It’s not a case of limiting. Different games require different tools. That’s all. And i want his role in our transitions to change too (build up general instead of 2nd ball gobbler/driver up the pitch)
@@harveygration It is limiting. Even if we replace with a player not better than him, but different profile, we can be so much more dynamic and unpredictable. Gibbs White, Eze, Simons, Doue. I don’t think Ødegaard would be better playing deeper either. His impact zone is too limited. He excels at intricate one-twos and relies heavily on his social close proximity relationism football. We need a quicker, faster, and longer-range passer to pair with Rice. We can play Havertz at the tip of the diamond with that.
Sakas's creative bag needs to be unleashed next season, giving him complete access to the right halfspace and a consistent overlapping profile at RCM .
I just think Saka needs complete freedom on that right hand side. He's not rigid to a structure which limits him, like Pep had with Messi and now Foden. When he gets the ball he can just do what he likes and not what the manager wants, people around him adapt to him.
@@muzooraanthony6069 22/23 33 G/A, 23/24 35 G/A. Come on kid, basic analysis. Foden had 3 goals and assists against the big 6 last season, Saka had 8. Saka in the UCL had 8 goals and assists. My god 16/35 of his goals/assists were in big games.
I’m excited to see the new things Arteta implements next season. I was quite surprised to see him switch to a controlled style over the last two seasons. A combo of last two seasons will probably be the ideal scenario. Great work Harvey!
Harvey just a question, when you talk about more freedom in attack, what are your thoughts on transition inevitabilites such as the Rashfords and Leaos who don't have as much defensive work rate, is that a problem or a compromise Arsenal should take for future attackers and current ones such as Martinelli and Saka?
Defensive work ethic is something Arteta will always want in whoever he signs if we are being honest (but that is not to say that Arteta doesn’t feel like those players you mentioned cant be fixed). I think leaving a man on the last line would improve us in transition-of course-but it’s not the whole deal.
Individual fear factor, well said👍 Can you talk about our bench or rotation options, seeing that it's easier for City to rotate but harder for us especially during the run in
I could really see the progression working with Kimmich. As the RDM he could cover for White to overlap more often, allowing Saka and Ode further central. As a RCM he would allow Odegaard to solve the LCM problem and add plenty of half space crosses. All while still giving Saka and White a top passer to bounce off. Kimmich to City could also be devastating for us, similar to Rice last season.
Contrary to popular belief, I would be glad to see most of the money spent deeper once again. As an example, I would be in dream land with a window of: Hernandez/Calafiori/Davies Kimmich Onana Doue/(would have liked Sesko) I think someone taking some minutes off Saka will improve his performance through freshness. People are discounting Jesus massively but I believe he can be the one to take those rw minutes. Both he and Martinelli will likely revert to mean, with better performances. Somewhere in between last season and the one before would be fine. Essentially, improve the system around them further, give them a little more rest and the current forwards will shine.
As I’ve said spending money deeper is the safe way to go this summer-and I think it’s what the club is gonna do. Fortify the build up and squad holes in MF and DF. Add some extra details in attack is what they are thinking currently. Not necessarily what I would do but the market environment is tricky atm. I would never say no to Kimmich. Part of me wants to stop talking about an Ode role change because there is no sample size to suggest we will actually see it. Kimmich would absolutley allow Saka more central. From RCM he would get into the same areas as vs us from RB in the UCL. But in himself offers a WC LCM too.
@@harveygration Well the one certainty is that Arteta will bring you something juicy to analyze over the coming season! Feeling calmer and calmer every transfer window now, as Edu and Arteta seem to be succeeding over and over again. Euros has been a nice distraction also as I don't watch much football other than PL and CL. Did yourself proud on Tdk mate!
Thanks mate! Very kind of you to say. It was a pleasure to be able to speak with Al and Rohan. As for this summer, I’m more excited by the uncertainty than worried
im really hoping arteta is more willing to give freedom to the players and the first change i want to see is the saka-odegaard relationship. arteta needs to let go of the hand holding between the two
I am not tactically educated, but I struggle to imagine that there will ever be a game where we would be better without Odegaard on the pitch. Saka and Saliba are probably our best players, but Odegaard is the most irreplaceable one.
Hi harvey. What do you think arteta's penultimate team would look like if you were to combine teams from the past? E.g. Man City 18 mixed with Chelsea 05 and Madrid 2012 = Arteta's penultimate version
More invincibly in our defence than Chelsea 05 IMO. More hybrid defenders than out and out specialists. Atm we are a bit Madrid-y in our 1st/2nd phase build up, but a bit Spain 2012 in our final third play. Sign Onana in the summer and we are officially Bayern Munich-fied though 😂
I'm literally Counting the days to the next season, cant wait to see how much we progress again this year as a club. Hopefully we own the league this season COYG!
Hope we don’t go with Onana, Rice midfield, the ball progression will be horrendous, unless you with Zinny inverting. I think the most important thing to do is fix the left hand side out, so we won’t be so predictable and easy to defend against, like the away leg at Bayern Munich.
Amadou Onana ? I watched him for belgium and he played loads of fast forward passes but i haven't seen him for Everton. He's definitely much better passing progressively than Rice anyway and a good strong physical presence too
For Onana the bits he has to work on is receiving off the back foot in build up and spatial awareness at times w back to goal. But he is so so underrated on the ball. Volume progressor in terms of line breakers; would become the bravest on the ball in our current midfield. But the LHS is also key.
If you want two controllers on our LHS (which is Ok) it means it is essential for a Lw to be the marquee attacker. Want someone who is not just ok but elite at lock picking from the touchline this way. Imo, still the simplest way to reconfigure the LHS is with an overlap; makes it easier to source a Lcm too.
Brilliant stuff Harvey. P.s. it was fantastic to see you on TDK with Alex and Rohan, I kept saying they needed to get you on and was good to see my favourite creators all together. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Dan x2!!! I can’t thank the pair of them enough. They were so so welcoming and it’s great to know that there are not just incredibly intelligent people in the scene but absolute gents too :)
Arsenal needs to sign these 4 top level talent to actually win the pl and ucl to break the city Real Madrid level of consistency fighting for big titles. 1. Diamonde 2. Joe neves 3.Rafa Leo 4. Isak these for players we elevate Arsenal massively if we want to actually win something big and staying there like city real Bayern I would actually loved to change goalkeeper raya to maignan from milan he is like Allison to Liverpool transfer level he would have winning us titles with his saves but these for will cost big but we need them if we want to win otherwise it’s just the hope. Remember guys diamonde neves Leo isak put the word out for Edu and Arteta. Sell whatever u can sel to get them these players Chelsea r getting who ever they please we can make it happen even if they cost 400m€
@@alfredthegreat9543 I know it’s not fifa but Chelsea signed 103m£ and 115m£ for Enzo and caicedo with in six months and r still able to sign who ever they want we can liquidate our squad sell all the players except the untouchable players of whom r 9/10 players so buy these 4 and some quality squad players we need 18 high quality players plus 2 good goalkeeper and 2/3 squad players like city we don’t have to play our best 11 every week we can rotate without a drop of quality
@@alfredthegreat9543 Says the dry lunch who said "Mark my words in 5 years time people will be talking about Arteta the same way they talk about Fergie"
Do you think Miguel Gutierrez, Tyrick Mitchell, Milos Kerkez or Ferdi Kadioglu would be great addition to our left side? I am not sure about their over-lap abilities (I don't know their advantages and disadvantages)
Verdi is ambipedal but you’d be stopping natural tendencies like Timber if you forced him wide. Not for us. Mitchell, Gutierrez not what we are looking for either.
I’ve always said I would like Onana + another in MF. But Onana is so so so discredited. The main/only problem you have with a Rice/Onana midfield is receiving off the back foot in build up. Onana would automatically become our bravest MF on the ball. Very good progressor through the lines. Good disguise on his passes.
I’ve always said I would like Onana + another in MF. But Onana is so so so discredited. The main/only problem you have with a Rice/Onana midfield is receiving off the back foot in build up. Onana would automatically become our bravest MF on the ball. Very good progressor through the lines. Good disguise on his passes. Another switcher we will probably underutilise 😂.
I’ve always said I would like Onana + another in MF. But Onana is so so so discredited. The main/only problem you have with a Rice/Onana midfield is receiving off the back foot in build up. Onana would automatically become our bravest MF on the ball. Very good progressor through the lines. Good disguise on his passes.
If Guardiola can leave de Bruyne on the bench for certain games, then we shouldn't worry if Arteta leaves out say Saka or Odegaard - although obviously at the moment he never does. We do need at least 16 players who could all start to increase our tactical options.
@@gavinhansford No not at all - I'm just saying that there's nothing wrong with your best players being on the bench sometimes if it suits the game/tactics
Arteta needs to become comfortable with having a squad of 17+ I think able to be used. He is never going to want a massive squad. That’s just not how he works. But as games only look like increasing in volume it’s a must must. Different games require different tools.
Any other coach with this team may actually not be competing with Man City. So Arteta is a good coach. What i may agree on, is need to improve his ingame management
@@DMailosi 4 trophy less seasons on the bounce after spending 700m "So Arteta is a good coach" "Success is a result of small incremental sets of actions that require dedication, consistency and effort" Clueless
The more this team evolves the more I don't see space for odegaard in this team...He's no where near dynamic enough or have any special moments in him to play the SS/#10 Role.If we buy a specialist #8 do you think he get's in somehow???
Good to see you on the different knock. Glad your finally getting recognised for your content.
Thanks so much mate. Alex and Rohan were gents. Loved it
didn't know he was on TDK...
people really can’t quite grasp how much Odegaard limits us. 😂
It’s not a case of limiting. Different games require different tools. That’s all. And i want his role in our transitions to change too (build up general instead of 2nd ball gobbler/driver up the pitch)
@@harveygration
It is limiting. Even if we replace with a player not better than him, but different profile, we can be so much more dynamic and unpredictable. Gibbs White, Eze, Simons, Doue.
I don’t think Ødegaard would be better playing deeper either. His impact zone is too limited. He excels at intricate one-twos and relies heavily on his social close proximity relationism football. We need a quicker, faster, and longer-range passer to pair with Rice. We can play Havertz at the tip of the diamond with that.
Sakas's creative bag needs to be unleashed next season, giving him complete access to the right halfspace and a consistent overlapping profile at RCM .
I just think Saka needs complete freedom on that right hand side. He's not rigid to a structure which limits him, like Pep had with Messi and now Foden. When he gets the ball he can just do what he likes and not what the manager wants, people around him adapt to him.
That'll leave us vulnerable
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@@muzooraanthony6069 22/23 33 G/A, 23/24 35 G/A. Come on kid, basic analysis. Foden had 3 goals and assists against the big 6 last season, Saka had 8. Saka in the UCL had 8 goals and assists. My god 16/35 of his goals/assists were in big games.
@@Ghfjgjggj123shdhfnfmdk What you think Dry Lunch is irrelevant because you know nothing but excuses for failure
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Love from Nigeria Harv!
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Got the post just as it dropped 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤ thank you brother for the new stellar video... Great to hear from you again 🎉🎉🎉❤❤
Thanks Wash! Great to hear from you ❤️
I’m excited to see the new things Arteta implements next season. I was quite surprised to see him switch to a controlled style over the last two seasons.
A combo of last two seasons will probably be the ideal scenario.
Great work Harvey!
Many thanks mate! I’m so so excited too. As soon as that first signing is through the door we will have more of an idea. Thanks for the support ❤️
Harvey just a question, when you talk about more freedom in attack, what are your thoughts on transition inevitabilites such as the Rashfords and Leaos who don't have as much defensive work rate, is that a problem or a compromise Arsenal should take for future attackers and current ones such as Martinelli and Saka?
Defensive work ethic is something Arteta will always want in whoever he signs if we are being honest (but that is not to say that Arteta doesn’t feel like those players you mentioned cant be fixed). I think leaving a man on the last line would improve us in transition-of course-but it’s not the whole deal.
Individual fear factor, well said👍
Can you talk about our bench or rotation options, seeing that it's easier for City to rotate but harder for us especially during the run in
Thanks man! Yeah great shout
Loving this analysis...
Charles from Kenya❤❤
I could really see the progression working with Kimmich. As the RDM he could cover for White to overlap more often, allowing Saka and Ode further central. As a RCM he would allow Odegaard to solve the LCM problem and add plenty of half space crosses. All while still giving Saka and White a top passer to bounce off. Kimmich to City could also be devastating for us, similar to Rice last season.
Contrary to popular belief, I would be glad to see most of the money spent deeper once again. As an example, I would be in dream land with a window of:
Hernandez/Calafiori/Davies
Kimmich
Onana
Doue/(would have liked Sesko)
I think someone taking some minutes off Saka will improve his performance through freshness. People are discounting Jesus massively but I believe he can be the one to take those rw minutes. Both he and Martinelli will likely revert to mean, with better performances. Somewhere in between last season and the one before would be fine.
Essentially, improve the system around them further, give them a little more rest and the current forwards will shine.
As I’ve said spending money deeper is the safe way to go this summer-and I think it’s what the club is gonna do. Fortify the build up and squad holes in MF and DF. Add some extra details in attack is what they are thinking currently. Not necessarily what I would do but the market environment is tricky atm.
I would never say no to Kimmich. Part of me wants to stop talking about an Ode role change because there is no sample size to suggest we will actually see it. Kimmich would absolutley allow Saka more central. From RCM he would get into the same areas as vs us from RB in the UCL. But in himself offers a WC LCM too.
@@harveygration Well the one certainty is that Arteta will bring you something juicy to analyze over the coming season! Feeling calmer and calmer every transfer window now, as Edu and Arteta seem to be succeeding over and over again. Euros has been a nice distraction also as I don't watch much football other than PL and CL. Did yourself proud on Tdk mate!
Thanks mate! Very kind of you to say. It was a pleasure to be able to speak with Al and Rohan. As for this summer, I’m more excited by the uncertainty than worried
Congrats on the Collab with other RUclipsrs.
Thanks Charles! Loved it
im really hoping arteta is more willing to give freedom to the players and the first change i want to see is the saka-odegaard relationship. arteta needs to let go of the hand holding between the two
He’s done everything back to front so far in his Arsenal career. Hopefully he works his way forwards on this too. I’m hopeful tbh.
@@harveygration Hopefully & Next Season FC
- Osihmen £90mil
- Davies £50mil
- Fofana/Onana £20-40mil
And replace any major outgoings
ARTETA YOU MUST SEE THIS
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Xbox or Playstation?
Muppet
Eejit
@@richardwalsh4472 😂😂😂
Another really good one. Well done Harvey, keep going.
Thanks so much. Glad u enjoyed ❤️
I am not tactically educated, but I struggle to imagine that there will ever be a game where we would be better without Odegaard on the pitch. Saka and Saliba are probably our best players, but Odegaard is the most irreplaceable one.
Good analysis.
But you lost me at is signing ONANA. What we need is a passer, not a dynamic midfielder
Hi harvey. What do you think arteta's penultimate team would look like if you were to combine teams from the past? E.g. Man City 18 mixed with Chelsea 05 and Madrid 2012 = Arteta's penultimate version
Trophy less
More invincibly in our defence than Chelsea 05 IMO. More hybrid defenders than out and out specialists. Atm we are a bit Madrid-y in our 1st/2nd phase build up, but a bit Spain 2012 in our final third play.
Sign Onana in the summer and we are officially Bayern Munich-fied though 😂
good analysis..but what i have learnt with super mik is he's always learning..we need more tactical depth to win the league or champe.
Saka is holding back odegaard basically, interesting he needs to start running more.
Great video Harvey ❤❤
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Loved you on tdk mate ❤
Thanks so much mate. I absolutely adored being on. Alex and Rohan were absolute legends ❤️
Great video as always
But im ngl the background music is kind of distracting at times...
Thanks mate. And that’s very useful to hear. Still tryna find my way in that area. Too loud or just choice?
@@harveygration choice for me
Great to see the quality of your videos improving! I've noticed a bit more editing and so far it adds a lot 👏🏽
Thanks mate-means a lot. Really trying to learn what makes good editing/how to do it in the first place!
I'm literally Counting the days to the next season, cant wait to see how much we progress again this year as a club. Hopefully we own the league this season COYG!
Hopefully....
Do you go to matches?
Great video Harvey👍
Cheers Ol! Keep going mate loving it ❤️
And what if Havertz play as Shadow striker in midfield beside Odegaard?
Similar to the early season dynamics again with hopefully a new CF
Nothing will change bro..arteta will sign injury and bad player again
The point of the video is how we can improve!!
Villa game(s) & Bayern game(s) are perfect examples of our pitfalls and what to improve.
Sign Carlo Ancelotti
Job done
Villa games we created enough chances in the first half enough to win that game. So it's not a tactical deficiency
@@segunsuccess5060 Just more weak excuses...
Thanks, Harvey.
You’re welcome
🙏🙏🙏
Hope we don’t go with Onana, Rice midfield, the ball progression will be horrendous, unless you with Zinny inverting. I think the most important thing to do is fix the left hand side out, so we won’t be so predictable and easy to defend against, like the away leg at Bayern Munich.
Amadou Onana ? I watched him for belgium and he played loads of fast forward passes but i haven't seen him for Everton. He's definitely much better passing progressively than Rice anyway and a good strong physical presence too
For Onana the bits he has to work on is receiving off the back foot in build up and spatial awareness at times w back to goal. But he is so so underrated on the ball. Volume progressor in terms of line breakers; would become the bravest on the ball in our current midfield. But the LHS is also key.
@@lucifereldiablo7770 Have u ever watched Arsenal play at The Emirates?
@@richardwalsh4472 no, im not an Arsenal fan my friend
@@lucifereldiablo7770 Clearly 😅
Timber inverting on the left and possibility Zubimendi playing alongside Rice is what I'm hoping for next season.
I think Zubimendi has already publicly said he's not going anywhere.
@@agspr that's a shame. He'd be perfect for Arsenal
Lay off the pipe...
@@treacheroustiger5571 Why? To win nothing?
If you want two controllers on our LHS (which is Ok) it means it is essential for a Lw to be the marquee attacker. Want someone who is not just ok but elite at lock picking from the touchline this way.
Imo, still the simplest way to reconfigure the LHS is with an overlap; makes it easier to source a Lcm too.
Brilliant stuff Harvey. P.s. it was fantastic to see you on TDK with Alex and Rohan, I kept saying they needed to get you on and was good to see my favourite creators all together. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Dan x2!!! I can’t thank the pair of them enough. They were so so welcoming and it’s great to know that there are not just incredibly intelligent people in the scene but absolute gents too :)
Arsenal needs to sign these 4 top level talent to actually win the pl and ucl to break the city Real Madrid level of consistency fighting for big titles. 1. Diamonde 2. Joe neves 3.Rafa Leo 4. Isak these for players we elevate Arsenal massively if we want to actually win something big and staying there like city real Bayern I would actually loved to change goalkeeper raya to maignan from milan he is like Allison to Liverpool transfer level he would have winning us titles with his saves but these for will cost big but we need them if we want to win otherwise it’s just the hope. Remember guys diamonde neves Leo isak put the word out for Edu and Arteta. Sell whatever u can sel to get them these players Chelsea r getting who ever they please we can make it happen even if they cost 400m€
This ain’t fifa lil bro
You think they listen to you? 😂😂 And yeah, this ain't FIFA.
@@alfredthegreat9543 I know it’s not fifa but Chelsea signed 103m£ and 115m£ for Enzo and caicedo with in six months and r still able to sign who ever they want we can liquidate our squad sell all the players except the untouchable players of whom r 9/10 players so buy these 4 and some quality squad players we need 18 high quality players plus 2 good goalkeeper and 2/3 squad players like city we don’t have to play our best 11 every week we can rotate without a drop of quality
@@alfredthegreat9543 Says the dry lunch who said "Mark my words in 5 years time people will be talking about Arteta the same way they talk about Fergie"
@@alfredthegreat9543 You'll telling us Won Nothing Ghostagaard's the best player on the planet and you've been with a katoey next
Do you think Miguel Gutierrez, Tyrick Mitchell, Milos Kerkez or Ferdi Kadioglu would be great addition to our left side? I am not sure about their over-lap abilities (I don't know their advantages and disadvantages)
Verdi is ambipedal but you’d be stopping natural tendencies like Timber if you forced him wide. Not for us. Mitchell, Gutierrez not what we are looking for either.
@@harveygration Which LBs would be your favorites? (excluding Phonzy and Balde)
Dorgu, Hernandez, Mittelstadt all before him. But Davies is accessible for sure
Or just get a proper 8 and most things you mentioned will be fine, btw Onana not the one
I’ve always said I would like Onana + another in MF. But Onana is so so so discredited. The main/only problem you have with a Rice/Onana midfield is receiving off the back foot in build up. Onana would automatically become our bravest MF on the ball. Very good progressor through the lines. Good disguise on his passes.
@@harveygrationonana fine as partey replacement but I think partey will stay for a season. Regardless, a proper 8 is needed
Onana no not good enough 😢😢
I’ve always said I would like Onana + another in MF. But Onana is so so so discredited. The main/only problem you have with a Rice/Onana midfield is receiving off the back foot in build up. Onana would automatically become our bravest MF on the ball. Very good progressor through the lines. Good disguise on his passes. Another switcher we will probably underutilise 😂.
2(cb)-1(dm)-2(wb)-2(cm)
- 2(w) & the 1 uptop ?
No work today anus86?
I can see why so many RUclipsrs have blocked you anus....
Onana is not the solution
I’ve always said I would like Onana + another in MF. But Onana is so so so discredited. The main/only problem you have with a Rice/Onana midfield is receiving off the back foot in build up. Onana would automatically become our bravest MF on the ball. Very good progressor through the lines. Good disguise on his passes.
4 years of nothing and you're still blowing smoke up Artetas arse??
Zero Standards - Zero Ambition - Zero Hope
You must be a spurd fan 😮
@@owensengooba527 You must be still getting breast fed by your brother
It’s ok to accept the fact we need to win trophies without having to pivot to the other extreme.
Is the accent real?
I hope so
harvey are you still confident in arsenal challenging/winning the title next season and thoughts on people saying arsenal will fall of to 3rd or 4th?
Arsenal arent dropping below second.
@@charles9489 I'll be you 10k we win nothing again next season
Yes or no?
@@charles9489 Another dreamer content with failure...
@@charles9489Clown
If Guardiola can leave de Bruyne on the bench for certain games, then we shouldn't worry if Arteta leaves out say Saka or Odegaard - although obviously at the moment he never does. We do need at least 16 players who could all start to increase our tactical options.
Are u comparing KDB to Odegaard? 😅
@@gavinhansford No not at all - I'm just saying that there's nothing wrong with your best players being on the bench sometimes if it suits the game/tactics
Arteta needs to become comfortable with having a squad of 17+ I think able to be used. He is never going to want a massive squad. That’s just not how he works. But as games only look like increasing in volume it’s a must must. Different games require different tools.
@@harveygration Klopp liked to have a small playing squad and it caught him out in the end.
@FinsburyPhil If you think Odegaards anywhere your best player then you're clearly struggling to accept reality...
😂😂😂😂 this team 🥱🥱🥱
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But he won the Community Shield
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@@richardwalsh4472 😂😂
Any other coach with this team may actually not be competing with Man City. So Arteta is a good coach. What i may agree on, is need to improve his ingame management
@@DMailosi 4 trophy less seasons on the bounce after spending 700m "So Arteta is a good coach"
"Success is a result of small incremental sets of actions that require dedication, consistency and effort"
Clueless
The more this team evolves the more I don't see space for odegaard in this team...He's no where near dynamic enough or have any special moments in him to play the SS/#10 Role.If we buy a specialist #8 do you think he get's in somehow???
Crap fan he is arsenal best player better than rice
Plz shut up
@MusaRamadhan-t4x Arsenal's best player is a Real Madrid reject who's won nothing because he always goes missing 😅
Comedy Gokd
@@ikw2828Awwww bless
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Has he made you cry again?