It makes sense how Jimmy knew about The Townies hideout in the beta, because in The Gym Is Burning, you have to chase the pyromaniac and he goes there and then fights you.
idk why they removed an important detail like that, but i guess it seems like there wasnt enough time left to fully polish bully given all the unused content left behind and it might had been a miracle that it came out in the first place.
Another detail about Gurney in Complete Mayhem, he's the only townie who runs STRAIGHT for the Girls Dorm, so it does kinda still line up with his dialogue about girls. And since he is still hostile toward Jimmy in that mission despite having 100 respect with townies, it kinda shows off detail how he is more a psychopath who's only helping Jimmy because Edgar said so.
6:49 - in the I've seen Zoe as a townie in Blue Skies in the Anniversary Edition and yes she is hostile towards Jimmy even after completing Smash It Up.
@AnarchyBurger True. They do appear there the most. It's kind of like at night when you're at the boys dorm and you see Peanut egging the building more than any other greaser.
I kinda wish they made a chapter where Gary joins the townies clique and convinces them to turn of Jimmy. It would give the townies more screen time and we could maybe get to see a little bit of every other clique in that chapter. I feel like Pete and Russell will be at their peak in this chapter because they're Jimmy's closest allies and it will also take place during the summer, maybe Jimmy could connect with his new step father in the first couple of missions before Gary starts raining havoc.
I know they’re not a clique but I feel the Bullworth faculty were quite underused as well, since classes can completed fairly early in the story and staff rarely appear in free roam at all. I think the staff could have been used for way more side missions or even assigning Jimmy detention tasks. Are you doing to do an analysis on the other cliques as well?
frankly I can think of the perfect way to introduce Edgar as the townie leader: during the mission 'preppies vandalized' after Jimmy takes the photo of the burning trophies, there could have been a cutscene where Edgar and a few other townies find Jimmy at his spot on the docks; Edgar would introduce himself and then threaten Jimmy in a typical townie fashion before sicking his townie friends on Jimmy and fleeing because 'some snot nosed school kid ain't worth his time', this would lead to Jimmy having to fight his way out of the docks and he'd find out who Edgar was before confronting him at the plant.
@@bobheld7940 I think in beta clint's mission was like rudy the red nosed santa's mission and Its suppost to be like this 1.mailbox armagedon 2.the collector 3.making a mark(because in beta clint play a little role in this mission and be friendly with jimmy) thats what I think
im honestly suprised that a townie like Duncan (or any townie honestly) would be afraid of a bully. really the bullies are technically the weakest group and the townies are the strongest. Duncan should have easily whooped Davis
It may be that, since he was a bit of a nerd and bullied (maybe weak at the time as well), then he dropped out into the rough area and changed him into a more tougher person.
I'm pretty sure Duncan was a nerd when he was a student in Bullworth since he mentioned the Gremlins game. But then dropped out from school due to constant bullying, particularly from Davis and he'd gone crazy
You'd be surprised how with the right stuff you can practically find alot of hidden things in games especially in Rockstar. Fun fact did you know that there was orginally going to be horses in gta 5?
@@Hussain_144 That and also I think there was going to be another heist where you rob a rich couple house. Which needed to use clown shoes that are still in the game.
@@someguyparagon5273 Yeah, you were going to rob Martin Madrazo's house. That's the guy you pissed off at the beginning of game after you destroyed a house he owned by taking it down with a truck wench because he thought it was the cheating tennis coach's house.
There definitely should have been more focus put on Zoe considering she's basically Jimmy's 'best girl' who he actually likes, and isn't just a stepping stone like the other Bullworth girls. Pinky is one of my favourite girls cause we actually spend time with her and she approaches Jimmy who she actually likes and cheers him on during boxing. And adding the fact you go on an actual date with her, she truly feels like a girlfriend to Jimmy. Zoe definitely should have gotten more missions and screentime than Pinky considering how much Jimmy likes her.
being completely honest, if Gurney in free roam was as dangerous as he was in The Gym is Burning, I can just imagine him being the leader of the Townies. Just imagine Gurney as a very dangerous and psychopathic character, leading a gang of vicious criminal kids that hate the Bullworth kids, maybe then the Townies could've been really fantastic antagonists
Pretty interesting all this stuff about the characters. Didn't know majority of this stuff. Duncan and Davis is quite the sad and more realistic one; Duncan probably hating the school, due to Duncan being a victim of bullying from Davis.
So apparently there's a minor Bully reference on the new RDR Online update. One of the people you need to catch during the Bounty Hunting missions is named "Meredith Hopkins". This isn't anything major but it's interesting to see how during a time of Bully 2 hype R* decided to give a fugitive not only the main character's last name but in the description it said she shot a boy for trespassing. This may be reaching idk what do you think?
the Townies were meant to be in new coventry before the greasers before they did blue skies and moved them there the townies were rushed and unfinished
Zoe is actually seen in free roam.. Chapter III Because of a winter attire around Blue Skies. (Obviously you can't enter do to a road jam). And she is around Blue Skies just after her missions... The problem is it's a very "delicate" small window of time. Like before Complete Mayhem. Was Otto possibly the one who was flirting with Lola?
An odd fact is that even if you mod the townie outfit of Zoe to free roam with ide, in chapter 6, something unknown prevents her from spawning (same with Hattrick). Doesn't happen with anyone else apart from these two.
I feel like if the Townies had little side missions in the previous chapters than they could've been better. Especially if we saw Bullworth students, especially the Bullies and the Greasers who torment the Townies the most, were shown to treat them horribly, then we probably would get more insight to why they did what they did in Chapter 5.
The townies are the reason why the school got destroyed Setting up the gym on fire Putting rats in library Sending Johnny to Asylum Stealing the preppies trophies burning them and putting rats in it
Very good video, but the only thing I found was wrong is when you said "Zoe appears after the story is complete. I've seen Zoe talking to other Townies after the mission "Revenge on Mr. Burton" is complete.
Is there any known reason as to why Rockstar split the planned Punks clique into the Bullies and Townies, two underdeveloped cliques that play little to no role in the game compared to the others? Considering that the Townies have a hideout, a female member and even a school dodgeball team (things the Bullies lack), it seems like it was a last minute decision made late in development and the Bullies were added to pad the game and make use of extra characters like Russell.
I think Edgar means his prospects are limited due to not attending Bullworth Academy and he'll be stuck in his part of the Bullworth town for life more figuratively than literally.
I actually like the Townies' personalities in free roam gameplay more than in the story/missions. Clint isn't just a deranged skinhead in his quotes; he's still mean and violent, but he shows a more wisecracking, con artist schemer vibe when you hear his quotes in-game. Same goes for Jerry, Leon, Gurney etc. It's a lot more interesting than just them being the crazy clique in my opinion.
Jimmy was kind of a townie before bullworth, im not into bully lore, but i think in collector, jimmy called clint his friend, also when i wore the orange shirt, one of the townies said " nice shirt jimmy."
Chapter 5 should’ve been broken up into two chapters, because it feels like there was a lot to cover in it, the sudden introduction of the Townies being one such thing.
You can meet Edgar before you even complete The Setup. Once you complete Gym 5 you can play dodgeball against The Preppies Greasers Jocks and Townies and Edgar is one of the Townies. That's it
Yes, but they’re still used throughout the course of the story. Russell becomes Jimmy’s right hand man. Every clique is in a way underused, but the bullies were actually more involved than the others
@@clursunny storywise they could have played a unique role as they're the only neutral Clinques in the game as they do not have a clinque which could have played a role in the story heck maybe even have a mission from one of the Non-Clique students
Because Townies aren't a gang/clique they're all just street kids drop outs. It could be punks, hip hop, thugs, skaters or whatever outsider. they have all different personalities. Unlike the jocks who obviously all athletics, the nerds who like video games and D&D, Preps the rich kids and Greasers who just cares about cars and hair gel. Townies are like bullies they're everywhere except bullies are studying and townies are drop outs.
The jocks are overrated when it comes to strength the townies are the strongest and they were introdiced very late to the game edgar is the most underrated clique leader also zoe does spawn in free roam after smash it up
Not really overrated by any meam. They are legit strong. They're just bad written and bad programmed considering how rushed Bully was with a massive cut content they have. So we can say after ch3, it was completely rushed
@@widerspacefanz4316 but townies actually use weapon combined with the aggressive fighting style they have they can do a blietzkrieg through a solid wall of the jocks
I always assumed Clint having two names was a play on his insanity, like he has two different personalities or something.
i pretend that clint's full name is henry clint
@@weirdface1846 thank you for that one
maybe in free roam he called henry
in cutsence an missions he called clint
I used to think it was because his name was Henry Clint.
Clint is his surname
Considering the only characters in that clique that were even remotely developed were Edgar and Zoe i think this is pretty accurate
Yeah the only members who names i do remember are those 2 and for the rest of the gang... uh I got nothing.
@@someguyparagon5273 Clint too
@@mooingsage8138 clint is a side townie lol
he has missions yes but he's a side character
@@weirdface1846 what do you mean by side townie he is a member of a townie
The anarchist symbols make a lot of sense if you think about that there were supposed to be punks in the game.
AnarchyBurger You’re reaching dude.
that is true. Cut content lore and I seen Swegta's videos
@AnarchyBurger Hold The Government
I feel like the townies should've played a bigger role in the game
Bullies and Townies is the most underused clique
rockstar definitely rushed the game after chapter 3, ted was a shitty faction leader and edgar wasn't even properly introduced.
@@kamerad_marzuki3631 bullies still played their part in chapter 1. chapter 5, which is also about townies, hardly played any role
@@don_dombalak the rumble mission also felt rushed
@@weirdface1846 Bullies is hardly mentioned or involved in the later chapter except for Russell.
It makes sense how Jimmy knew about The Townies hideout in the beta, because in The Gym Is Burning, you have to chase the pyromaniac and he goes there and then fights you.
idk why they removed an important detail like that, but i guess it seems like there wasnt enough time left to fully polish bully given all the unused content left behind and it might had been a miracle that it came out in the first place.
I just beat this game for the first time on PS4 and what an experience. It’s the perfect story and the perfect setting. we need a part 2!
Anyone else really wanna hear Otto say “Fuck my life.”?
Apparently it's on early PS2 copies but even then it's rare.
@Megan Stone Do you tried it?
I never heard "Fuck" from bully
That dialog got cut, I guess
@@TheNathanNS Yeah i heard it in my bully copy on ps2.
Another detail about Gurney in Complete Mayhem, he's the only townie who runs STRAIGHT for the Girls Dorm, so it does kinda still line up with his dialogue about girls. And since he is still hostile toward Jimmy in that mission despite having 100 respect with townies, it kinda shows off detail how he is more a psychopath who's only helping Jimmy because Edgar said so.
Edgar also appears as an opponent in the dodgeball minigame.
Yeah, I wish you still can meet him in free roam even without mods
Only leader to do so
6:49 - in the I've seen Zoe as a townie in Blue Skies in the Anniversary Edition and yes she is hostile towards Jimmy even after completing Smash It Up.
Yea it’s kinda dumb how she is. I guess it’s because the devs just correlated her respect toward Jimmy with the townies respect
Bullies are also underused clique. they never appear in the main story after Chapter 1.
Actually, townies do somewhat spawn in New Coventry during the day. When you see one running around and throwing stuff at people.
@AnarchyBurger It can be any townie except Edgar.
@AnarchyBurger True. They do appear there the most. It's kind of like at night when you're at the boys dorm and you see Peanut egging the building more than any other greaser.
I see them smoking mostly.
I kinda wish they made a chapter where Gary joins the townies clique and convinces them to turn of Jimmy. It would give the townies more screen time and we could maybe get to see a little bit of every other clique in that chapter. I feel like Pete and Russell will be at their peak in this chapter because they're Jimmy's closest allies and it will also take place during the summer, maybe Jimmy could connect with his new step father in the first couple of missions before Gary starts raining havoc.
I know they’re not a clique but I feel the Bullworth faculty were quite underused as well, since classes can completed fairly early in the story and staff rarely appear in free roam at all. I think the staff could have been used for way more side missions or even assigning Jimmy detention tasks. Are you doing to do an analysis on the other cliques as well?
Dr. Crabblesmitch always knows what classes Jimmy fails. It would have been interesting for him to punish Jimmy by having him retake harder classes.
some male teachers were going to spawn in the boys' form
The townies are tough, especially when there is 17 or more ganging up on you.
There are not even 10 of them in total.
@@TheLuca2001 some of these I don't even think played bully
there are total of like 9 members in each clique in bullies its 7 i believe
the bullies female and a second-in command
@@weirdface1846 Especially that Russell was not planned as Bully leader, but as dropout/townie Leader.
@@michazmuda1477 as a Punk leader*
frankly I can think of the perfect way to introduce Edgar as the townie leader: during the mission 'preppies vandalized' after Jimmy takes the photo of the burning trophies, there could have been a cutscene where Edgar and a few other townies find Jimmy at his spot on the docks; Edgar would introduce himself and then threaten Jimmy in a typical townie fashion before sicking his townie friends on Jimmy and fleeing because 'some snot nosed school kid ain't worth his time', this would lead to Jimmy having to fight his way out of the docks and he'd find out who Edgar was before confronting him at the plant.
Doesn't jimmy meet clint for the 1st time when he needs to smash mailboxes?
i know! and he calls him his friend, they prolly played together or something before bullworth.
LilRomeo615videos Owner some people call others friends whether or not the two are actually friends.
There’s a mini mission where you compete against a Townie on a water balloon prank in the Greaser chapter
Thing is both missions spawn at the same time. I did the bike one first so it didnt make any sense.
Another thing they screwed up.
@@bobheld7940 I think in beta clint's mission was like rudy the red nosed santa's mission
and Its suppost to be like this
1.mailbox armagedon
2.the collector
3.making a mark(because in beta clint play a little role in this mission and be friendly with jimmy)
thats what I think
im honestly suprised that a townie like Duncan (or any townie honestly) would be afraid of a bully. really the bullies are technically the weakest group and the townies are the strongest. Duncan should have easily whooped Davis
It may be that, since he was a bit of a nerd and bullied (maybe weak at the time as well), then he dropped out into the rough area and changed him into a more tougher person.
The other townies might have taught him how to fight
now thinking of it duncan would have not known the townie fighting style while in school.
I'm pretty sure Duncan was a nerd when he was a student in Bullworth since he mentioned the Gremlins game. But then dropped out from school due to constant bullying, particularly from Davis and he'd gone crazy
I don't think he's afraid of that bullies anymore. More like he really have a hatred to them after he dropped out
How do You Still Found Unused Content Form A 2006 Game?
You'd be surprised how with the right stuff you can practically find alot of hidden things in games especially in Rockstar.
Fun fact did you know that there was orginally going to be horses in gta 5?
@@someguyparagon5273 Yes You Can Actually See The Horse In TV
@@Hussain_144
That and also I think there was going to be another heist where you rob a rich couple house. Which needed to use clown shoes that are still in the game.
@@someguyparagon5273 Yeah, you were going to rob Martin Madrazo's house. That's the guy you pissed off at the beginning of game after you destroyed a house he owned by taking it down with a truck wench because he thought it was the cheating tennis coach's house.
By looking. Bully has an insane amount of cut content and a lot of it wasn't discovered until recent times, because it was hard to find.
There definitely should have been more focus put on Zoe considering she's basically Jimmy's 'best girl' who he actually likes, and isn't just a stepping stone like the other Bullworth girls. Pinky is one of my favourite girls cause we actually spend time with her and she approaches Jimmy who she actually likes and cheers him on during boxing. And adding the fact you go on an actual date with her, she truly feels like a girlfriend to Jimmy. Zoe definitely should have gotten more missions and screentime than Pinky considering how much Jimmy likes her.
Good point, Jimmy also seems to like Pinky a bit too.
I think Jimmy only mostly cares about Mandy and Zoe.
being completely honest, if Gurney in free roam was as dangerous as he was in The Gym is Burning, I can just imagine him being the leader of the Townies.
Just imagine Gurney as a very dangerous and psychopathic character, leading a gang of vicious criminal kids that hate the Bullworth kids, maybe then the Townies could've been really fantastic antagonists
Same with Damon. Could be a potential leader for Jocks, instead of Tad
@@ytgc-royalewarex5190 Damon sucks, Ted is better
So as much as I'd love to play bully 2, I'd be cool with a finished bully
Fuck, me too. If only there was some way to tell rockstar
The Townies are one of my favorite cliques, along with the Bullies and Jocks.
I hate how bosses do not spawn in free roam after completing the game
or atleast completing a chapter
Thank you for making this after your surgery !! Love this series
It's probably because of the big changes they went through in the beta. Even the bullies don't play a major role in the story outside of chapter 1
Pretty interesting all this stuff about the characters. Didn't know majority of this stuff.
Duncan and Davis is quite the sad and more realistic one; Duncan probably hating the school, due to Duncan being a victim of bullying from Davis.
Definitely one of the weirdly realistic parts of the game
Davis is a bully so thats kinda unsuprising that he used to bully Duncan because its usually a thing Davis does
Edgar too. He has a rough background and childhood
If only rockstar didnt cut one of the part in "burning in gym" where jimmy chase gurney
Then the reason how jimmy know dropout hideout will make sense
So apparently there's a minor Bully reference on the new RDR Online update. One of the people you need to catch during the Bounty Hunting missions is named "Meredith Hopkins". This isn't anything major but it's interesting to see how during a time of Bully 2 hype R* decided to give a fugitive not only the main character's last name but in the description it said she shot a boy for trespassing. This may be reaching idk what do you think?
is it me or does his voice dound better after the operation?
the Townies were meant to be in new coventry before the greasers before they did blue skies and moved them there the townies were rushed and unfinished
Really interesting stuff. Would be great If you could maybe do one with the Bullies, a non-clique in many ways.
Zoe is actually seen in free roam..
Chapter III Because of a winter attire around Blue Skies. (Obviously you can't enter do to a road jam).
And she is around Blue Skies just after her missions...
The problem is it's a very "delicate" small window of time. Like before Complete Mayhem.
Was Otto possibly the one who was flirting with Lola?
An odd fact is that even if you mod the townie outfit of Zoe to free roam with ide, in chapter 6, something unknown prevents her from spawning (same with Hattrick). Doesn't happen with anyone else apart from these two.
Edgar is only introduced at the end in beta new coventry was a townie turf
Guys I lost hope that theres going to be a bully 2. This cause of the fake leaks.. 😔
Ikr
I feel like if the Townies had little side missions in the previous chapters than they could've been better. Especially if we saw Bullworth students, especially the Bullies and the Greasers who torment the Townies the most, were shown to treat them horribly, then we probably would get more insight to why they did what they did in Chapter 5.
i do agree with this, plus townies are my overall favorite clique
The townies are the reason why the school got destroyed
Setting up the gym on fire
Putting rats in library
Sending Johnny to Asylum
Stealing the preppies trophies burning them and putting rats in it
Very good video, but the only thing I found was wrong is when you said "Zoe appears after the story is complete. I've seen Zoe talking to other Townies after the mission "Revenge on Mr. Burton" is complete.
Is there any known reason as to why Rockstar split the planned Punks clique into the Bullies and Townies, two underdeveloped cliques that play little to no role in the game compared to the others?
Considering that the Townies have a hideout, a female member and even a school dodgeball team (things the Bullies lack), it seems like it was a last minute decision made late in development and the Bullies were added to pad the game and make use of extra characters like Russell.
in beta jimmy knwos about edgar and where he is since Gurney leads him there
Love the analysis, great work as always. How was your surgery?
Went well, aside from being banned from exercising for 4 days afterwards.
Hopefully I never have to go near another hospital again for a long time.
@@TheNathanNS Glad to hear it went well, and glad you're recovering. What was the surgery for anyway?
I'd prefer not to say for now.
@@TheNathanNS That's okay, your private life is yours :)
I think Edgar means his prospects are limited due to not attending Bullworth Academy and he'll be stuck in his part of the Bullworth town for life more figuratively than literally.
I once fought the townies in chapter 2 I was very surprised because I thought you can only Fight them in chapter 5
I actually like the Townies' personalities in free roam gameplay more than in the story/missions. Clint isn't just a deranged skinhead in his quotes; he's still mean and violent, but he shows a more wisecracking, con artist schemer vibe when you hear his quotes in-game. Same goes for Jerry, Leon, Gurney etc. It's a lot more interesting than just them being the crazy clique in my opinion.
Theory
Clint (henry) is actually trevor phillips as his actions are like each other's
Jimmy was kind of a townie before bullworth, im not into bully lore, but i think in collector, jimmy called clint his friend, also when i wore the orange shirt, one of the townies said " nice shirt jimmy."
That's the problem tho, even adults in street call you jimmy.
Edgar was rushed and unfinished and added later
Hello i’m from Romania and i love Bully and i love your videos. 😎😎🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Me to!
Guess who is also from Romania?
@@lordeddy05 a da atunci șalut șalut
Care s-a jucat vreo data un joc din seria Persona ? Doar vreau sa stiu
@@andrei6834 nu m-am jucat. Ma joc Red dead si jocuri Story mai mult.
Zoe spawns in Blue skies after you complete Smash It Up at night before Complete Mayhem
Hi Nathan hope you feel better from one of your biggest fan lots of love thanks for the video Nathan from all the fans by sebastian45
Chapter 5 should’ve been broken up into two chapters, because it feels like there was a lot to cover in it, the sudden introduction of the Townies being one such thing.
Zoe is added in freeroam because shes a girlfriend story carachters do not appear in freeroam like gary petey etc
The reason why otto want our help even he is a dropouts and hate the school "He Promised to us in _Galloway Away_ to be a friend"
Nathan I love the vids I think townies should have gotten a bigger role
You can meet Edgar before you even complete The Setup. Once you complete Gym 5 you can play dodgeball against The Preppies Greasers Jocks and Townies and Edgar is one of the Townies. That's it
I've actually seen Zoe in free mode a couple times before Endless Summer. She is always hostile to Jimmy when she's a Townie.
The Bullies
Yes, but they’re still used throughout the course of the story. Russell becomes Jimmy’s right hand man. Every clique is in a way underused, but the bullies were actually more involved than the others
the factory was also added later
Pls talk about the bullies characteristycs
jerry suffered the same fate the present generation of his own father leaving him man that hit to close to home man DX
i wish townies had their own chapter like other cliques
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second time i played the game i was confused why edgar was there and kinda surprised
Wish bully 2 is out now
I was first
Who else has the same list as me for my favoruite bully cliques
(1 townies
(2jocks
(3greasers
(4bullies
(5nerds
(6preppies
On Bully AE, if you use go kart, the person you hit will break
edgar also appeared in a dodgeball mini game
Pfff think the townies have a dark personality Imagine 8 townies at the dr crabble snitches office and he beats them with a paddle
Who wants cookies--> omar
Can you do more stuff about the greasers please there my fav clique and plus I'm a greaser my self
you also see gurney and omar smoking or blowing shit up i believe at that between that bike store wheere go to race
I feel like the Non-Clique students were also very underused as they have so much potential but they never do anything with them at all
@@clursunny storywise they could have played a unique role as they're the only neutral Clinques in the game as they do not have a clinque which could have played a role in the story heck maybe even have a mission from one of the Non-Clique students
@@clursunny actually he is the school mascot and he is hard to beat when he had the mascot on
Except Constantine
Gary and Jimmy's parents disliked the video
Honestly preps got the first town chapter so that works for me lol
2:35 isn't there a rubber band in the trains area?
So I'm apart of the 4% that plays Bully on the Wii
I like bully a mature theme type of way it just fits perfectly....
BULLY is the best game ever!
Exaggerating
Your voice sounds good to to me man lol I wish you good health bruh & i fuck w your content keep up the fire videos
Townies is my favourite clique.💪👊
Hey pls make more talk about nerds the observatory
Hello there
General Kenobi!
I agree with u 😎
Because Townies aren't a gang/clique they're all just street kids drop outs. It could be punks, hip hop, thugs, skaters or whatever outsider. they have all different personalities. Unlike the jocks who obviously all athletics, the nerds who like video games and D&D, Preps the rich kids and Greasers who just cares about cars and hair gel. Townies are like bullies they're everywhere except bullies are studying and townies are drop outs.
The jocks are overrated when it comes to strength the townies are the strongest and they were introdiced very late to the game edgar is the most underrated clique leader also zoe does spawn in free roam after smash it up
Not really overrated by any meam. They are legit strong. They're just bad written and bad programmed considering how rushed Bully was with a massive cut content they have. So we can say after ch3, it was completely rushed
@@widerspacefanz4316 but townies actually use weapon combined with the aggressive fighting style they have they can do a blietzkrieg through a solid wall of the jocks
Hi
The townies always look low poly imo compared to the rest of the characters
Because they are sigma males
They don’t care about high poly and just rush to the fight
It makes no sense that the townies are in New Coventry in chapter 3 as the bridge to Blue Skies is blocked off
First