question : how da frick do you micro them canonships so well ??? it feels like any run i make, i lose a LOT to them either going into the enemy tower range, ships that pop out of the docks or patrolling units which then go to the transport ships and into the tower ranges... i was close to 11:XX a few times, but would lose every single onager or have random units roam around the island making me lose so much time... in the end, it felt more like a chore and I still didnt even get a time even remotely close 11 is it just the elo difference ? maybe youre also accustomed to 2x speed whereas i need to get gud in 1.7x first or sth ?11
@@arn0000 Yeah it's hard to do everything in fast speed when you have a lot fewer clicks available but here are some things I learned over time: I use attack move a lot and for the initial fight I focused mostly on making sure I was moving and spamming it as much as possible. That lets the fire ships tank arrow fire but not get hit by cannons, whilst the cannons do the main dps. Remember your cannons have ballistics. Try to stagger the firing of the cannons so as to not waste shots. If some of them are firing at a different rate to the others, they will often not waste a shot on a target and move on to the next one if that makes sense? Shift queue attacks on the buildings so that they move on to the next target without you always having to babysit them. Dudes will always get created by the castles, nothing you can do about it except kill them with the ballistics cannons. The onagers will usually die to the bombard cannons so thats why I add my own cannon and used to add a couple cavalier to snipe them. It just takes time. Trust me, if you are a reasonable elo, speedruns are usually beatable. I'm probably higher elo than the 2 main record holders (Tei and Chaz), but they are more creative, more experienced and better at small unit micro. The longer the scenario, the better my edge is. But then Redlash and Timbr are better than me and I've still taken their records. Redlash is 2k1. Just takes a little time investment. I believe!
@@TheMcGreevy okay so i got the WR now. I actually got it like 3 times, but once i got a time that was close to the fastest possible, i had to grind and get that 11 i did 2 big sessions all in all, one yesterday and one today. i didn't grind for the record ALL the time, but heres the approximate duration of todays session 11 yesterday i had a 14:19, which i posted even tho i thought it was 4th place. ended up being 3rd place after all. today i started 'strategizing' at around 6.30 am. and grinding at 7. - At 7:40, i got a time of 13:50, placing me 2nd by 3 seconds. - At 12:38 i got a time of 13:37, placing me 2nd behind you by 3 seconds. - At 12:50 (literally the next try ... i got WR with a time of 12:34. - At 13:19, i got a time of 11:56. the ship micro was (without me really trying to 11) REALLY good, also first run with no ships lost at all (no CG) - At 14:36, after some painful grinding, i got the 11:43 (i did test with cheats and 11:43 IS the lower limit on hard/2x for this campaign) - At 19:00 i had finally finished making the thumbnail, deciding on whether to make an edited version or not (and doing the small edits and things) and decided that 'losslesscut' as a software is probably gonna take me longer to figure out how to be able to have audio as well as audio+gameplay in one file lol. Ended up going with clipchamp after all since i was happier to include the small fail compilation than to have the video be in 2k lol -At 19:45 i regretted my life choices, considering i'll spend the evening working to make up for not doing that during the day 11 Here is my tips after getting and beating down the record : Strategies specific to Lepanto Aoe 2 DE : Use missionaries not bbc. idk if they're better than bbc, but they're high risk high reward. i only shot them one time with my onagers 11 Send a ECG (canon gal) down at the start of the game. it will snipe 2 towers and a castle for free, no micro needed Balance your eco. My setup of around 6-7 vills to wood can probable be optimised by having more to wood. Even if no cannon dies, you still want em out as fast as possible. -Destroy castles 'as fast as possible with low amounts of ecg'. not sure how the scripts and stuffs work, but more than once did the enemy castles start spawning a lot of units just before being destroyed (as the last buildings alive)... Pay attention to the landing and land at the latest at around 10:30. This will allow you to get record pace. also, theres a mango and bbc (and monk/janies) spawning if you don't get to the centre of the enemy base fast enough. beware of that happening.
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question : how da frick do you micro them canonships so well ??? it feels like any run i make, i lose a LOT to them either going into the enemy tower range, ships that pop out of the docks or patrolling units which then go to the transport ships and into the tower ranges...
i was close to 11:XX a few times, but would lose every single onager or have random units roam around the island making me lose so much time...
in the end, it felt more like a chore and I still didnt even get a time even remotely close 11
is it just the elo difference ? maybe youre also accustomed to 2x speed whereas i need to get gud in 1.7x first or sth ?11
@@arn0000 Yeah it's hard to do everything in fast speed when you have a lot fewer clicks available but here are some things I learned over time:
I use attack move a lot and for the initial fight I focused mostly on making sure I was moving and spamming it as much as possible. That lets the fire ships tank arrow fire but not get hit by cannons, whilst the cannons do the main dps. Remember your cannons have ballistics. Try to stagger the firing of the cannons so as to not waste shots. If some of them are firing at a different rate to the others, they will often not waste a shot on a target and move on to the next one if that makes sense?
Shift queue attacks on the buildings so that they move on to the next target without you always having to babysit them.
Dudes will always get created by the castles, nothing you can do about it except kill them with the ballistics cannons. The onagers will usually die to the bombard cannons so thats why I add my own cannon and used to add a couple cavalier to snipe them.
It just takes time. Trust me, if you are a reasonable elo, speedruns are usually beatable. I'm probably higher elo than the 2 main record holders (Tei and Chaz), but they are more creative, more experienced and better at small unit micro. The longer the scenario, the better my edge is. But then Redlash and Timbr are better than me and I've still taken their records. Redlash is 2k1. Just takes a little time investment.
I believe!
@@TheMcGreevy thank you ! we believe !
@@TheMcGreevy okay so i got the WR now. I actually got it like 3 times, but once i got a time that was close to the fastest possible, i had to grind and get that 11
i did 2 big sessions all in all, one yesterday and one today.
i didn't grind for the record ALL the time, but heres the approximate duration of todays session 11
yesterday i had a 14:19, which i posted even tho i thought it was 4th place. ended up being 3rd place after all.
today i started 'strategizing' at around 6.30 am. and grinding at 7.
- At 7:40, i got a time of 13:50, placing me 2nd by 3 seconds.
- At 12:38 i got a time of 13:37, placing me 2nd behind you by 3 seconds.
- At 12:50 (literally the next try ... i got WR with a time of 12:34.
- At 13:19, i got a time of 11:56. the ship micro was (without me really trying to 11) REALLY good, also first run with no ships lost at all (no CG)
- At 14:36, after some painful grinding, i got the 11:43 (i did test with cheats and 11:43 IS the lower limit on hard/2x for this campaign)
- At 19:00 i had finally finished making the thumbnail, deciding on whether to make an edited version or not (and doing the small edits and things) and decided that 'losslesscut' as a software is probably gonna take me longer to figure out how to be able to have audio as well as audio+gameplay in one file lol. Ended up going with clipchamp after all since i was happier to include the small fail compilation than to have the video be in 2k lol
-At 19:45 i regretted my life choices, considering i'll spend the evening working to make up for not doing that during the day 11
Here is my tips after getting and beating down the record :
Strategies specific to Lepanto Aoe 2 DE :
Use missionaries not bbc. idk if they're better than bbc, but they're high risk high reward. i only shot them one time with my onagers 11
Send a ECG (canon gal) down at the start of the game. it will snipe 2 towers and a castle for free, no micro needed
Balance your eco. My setup of around 6-7 vills to wood can probable be optimised by having more to wood. Even if no cannon dies, you still want em out as fast as possible.
-Destroy castles 'as fast as possible with low amounts of ecg'. not sure how the scripts and stuffs work, but more than once did the enemy castles start spawning a lot of units just before being destroyed (as the last buildings alive)...
Pay attention to the landing and land at the latest at around 10:30. This will allow you to get record pace. also, theres a mango and bbc (and monk/janies) spawning if you don't get to the centre of the enemy base fast enough. beware of that happening.