Devil's Eye Cave Dive at Ginnie Springs
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- Nov 21, 2021 Cave dive at Ginnie Springs
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Avid Dive Talk fan here, although I found you guys in my recommended. I will say this was a FANTASIC video, great narration, great footage and lighting, and I enjoy the fact that you throw out constantly: TRAINING, TRAINING, TRAINING. Cave diving isn’t dangerous UNLESS you’re not trained or your ego is in the way. Love the video and keep posting this great quality content, you’ve earned yourself another subscriber ✌🏼
Wow Marshall, thank you so much! We love Dive Talk! They’ve really helped to mold us into “aware” divers. I’m so glad you appreciate the content. We aren’t really professionals at this but with this kind of encouragement, it keeps the fire burning inside us. Thank you for subbing!
Dive talk sucks
@@azdeatherage Wow great trolling, that was SOO funny. Look everybody we have a loser who hates when other people are doing better than him. What a joke. Any Dive Talk video shows an immeasurable gap in content when comparing them to you. I hope one day you’ll be able to happily look at yourself in the mirror and smile rather than finding joy in trash talking a channel that is doing leaps and bounds for the diving community by getting informed people into classes and giving divers even more tips and tricks for the game
@@azdeatherage I certainly cannot begrudge you of your opinion. The difference in views and the ability to express them is what makes our country great.
I’m very sorry that you don’t find DiveTalk to be your cup of tea. It’s none of my business why you don’t care for it, but we have found a lot of value in that channel.
Everyone has individual taste and that’s ok. That you for taking time to watch our video and commenting.
❤❤❤ I’m from Dive Talk as well. I think it’s awesome the way you have taken the corrective criticism and changed and make it much safer for your team (son) it’s just amazing and I wish more had the same attitude!
Thank you Jessica! We are honored that you took the time to watch and share your thoughts.
A large piece of “humble pie” is very difficult for people to swallow, especially divers. Certification comes with a sense of pride in the beginning. I’ve learned that too many divers convert that pride to ego with each level of progression they attain. This makes it very rare to hear a lot of divers admit to the dozens of mistakes they’ve made. Gus and Woody are exceptions to that rule. They openly admit mistakes at the risk of the “elites” making fun of them. This helps other divers to realize that mistakes SHOULD be shared because even if you get a thousand negative comments, but you help just one person, it’s a true success. In the dive community, we only learn lessons from dead people because the ones who made it out alive are either too proud to admit what happened OR they are afraid of being ridiculed. We are trying to change that.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves wow 🤩 I actually have even more respect for you with that reply! You are absolutely spot on with everything you say. It’s sad that your right most feel scared OR ego gets in the way of admitting to making mistakes and learning. Kudos to you sir, it’s always better in every situation to learn and when one believes they are now an “expert” they tend to stop the learning process.
@@Jessica_xoxoxo you are 100% correct. I recently came under some criticism from fellow divers because they heard we dove outside our certification in the past. Yet these same divers that criticized us were at this years cave diving convention and when the speaker had us all raise our hands and ask us a series of questions, hands were dropping with each question… with about 75 hands still in the air, the last question was “how many of you have NEVER dove beyond your certification level?” Suddenly there were no hands in the air but yet those same egomaniacs feel they have the right to criticize us because our mistakes were publicly discussed.
We have a big update to give and it will be along the lines of helping others through admission of error so that it may help to save lives. I will provide more info in upcoming videos.
Thank you again for sticking with us and for your encouragement.
Well , the important thing is that you reacted well to other people's reactions , learned a good lesson and now you are enjoying diving , the proper way . Safety first . Godspeed , brother .
Thank you Armando! We have been so blessed to hear from people like yourself. We really do appreciate the kind words and encouragement. Thank you for watching and taking the time to share your thoughts!
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves There are too many idiots talking bitter words without having proper structure themselves , it is life people enjoy other people's misfortune more and more but even though the weak kicks on the fallen , the strong always help them to get back up .
Awesome video Mark! Place is beautiful.
You learned accepted responsibility… now you got a new fan base I appreciated your humility and forthrightness
Thank you so much! And thank you for taking time to watch and comment. It really means a lot to us.
Absolutely loved this dive, footage came out great!!🤟🏼🤿
Man that's a gorgeous work by nature. Videos like this make me want to learn how to dive...
Thank you so much! It really is amazing! People just don’t understand how beautiful the cave systems are. So many times, I hear people tell we are “crazy” and “I could never do that!”
Once you see it for the first time, you will have a new found love for nature that is very difficult to put into words.
We really appreciate you for sharing your day with us and for sharing your thoughts.
Well at the time of viewing this video you have 340 subscribers and you’re getting excited to hit 100 here so massive congrats on that! I think the algorithm has you latched to dive talk a little bit which is just awesome. I’m not usually a fan of viewing independent dive videos but this is far from the norm. While this is a spring so you have the amazing visibility going for you in terms of making a video, putting that completely aside here the actual video quality and inviting tone of the narration is what I really liked. I’ve only been to blue springs in FL to free dive but that still has to be one of my favorite places I’ve been anywhere in the world. My diving experience is really only open water a long time ago with much older equipment. Even with that it’s still my favorite hobby by far and I’m extremely excited to have recently moved back to an area where I will be able to dive again, without the massive amount of hassle that comes with diving in very cold water.
What had me curious here is the two gray pieces on the divers back (currently paused right around the 9:20 mark.) Is that for buoyancy? Or for protection in that tight space?
Congrats again on far exceeding your subscriber goal from this video and I hope you keep it up!
Thank you so much for sharing a part of your day with us. We really appreciate the comments as well. The grey things you asked about are the “wing” sections of the BCD. They air bladders that are used for buoyancy but are made of a material that resists scraps and abrasions. So you are correct on both points. Thank you very very much for watching and letting us know what you think. It makes a huge difference for us when you choose to do that. Also, thank you for the encouragement and support. We are releasing a channel update really soon. There is a lot to go over and of course another dive video will accompany it.
As far as dive sites, if you’re diving Florida, you might want to check out Buford sink. It’s a favorite of free divers and scuba divers alike. It’s the best cavern in Florida.
So glad to find your channel! I appreciate your humility and reference about learning from DiveTalk. When I have the money to get certified, I want to go to Ginnie Springs. Excellent camera work and beautiful dive.
Thank you so much!!! As an open water diver you can enter the cavern at the main spring because the cave is blocked with permanent bars. It’s an unreal experience…I highly recommend it, but do it with someone familiar with the “Ballroom”. (That’s what they call it)
Did this dive in December (got as far as the park bench). Awesome video. I can now share it with friends who were wondering what it was like.
Thank you Michele!!!! It’s so awesome that you choose to share with your friends. So many non-divers never really get to experience what we see. We are truly honored that you would share our video to help convey your experience to your friends.
Beautiful dive❤️
Really happy you guys are certified! It’s safe and lots of fun! Also you become a lot more confident in your dives. You guys are awesome, keep it up. 👍🏽 also, I need to dive this place one day.
Thank you Christian! Let us know when you’re going to be there and we will try to meet you there. 👌🏻
You did an awesome job narrating your video.
Thanks
Thank you Hank! We really do appreciate the fact that you gave us a portion of your day. It truly is an honor. And thank you for sharing your thoughts. We are gearing back up to do several dives over the next month or two so that we post them. Thank you again.
GREAT video quality. My fav passtime, watching scuba vids. Thank you from sunny South Afric. Lola xxx
Thank you Lola! We are so honored that you took the time out of your day to watch our video and for sharing your thoughts. We never know who our videos reach or how far. Thank you for letting us know where you are from. Your part of the world is so beautiful. Lots of great diving there, albeit the Great Whites, lol.
Some of the most beautiful photography I e ever seen nice job keep it up
Wow, thank you so much for the encouraging words. You have no idea how much that means to us. We have been experimenting with different lighting tactics to get the best view for our subs and all viewers in general. The positive feedback is such a momentum builder for us. Thank you again for taking the time to watch and especially for sharing your thoughts.
Came to you via Dive Talk. Love it!
The DiveTalk family is strong! Thank you so much for checking us out. We are grateful that you took the time to watch and for commenting. It really means a lot to us. We will have another video up next week that should be pretty awesome.
Great footage! I just took a trip down to devils den, and those caverns made me want to cave dive more than anything. That was always the goal before I got into diving, but now it’s even more solidified. It’s so beautiful, and more peaceful than anything in that world
It’s every bit worth it! Just find a reputable instructor who won’t take shortcuts. If don’t feel like you had to work your ass off for it, there is a good chance you missed out on some very valuable skills. It’s not hard to pass the drills to “meet” the criteria but you want an instructor who will make you as safe as possible. I recommend Dene from Into The Overhead. Check them out.
Love this video! Subscribed!
Thank you so much Jacob!!! We really appreciate your kind words and support. Another video will be coming out soon. 👌🏻
Awesome video! I always wanted to see a vid of scuba/cave diving where someone really explained the hole dive.
Sugestiom: Maybe you could include a breaf of the dive in the beginning like cave map, length...
Thanks! Great content!
Great suggestion! Thank you! We are just getting started and love the feedback. We will start including that in new videos. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch and for taking time to make us better.
Very good video. Just the right amount of narrative. Missing where to don equipment, entry into river, and distance. But, hey, I can't have everything.
Thank you so much for sharing your day with us and for sharing your thoughts.
Just for you, we will go back and get footage of the entire process for the viewers because you make some very good points. There may be a thousand people asking this same questions, missing the same things.
Thank you for letting us be a part of your day. Safe diving!
Looks awesome. Hoping to dive the springs in Feb
It is truly amazing. Hopefully we can find a good time to dive together if you’re up for it. Thank you for checking us out.
Great video! Thanks for posting 😃 Taking my Cave 1 course in cave country next month!
Big Congrats Dawson! It’s such an awesome experience. Thank you so much for visiting our channel and for watching. It’s really humbling to think people such as yourself take time out of their busy days to share with us. Thank you so much!!!
Heather SZ sent me! Love this and look forward to seeing more.
We sincerely appreciate the support. Heather is awesome!!!
Hey I’m glad you guys got your certs, keep enjoying your dives, and be safe 👍 I will say in my opinion the bigger the cave rooms the more dangerous it can be. This is really great visuals.💯
I saw that you subbed. We greatly appreciate you for that and for taking time to watch and comment. We are coming into our “busy season” for diving and will be posting a lot more videos in the coming weeks. Thank you again!
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves 👍 I will keep a eye out for them 🙏
I miss diving this cave!!!
It truly is one of life’s great adventures. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Perhaps you’ll have an opportunity soon to dive it again.
I’m impressed with your humble introduction and amazing journey Sr. and yes I’m DiveTalk dude .. I dive with G&W.. you should consider to join us in Bonaire !!
Thank you so much!!! We can’t go this year but we can hardly contain ourselves until next year. I love hearing the “after stories”.
This is great. I’m new and a Dive Talk subscriber and I remember that video reaction. So glad you took that as the impetus to get certified to do this right. I’ll be there in April doing ANDP Helotrox and Cavern starting this journey too All the way from California since we don’t have caves here
Thank a million! Dive Talk is awesome, we love it. Super nice guys in person too. Maybe we can meet up when you come to Florida. We travel the state so it might work out. You will love cavern and cave!
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves Hey dove Ginnie and it’s amazing. Peacock too. I’m coming back in July for my Choptima course and again in November for full cave. We’ll have to hook up
@@mikesbigadventures194 most definitely! I saw you on the live stream the other day. What was your favorite part of Ginnie and Peacock?
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves Devils Eye to the Lips and the Peanut Tunnel. Still not full cave so we didn’t go far but that was all I needed to get the bug.
@@mikesbigadventures194 I bet! It gets you quick! I know not everyone thinks they would enjoy cave diving, it’s just hard for me to imagine who those 3 people are. Lol. You can probably see why we were so drawn to it early on.
Good stuff Mark!
Thank you Heather! Can’t wait to meet you and dive with you. Thank you for helping us out. 🙏🏻
Nice video , top quality thing .
Thank you very much!!! We try to get better with each one but this video was really the best one yet as far as things we’ve tried to improve what the viewer sees. Thank you Armando!!!!
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves You are welcome , brother .
this is great content!
Thank you so much Lee! We really appreciate the fact that you took time from your day to share your thoughts with us. We absolutely appreciate the feedback.
I like this video (nice edit/narration). I love diving the Devil's cave system, but I hate having to run the Ginnie Springs Outdoors gauntlet to do so. My friend and cave instructor (Chris B.) taught me the "tricks" to diving this system including (as others have already advised) "get near the ceiling of the gallery where the flow is lowest", "pull and glide" (note: there won't be much, if any, gliding going in), or just "USE A SCOOTER" (no kicking required!!!). If I tried to swim against that flow, low through the gallery, I would be cramping long before the lips and I would waste a lot of gas (I don't need help wasting OC gas). In my opinion, the real fun starts after the turn, when I can relax and "go with the flow"! Thanks for putting this out there. I'll show it ...
Thank you Anthony! It means a lot to us that people take time to watch and especially for sharing your thoughts. We love The system there. I hope it reopens soon. The first few times we went we did stay near the top and it was much easier. We have a scooter but don’t feel comfortable using a DPV in the caves yet. We want to practice, practice, practice. Thank you again for giving us a piece of your day sir.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves Oh, I think you are going to LOVE diving your DPV in Devils! That said, I wouldn't take it in there without a DPV Cave cert., or without an instructor. Ginnie Springs Outdoors has been known to ban divers for life!!!
@@anthonyflynn5406 We are new to the DPV so lots of practice in open areas will be necessary and then we will get the DPV Cave cert. it’s a little ways off for us, but definitely loving the DPV.
excellent video quality and glad you guys got certfied. one thing that would concern me being in the back with all that flow is if something went wrong and I couldn't get my buddy's attention. Not certified in any way but just wondering what methods cave training (or otherwise) covers that caveat.
Thank you so much for watching and for asking such a great question.
One of the skills required to become certified for cave diving is something called “light awareness”. We use lights for various communications. If we need to get someone’s attention we move our lights in a certain pattern to indicate emergency, yes, no, take notice, etc. for instance if I were having an emergency, I would shake my light very quickly. If I want to convey that I’m ok, I would draw slow circles on the wall or ground in front of my buddy. You’ll see that in the video a few times.
I hope that helps to clarify your question.
Thank you again for sharing a part of your day with us. 😁
That suit looks good Paul! I'll be trying mine out, soon.
Heyyyyyoooo
He loved it! Nice and toasty compared to his old one.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves Good to know!!
Dive talk brought me here..:)
Thank you Bridgett! The fact you took the time to watch and let us know how you found us is very much appreciated. We hope you’ll keep watching as we grow.
Wow , beautiful
Thank you so much! We really appreciate you taking time to watch and for sharing your thoughts with us.
I can imagine Gus's and woody gave you guys hell 😂😂😂
It was all out of love and concern. If you haven’t seen it please check it out at this link….
ruclips.net/video/YknyfdIAxeg/видео.html
It was tough to listen to but it was more concerning to us that we let people down and mislead people who are new to diving or thinking of getting into it.
Ditch the tank boots :) Go high through the gallery, look for places to hide from the flow behind rocks and such. Pull and glide through most of that and the lipps:) I always enjoy looking at wet rock videos though.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching and for the tips. We will post the bootless video soon 😉
Well done fellers
Thank you Randy!
I appreciate this video as I can see it was a nice dive. However, I don’t enjoy close confined spaces while breathing underwater. I do stick my head in some caves/caverns throughout Florida for the experience, but I turn around long before I can get into trouble. Plus, I don’t like the idea of Mother Earth sitting on my head. It’s just not for me since I get bored looking at rock formations after 2 minutes, lol, and I like to see the fishies. 🤣. I will be looking for the next video though. Nice job on this one. God bless!
Thank you so much for taking time to watch and to comment. I know caves are not for everyone, including friends of mine who love diving. I love seeing SeaLife as well, but my curiosity makes me lean toward the caves.
Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. 👌🏻
The video quality is fantastic. As a rec diver and as many cave dive video's I've watched, I just don't get the attraction other than the tech side of it. I guess some folks like me prefer 80 degree water, a shorty, lots of pretty fish and coral and having a drink on the beach in the afternoon. ;) That's being said, maybe telling us how you started diving and how you ended up cave diving might be fun. For us lazy vacation divers that want to visit the FL springs; any must do's on your list?
Thank you Chris!!!! Great points and phenomenal question. We will discuss this in an upcoming video.
Big thanks for the compliment on video quality. We are new to the videography and photography, try to turn out better videos with each one. Ginnie was filmed on a day that everything lined up perfectly for us, and I know it shows. So far it’s the one that gets the most “wow” comments.
Thank you for sharing your day with us and spending a few minutes to help us grow. We really do appreciate it.
if im not mistaken one of those lights i am seeing in this video is a cheap amazon light i just did a video on it im working on uploading it as we speak
Absolutely. Those lights are affordable and really bright.
Who did you do your cave training with, and do you have a link to the Dive Talk video?
We have used a few instructors for various carts but most recently we used Brendan Stone.
I think you’re asking about the DiveTalk video in which they reacted to us. If so….
ruclips.net/video/YknyfdIAxeg/видео.html
Thanks for watching and for engaging us in the comments.
I noticed you weren't pulling and gliding your way through the cave. Is there a reason? I've learned that using your arms rather than your big leg muscles to travel in a high flow system really helps conserve your air
Great video BTW. I love this system
@@michaellambert2976 thank you so much for taking the time to watch and comment. From your question, I can tell you know a thing or two about cave diving. Sounds like you are a cave diver and have been to Ginnie quite a bit. 👌🏻
You are correct, we did very little pull and glide on this one. My camera rig pretty much dictates that I use two hands with it so I didn’t get to pull much. We had thought about just going up to the top of the cave where flow is significantly less but the boys wanted a challenge. They said we couldn’t make it to keyhole in the flow because we are “too old”. It was tough but we got a free lunch out of it. 😎
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves ha! That's great!!
great footage, I'm not cave certified so haven't done this but maybe one day. Just an observation, and everyone has an opinion, but it seems the diver in front of you would be better served by a frog kick in those tighter areas. The flutter stirs up the bottom, and wears you out quicker. Of course you all probably already know that, is the frog kick just not strong enough to propel you against that current?
You are spot on with regard to the flow in the tighter areas. It was INTENSE on this particular day. If you look again, even in the larger areas the flow was insane. To your point, normally he would be frog kicking. The flutter kick can really screw up a cave divers day if used improperly. If you have time to check our latest video “What is a Silt Out?”, we do a few flutter kicks when we turn our dive to show how bad things can get, very quickly.
Thank you for taking the time to share some of your day with us and for the gracious comments.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves ty for the reply. If you guys keep cave diving these springs, you might need to get some DPV's to help you along!
@@FFAdventuresOriginal it’s definitely on the table. We are saving for a few.
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I came from dive talk! I live in Albuquerque New Mexico not much diving opportunities around here lol. I'm working on quitting smoking and getting a bit healthier you're so that I can get my certification eventually and overcome my fear of open water.
Keep up the amazing work and the great content
i smoked when i started diving i didnt quit until i started doing decompression diving
@@jintermont thank you so much for taking time out of your day to watch, and thank you for your thoughts and encouragement. It really means a great deal to us. Keep in mind that you can start diving at any point pretty much. I was 330lbs when I started diving and Paul was a smoker AND was close to 325lbs when he started. I don’t know what locations you have that you can learn to dive in, but here in Florida there are MANY options that are very peaceful and less than 30ft deep. It really takes away the fear of being eaten by a shark or other ominous creature. If you ever plan a 4 day getaway to Florida, you can get certified on a weekend. You will fall in love with it.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves And thank you for taking time out of your day to reply to me! That's awesome yeah the only time I've been to Florida was to visit my ex in laws lol. I used to be 300 pounds but I've lost a good deal I'm down to about 222 now, I had just always heard that smoking and diving was a major nogo. Yeah there's a couple dive places here in Albuquerque but it's all pretty much pool training there's really not too much here The Rio Grande is way too murky and just doesn't seem like it would be a good divePretty much the only other thing I really know of other than a few lakes here is there is the blue hole in Santa Rosa which is where Mike young lost his dive buddy a couple of years ago. But yeah I would love to be able to get over my fear of the open water and the unknown lol.
@@overcash007 just subbed to you also.
I hesitate to comment at the risk of sounding critical, but Diver 3 needs to work on his buoyancy control and propulsion techniques. Take a look at, e.g. 9:25, 10:13, 11:24, 16:34 - he should only be using a frog kick and staying off the bottom to avoid kicking up silt. If you were in most other caves and didn't have the volume of flow carrying the silt away, the amount of silt he kicks up could result in the cave being so silted up that you wouldn't be able to see your way back out. It would also make it impossible for anyone else to dive the cave until the silt settled back down....
It sounds like you’re a fellow cave diver. If you know Ginnie and The Devils Ear then you will understand the deviation from the Frog kick for some. The flow is always pretty solid and his knee was giving him a bit of trouble so the flutter was not a problem. But, to your point, we would have passed on the dive that day if it had been Peacock or most other systems. Silt is not a problem in the first parts of Ginnie. I’m not sure if you were able to hear the part explaining his leg issue.
We normally swim at the top of the Ear where flow is considerably less.
Thank you for watching and for commenting. It’s important to let non-divers know that you are 100% correct in your assessment. We did realize he would not be in perfect form that day, and Ginnie is much more forgiving than almost any other system when it comes to your observations.
Be well and dive safe Sun Tzu
haha had i waited i would have had my answer
We found that the Amazon lights are MUCH better when positioned furthest from the camera and the OrcaTorch lights are perfect for the camera rig.
What was your max depth ? 🤔
If you mean during this particular dive, it was 72’. My max depth is classified, as my instructor may be reading this and I also don’t want to encourage people to do the dumb things we used to do.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves 🤣🤣👍🏼 thank you , was just curious how deep you guys went in this dive .
You should make another video to troll Dive Talk by acting like total yahoos
We have something in mind. 😉
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves haha awesome
Try scooters! Change ur life!
Ehren has been saving for a DPV, so it is definitely in our future. He has a blast every time he gets to use someone else’s. Those thing pull a LOT faster than it looks.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves check out the black tip! Uses dewalt drill batteries, entire kit is much cheaper and it will get ya to the henkle no problem! I'd love to take ya on a devils scooter ride that's my jam!
@@azdeatherage black tips are great. I think Dive X is also capable of using the DeWalt batteries as well.
As soon as we get the DPV Cave cert we will join you. Ginnie requires it.
@@FoundInTheRiverAndCaves sounds good my dude. Nice to meet ya I'm brian
@@azdeatherage thank you Brian! I am Mark, my son is Ehren. Our dive buddies are Paul and Nick, who you also see in the Ginnie video.