Bioneer means here is that there aren't perfect barbells in the wild where you're going to be picking up weight off the ground in perfect deadlift form. Your going to be picking up awkward objects and sometimes multiple objects at once and it will not always be in the perfect position as a deadlift.
He isn't saying that deadlifts aren't beneficial or that you don't pick stuff up by bending over.
This is sort of related to the goal of being more like Batman. I can't imagine super-heroes existing without these old-timey dudes paving the way.
+Chris LeRose You are not wrong, in fact this inspiration is the reason that Superman was drawn wearing his pants over his trousers :-) That and it worked to break up the colour palette I imagine!
As a construction worker I can say I can see some value from these exercises. I have recently decided to start focusing more on arms, shoulders, back and especially grip and Roman deadlifts, plus calves, always calves! One particular movement in particular would be static holds as I do similar stuff to that like hammer drilling above my head.
I love your video...I train with stones, logs, chains, dynamic tension, isometrics, home made dumbells and body weight....I do like taking a trip to a gym occasionally, as I started with weights. Thanks for your vid mate. I own the Maxick book. It has helped me a lot,,,much improvement...
Thanks man, and your training sounds awesome!
Hey I am trying to train similar to you. I believe that the knowledge passed on throughout thousands of years of men building their bodies has more knowledge than something performed in a controlled environment for an 8 month study. If there are any resources like books, videos, knowledge, etc that you could reference to me it’d be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Wrap around the towel around the bar was the best tip for me. I also like to do finger push ups or pullups. Awesome vid, man! Interested in collab?
Thanks! And absolutely, I was planning on suggesting the same thing! I shall drop you a message or feel free to hit me up on here/Facebook/Twitter/email (it's on my site) if you get there first! This will be awesome :-)
If you really want a strong grip do your pull ups on vertical hanging metal chain links
WilliamDavid ImpacFit Training Would a chain swing set at a park work fine?
ear wiggling is actually hereditary so is folding and fliping your toung
Siim Land still haven't seen your physique
Yo man you are the GOAT for compiling this information I swear, this is the channel ive been looking for
Just wanted to say i discovered your channel last month but just recently started watching your vidoes consistently. You give so much good advice and information. I feel like your channel is going to grow fast! Keep up the good work.
You want a stronger grip? Deadlift without straps and HEAVY!!!!
I used to lift around 400lbs no gloves or straps, my palms would end up bleeding lol
EXTRA GROOVY perhaps you increased to fast. Did the same weight (180kg) sets of 5 and had no issues. Hands has already been hardened by years to training no gloves through.
Jeeses99 you do realize that the belt is to prevent hernias right? No amount of core will stop a hernia
I stopped training two years ago after 10 years of training. I got bored. I'm doing this in the morning before work... A whole new world!! Thanks pal!
I love your channel man. I use multiple of your techniques and training programs. I'm much stronger and faster than a month ago. I have no limits. All thanks to you
Ive been trying to wrap my head around that bent press! Thanks for showing how its generally done 👌
Oh wow... This video was actually very helpful. I would never of thought to read books of the Eugene sandow days. This is what the body is missing now adays in terms of strength. Great video
Thanks, I'm glad! Yeah, there's a lot to learn from those guys :-)
Awesome insight. Keep up the good work, i look forward to learning more.
Good outlook on concepts. You always have some good presentations. Keep researching and sharing.
I️ love this topic, I️ did a 45 min PowerPoint presentation with around 50 slides as my graduation project in high school last year!
I honestly always come to your channel for new training methods or information because u really do your research on stuff and don’t just talk bs that some fitness channels make up
versatility is my core principle in training, you just widened my view on this, subbed
Good video! Nice to see others (especially younger people) looking into the old styles of training rather than the modern status quo. I'm looking into the great Paul Anderson & Louis Cyrs for training reference right now myself. Very inspirational strength athletes!
Thank you for saying that “new is not always better”, because it is not always is!!!
I think im gonna start incorporating this old strongman stuff into my workouts too. Looks cool, and makes sense on how it would lead to more balanced strength gains.
This is the type of content I was looking for thanks.
Excellent video! I love this type of training!
0:59 Words to live by... still applies nearly a century later
Interesting video. Helpful information and good presentation.
I have been incorporating unilateral training for a few weeks. My favourite is the one arm deadlift with the bar simply in front of me. It gives me soreness in places normal deadlifts don't. Plus it's making me stronger at all my pulls.
Anyway, keep making these videos.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! And yeah, these kinds of lifts really do get you aching in new places. And that really highlilghts how useful they are :-D
Great job & thanks for the explanations & demonstrations!! 💪💪😎
great research, love your videos....
Great content, really! I think we all appreciate the effort and research behind your videos. I'm specially interested in mind-muscle control, there are not so many good videos about in on youtube. Hopefully you can make a video to go into detail about it soon, and you have some cool mind-muscle control yourself, can't wait to see more of it haha
Thank you for the kind words :-) Yes a lot of work went into this one! Mind muscle connection is definitely an area I'm particularly interested in too, so I will be covering it more and from different angles in coming videos for sure.
The best thing i have seen on RUclips so far
I'd love to know the name of the long hair strongman who doesn't smoke or drink. He sounds like a great man I'd love to learn more about him but sadly don't know his name.
That's The Mighty Atom
AKA Joseph Greenstein. There is a great book about his life by Ed Spielman.
Just tried some of sandows exercises and im quite excited. Bery interesting dude thanks for the vid
great video. well and humbly presented.
Good video man! Will be trying some of these lifts.
Thanks! Good luck :-D
Excellent vid. Got my vote
I'm glad I saw this, thanks for making it
Great video, very informative. Not just the usual rehash of same old stuff
Thanks :-D
Sig Klein and his tiger bends were incredible.
Great video bro!
Awesome video. Just earned another subscriber. 💪🏾
Sweet thanks, and welcome to the channel!
Great video... Keep the good work.
Thanks a lot :-D I shall try!
nice re - searching...!! more people need to know about this..!!
good work bro..!! 👍
Could you make a video about brain taming? Like focus training, how you can force your brain to focus on what you want and avoid distractions.
+Weeblo ooo It's definitely coming up! In the meantime, I wrote a similar blog post on my site about the 'salience network'. Check that out if you're interested and thanks for watching :-)
Just finished reading it and it helped, but what about getting distracted by disturbing thoughts? The inner thoughts of the mind
Try meditation
first step, close fb, then stop looking n comment videos about it,
Weeblo ooo acceptance. is the key, if your thoughts talk shit. talk with your mind like if it other person, and say you just talk shit ajaja works. an empty minds isnt usefull in a reasonable way
gamma,he is the man who pushes trees for isometrics he is a diffrent beast
Thanks! Maybe I'll do a video all about him in future, seems like a fascinating character!
Great video! Keep up the good work
Well done! A nice informative video, you have done your homework.~
this was really an interesting video, thx for sharing
This was so interesting and I learned a lot. Can't wait to try the squatting press and for the looks at the gym I will get while performing it.
Excellent content and sharing your research. God bless.
this video is so cool ! thank you !!
Thank you, I found this extraordinarily helpful.
Really nice video 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent video. Thanks!
Very informative gives me a new prspective for my trainig Old Rob . Thanks
thanks for these new ideas
Your channel is amazing bro!
Great video.
I came across your content just a few weeks ago and watched two of them today. It's very useful n u do it without any hype or other unnecessary. I thought u can make several videos with your content so that you can stay in touch with us the subscribers more after watching untapped strength series
Thanks for using the term "Static Contractions". By the way I really enjoy your video series - always interesting - a job well done. I have a collection of over 2000 bodybuilding magizines dating back to 1937. I think you'd have a great time looking at them. Best wishes - Darren Colt (NSP Mr. Germany - Berlin Olympic Games 1936)
Nice one, enjoyed a lot. thanks
Quite interesting. Thnx for sharing.
wow!! very impressive....your videos are always at the best point... and also teaches good things.....can you please make more videos on isometric training and calisthenics...plzz??
Thank you! And yes, I have a couple of videos on isometrics in the pipeline. I like to rotate my topics a bit but 'best isometric exercises' is definitely on the way :-)
Informative and entertaining!
10:15 I do it at my job a lot actually. There’s a cart that needs to be pulled over a ledge and it usually has feed bags on it
Fascinating! I agree.
The Side Press and Back Lift were two other popular lifts. Odd object lifting, keg, barrel, and sandbag lifting, and stone lifting. I'm getting into Scottish Highland games, so that might be an interesting indeavor of strength to for you to pursue.
Very informative 👏
Thank you
Could you give advice on maintaining joints, ligaments and tendons while training please? Thanks in advance. Love your content!
good work man!
Thanking you!
Amazing video man you got a sub I love this video
Thanks a lot, welcome! :-D
great video thanks!
+roseagain2 Thanks for watching! :-)
Love it keep at it brother
Thanks! :-D
Thanks for this information!
Peace & B Great!!!
Still looking good Adam,I was impressed by the muscle up. Nice job.
Great video. I'm learning a lot from your videos you should make more but take your time.
Thank you! Glad you're finding them useful :-) Yeah, the plan is to try and ramp up production without cutting quality. Will do my best!
You sir, earned my sub
Intresting video and your speech inspired me. Thanks for the video dude. :) Must try those old timers lifts sometimes.
Thanks for commenting and watching sir!
The Bioneer Go check my channel if you are intrested about powerlifting stuff. 😁
What you were calling a side press is more of a windmill. They are all in the same family of techniques, but in a windmill you press first and keep the arm locked through the descent, in a bent press you press as you descend, and in a side press you keep your arm bent through the descent and press from the bottom(pressing sideways from your torso). An excellent resource for the bent press is "The Iron Tamer" David Whitley's E-book, Taming the Bent Press.
The windmill lift. Thanks!😃👍🏻💪🏻🎄
I Just love your content, ever tought on trying some judo or wrestling? for what I have searched, they share roots with strongman workouts.
I've seen the micro loading done using string and washers. Adding a washer on your max lift. keep adding washers until they add up to the weight of a plate. This was also mentioned in the 80s mag 'Strength Athlete'. I wished I'd kept them. I had them all. Thanks mum! lol
Micro loading?
I love this channel so much..I started a channel a few months ago and one of my goals is to collaborate in the future as I grow bigger. See you at the top!
⛔Strong-man characteristics:-
1. Strong grip
2. Mind and muscle control
3. Progressive overload/increase weight gradually
4. Overcoming isometric contraction/pushing or pulling immovable objects
5. One arm lifts
what was the thing you were pulling apart and pushing together around the 8:30 mark where can i get one