Ep.08 1979 Ford F250 Restoration - frame rust remove convert prime and paint
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Ep.08 1979 Ford F250 Restoration - frame rust remove convert prime and paint
Rust converter applied and finally primed and painted the frame. Took forever because the weather would not cooperate! Sunshine during the week while I'm at work, them rain every weekend for months on end.
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You’re a good dad. Thanks for the videos. Your work is very thorough. My father in law and I are about to start doing something similar to a 1977 truck of his, which is what brought me to your videos.
That’s so cool! Enjoy the process. Thanks for the kind words! 🙌🏼
You got runs in the paint just cuz I watched the video, thats how bad of a painter I am. ;) Keep up the awesome work. I cant wait to see the finished product.
Hahaha! I knew I could blame someone other than me! 😝🕺🏼
@@troysgarage Winning!
Brings back memories.
Did you pull yours apart to rid it of rust too?
@@troysgarage not yet. Been sitting for years. It was my Dads truck. He died 10 years ago. Pulled it in shop last week. Start work this weekend
That’s so awesome!!!! Time well spent! Something to help honor for Dad. I’m sure he’d be proud! 🙌🏼
Love them old Ford truck an 78 &79 bronco
Agreed! I’m not a big fan of the new Fords but the 70’s and 80’s were solid!
@@troysgarage I agree 💯%
Love the videos keep up the great work 👍
Thanks man, appreciate the support! 🙌🏼
hey do what you can with what you know and with the money you have. me and my friend both had 66 F100 short bed 352 3 speed on the floor. not to much rust. not really bad trucks. but I spent everything I had and did 99% of the work myself even the paint job. and had maybe $2500 in it. but he has money and spent over $20 on his. and he sold his for 27K I was down there in my truck as he was selling his and the guy that came with the guy to buy his bought mine for 19k. and mine had a/c. so just because you send a lot of money getting stuff done don't mean its going to bring you more money.
That’s awesome! Check out my newer video titled “Wallace the 66”, you’ll get a kick out of that. The price was right! I paid her $5 for this Farm Find. 66 F-250 with some really sweet patina! 🕺🏼👍🏼
Lookin good great job
Thanks man!!!
Your welcome me and my grandpa got my 79 running last weekend and started to tear apart the old flatbed if you want to see check it out on my Instagram it’s coming along @coltonpurchase
Will check that out for sure!
Corroseal is the way to go for rust conversion IMO. And at $48 a gallon Prime, it's cheaper too. Plus it is an etching primer/sealer, so you can paint right over it without any prep, and water based so no problem with brush cleaning (your hands are another story, it sticks to them for days). But it looks perfect on a frame as is. Looks factory new. I've experimented with leftover on scrap metal laying around, and this stuff is awesome.
I’ll have to give Corroseal a try on my next project. Thanks for the tip. 🙌🏼
I agree, I 1st tried corroseal to see how long it would last by itself by 1st wire brushing it then degreasing an cleaning the whole underside of my 4" lifted E350 4X4. It lasted for about 3-4 years before little tiny bits started to come through & I could of just left it, but this time I just cleaned the underside and reapplied the corroseal & it went a lot smoother not soaking up as much. Then I applied Rustoleum Professional High Performance Enamel in Gloss black #7779 with a brush for $30 a gallon, and I used half of it(I still have do do my F350 dually). I rolled around on my creeper for a about 4 hours getting everything, from inside and outside the C channel frame, rear end, front end(4x4), steering stabilizers, rear leaf springs, cross bracing frame brackets, steering knuckles, took spare dire down etc...and it looks waaay better than brand new. I was told from a body shop guy to use the Rustoleum cause all the garbage "undercoating" just peels, which I see all over on my 06 F350 dually. The Corroseal with also change different colors also it it wasn't prep right, grey if it need more, brown streaks if the metal was wet, and speckled discoloration bc of mineral salts and other chemicals, in other words you didn't clean it right haha.
Naval jelly is a pretty good substance to fight rust. Brush it on and remove with water within 15 minutes. It provides a protective coat for the paint to adhere to. It encapsulates the any left over rust that you missed. Pretty good stuff to use.
I'll have to look into that. Thanks for the tip!
Doing it within your budget is great and its how I approach my builds. I use the same methods as you but it doesn't cost any extra to strip it down further and do it complete one time rather than having to revisit it. Thats my only criticism is a few shortcuts were taken that would have only cost you time not money.
Agree completely. I’m at that point of the build where I’m questioning going back to revisit some of these parts. Time will tell how I decide to proceed. But your point struck home for sure. 🙌🏼
Great video. Definitely shows me what I’m in for when I do my frame on my 94 OBS Silverado here on my channel.
Super satisfying to see it turn from rust to a shiny smooth(ish) finish that will last for years!
@@troysgarage that’s what I can’t wait to see. Definitely gonna make sure I pay attention to detail on it too that way I don’t have to worry with it for years to come.
That’s how to do it. Best to do it right the first time around. 🙌🏼
@@troysgarage yessir! 👍🏻
Man I hate rust! The curse of living in the salt belt / snow belt. Just got a 98 Chevy truck I want to take care of the rust on. It runs perfectly and the interior is perfect but wow the rust is so bad. Not rotted through the frame just very very heavy surface rust and some body panels are rotted completely through. I really want to get the frame fixed up so it lasts another 20 years. Good video!
Rust is the devil!!!! 👿
well done friend.
Thanks!!! 🙌🏼
Looks great. You are a better man than me; It took me about 10 minutes with a wire wheel and grinder to figure out that a trip to the sandblaster was in my future :)
Better man isn’t the right term, more like too poor to afford the luxury. Wish I could have saved those hours for something more productive. Hahaha
Your son lucky that u are doing all the work lol
He’s a good kid. He’s been involved but was very busy getting straight A’s and playing Lacrosse. I did t mind doing extra work as I told him, if he ever sells it I get the first option to buy it from him. Hahaha
@@troysgarage happy his first truck is real truck not these pop cans u can't really work on yourself lol
Great job, but it doesn't matter if you did a perfect job. If you live in a state like Michigan that salts heavily in winter it is just a matter of time. All you can do is put up a good fight like you are doing.
Thank you. Yeah we salt like crazy here and with lake affect storms it gets a little out of hand.
That looks pretty good. I have a 71 C10 that looks the same way and I am dreading the 500 hrs of steps to do por15 for a driver. Considering I know it will get chipped off eventually I may go this route just to get it done so I can get on to the next task.
Agreed, to do the POR15 correctly would take a frame off restoration. I had neither the time, resources or space to complete that level of restoration. I do want to do that one day, but this is not the one.
Rustmort best converter I've ever used
Never heard of it but I’m looking it up now. 👍🏼
Nice job!
That’s a hell of a job.
James Mullins thanks man! Was a long time coming. So satisfying when it was done. I still look at all that shiny black under the truck and it makes me happy! Noticed that today in fact. 👍🏼
You should feel happy cause that’s a great job. I been eyeing a 55 Chevy pickup and it has no bed but frame can use a touch up like this and your video gave me motivation to do it! Keep up the good work!
Get on that project! Shoot over some pics at diyhomeandauto@gmail.com. I’d love to see the progress!
Hows this holding up? Doing research and trying to figure out which direction to take my FJ40 frame. Thank you!
Last time I crawled up under there it looked like it was holding up great. We do keep it under a cover and haven’t done any real driving yet (she’s completely torn apart right now. See the most recent video for midnight maroon to see what I mean. 😱
hey man, turned out pretty good.
pcmcobra thanks! I can’t wait to get back to work on it and my next project too.
Turned out more gooder. Lots more gooder! (Is that better?) 😜🕺🏼
Have you ever used por15? Expensive, but a good solid rust converter/enamel. Stuff last forever. Looks good
Not on this project. I reached out to them for a partnership but they didn’t think I’d bring them enough traffic, so I went another direction. 🤷🏼♂️
In this situation, do you think it would be better to do it this way or use por 15? I'm going to clean up the underside of 2 of my trucks and am looking for the best bang for the buck
POR-15 is def more expensive but it’s also a more permanent solution. If the trucks are exposed to the weather I’d go for the POR-15.
@@troysgarage beauty thanks!
Hey look into getting a portable canopy might help out with the rain so you can stay work on it
I have one you’ll see in a future episode. It’s just so hard to put up alone. I’m THAT LAZY!!!! Hahaha. 🕺🏼🤷🏼♂️
DIY Home and Auto yeah I saw it 😂 love this series can’t wait for more on this truck thanks for replying even thought these videos are older that’s pretty cool
P.O.R 15 my friend all you have to do is knock the rust down then coat it and rust will not come back through. I live in eastern Canada salt roads in the winter and 20 minutes from the ocean and I coated my trucks frame 12 years ago and still no rust.
I tried getting them to sponsor my video but they never responded. So I went a different way. I do hear great things about their products. Maybe someday they’ll dance with me. I have a 66 F250 project coming soon. Hopefully I can get their attention by then. 😜🤷🏼♂️
@@troysgarage let's hope so. Definitely will be looking forward to that project.
Funny because I’m doing it right now on my 1996 f-350 and the frame is literally completely identical to ur truck
Frames themselves didn’t change much in 20 years. The newer stuff obviously has but then again, they don’t built them like they used to. 🤷🏼♂️
What brand of rust converter did you use? Looks great
If you take derusto in the can and thin it a bit you can actually brush it thicker and protect it much better than spray.it flows out good and brush marks flow out.it will last much much longer!!
Maybe on my next build. Keeping this in my back pocket of ideas for use in the future. Thanks man!
Did you go after the frame under the cab, too?
Not yet! Is the answer I’ll give to that question. I’d love to eventually. It it’s not in the cards right now.
My budget I saved is 20,000 the truck is in above exceptional shape for the age.... no body damage rust or dents it was my dad's and I want to restore it. The interior headliner and dash pad is hanging down dash cracked so new dash headliner carpet and panels seat reformed and recovered new dash bezels original correct factory ones ac upgraded to r134a...there's no rust in floor pans at all... I baby it and keep in a garage. I want it to look like the day it was delivered new! I even rebuilt the original radio!
🤩 I bet that thing is a sight to behold! What color is it? Have done the paint correction/buffing yet? I’d love to see pics. Send them to me if you want to share (diyhomeandauto@gmail.com).
@@troysgarage painting back to original factory two tone color. It is dark blue top center is light blue crome molding then dark blue bottom... the interior is blue and I did sound deadening Matt's the cab was dipped and coated any if there was any tiny amount is gone all new glass door windshield exctra. All new seals and gaskets new body mount bushings and bolts. The fire wall got all new jute padding like the factory new ac fan box and brake booster and master cylinder all new whipper rods and motor.. to much to list new crome around the windshield. New lariat badges. New heater core brand new wiring harness copies of the original build sheet found under the carpet from factory a copie was put back in place where factory one was found and laminated. Front and rear diffs just rebuilt all new ball joints pitman arm tirods you name it new steering box. The bed getting l.e.d lights and spray in liner. This truck is being built like as if it was new... right down to original hub caps. Just painted all drives driveshafts and new ujoints. All new bushings in ALL suspension parts. All brakes painted and new hardware and bolts put in. The only thing having the underneath of the bed painted to help protect inner fenders and keep rust off! New tanks and aftermarket 38 gallon tank with a sump put in both tanks. Spare tire carrier bar sandblasted and painted new tank straps. The Reece hitch repainted new custom bumpers
That is a crazy amount of work. Definitely a labor of love! You did all that for $20k? 😱 I’d think all that would be a lot more than that. Are going all the work yourself?
Been watching all the videos of this restoration and loving it! We have a 04 F250 with a dump bed, and need to get it cleaned up and painted. Is the paint that you used alright to spray on the exhaust system, as well?
No, it’s not made for high temp. You’ll want to mask off the exhaust before spraying. Fire hazard! 😱
@@troysgarage Alright, perfect! Good to know, thanks so much🙌
That turned out looking GREAT! Are you still using that same rust converter? I'm going to try some Coroseal on my 79 K10's frame.
Yup Fertan converter. Then Rusty Metal Primer.
After undercoating I hit it with fluid film a few months later and then once a year after it helps keep the rust at bay.
Pro tip! Thanks! 🙌🏼🤘🏼
@@troysgarage thanks for the content love those old ford's
Thanks man!!! It’s comments like these that motivate me to keep moving forward. It’s hard being a part time tuber with a demanding day job. Wish I could do this full time and spit out weekly amazing co tent and revivals. Dreams right?!?! 🤷🏼♂️😜
@@troysgarage it's awesome you do what you do I have a hard enough time finding the time to work on my projects let alone film them
Looks good. Even if some of the surface rust is trapped under the paint, preventing water from contacting the rust will slow down the corrosion. My only concern is you weren’t wearing a respirator, and with all that rattle can stuff, it’s a bit unhealthy.
Yeah it’s not perfect but will do for now. Spraying outside and the breeze carried the fumes away. Hardly even smelled any during this process. 🤷🏼♂️ Plus this is how I keep myself strong enough to withstand the Covids hahaha
@@troysgarage haha nice I hear that. Once I sprayed undercoating without a respirator and I felt sick with the flu for like 3 days after. I've done so much body work over the years that I can't smell anything anymore lol!
I basically did the same thing all over to a heavily rusted dodge B250 van bed. I sanded heavy rust off with wire brush on a drill. I used rust converter (phosphoric Acid) let dry 24 hours. i then painted with rustoleum spray paint. I did not do as good job as the video. It has lasted 20 years now living in salty air near the beach and the paint looks as good as day i put it on with zero return of the rust anywhere. The places where the rust had eaten holes in the metal before I did the rust treatment and paint did not reform rust either.
That is great to hear! This means our work will last a lifetime! Thanks for the feedback and the extra pointers.
Got a 86 f250 4x4 diesel super cab 6.9 idi. Pulling motor and drivetrain. Lifting cab bed front clip and taking the axles off dropping all gas tanks fuel lines everything. I want to sandblast the frame wash decrease it and seal and prime and paint the frame. I've copied the factory stickers I found including the ones on the frame and had them all repro as the factory had it. Have you ever use pro 15 chassis paint? Or how about lizard skin?
I’d go with the POR-15 myself. I’ve watched videos of lizard skin but haven’t used it. Lots more reviews on POR-15.
What would be the 100% correct way to remove and treat rust?
Depends on who you ask. The key is to mechanically remove the bulk of the rust, grinding, sanding, sandblasting etc. people swear by KBS products found here www.kbs-coatings.com/?AffId=39. I plan on using these products on my next big project “Wallace the 66”.
I used a rust converter on my frame that I bought by the gallon. I used a pump sprayer and it really gets into the nooks and crannies. But the product said no primer needed. So I used a spray in bed liner and it did a good job. Wish I never had to do it again but I've got 2 trucks and the newer one has more rust than my old one so I guess I'll have a winter project this year.
That happened to me when I was grinding rust off a phew leaphs had those wires hit me all over the place they litterly went into me skin and had to go to the hospital a phew hit my kaboose my face my eyes my head fingers and my leg
Yikes!!! Safety first! Cover all the vitals! 😱🤦🏼♂️
@@troysgarage yeah worse then that is the whole wire wheel exploded in peaces thank God it didn't hit the gas line and Jerry cans
Nice work, I loved what you did right up until the "GLOSS" black.. In my humble opinion, never use gloss black on anything that isn't 150% block sanded perfectly flat, otherwise it highlights every single problem and looks like a pile of melted crap. If you sprayed that with a "matte" black it would have looked much better and hid that pitting much better. Just my advice, love the project wanna do my own similar project on a bricknose F-150!
yeah, that's probably true, it does light up every bump and imperfection. Oh well, this is a learning experience. I'll be starting on my next project and use what I've learned on it soon. Picked up a 66 F250, I've dubbed "Wallace the 66", named after the original owner. Follow #wallacethe66 to see that project once I get started on it this summer.
how has the paint been holding up?
We keep the truck under a car cover when we aren’t working on it or driving it. So far the paint is holding up great. No rust breaking through anywhere I’ve seen.
Ok thanks for the reply I may get it for my truck
God I wish I could get my frame off.
Where's the boy? Thought this was a father & son project. Looks like father is doing all the work.
The boy is out service as a Full Time Missionary for our church. He’s headed from North Carolina back to Santiago Chile. He’ll be home and working on the truck again in September 2021! Miss him but love what he’s doing! 🙌🏼
If you do the middle first, you want have to lean over fresh paint.
Hearing and breathing protection required!
How long did this take
Working a couple evenings and then 2 Saturdays. So I guess it took 2 weeks. But total hours was probably like 12 or so.
How come your doing all the work??? If the kid don't have hard work into it he won't appreciate the truck or the grueling work it takes
You have to remember that I used to own this truck too. I'm a little more invested than he is, it's true. However I've told him several times, and he knows, that I get first right of refusal if/when he ever decides to sell the truck. Essentially it's in his name, but it's MINE!!!! hahaha
I’m dumb but what about the front of the frame?
You aren’t dumb for asking. We are hoping to get to that at some future point. We don’t have the space or the time/money for a complete frame off restoration. We are doing the best we can with the budget and space we have available.
Them wire brushes are brutally dangerous lol.
You aren’t kidding! I didn’t show it on camera, but I had little metal spikes sticking through my pants into my legs. One hit my face but didn’t stick me. A face shield would be a good thing to wear when doing this! Glasses and gloves are a minimum for sure! 😱
Nice video any update
Lots of videos beyond Episode 8. Did you even try? 🤷🏼♂️ Go to the playlist and you can spend hours getting caught up. 😜
what about the rest of the frame
I hear ya! We are doing what we can with the resources we have. No space for a total frame off so we are treating what we can as we get to it. More details in the next episodes. Hope you follow along the whole process. It’s been slow but rewarding.
Too bad you didn’t have a portable sand blaster to do it instead of a wire wheel.
Work with what ya got right right? It’s still looking great today. May have some rust to deal with again at some point. But for now I’m still happy with it.
What's that soundtrack name?
The song is "Stranger Danger" available via the RUclips Studio app.
Mask
Wind ;)
Music is louder that your voice and wind noise. unwatchable
My editing skills are improving. Sorry about that. It’s harder than you think to be a RUclips. 🤷🏼♂️