Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4 "Torrent" by 8 pianists
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4 by 8 pianists
Which performance do you like the most?
01-Lukas Geniušas 00:06
02-Boris Berezovsky 02:03
03-Samson François 04:17
04-Valentina Lisitsa 06:24
05-Stanislav Bunin 08:12
06-György Cziffra 10:23
07-Vladimir Ashkenazy 12:09
08-Hiroko Nakamura 14:12
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My favorite of this group is Ashkenazy. A nice, clean, no-nonsense straightforward reading. The others are all great but more somewhat eccentric in their own way. When I was at Juilliard you would hear dozens pianists playing this piece in particular in the practice rooms on a daily basis. Some of them were fantastic.
Lukas Geniušas is by far my favorite. Perfect force and tempo.
@garyallen8824Зависть плохое чуство.
00:06
02:03
04:17
06:24
08:12
10:23
12:08
14:12
Very good performances. Cziffra is unsurpassed.
Agree with you, my friend. Cziffra's has a fire that is seldom found in the new generation of pianists.
I really like how there's something truly unique to each performance. Berezovsky's use of dynamics is incredibly satisfying to me for instance. François and Bunin reveal elements I hadn't really spotted before. I don't really have a favourite
Cziffra’s was the funniest. I like how he intentionally highlighted the left hand in that one passage.
Haha yes, I'm laughing so hard rn. He had humor
@@mariedagoult1 I don’t get what was funny about it, could you explain?
@@imapanda2434 it's funny cause it's a little bit ridiculous. That doesn't mean that he played it wrongly and not good, he is actually one of my favorite pianists.
I hear things in the music with Bunin that I had never noticed. He is, incidentally, a third generation Neuhaus.
Samson François had my personal fav tempo and dynamics.
with Samson François very viril Torrent has a sens
Cziffra's was amazing, but to me, the precision and restlessness of Valentina Lisitsa's playing was equally amazing.
This is one of the most potent pieces of music I have come across. I like this piece, when it's played in an even tempo, metronome-tight. But some of these interpretations feel rushed, and then it's not really that potent any more. The one I come back to all the time is Evgeny Kissin, but he's not in this compilation. Anyway, one of my favorites, and I'm impressed with anyone just learning the piece. Thanks for making this video.
Kissin is probably my favorite performer of Chopin.
listen to tiffany poon's rendition
Cziffra absolutely bonkers with insane accelerations. Personal favourite is Lukas - crystal clear, steady and great tempo. He should have won the Chopin competition in 2010.
02-Boris Berezovsky
My favorite is the Ashkenazy one. I tend to prefer slower versions - it's really off-putting when it feels like the pianist is struggling to keep up. The Geniusas and Lisitsa recordings are also nice. I think the Francois one might be nice also (but the recording quality muffles it a bit, and I really like this etude to be crisp). The Nakamura one was a bit fast IMO, It was so fast that it didn't sound clear to me. I usually love Bunin's stuff. Don't think this particular etude lends well to his lyricism though. Berezovsky sounded like he couldn't get his fingers to move, especially near the beginning the first time the left hand does the octave thing, the right hand just sounds stuck. The Cziffra one. . . oof. It sounds like he's barely hanging on to it. :/
But here: Cziffra. By Far. His Butterfly Etude is out of this world - good!
Ahh yes. The Torrent. A Bach Invention on meth.
You mean cocaine
@@jacobybienvenue9275 Meth is a much stronger and more extreme upper than coke
vliegendehollander
How do u know
@@awe331 Because he tried to inhale, I mean, play it.
@@awe331 vliegendeHollander is a Dutch this tho. He's a cultured Dutch man
Each performance is a unique gem! (I particularly liked Valentina Lisitsa's version.)
1. Well-played, possible to hear thema and "sober" playing. Just bit too academic, it is rather perfectly played, than played with passion, but I admire that kind of playing, cuz there is nothing that can distract you.
2. Little bit slower, but not really. Everything well-expressed. Nothing is blurred or hidden. Every note can be heard, so every note counts. Stretto is absolutely perfect, the most well-played and the most well-expressed!
3. Nicely played, however I cannot find anything special. It is just well-played, but just bit mainstream, I would say.
4. Fast, which would be okay, but still managed to keep the thema and no blurring.
5. Srsly precise, but not Chopin style. However, I am not conservative about Chopin, so I like this interpretation. Dynamically it was absolutely brilliant.
6. Musically too blurred, but technically just magnificent!!! The best ending, noone could play the last 5 bars like him. Just bit less blurred, and would be perfect! Passionate and therefore dynamically the most tremendous interpretation.
7. Most precisely played, well-expressed every note and stretto so "sober" and nicely played! I can say nothing against, The last 2 octaves were best played of all pianists. However, the middle part could be more individual and original.
8. Beautiful and emotional, just bit too unstable. Notes were almost clear, the stretto part felt firstly, that it got out of control, but then she again cooled her head, and finished it absolutely brilliantly. Her last few bars and the total end is 3rd best after Cziffra and Berezovsky. But the rest of the etude lacks originality, the originality was bit expressed within the dynamics.
My favourite -
Beginning - Bunin 05
Middle part - Berezovsky 02
Stretto part - Cziffra (especially the last 5 bars)
Last three bars as a tremendous detail - Cziffra RULES THE WORLD with his three last bars, then Nakamura and Fracois 03
Whole etude - Berezovsky or Bunin
3 ) nicely played IoI
What do you think about Dmitry Shishkin playing this version? He's among my fav. on this piece.
alain Spiteri Thanks for your reply, it was helpful! I will look up Alfred Cortot. When it comes to Chopin I'm a fan of Cyprien Katsaris, but I can't find him playing this piece.
It's necessary to write op10-4 is not a masterpiece , only an etude for the five fingers as Czerny no more . There is not a interpretation here , only tecnical . Samson François plays very very viril and the word " Torrent " takes à meaning it's not sure that Chopin was agree
@@alainspiteri502 It is more than an etude for the 5 fingers. All of Chopin's etudes are written musically, including this one. we can't say the same for all of Czerny's studies.
Cziffra is a genius !
Cziffra is always so passionate… insane performance :)
valentina i love you Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Im a bootlegging truck driver and Valentina Lisitsa does my favourite versions of Hungarian Rap 2 and Torrent. Thats a big 10-4 good buddy
martha argerich’s rendition is superb! (i know it’s not in this list but, i just wanted to say that hers is my fav :D)
Great work my friend! Should have considered Pollini as well, his interpretation of this etude is the best imo
Samson Francois has my vote.
Loved this video, very nice to study
10:20
György Cziffra
Chopin to najpiękniejsza spuścizna dla ludzkości ❤️
Very different performances . Also Bunin is a true musician ( in fact , why to play it as fast as possible ? )
Because Chopin himself ordered it :-)
Hiroko has the Chopin essence.
The end was a deep breath leading into the swell that is the last page as if she was singing it.
素晴らしい企画⤴🎶😉‼コメント欄が面白過ぎて初心者には入口にも参考にもなり、レジェンドから現代pianistまで世界中の人の熱いpianist愛が伝わってきて楽しい✨😁🎶是非、シリーズ化して下さい🎵
I'll go out on a limb here, and I'm clearly in the minority, but I honestly like Ashkenazy's version the best. Some of the others, especially Cziffra's while technically, dazzlingly, brilliantly UNBELIEVABLE,
just seem less musical, in my humble opinion. Just too too fast. I get that this is an Étude, but still.....
I often wonder what the composers' opinions would be, in situations like this, were they able to hear modern pianists play their works.
Love all the different interpretations!!! :)
I like Ashkenazy best, like you!
Agreed. There is no room for breathing emotion into the passages which creates and additional layer of energy which is lacking in a performance that is too fast. Worth remembering that Chopin's Pleyel never afforded the type of break-neck speeds we are hearing here. This is why Zimmerman is so good. He can play fast but recognises that that is but one facet of creating good music.
György Cziffra
Pollini is the best.彼のレコードによるショパンエチュードは金字塔。あのディスクを超えるものはないと思う。
I liked so much Samson François performance
Murray Perhia
Samson François, Hiroko Nakamura, and especially Valentina Lisitsa!
Cziffra's highlighted his left hand!
imo the faster it is played the more "fiery" it sounds assuming the pianist has it within control... by this criteria top prize goes to Cziffra followed by Valentina
7:14
Never heard such inner voice before :O
Replying to all of you, all performances are great, but why not Richter?
Cziffra for me, and of those not included, Gavrilov, Barere and Richter
Cziffra's interpretation to me most highlights the manic feel of the piece, by allowing concurrent parts to drift back and forth out of sync with each other almost. Ashkenazy is probably my favorite though, clean and simple.
valentina = midi
Vladimir Ashkenazy has my vote.
At the pianistic level, Cziffra is No. 1.
At the artistic level: 1, 2, 3 ex aequo Ashkenazy, Geniušas, Berezovsky.
Cziffra all over the shop - loose canon 😂
There goes Valentina again, proving that she can play anything faster than everyone else!
But...is that really the point?
Look up Sviatoslav Richter it is truly amazing.
Seeing as a etude is a technical exercise and this particular one is about speed, I'd say yes.
and richter does it better than anyone else
She never said that....you are the one who says that she is trying to prove that she is faster....Therefore there may not have any purpose...She might just enjoy the speed....
I hate it when everyone says this about her, the song is written to be played presto and Lisitsa's tempo doesn't leave this range. She is playing it the way she interpreted it to be played.
cziffra is the fastest, he also had the clearest diction, a characteristics shared by Geniusas, whose rendition of the piece, I believe, would be be appreciated by any one who ever learns this piece.
too much rubato for my taste
a machine a robot Cziffra here
Roblox uu
I liked Bunin.
My vote goes to. Horowitz. It's the version I would use in a movie.
Fredrick Chiu blows all these performances out of the water
I found it quite strange that Boris would play this piece THAT slowly. I mean, usually he's such a speed demon. Plus his dynamics were so off. Oh well, maybe he wasn't having a good day.
The record is from 1991 . So Boris was 22 at the time. ( Timing 2.15 )
An upload from a concert ( 2008 ) the timing is 1.45 !!
@@hansdekorver7365 : et bas ! Chopin c'est maintenant du chronomètre , vous avez raison cette Étude n'a absolument rien de genial , l'étude pour les cinq doigts de Debussy c'est quand même autre chose !
Mehra Ahsan although in some parts original dynamics are lost, I think he performed it so musically and every notes are expressed so well and clearly; what I think should be considered when judging a performance of chopin's etudes.
Condition looks better this Berezovsky.
ruclips.net/video/9qA5Sy0IX0o/видео.html
04-Valentina Lisitsa perfect! Liked 08-Hiroko Nakamura very much too, though.
And Sviatoslav Richter? Why? "Chopin - Etude Op. 10, No. 4.avi - Sviatoslav Richter"
Richter,Lugansky.Unfortunately, they are not on this list.
最後の中村紘子さん、もともと速い演奏の人ですが、特に早かったのが2016/4/17公開のこれです。↓
ruclips.net/video/SXskbS1Wudg/видео.html
valentina princess of piano
Richter too
These Opus 10 Etudes are a dime a dozen - coincidentally also the first purchase price for the sheet music.
and the gold medal goes to Cziffra - but does he pass the drug test? No stimulants involved - black nor white?
suprisingly so far valentinas although i havent finished the video. This is one of those etudes that i favour the speed in
Cziffras is too inconsistent with speed for me
nakamura is too silent in the beginning. this is one of those songs that i feel should be played loud and fast
evgeny kissin is the best
My top 3, in order: Lisitsa, Nakamura, Bunin
cziffra is flying
Samson François
Valentina
wow surprised great.^_^
2, 4, 7 by far. It's pointless to play blindingly fast to prove you can do it but lose musicality during the whole piece. I'm picking the ones that actually made me feel something instead of listening to a robot-speed rendition devoid of emotion.
berezovsky and sanson francois. Only their performance seemed to me the most obvious
J’aime bcp Lukas, ensuite Lisitsa , bel enregistrement.
Écoutez la version Bruce Liu excellent
Брюс Лю - очень быстро, но как бы поверхностно, схематично, не от объема.
Valentina Lisitsa's performance
Afonso Nogueira nah at least not in my opinion just my opinion not fact i didnt like her version of it
She plays everything way to damn fast
@@phillach5181 yeah, everyone plays this piece too fast in my opinion. Liszt said i dont care how fast you play the work, i care how well you can play the work.
@@blackbeard0074 he even if chopin would have agree with that, why are you talking about liszt?
@@manuelbes because that was something liszt said... duh
Ofc Richter is the king of this etude; I guess this video is asking who gets 2nd place? Mei-Ting Sun did a really nice one at the Chopin Competition a few cycles ago btw, but I can't find that one, only an inferior one from the E-Competition.
Lisitsa for me
Nakamura has a bizarre chair!!!
Valentina Lisitsa¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
Samson François very viril : it-s that Torrent .
Valentina bien sûr...
Bunin, it has to be Bunin for me, it's just merely my liking of Chopin. Cziffra makes me feel so uneasy and agitated that I can hardly listen through the entire piece. Sounds like just noise coming out of a mess bowl filled with uncontrolled sound/noise.
Horowitz, Fiorentino, Chochieva, Vacatello.
Cziffra
I vote for Lisitsa. You should have included Horowitz.
S.Richter for me
Where is pollini and Horowitz
Ashkenazy what a contradictory name...
Wheres chiu ?
Richter, Gilels and Rubinstein. Best here? Cziffra.
dmitry shiskin's version
George li
Samson francois
Richter , Luganski...sa ove liste ,Lisitsa.
For me only Berezovsky!!!!
Too must ligthness !!!!!
valentina lisitsa is my favorite😍
Valentina lisitsa
Where is the Richter. I think the fastest. Richter was asked why he plays so fast he answered because I can.
Vyacheslav Gryaznov should be in this clip.
Номера 1 и 6.
ashkenazy has a light touch
Lisitsa
Sviatoslav Richter the best
Valentina Lisitsa so fast
6th one was best
Listen also to Dinorah Varsi
I can hear 3 guy left sound oviously