Unique Shop Tools - Revealed Vol. 1
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- This video covers the multiple answers for each tool based on viewer guesses. I'll also cover the intended use. You're going to like them.
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Joe.
Although I'm a hobby machinist, so many of your approaches to your craft are valuable for even a guy like me.
I love my career (aviation) but somehow my gut tells me I really should have been a machinist.
Thank you for your time and effort Joe. It is immensely appreciated!
Cheers from the Canadian Arctic.
Thanks for watching.
I was right...I looked at that for two minutes and came to the conclusion that Joe was going to have a a really creative use that I wouldn't guess in a million years. Sure enough, I never would have guessed this.
That gage block squeeze solves so many setup problems. Just don't tighten the vise initially.
Joe, I want to thank you for the time you spend on these videos to help educate some of us beginners. The time and effort you put in to them is greatly appreciated. I've never worked in a machine shop or ever had any formal training in the trade, I took it up as a hobby a couple years ago and I've learned more from you in the last year than I ever thought possible. Your method of teaching from the greaseboard theory to the actual hands on is the best by far. Thank you, my friend!!
Comments like this one keep my desire to keep going strong. Thank you for taking the time to leave it.
@@joepie221 Not a problem Sir!
Great tips, techniques and instruction as always. Even with my CNC mill I can think of applications where it would be nice to jog over and plant a marker on a part before I mill away all of the easy to indicate references. I was thinking double stick for placing them on the table as well but I really like the idea of a little leg off of the bushing. You could come down and place it. Then with rod still in place, rotate it until the leg is under a toe clamp and lock it down. That was fun. Thanks so much for the shout out! (Pronounced like Panda with a 'T').
@Jim Alley Hahaha I'm just learning, always learning. Watching Joe's videos are a great way to learn more and get the wheels turning.
You seem pretty sharp, yourself :-) And, sharp enough to watch Joe, says a lot ;-)
Thanks for your guesses. You are obviously a thinker as well as a maker, and I like it when you comment. I hope your channel gets some traffic from the mention. Take care.
@@lohikarhu734 I'm guessing Joe's audience self selects to be life long learners and pretty bright folks.
@@joepie221 The thought of someone actually watching my videos has definitely inspired me to do a much better job of making them! I got on a kick last year of just recording what I was doing in the shop and posting it without much production value.
Creativity of use of machinist’s accessories provided it provides the correct result is the innovation of manual machining. Never stop thinking.
You have solved many machine problems for me during the last 2 years, thanks
You're welcome.
A modern version of toolmakers buttons! Brilliant.
Now you can do a video on how to make the second one!
that may be a good topic. Thanks John.
I'd like to see that also....I pondered somewhat on how to fabricate it and came up "tilt" ..not a clue!
@@joepie221 I was also wondering how you made that tool and would love to see a video on that topic.
Brilliant. I love seeing little fixtures and indicators like that. Gives me ideas. Would love to see more.
Joe Pi, i love your content, i'm the guy that mentioned the buck chuck many months ago.. i'm impressed by the way you've shown the way to eliminate the burr on a top mill situation. man i have been machning for the last 30 years.and i still learn from you. L.C.
I'm sure we can all learn from each other.
Fascinating uses. I enjoyed this exercise quite a bit. Very creative audience! Thanks all! Congrats Tanda!
Thanks!
Love it.
A lot of things that aren’t taught or demonstrated this day and age. Also weren’t taught 28 years ago when I started.
Thank You Joe!!!!👍👍🙏🇺🇸
Wow Joe, I have to rate this as one of your BEST Video's.
Thank you
Thank you. I hope some of you guys remember the content. They work well.
Great video and great tools. It took me a while to understand the vise alignment, as I kept thinking that just a sized rod in the mill would allow a known offset from the center-line. It was obvious that your alignment tool allow setting the vise jaw on zero or very small offsets using gauge blocks. My big aha moment came when I realized that not only do you get an offset, but you put the vise jaw on the tangent line of the offset perfectly. Without your teaching effort I don't think I would have figured it out.
Joe - that rod-block center finder looks very useful - could you make a video showing how to make one?
He has them in his store and doesn't cost much. I have a 3d printed one, and works great.
Modern day tool makers button without the screw hole. Brilliant!!
Joe... as always a fantastic job at showing that a lot of head scratcher ( how am I going to do this without getting a headache) can be done so easily with a guiding hand !!!
Would've named something dear to me after you if I was an apprentice under you...
Just can't put into words how graceful so many of your simple ( wrong adjective) tools are !!!
My favorite one is the lathe center height because of its simplicity !!!
Thank you for taking on the challenge of sharing your many years of experience so the less savvy folk ( like me ) can make it through a day without resetting up just to make sure we are on the money !!!
Ohh one last thing.... wish where I work was as clean as your shop
Thanks Joe, love watching your videos👍🏻!
Wish I had a teacher like you in the early days, that would have saved me a lot of time...
Best wishes from the Netherlands!
Thank you for the video Joe I miss working with metal. I've told you before I'm very very sick I have really super super rare condition and unable to get that big paycheck anymore I had to settle for a Chinese Mill but at least I bought a great big one. It's actually pretty accurate in the linear horizontal Direction I was quite impressed but as far as speed goes in needs to be converted to belt driven in my opinion and it's really not worth it at this point. I've been away from metal for about 8 months now because I've been messing with Pottery just for therapeutic reasons but I need to get back out into my shop. I got to the point where I made a pretty decent set of accurate tools for myself and I was able to make a new compound slide for an old Logan lathe and it turned out real nice.
At any rate I appreciate your videos a lot because you talk to people of all skill levels in you make videos like this that explained extremely extremely handy Concepts. I have a 8 inch rotary table myself and figuring out things like this is the hardest part but that helps a great deal. I would really love to see you make a nice toolmakers vise step by step that would be exceptionally handy especially for me personally because I think I'm going to do that if I can get back out there. If the weather ever warms up in Michigan at least LOL
Nice. The bushings are very similar to toolmaker's buttons, minus all the tappity-tap-tap and micrometer readings.
Joe, Thanks for the rotary table alignment tool. Worth every penny! I have not tried the alignment rod and bushing idea as yet, but it's next on my list.
Use a stationary reference rail too and life really gets easier.
You continue to amaze me Joe. Even though it’s way over my head the way you explain the application and process is clear and easy to understand. Thank you... 👍👍👍
Thanks for watching.
Hey joe great stuff again. As a. Skilled automotive machinist i love to watch your videos to learn more of the i guess you would say a true tool and die machinist Your knowledge is unbelievably vast and incredible most people today have no idea how much knowledge and skill you need to be in the machinist trade , the trade is one of many hands on skills you do not get paid enough for today hence not many people get in the trades. Thank god for you and others on you tube sharing your knowledge and passion for the trade .. I truly appreciate your time and put your tips to good use in my shop. If you ever have an open house let me know i would love come down to Austin and check out your shop . i thought your sound quality is fine im watching to learn im in shops all the time so no bother to me and 18 dislikes are probably liberals that think we ( the usa ) do not need know skill trades its a waste of time nobody wants to do it. Anyway THANKs !! Keep the vids coming 🇺🇸
Thank you for the video. You have a great gift in teaching and explaining how to use your tools that you make. I always enjoy how you explain how things work .
Thank you.
Ahh so close with the super glue idea. Love this series can’t wait for more. Definitely could have used that idea a few times could have saved a lot of time finding the center of a radial feature. Always made a sub plate and drilled and reamed holes for locator dowel pins. Don’t use rotary tables very much since I use cnc now. Definitely can apply this idea for other uses. Love the creativity!
For an old timer, I am enjoying your videos immensely, learn a lot of short cuts.
Thank you for spending the time for a great education.
John
Every time I watch this channel my list of tools to make gets longer
It's a good day when you learn tricks like that. Cheers.
No center hole....no problem.
Very creative and useful bits of kit. I will have to remember those. May come in handy if the CNC mill is tied up with a job.
Hi Joe, I have recently started watching your videos and have found them very useful. I have learnt a lot from them. Thanks very much. Colin, Nottingham. (Robin Hood County) England.
Thanks for tuning in. I appreciate it. Those alignment tools are normally available on my website, but currently in production for the next release.
Superb! Many thanks for explaining their intended use, you've opened my eyes!
Very useful but I've forgotten most of what I've just learnt, I need to try this out so it works better in my head
Thanks for sharing more of your very helpful tips and tricks!
12/29/2021
So, what I am taking away from this video is; for a certain use you create a tool, but for every intended use there is at least one other use for it.
Also the more creative you are the more uses you can find. So, never ever discard a proprietary tool, fixture, or jig, because you may find another use for it, or even as a prototype for a marketed tool, just like every tool out there once was.
Cool mind pricking video. ;-)
'There is no exactly' - how true! I am trying to train my woodworking friends (who are prone to say 'exactly' or 'spot on') to say 'within tolerance'...
You are one clever dude Joe - love these ideas. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Chris. I told my wife if we ever get on "SURVIVOR", we will have ceiling fans and running water at the end of the first week. Just kidding..........3 days max.
Mr. Pie,
A doughnut with no hole is a danish...
As always, awsome vid!
it's a variation on toolmaker's buttons but with tape instead of screws. Great idea!
Very helpful, very interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Awesome! These should be 101 tools!
Joe,
I am just a hobbyist and in no way apply the title “machinist” to what I do. Given that, your knowledge and expertise is far above my own.
However, I never cease to learn from your presentations. Thanks for sharing what you know.
Thanks for watching.
Joe, quality gauge blocks are polished so flat that they stick together without magnetism if you wipe them and "wring" them together. Nobody knows why they stick together, but they do. I would be surprised if those Mitutoyo blocks don't.
It was a joke, and these certainly stick when clean.
Henry Ford had a personal set of gauge blocks that were reportedly the finest in the entire world. I have seen them myself. The set is on display at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn MI.
It s cohesion between these flat Surfaces which holds rhem together , no vacuum ,no suction
@@kgee2111 made by the inventor, C.E. Johansson, which is why they're also called "Jo blocks".
Ford was so impressed he bought the company from Johansson
Interesting video Mr. Pie! Thank you my friend, cheers, Doug
Great demonstration, cant help but think of various opportunities for use. Thanks, great stuff as usual.
Great stuff, thanks so much for taking the time & sharing.
Thank you Joe! I always learn something new from you! Ands thank you for the in depth explanation for us new guys and I'm old and retired !
GREAT TUTORIAL!! Always enjoy your projects as well, keep up the informative tips and how too's
Thanks, will do!
Ha Ha, you were right , there is now two flat spots on my forehead. Thanks !
First of all I enjoy all of your videos, and would like to suggest another method of finding a radius center without having a bore to a hole in the workpiece.
You can use plumbing epoxy (Oatey) put in the rough location of the center line, then pick up your datums, once you are at the location of the radius centerline then put a bore into the epoxy. This can then be used to locate the centerline on the rotary table.
After you have finished m/c'd the radius, simply take a piece of brass or aluminum to knock of the epoxy.
Did you make it to the brass button part?
Yes I did, while both methods work just as well I tend to use the epoxy method, as it saves a little bit of set up time.
I just watched one of your videos re. small hole drilling in stainless, and wonder if you have ever used Rocol RTD compound as a cutting fluid. It is similar to mollasses therefore sticks to the tool. Any time I have to drill and /or tap any stainless this is my preference. Once you use it you will never use anything again.
If you cannot find it let me know and I will send you some.
The simplest ideas can also be the most complex 👌. 👏👏👍😀
Wonderful tool ideas and explanations. I guess I have my work cut out for me. These videos often cost me money, this time it's only time...
hmm, if only I had a grinder to make things like that center finder. I was pretty close with the uses I thought of, I think that cutting the rectangular portion in half so it had two perpendicular faces meeting on center would make locating the corner of a vise on the mill table a one step process, no offsets. If you are going to be using it for offsets it doesn't really matter, you are doing math anyway, but in the single use case of locating the corner of the vise the double-zero version would be a lot simpler, less moving pieces and no secondary adjustments.
Of course locating the corner of a vise is a lot less useful if, like me, you still don't have a DRO. I don't trust myself to count turns repetitively, and find myself using the edge finder just to be sure.
Awesome stuff !! Cant wait to give a try myself. Always look forward to next one !!
Same principle. It will kick in the direction of deflection.
All of those ideas were very clever.
Thanks. That alignment tool makes rotary table work a breeze.
To align the tailstock to the spindle :
Align the quill (locked position) of the tailstock parallel to the bed-ways in 2 axis, by shimming, grinding or scraping, using an indicator.
Once the tailstock quill is parallel to the bed, attach a test indicator to the headstock-spindle and rotate the spindle with indicator stylus on the quill.
Adjust accordingly (by the earlier method) till the axis of the quill is co-axial to the headstock spindle.*
*This method assumes the spindle is aligned in both axis to the bed also.
Or, get a Hardinge HLV-H Tool Room Lathe.
My opinion....First is to indicate only the surfaces contributing to a setup or location. That means the actual contact areas. The tips of the centers, or the ID of the tailstock spindle, not the outside. Second...mimic the actual setup as closely as possible for a setup analysis. If the part is going between centers, check the machine between centers. sweeping a tailstock like you have described is OK to a point, but a slight angular variation in the headstock centerline to the tailstock will show up as an eliptical track and look very close to perfect. Plus, if the centerline has an angular error, it just gets worse as the part length increases. Oh, thumbs up on the hardinge. But I haven't seen them used for much between center work.
I was in the tool height camp... no cigar, good thing I don't smoke :) The actual use is pretty handy.
Your Videos are AMAZING!!! Thank you so much, I love your the knowledge, experience, and style! Excellent👍👍
I appreciate that!
On 12:35 if you put your machine in a high gear (or free spinning )and turn the block 90° you can put your cutting edge under it and bump it up until it gets aligned and then tighten it .That way you would get you a center without need for parallel indication.
I had exact idea couple years ago but i never had tool's to make it.
Ball bearing on a stick(keep moving in untill it starts to rotate ,good thing is put vertical line on it) makes a good poor man's center finder as well.Another way is caveman's adding a peace of paper on edge and then move cutter close until it starts to tear it,measure thickness of paper and you are near edge.Works well for fast setup on a non critical part.
zumbazumba1 ur right, by eye is good enuff!
You just have to tell people how to do their job..?
Wow I bet you are difficult to work with ..!
Steve Attree steve, i didnt even read his comment! lol i just said, your right , by eye is good enuff!
Thanks again Joe ;I love "the guess what it is used for "game.
Hey Joe: That is slicker than ship.
Wow! This is a huge amount of practical information. Thanks!
There were some good guesses.
You need not indicate flat the block centering tool (in the lathe to set tool height). With the block approximately horizontal, make rough tool height adjustment. Turn block approximately vertical. Set the cross-slide so the tool tip is at the edge of the block. You have approximately centered it front/back. Turn block approximately horizontal. Now the tool height can be accurately set because the tool is right on-center of the block front-back. Tilt will matter little. You have "diluted" the error twice!
Yep, this is a must have tool. Waiting by the 'mailbox' I am!
Joe, another incredibly cool and informative video. I however, am going to come back and watch it again in about 5 years. Right now I think I am more like at the “kindergarten” level of machining, and you just demonstrated “advanced functions and calculus”, lol. That said, the first one, I think I actually followed about 75%. The second, well, not so much, more like a solid 20%. I really look forward to a time when all of this makes sense. For the time being I’m going stick to flying airliners. My best as always. Cheers.
Great video Joe. I really like how you are able to find so many uses for simple tools. This is exactly the kind of educational channel people want to see. Keep up the good work sir! And this video answered the question I posted on the last video, so thanks for that! Got another one for you...say you had a slitting saw in a .5” arbor in the spindle, a 7/16 radiused part mounted vertically between two 90deg angle plates, and you wanted to cut serrations closely together both horizontally and vertically, how do you measure the correct offset for a certain depth of cut? I can send you photos etc if you need more detail regarding the setup.
I could give you a simple answer, but I have to give you the real answer. As you will find, many slitting saws, runout when mounted. That means you wouldn't get a true (for example 1.5" dia saw) 1.5" wide slot if you passed it completely through a part. Put a test piece in your vise with a flat surface position vertically. Find that surface with your edge finder and zero out your table. Zero your dials or digital. Move the table off the part and install your cutter. Slowly creep back towards the vertical surface until the cutter scratches the face. Check your dials or DRO to get your working radius. Use this number to determine the depth of your cut based on the part and setup. Is this headed in the right direction??
I would stand back a few feet or meters..... line my thumb up with the part... nod my head ,and off to inspection it goes !!
Hi Joe, that bench dog looking thing was awesome (didn't really think it was one honest). I so have a load to learn but I think I have the best teachers out there! TFS n Best Regards G :)
As always nice explanation, thank you.
As always Joe, great videos big eye openers. You get me started to see the possibilities.
Hello Joe Very very clever ! what else might you have in your mystery tool box . Thanks Joe
Hi Joe is it possible for you to show us an example of how you use the 2nd tool to help cut a radial feature? I would like to see the cutting in action on how it works if you dont mind. I am the type that i need to see the picture or the physical feature to understand it 100%.
I will shoot that, but bear in mind, its a setup tool and not actually a cutting tool. Its such a time saver.
@@joepie221 yup i understand. just would like to see how you would set up the radius and cut it. Thanks!
Great video. Simple can be so elegant.
Thank you Joe. More great tools. Instead of magnetic gage blocks this would be a perfect application of Space Blocks. (KBC Tools, part # 8-412-001, $112.00 Canadian, probably half that from their American site). But you would need to have a 6mmx1.0 hole drilled and tapped in the face before it was ground. Thanks again, I have many Joe Pie inspired tools in my box.
Very good video Joe. I learned a few new tricks. Thanks
Thanks for another smart tutorial! We love them Joe!
OMG.....That was sooooo easy, I should have gotten it..........NOT!!!!!!.........Ha! Ha! I am sure you never sleep at night
thinking of all these ideas.
Great video Joe- very innovative ideas, well thought out.
damn joe, you always blow my mind with your crazy machinist wizard skills...
Thats what 47 years of prototype and repair work will get ya. Passion helps too. Thanks.
that's got to be part of it, but I still think your a machinist wizard lol.... I really enjoyed this new mystery tool series, it was a good brain teaser and it was awesome to see outside the box thinking of old school manual machining. all the machines I have are manual, so seeing these techniques gives me more options of things I can build until I get a CNC machine lol... looking forward to the next video :) thanks joe.
When using the second tool to set lathe tool height, I'd sneak up against the bottom surface of the tool using a level on top would be precise enough. Even with out indicating.
Maybe your best vid so far!
Thanks. It was a bit different format.
Could you put up a link/card to the original video? I do want to watch it first, but can't find it
ruclips.net/video/Zlx5jUhiaE4/видео.html enjoy
Excellent. as always. Thank you
I have now seen a few videos you have on rod and block alignment tool. I can see this is an exceptionally handy tool to have. I see that you produce these are your shop; is this your own invention? If so, I would like to say, very well done!
Thank you very much. It was designed here, and its quite popular. It really helps take the fuss out of setting a part or vise on a rotary table for a specific radius. Quick and accurate.
Excellent as always.
Thank you for your excellent explanation.
I am NOT a machinist, but a wannabe machinist. I am 66 and have had chronic to chronic severe pain and Fibromyalgia since I was 20-21 years old. The brain fog aspect(like when you have a bad head cold/sinus infection and sleep deprived) along with 2 meds(Neurontin and Duloxetene) now being taken for a number of years for nerve pain and depression related to the syndrome as it is NOT considered a disease really screw with the brain’s 2 dimensional and used to have 3dimensional mechanical visualization of mechanical problem solving ability that I once had. With that said I learn better with visualization technical drawings and reading than reading alone and of late it’s like I need to be the one doing something all the way through seeing the results as they happen and the final product such as actually making something to get stuff like this really processed by the analytical aspect portion of my brain. I know these videos by Joe already take quite some time and he does a great job. But, like a lot of machinist related videos especially those that are not in English so you only have the video snipits of the item as something is being made and your brain is like ok what is he doing. Where if they had shown a physical end product before starting the activity my brain does much better at connecting the dots of what and why things are being done. Still a very good video but I’m kinda like the hillbilly that was challenged to eat a huge watermelon and immediately disappeared and returned a short while later to accept the challenge as the challenger asked the hillbilly well why did you leave and the hillbilly answered well I had a watermelon at home a bit bigger than that one and I knew if I could eat it could eat the one you had so I went home to eat it to see if I would be able to eat this one. Not realizing how little physical sense his actions made to already have a belly full of a larger watermelon only to return and accept the challenge the hillbilly still won the challenge and had basically eaten two or more times the amount of watermelon in the challenge. Yeah, I know it don’t make sense in this analysis but sometimes it’s as a coworker used to say “same thing only different” when he realized his verbal description of what he wanted to and knew he could do made little sense compared to the description given by a lifetime learned skill technical engineer describing it he would say “Same thing only different”. And, he had a Bachelors degree in engineering but far less actual real world/hands on experience than a hands on learned technical(non-degreed) engineer in the same field.
I get it. Thats why I try to mix up the presentations with white board and hands on. Not everybody absorbs input the same. I'm a very visual person but like to know the 'why' behind what's going on.
Oh...non-trackable features...that was totally my next guess. 😉
I call those "One Way Parts". You'll see why.
Who knew...good to know.👍
Great video, thanks Joe.
Joe, The 12 minute mark looks like a modern self adhesive take on traditional Tool Makers Buttons.
Checked out Tanda's channel. She is building some cool stuff.
always learning thanks
I use that same tape. How are you getting the glue off after use? I’ve tried acetone, WD-40, and Goo Gone with various levels of success.
Razor blade and isopropyl alcohol.
We, I was sort of right on the second tool. Whilst how you made the first tool is obvious I would like to know how you made the second.
Thanks for a great channel and sharing your knowledge!
Sweet, there really is no limits other than your imagination! Cheers Joe
These bushings are pretty much an easier to use toolmakers button.
Extremely cool indeed 😎👏👏🇺🇸👍! I knew that you had to be from Texas! 😃👍👍🇺🇸
I live in Texas, I'm from New Jersey.
Another great video. Thanks for sharing
As usual...Always good stuff. Thanks again.
Joe you need to fix your audio when at the whiteboard. You rock
Don't put a tapered plug in the center hole of the rotary table unless you want it hard stuck in there.
It can easily be removed once the rotary table is off the mill table.
@@joepie221 I meant without taking the table off and ruining a setup
drill and tap, then just use a pull hammer
Machine the taper on the locating plug and then relieve most of the taper, leaving just short sections at the top and the bottom - axial location and concentricity is not affected, but the plug should be easy to extract as there is little frictional contact . . . .
Hi Joe, i purchased the rotary tool aligniment tool from you and wanted to ask about the set up you have on the precision vice, where can i purchased the machined rod from...any ideas
I'd be happy to answer. Can you site a time in the video where you saw it?