Just ordered the TorqueON CF9. Brilliant video. Many thanks for the review and the decent riding showing what it can do in the right hands (Maybe mine one day, who knows)
Wow! Great review with someone that knows how to ride! First part of the vid looked like Red Bull Hard Line. I would be riding everyday on both of those trails! Some local trials I ride have tight switchbacks for climbing to get to the top of the trail with all types of down hill terrain. Great video with an awesome bike!
I bought this bike in july and have ridden it since then for 2500 km. Its the best decision i made after my cube fully 150mm has been stolen. At the beginning i thought i might be oberbiked but i learned so quick and in one year without riding a normal bike for over 10 years i learned to jump to ride bigger gaps and drops about 2m. If it gets harder and fast you even feel more comfy on it. In general the whole Community is very helfpful and friendly i got to know a lot of people threw this Sport. I also die my first short videos on this Channel😁. To See in your Videos what this bike is capable of judt motivates me. Tranks für the good Videos and give us more jump and technical tutorials. Have a nice ride and sorry for my bad english.
Thanks for the comment buddy, your English is good 👌 Stoked the bike has helped you progress your riding like it has for me 👊 Just keep riding, that’s my plan 👍 Thanks for watching
you are the reason i brought this bike! and as you say, it really is 'the one bike to ride it all'. added some of the same upgrades too with the nukeproof horizon stem/spacers/bars/grips. the only thing that bothered me with the bike, was the birds nest of cabling up front which i still havent sorted 😅 i need to save up for the wireless shifters and dropper post. i kind of like the gap in the frame for the water bottle, except i use the area for fitting my lights battery packs and the exposure light controls.
I am really stoked with my Torque:ON KenRoczen. I really love the water bottle. Only wish it was a tad bigger (which should fit, because there is room te spare). The only downside that i can think of is pedal strikes on more XC/Enduro rides with technical climbs (which i do in pre and post bikepark season). But this wil soon be solved because i ordered some PINND 145mm crank arms to solve this. It really is a one bike to ride it all. I'm so glad i have gone for this bike instead of the Strive:ON. thanks to your reviews and this channel. This bike is just spot on for me. 🤘
You got the Ken Roczen, very nice, and smart move on shorter cranks, I’m looking at 155mm cranks, didn’t even know you could get as short as 145mm! Thanks for the comment buddy, glad you’re loving the bike too 👊👍
Great video for me! I am into the same type of riding you are and love manuals! Tried to manual a YT Decoy and Specialized but struggled seems like the Torque On is easier 🚀. Couple of questions: thought bike was 27.5 F/R but you mentioned mullet so are you 29in with 180mm up front? I am more inclined towards the Strive On as i thought it would be more playful yet your video proofs Torque can play anywhere....have you ridden a Strive On love to hear your thoughts?
Love manuals 👊 Yes the new Torque ON (carbon one) comes mullet 👍 I would love to ride the Strive ON, looks epic, the Torque ON does have the rear shock lower mounted low which gives it way more pop than it should have 👊 Thanks for the comment
@@ForestMountainBiker wow so even though Torque is on the heavy side it has great pop? And also, I noticed you got bucked on some big jumps was it probably to the rebound too fast or just as you mention too much pop?
No worries, it’s a great bike so there should be more out there 🤷♂️ Thanks for the comment, hope you can get one soon, let me know how you get on with it 👊👍🤞
@@ForestMountainBikerplease make a video after you updated the FW of the EP801 to the „new race FW“ with up to 2 meters of overrun! Not sure how much it would help on the torque… my spectral:on did get a IMO noticeable upgrade :) Thank you for sharing!
Great video bro...awesome putting a face to the voice....keep shredding...and that's a great bike... I decided to get the propain Ekano 2 AL... Price was better and I had the newer motor...
Has your x2 cavitated yet? My wheels got destroyed, replaced them with fr541 hope pro5 , had two sets of headset bearings also, but biggest niggle is the x2 only did 300 miles and it’s toast
I have one of these bikes (CF9) and it’s awesome. I have a hydration pack pack and I like using that. For those who hate the water bottle simply don’t fit the water bottle and apply car wrap/contact over it and it looks like a normal top tube, it’s that simple.
I have been absolutely gobbling up any content I can about this bike since I've finally made my decision to purchase this over the Spectral:On. I appreciate your reviews and all of your content as there isn't much out there specifically for this bike. The water bottle put me off a bit when I first saw it but it's grown on me and I'm even toying with the idea of removing it and replacing it with a frame bag as I use a backpack for my water anyway. I'm guessing it won't look as good as I'd want but it would be sick if it does! Now I play the waiting game as the earliest I'll be ready to purchase is July.
I thought the water bottle space could have more accessories like storage etc, no doubt you can make one fit 👍 Worth waiting for, the new ones have ep801 and if you keep watching the Canyon site they may drop the price again 🤞
@@ForestMountainBiker I'm hoping for a sale when I'm ready to purchase but I'm prepared to pay full price because it's still a killer deal! The Roczen is the only version available right now in the US but I'm going for the CF8. I'm riding a Polygon T7 now so I clearly don't need top end components 🤣
@@ForestMountainBiker well, I've made my purchase! But I didn't go for the Torque:On. The reason I was going back and forth between this and the Spectral:On in the first place was because the Strive:On wasn't available in the US. Well now it is and it's on sale for $1000 off!!! I snatched it up immediately and I'm so happy I did! Canyon is doing amazing things with eMTBs right now! 3 rides and 47 miles later, I definitely made the right purchase for me! It's so good!!! Once I get used to the bike and this shitty spring weather clears up, I'll be churning out content on this thing! Even on my first ride I was hitting jumps with loads more confidence than I was in my Polygon T7. 🤘
Great thinking buddy 👌 I do have a 200mm dual crown on the downhill bike, think it would swap, may well give it a go one day, will post a video for sure if I do 👊
Considering a torque on or a strive on. I am not a big jumper maybe do drop-offs of 4 feet and jumps of a meter or two, which is best? Also enjoy natural trails which is best for that? Thanks for any advice.
Have you changed the brakes on this bike? Do you have to drop the motor and battery? I see you removed the dropper cable and shift cable. Did you have to drop the motor. I have this same bike and love it but want to put on Magura brakes
@@ForestMountainBiker Thanks man do you have to take out the battery and then all the cables can move? Do you think the rear brake can be changed without removing the motor?
hey, thanks for your review. really thinking about getting one. what size is yours? im 1.83m tall and the calculator one the canyon site says L oder M ...
Performs well for general riding, but comes alive on bigger/steeper stuff, probably a bit much for general trails but still no slouch, rides like a lighter bike 👍
Yes, there is an alloy Torque ON, only comes in 27.5 wheels (I think) 👍 Yeah you can tune the ep8 via the shimano app. Just don’t try and update anything via the app 😬👍
@@ForestMountainBiker thanks for the video and the reply, read that the allow version is not mullet unfourtanly, whats your opinion about the stiffnes or durability of the carbon torque, talking about crashes, thanks
@@micagas The forks no, all good, the x2 shock I’m servicing with the 2024 seals, great shock when it worked but didn’t last long before needing a good service! 👍
Good question, I’d suggest it’s a bit much if primarily used for family bike trips, but if you do that sometimes but hit trails more often, definitely can do both 👍
Do you set your ebike up differently for jumps and trail riding? Do you run higher pressures or higher sags? Or just 30%in the rear 20%in the front? Just curious thank you in advance.
Not really, generally run the same sag, I aim for 25% front and 25% rear (my personal preference) but when I go to bike parks with big jumps I do add a bit more psi to the front and rear shock so bit more stiff/don’t bottom out 👍
I am relatively novice yet brave(stupid) and love the idea (and trying to) of hitting bigger gaps/drops. Im riding a 170mm travel YT capra at bike parks and have some BPW trips booked for the year, but for laps at the bike park I am considering a Canyon(YT stock levels/cost frustrating!) I feel like a Spectral CF7 with ep801 is a great pick but prefer the downhill bits to any climbing, so thinking the slacker headtube of a torque on may be the way and just be a bit over-biked for a while. Strive still has a battery latch issue or that middle ground would have been it. Arghhh too many choices! Great video.
So many excellent choices out there, being brave and having a great bike will make for an excellent combo 🫡👊 I would choose the Torque for progression if that’s really important, but the Strive or Spectral are the more all rounder choice 👍
Thanks buddy, I did change the stock wheels to some horizon pro v2 wheels, got a 54t ratchet freehub, obnoxiously loud to some, music to me (and you) 😁👍
The bike is awesome. I do not use the strip on the bottle. But the plastic thing at the bottom is a joke, it is easily damaged when hit on rocky technical terrain. Also I'm not very happy with Fox fork and shock. Fork serviced already 2 times in 6 months. X2 shock after full blow off, serviced and rebuild, then rather replaced with Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate which works much more better.
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Just ordered the TorqueON CF9. Brilliant video. Many thanks for the review and the decent riding showing what it can do in the right hands (Maybe mine one day, who knows)
Yeah buddy, thanks for the comment, great spec on the cf9 👌 Enjoy 👊
Wow! Great review with someone that knows how to ride! First part of the vid looked like Red Bull Hard Line. I would be riding everyday on both of those trails! Some local trials I ride have tight switchbacks for climbing to get to the top of the trail with all types of down hill terrain. Great video with an awesome bike!
Thank you for the comment 👍 If it makes you want to ride your bike even a little bit... awesome 🙌 👊
I bought this bike in july and have ridden it since then for 2500 km. Its the best decision i made after my cube fully 150mm has been stolen. At the beginning i thought i might be oberbiked but i learned so quick and in one year without riding a normal bike for over 10 years i learned to jump to ride bigger gaps and drops about 2m. If it gets harder and fast you even feel more comfy on it. In general the whole Community is very helfpful and friendly i got to know a lot of people threw this Sport. I also die my first short videos on this Channel😁. To See in your Videos what this bike is capable of judt motivates me. Tranks für the good Videos and give us more jump and technical tutorials. Have a nice ride and sorry for my bad english.
Thanks for the comment buddy, your English is good 👌 Stoked the bike has helped you progress your riding like it has for me 👊 Just keep riding, that’s my plan 👍 Thanks for watching
Awesome riding. This has been by far the best video review I've watched.
Awesome comment, thank you 🙏
you are the reason i brought this bike! and as you say, it really is 'the one bike to ride it all'. added some of the same upgrades too with the nukeproof horizon stem/spacers/bars/grips.
the only thing that bothered me with the bike, was the birds nest of cabling up front which i still havent sorted 😅 i need to save up for the wireless shifters and dropper post.
i kind of like the gap in the frame for the water bottle, except i use the area for fitting my lights battery packs and the exposure light controls.
Awesome buddy, glad you’re loving the bike also 👊 Same, so many cables, wireless is the expensive cure 😅 Ride your bike yeoh 🫡
Thank you for your reviews on this bike . I bought myself one after watching your first videos. I love it I’ve got nothing bad to say about it . 🤙
Thanks for the comment, yes buddy, glad you’re so stoked on the bike 🤘👊
Price ?
I am really stoked with my Torque:ON KenRoczen. I really love the water bottle. Only wish it was a tad bigger (which should fit, because there is room te spare). The only downside that i can think of is pedal strikes on more XC/Enduro rides with technical climbs (which i do in pre and post bikepark season). But this wil soon be solved because i ordered some PINND 145mm crank arms to solve this. It really is a one bike to ride it all. I'm so glad i have gone for this bike instead of the Strive:ON. thanks to your reviews and this channel. This bike is just spot on for me. 🤘
You got the Ken Roczen, very nice, and smart move on shorter cranks, I’m looking at 155mm cranks, didn’t even know you could get as short as 145mm! Thanks for the comment buddy, glad you’re loving the bike too 👊👍
Also work on the ratching technique is you haven't alreadty..., the you won't hit as often.
Great video for me! I am into the same type of riding you are and love manuals! Tried to manual a YT Decoy and Specialized but struggled seems like the Torque On is easier 🚀. Couple of questions: thought bike was 27.5 F/R but you mentioned mullet so are you 29in with 180mm up front? I am more inclined towards the Strive On as i thought it would be more playful yet your video proofs Torque can play anywhere....have you ridden a Strive On love to hear your thoughts?
Love manuals 👊 Yes the new Torque ON (carbon one) comes mullet 👍 I would love to ride the Strive ON, looks epic, the Torque ON does have the rear shock lower mounted low which gives it way more pop than it should have 👊 Thanks for the comment
@@ForestMountainBiker wow so even though Torque is on the heavy side it has great pop? And also, I noticed you got bucked on some big jumps was it probably to the rebound too fast or just as you mention too much pop?
@@rataflas lol, the bucks are my riding most likely 😅 Definitely has a lot of pop though, rides lighter than it weighs in at👌
@ForestMountainBiker good deal! Keep up those nice videos 🚀
Thanks for doing these reviews! Not much out there on this bike . I will buy this as soon as it's available again in the States.
No worries, it’s a great bike so there should be more out there 🤷♂️ Thanks for the comment, hope you can get one soon, let me know how you get on with it 👊👍🤞
@@ForestMountainBikerplease make a video after you updated the FW of the EP801 to the „new race FW“ with up to 2 meters of overrun! Not sure how much it would help on the torque… my spectral:on did get a IMO noticeable upgrade :) Thank you for sharing!
Great video bro...awesome putting a face to the voice....keep shredding...and that's a great bike... I decided to get the propain Ekano 2 AL... Price was better and I had the newer motor...
Fair, the Ekano 2 looks really nice, great choice 👌 Thanks for the comment buddy 👊🫡
Brill video I think I’m getting addicted to this channel 👍
Legend, thanks buddy 👊👍
@@ForestMountainBiker no problem you are just so great as most RUclips creators are from America and you show local areas 🤙
@@Archiewoody hero comment 👊 Keep watching buddy, more local riding to come 🫡
@@ForestMountainBiker splendid hope to meet you one day 🤙
Don't suppose you'd mind sharing the names of some of those trails?
I don’t know the names but it’s filmed around Mallards Pike in FoD, loads of off piste there 👍
Has your x2 cavitated yet? My wheels got destroyed, replaced them with fr541 hope pro5 , had two sets of headset bearings also, but biggest niggle is the x2 only did 300 miles and it’s toast
I’ve got through one headset and replaced the x2 with new vivid (more reliable I reckon) and also changed the wheels 👍😅 We got stories 😂
I have one of these bikes (CF9) and it’s awesome. I have a hydration pack pack and I like using that. For those who hate the water bottle simply don’t fit the water bottle and apply car wrap/contact over it and it looks like a normal top tube, it’s that simple.
Thanks for your comment buddy, makes sense, I’ve embraced the water bottle but I get there will be those that don’t, great solution 👌👍
I have been absolutely gobbling up any content I can about this bike since I've finally made my decision to purchase this over the Spectral:On. I appreciate your reviews and all of your content as there isn't much out there specifically for this bike. The water bottle put me off a bit when I first saw it but it's grown on me and I'm even toying with the idea of removing it and replacing it with a frame bag as I use a backpack for my water anyway. I'm guessing it won't look as good as I'd want but it would be sick if it does! Now I play the waiting game as the earliest I'll be ready to purchase is July.
I thought the water bottle space could have more accessories like storage etc, no doubt you can make one fit 👍 Worth waiting for, the new ones have ep801 and if you keep watching the Canyon site they may drop the price again 🤞
@@ForestMountainBiker I'm hoping for a sale when I'm ready to purchase but I'm prepared to pay full price because it's still a killer deal! The Roczen is the only version available right now in the US but I'm going for the CF8. I'm riding a Polygon T7 now so I clearly don't need top end components 🤣
@@omahamtb6580 The Roczen is rather nice 👌 I went CF8 and added some stuff 👍 Let me know how you get on with the bike when you get it 👍👍🤞
@@ForestMountainBiker well, I've made my purchase! But I didn't go for the Torque:On. The reason I was going back and forth between this and the Spectral:On in the first place was because the Strive:On wasn't available in the US. Well now it is and it's on sale for $1000 off!!! I snatched it up immediately and I'm so happy I did! Canyon is doing amazing things with eMTBs right now! 3 rides and 47 miles later, I definitely made the right purchase for me! It's so good!!! Once I get used to the bike and this shitty spring weather clears up, I'll be churning out content on this thing! Even on my first ride I was hitting jumps with loads more confidence than I was in my Polygon T7. 🤘
@@omahamtb6580 Yeah buddy, stoked for you, the Strive On with that discount is a great buy, sounds like you already know that 👌🤙
Is it possible to mount a dual crown fork with the headset routing? Seems like a perfect fit for this bike!
Great thinking buddy 👌 I do have a 200mm dual crown on the downhill bike, think it would swap, may well give it a go one day, will post a video for sure if I do 👊
@@ForestMountainBiker 🤘🤘
Considering a torque on or a strive on. I am not a big jumper maybe do drop-offs of 4 feet and jumps of a meter or two, which is best? Also enjoy natural trails which is best for that? Thanks for any advice.
Probably the Strive On for more enduro riding buddy, both great bikes though 👍
Looking to buy this bike. My question is it a good climber due to the long travel etc
It’s a comfy climber, seating position is good, huge battery and powerful motor, but it comes alive when you point it downhill really 👍
hi what is the size of your cf torque
what size are you
THANKS
Frame is large and I’m 6 foot 👍
@@ForestMountainBiker ok Frame M or L ?
@@davidfauvelet2163 Frame is large 👍
Mine arrives today! CF8 in size large...
Yeah buddy 👊 New bike day is the best day 👌👍👍
@@ForestMountainBiker Heck ya!
Have you changed the brakes on this bike? Do you have to drop the motor and battery? I see you removed the dropper cable and shift cable. Did you have to drop the motor. I have this same bike and love it but want to put on Magura brakes
Haven’t changed the brakes buddy, just the dropper and drivetrain, haven’t needed to touch the motor 👍
@@ForestMountainBiker Thanks man do you have to take out the battery and then all the cables can move? Do you think the rear brake can be changed without removing the motor?
@@trailpimp6369 I reckon you should be able to thread the brake cable through, but don’t know, I’ve never touched the motor myself 👍
where is the palce you showed on your first crash
Ah, I remember that one! Slab track @ Dyfi Bike Park 👍
hey,
thanks for your review. really thinking about getting one.
what size is yours?
im 1.83m tall and the calculator one the canyon site says L oder M ...
Thanks for the comment buddy 👍 Size large 👍
awesome. also based in (near) FOD, and will most likely push the button on one of these, so see you around 😉
yeah buddy, still haven’t seen anyone else around on FOD on the Torque ON so will keep an eye and say hello for sure 👍
How is it performing on uphills and general riding like normal trails in the woods with uphills and downhills?
Performs well for general riding, but comes alive on bigger/steeper stuff, probably a bit much for general trails but still no slouch, rides like a lighter bike 👍
Its good to see someone who knows how to ride, doing the review. good job got a new follower. Saludos desde Madrid!!!
Hola mi amigo! Gracias 🙏 Thanks for the comment and for the sub 👍
Is there alloy version of this bike? That Shimano ep8 isn't tuneable with an app like the bosch smart system right?
Thanks
Yes, there is an alloy Torque ON, only comes in 27.5 wheels (I think) 👍 Yeah you can tune the ep8 via the shimano app. Just don’t try and update anything via the app 😬👍
@@ForestMountainBiker thanks for the video and the reply, read that the allow version is not mullet unfourtanly,
whats your opinion about the stiffnes or durability of the carbon torque, talking about crashes, thanks
@@micagas That carbon frame is really well built, can take a lot for sure 👍🫡
thanks for the reply, any problems with the fox rhythm grip and the x float 2 forks?@@ForestMountainBiker
@@micagas The forks no, all good, the x2 shock I’m servicing with the 2024 seals, great shock when it worked but didn’t last long before needing a good service! 👍
Hello is this bike suitable as one-4-all? How would it feel for common biketrip with family?
Good question, I’d suggest it’s a bit much if primarily used for family bike trips, but if you do that sometimes but hit trails more often, definitely can do both 👍
Do you set your ebike up differently for jumps and trail riding? Do you run higher pressures or higher sags? Or just 30%in the rear 20%in the front? Just curious thank you in advance.
Not really, generally run the same sag, I aim for 25% front and 25% rear (my personal preference) but when I go to bike parks with big jumps I do add a bit more psi to the front and rear shock so bit more stiff/don’t bottom out 👍
I am relatively novice yet brave(stupid) and love the idea (and trying to) of hitting bigger gaps/drops. Im riding a 170mm travel YT capra at bike parks and have some BPW trips booked for the year, but for laps at the bike park I am considering a Canyon(YT stock levels/cost frustrating!) I feel like a Spectral CF7 with ep801 is a great pick but prefer the downhill bits to any climbing, so thinking the slacker headtube of a torque on may be the way and just be a bit over-biked for a while. Strive still has a battery latch issue or that middle ground would have been it. Arghhh too many choices! Great video.
So many excellent choices out there, being brave and having a great bike will make for an excellent combo 🫡👊 I would choose the Torque for progression if that’s really important, but the Strive or Spectral are the more all rounder choice 👍
what's the hubs you got there??
Nukeproof Horizons pro hubs, they sound awesome, 54 tooth ratchet freehub 👌🫡
@@ForestMountainBiker Sounds cool. How loud compared to the normal ones??
@@boxinggloves87 Think they’re louder but in a nice whirr you know you’re going fast kind of way… 🤷♂️👍
Iam about to buy it. Only Thing ist my first Canyon and IAM nur sure what size to get with 185cm height? L would be the best option no?
I’m a similar height and went large 👍
@@ForestMountainBiker and from what i see it suits you very well. :) did you make any modifications on your bike?
@@hyyenaA Thank you 👊 Yeah, if you see my latest vid on the bike (2 months ago) upgraded the fork and shock to a zeb and vivid 👍
Which handlebars do you drive?
Nukeproof Horizons V2 38mm rise 👍
2:55 what country sre these trails in? 😂 thats wild!
That’s a local off piste track in Forest of Dean, England 🏴 🫡 Thanks for the comment 👍
@ForestMountainBiker well damn I never expected it to be home turf 🤯 expected it to be European
Damn dude, those were some serious sends on a bike that's 53 lbs.
Thank you buddy 👍 Rides like a lighter bike when you’ve got the flow 👍
Just ordered mine last week....25% sale on right now btw 👀
Nice, bargain buddy, that’s a lot of bike for the money, enjoy 👊👍
Great review, did you say stock wheels? Did you swap out the rear hub? Sounds a great buzz 😊
Thanks buddy, I did change the stock wheels to some horizon pro v2 wheels, got a 54t ratchet freehub, obnoxiously loud to some, music to me (and you) 😁👍
@ForestMountainBiker Nice, got the same rear wheel but with the 102t hub 😀 different buzz, not as loud maybe.
@@OldBeanMTB Had the horizon cassette freehub before, also a beautiful whirr 👌👍
Did you get a RUclips hoodie! 😂
Maybe… 😂👍
The bike is awesome. I do not use the strip on the bottle.
But the plastic thing at the bottom is a joke, it is easily damaged when hit on rocky technical terrain.
Also I'm not very happy with Fox fork and shock. Fork serviced already 2 times in 6 months. X2 shock after full blow off, serviced and rebuild, then rather replaced with Rockshox Super Deluxe Ultimate which works much more better.
Thanks for the comments 👍 The x2 shock I found to be unreliable so changed to vivid air and I’m loving it also 👌👍