This is hands down the most impressive rimfire rifle I’ve ever fired. The extreme accuracy this rifle exhibits makes it a perfect fit both varmint hunting and bench shooting alike.
I tried reaching out to cci about making ammunition but they arent sure that there would be enough support. Could you mention in a future .17 wsm video to have people reach out to cci so they see how much it would sell? More ammunition offerings would be fantastic for all of us
Super nice rifle and that is great shooting for a WSM. I looked hard at these 5-7 years ago, it is a cool idea. I already had a 17 HMR so I went with a Savage M25 in 17 Hornet. I absolutely love the Hornet, loading for it is huge for me here in CA where we can’t order ammo. In a perfect world I think the WSM would be really cool but I hate being at the mercy of what’s in stock and what people charge for it.
I hear you. I've got a couple of cases of the lead-free 17WSM ammo, specifically for California hunting. When that runs out, it will be hard to replace!
I have had my Savage Bmag with heavy stainless barrel and thumbhole laminated stock since 2015. I agree it won't group quite as well but.... it's pretty close. Anything within 200 yards is dead for sure. It is one of my favorite rifles. Mine shoots the 20gr better than the 25gr as well. I wish ammo was more available, good job I had 1000+ rounds before the current crisis. I ended up buying a 17HMR as well as that ammo is always available. The 17 caliber is accurate and fun!!!
I have had my Savage about 5 years now. I have tinkered with it a fair bit. It doesn’t shoot as well, I call it a 1 1/2moa gun and that I believe is an ammo issue FPS is all over the place and I don’t think it is an ignition problem with the firing pin. I have a fair stock pile of ammo and still buy it when I find it at a good price. I just have a hard time dropping 3k on a rig I don’t shoot at least once a month. I will stick with the ugly Savage unless I decide to build one myself.
@@varmintermagazine if not mistaken, Winchester owns Olin which makes the 27 caliber nail gun cartridge. They just made dies to put a shoulder/neck on the case.
@@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 - That is correct (Olin owns Winchester) . But, the Olin cartridge is where many of the inconsistencies lie. If Winchester drew their own brass and stopped using the Olin cartridges, they could control the quality and produce a higher quality, more consistent case/cartridge.
good information totally agree. I wouldn’t even consider any other rifle in rimfire if they made the ammunition better, aka match grade ammo.. the 22 is popular because you can get a lot of different ammunition and a lot of different match grade ammunition. One hole groups all day long if they made match grade ammunition in 17 WSM.
I would be really interested in a side by side comparison of chrono readings. Curious if it is an ignition issue with the reading of + or - up to 250fps out of the same box/lot.
We are going to try. In the meantime, our original Volquartsen review. This is the portion where we speak about the accuracy of the Volquartsen. ruclips.net/video/QEmhl2eQoUw/видео.html
I shoot a Volquartsen 17 WSM. I've shot all the ammo you mentioned and throughout all have had more than my share of failure to detonate. Very solid primer strikes, have you notices the same? As for the cartridge, it is an absolute dream to shoot and accuracy as you mention. I shoot hogs with it, only head shooting. What was the cost of that build? Great production
I have trouble with the American Eagle ammo FTF. With the help of Primal Rights and Aaron at Zermatt it’s down to 1 every 25ish rounds. It likes the new lead free 15 gr Winchester
Where did you find the 25 gr AMMO? I've got 1500 of the 20, would really like to try the 25gr on hogs. Just went to the site, 5K is bucks for sure. I don't know I can justify, though it certainly is tempting. Like you I may just have to sell a few items!
I’ve shot many savage .17s and I’m yet to pick 1 up that didn’t shoot lights out. Hard to justify the price of this rifle when I could buy 7-10 savage rifles for the same price.
I agree awesome gun awesome stuff. The only complaint I have is that the manufacturers are over crimping the damn bullets to the point where it’s causing an imprint in the bullet. It’s unfortunate that other manufactures don’t make loaded ammunition, and 17 WSM and match grade if they did, this literally would just shoot hole hole into one hole. …. ammunition is every issue with this unfortunately it could be even better. I would love to run my own company and just make this ammunition just to show what you can do with this.
Just did a search on AMMOSEEK. 25 grainers....$1.56/round, 20 grainers....$1.40/round. And i thought my 17 Hornet was bad at $30-$36 box(for 25 rounds).
Shot a half dozen savage b mag target rifles in .17wsm and .17hmr and they all shoot those groups or better. I know the actions suck but they are very accurate. Maybe not in the base model plastic stock. Fraction of the price. To each there own
I own 13 other 17WSM rifles and none shoot as well as this one. I adopted the 17WSM as soon as it was released and haven't looked back. The more advancements we see with rifles chambered in this cartridge, the better off we will all be due to competition!
How many 17wsm rifles did u compare it to? Cuz there's barely anything Factory nor custom( even if, same action used) out there... Of course this will most likely be the most Accurate you've shot. Lol.. Not enuff rifles to compare with each other brother ....... regardless, I'm wanting to build one too, just because there's no Quality Factory built 17wsm, that's my reasoning for a Zematti built receiver 17wsm.
You must have missed the numerous times I have posted this, but I'll state it again. I own 13 rifles chambered in the 17WSM cartridge. This does not include the 5 that I sold. Manufacturers include Savage, Volquartsen, TC Contender MGM, Franklin Armory, JARD, Ruger and Primal Rights. I have the experience with other rifles to make the statement I did. I don't BS my way through this. Everything we publish is based on our actual experience.
@@dimebag6982 - I don't have a link, other than my own. I work closely with Winchester and know the engineer who helped bring it to market. I've also helped them test prototype 17WSM ammo in the past, that did not make it to market. However, you can easily check by looking at any box of 17WSM ammunition's lot #s. They are all in the Winchester format.
you should try a .20 Vartarg....you'd like it better......40 gr Hornady V-Max goes out of my 25" bbl @ 3450 fps....... bbls last 25000 rnds, (yes 25 THOUSAND rnds).... and the accuracy is better than the .17 WSM by a MILE....why? you ask? because you can LOAD for the Vartarg, and the .17 WSM factory ammo SUX.......my longest kill is 327 yds on an OryGun Digger squirrell, and it wasn't a fluke, cause the next rnd down the bbl took out his buddy @ 309 yds.....OnWard......
I shoot/handload for the 17 Remington, 17 Fireball, 17 Hornet, 20 Tactical, 204 Ruger, 218 Bee, 22 Hornet, 221 Fireball and many others. Oftentimes, for the type of hunting/shooting I do, the 17WSM is perfect.
17 WSM is to handy to grab and go and not worry about loosing a piece of $1+ brass. I look like a prairie dog crawling around looking when I do shoot center fire.
Nice rifle absolutely ignorant price tag! My guess is they’ll price their selves right out of the market by lack of sales! I’m a huge 17wsm fan but it’s not worth half that price!
I 100 percent agree. Iv shot many savage .17s that will shoot with this gun all day long.. could buy 7-10 savage rifles for this price. I like and own many expensive rifles… I just think this one is very overpriced especially when you are still limited to factory ammo.
@@Weatherby406 - Let's do a competition. We'll shoot against each other. I'll use this rifle and you can use any Savage 17WSM rifle you currently own. I'm in Idaho. Let me know where you live and we can meet somewhere in the middle. How does 1k to the winner sound?
@@sky-tec - Hmm. Where's your hunting videos, guns, etc? I can't seem to find them on your channel. Is it possible you aren't old enough to own guns, or is it due to a criminal record? 🤔
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How much does that rifle cost you
That rifle looks incredible, I wished that.more manufacturers made a version of the 17 WSM.
It is a well thought-out, well made rifle, for sure!
This is hands down the most impressive rimfire rifle I’ve ever fired. The extreme accuracy this rifle exhibits makes it a perfect fit both varmint hunting and bench shooting alike.
I tried reaching out to cci about making ammunition but they arent sure that there would be enough support. Could you mention in a future .17 wsm video to have people reach out to cci so they see how much it would sell? More ammunition offerings would be fantastic for all of us
Now imagine if a company like CZ or Bergara started making their Rimfires with a 17 WSM option
It would be amazing.
CZ 452 in 17wsm l will take 2 please
Super nice rifle and that is great shooting for a WSM. I looked hard at these 5-7 years ago, it is a cool idea. I already had a 17 HMR so I went with a Savage M25 in 17 Hornet. I absolutely love the Hornet, loading for it is huge for me here in CA where we can’t order ammo. In a perfect world I think the WSM would be really cool but I hate being at the mercy of what’s in stock and what people charge for it.
I hear you. I've got a couple of cases of the lead-free 17WSM ammo, specifically for California hunting. When that runs out, it will be hard to replace!
@@varmintermagazine for sure. That rifle platform is fantastic.
Incredible video Eric! Fine shooting! Clad Roosevelt Dime? Where's that lucky silver Mercury....LOL
I've got it still! This time I didn't have it with me.
Need more 17 WSM rifle options
Such a cool caliber
Great review and very clear resolution.
Thanks!
Holy cow; that was impressive. I appreciate the detail!
Thanks! As you know, it's tough jamming everything into a 12 minute video, but the article is where I really explain my thoughts in even more detail!!
My savage 17 wsm with a vortex 2-7x 35 is a rabbit tack driver...with 20 and 25 grain...works great
Great work as usual. Thank you for sharing :)
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Right on guys thanks for the video👍🏾👍🏾✌
I want this rifle. Awesome channel man.
Thank you!!
I have had my Savage Bmag with heavy stainless barrel and thumbhole laminated stock since 2015. I agree it won't group quite as well but.... it's pretty close. Anything within 200 yards is dead for sure. It is one of my favorite rifles. Mine shoots the 20gr better than the 25gr as well. I wish ammo was more available, good job I had 1000+ rounds before the current crisis. I ended up buying a 17HMR as well as that ammo is always available. The 17 caliber is accurate and fun!!!
I have had my Savage about 5 years now. I have tinkered with it a fair bit. It doesn’t shoot as well, I call it a 1 1/2moa gun and that I believe is an ammo issue FPS is all over the place and I don’t think it is an ignition problem with the firing pin.
I have a fair stock pile of ammo and still buy it when I find it at a good price. I just have a hard time dropping 3k on a rig I don’t shoot at least once a month.
I will stick with the ugly Savage unless I decide to build one myself.
Have to agree, 7K for a rifle . The only .17 wsm I can find right now on line is $72 for 50 rds. It’s the B mag for now.
Always wanted a nice 17WSM rifle.
Everyone deserves a nice rifle in a fun cartridge! More to come on this type of build.
Beautiful rifle. It shoots very well.
Did you have any failure to fire with the American Eagle ammunition?
Slick rifle for sure. I miss Idaho from time to time
I've only been here 6 years, but I know I won't ever leave.
Wow that's pretty impressive! I wonder if they make a left handed bolt action
Probably not, unfortunately. Lefties always get less options!
That’s a very nice shooting rifle! Imagine how small your groups would be if someone made match 17 WSM ammo.
I wish Winchester would draw their own brass. That alone would bring more consistency to the ammunition.
@@varmintermagazine if not mistaken, Winchester owns Olin which makes the 27 caliber nail gun cartridge. They just made dies to put a shoulder/neck on the case.
@@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 - That is correct (Olin owns Winchester) . But, the Olin cartridge is where many of the inconsistencies lie. If Winchester drew their own brass and stopped using the Olin cartridges, they could control the quality and produce a higher quality, more consistent case/cartridge.
good information totally agree. I wouldn’t even consider any other rifle in rimfire if they made the ammunition better, aka match grade ammo.. the 22 is popular because you can get a lot of different ammunition and a lot of different match grade ammunition.
One hole groups all day long if they made match grade ammunition in 17 WSM.
Hard to beat this cartridge. Great video. How about a 1000 round update in the future?
Definitely! At some point, I will be doing a live range test. Also, you'll see a lot more "revisits".
Looks like 17 WSM ammo prices are exceeding 17 Hornet prices now, if you can find the ammo. I hope it doesn't turn out like the 5 mm Rem. Rimfire Mag.
I found your magazine by accident Tacoma Bass Pro. Great articles! They stopped carrying it around Christmas. Do you know the reason?
Unfortunately, it was not us. We are online only and have been since 1997! Thanks for checking out our stuff though!
I would be really interested in a side by side comparison of chrono readings. Curious if it is an ignition issue with the reading of + or - up to 250fps out of the same box/lot.
We can add that to a follow-up article/video. I'm now interested as well.
Can you compare it to the Volquartsen SM WSM
Would like to see it
We are going to try. In the meantime, our original Volquartsen review. This is the portion where we speak about the accuracy of the Volquartsen. ruclips.net/video/QEmhl2eQoUw/видео.html
Do you have an Australian importer? I would really like one of these.
I shoot a Volquartsen 17 WSM. I've shot all the ammo you mentioned and throughout all have had more than my share of failure to detonate. Very solid primer strikes, have you notices the same? As for the cartridge, it is an absolute dream to shoot and accuracy as you mention.
I shoot hogs with it, only head shooting. What was the cost of that build? Great production
Check out the link to their site in the description. Thanks for the kind words!
I have trouble with the American Eagle ammo FTF. With the help of Primal Rights and Aaron at Zermatt it’s down to 1 every 25ish rounds. It likes the new lead free 15 gr Winchester
Where did you find the 25 gr AMMO? I've got 1500 of the 20, would really like to try the 25gr on hogs. Just went to the site, 5K is bucks for sure. I don't know I can justify, though it certainly is tempting. Like you I may just have to sell a few items!
I found some locally and also had some in my stash.
I’ve shot many savage .17s and I’m yet to pick 1 up that didn’t shoot lights out. Hard to justify the price of this rifle when I could buy 7-10 savage rifles for the same price.
I own two Savage B.MAGs. This one does significantly better accuracy wise.
The Zermatt Rimx action is amazing.
Wow awesome set-up 👌👌.
Wee struggle to get 17wsm ammo here uk 👎
Thanks! Seems to be a struggle everywhere right now. I'm hoping it starts showing up more regularly soon.
Love my 17wsm
Its silent, seems alot quieter than tge 17 hmr?
The video doesn't pick up sound well. From my experience, with the same suppressor, the 17HMR is slightly quieter.
Where can you find the ammo?
Gun Broker
What was the build cost?
I agree awesome gun awesome stuff. The only complaint I have is that the manufacturers are over crimping the damn bullets to the point where it’s causing an imprint in the bullet. It’s unfortunate that other manufactures don’t make loaded ammunition, and 17 WSM and match grade if they did, this literally would just shoot hole hole into one hole. …. ammunition is every issue with this unfortunately it could be even better. I would love to run my own company and just make this ammunition just to show what you can do with this.
Wish I could find some ammo.
Gun Broker
@@varmintermagazine thank you
Good stuff!
Thanks!
Is there a video where you actually shoot the gun?
Yeah. The one you are watching???
Sweet rifle
It certainly is!
I did just a small amount of work to mine straight off the shelf shoots the same way
Just did a search on AMMOSEEK. 25 grainers....$1.56/round, 20 grainers....$1.40/round. And i thought my 17 Hornet was bad at $30-$36 box(for 25 rounds).
I picked up 1000 rounds 0f 20 grain Winchester from Scheeles online three weeks ago for 42 cents per round delivered. Its beginning to show up again.
🤣 🤣.. 4,700 to 5,100.. nope.. I'll stick with my marlin 17hmr that shoots sub MOA
These people are fkn crazy! $5k for a rimfire? Good luck selling enough to make any $$$. Knock it down to $500 and maybe?
Sweet rifle , horrific price tag .
Shot a half dozen savage b mag target rifles in .17wsm and .17hmr and they all shoot those groups or better. I know the actions suck but they are very accurate. Maybe not in the base model plastic stock. Fraction of the price. To each there own
I own 13 other 17WSM rifles and none shoot as well as this one. I adopted the 17WSM as soon as it was released and haven't looked back. The more advancements we see with rifles chambered in this cartridge, the better off we will all be due to competition!
Love the concept and performance but that price makes me cry😂
How many 17wsm rifles did u compare it to? Cuz there's barely anything Factory nor custom( even if, same action used) out there... Of course this will most likely be the most Accurate you've shot. Lol.. Not enuff rifles to compare with each other brother ....... regardless, I'm wanting to build one too, just because there's no Quality Factory built 17wsm, that's my reasoning for a Zematti built receiver 17wsm.
You must have missed the numerous times I have posted this, but I'll state it again. I own 13 rifles chambered in the 17WSM cartridge. This does not include the 5 that I sold. Manufacturers include Savage, Volquartsen, TC Contender MGM, Franklin Armory, JARD, Ruger and Primal Rights. I have the experience with other rifles to make the statement I did. I don't BS my way through this. Everything we publish is based on our actual experience.
Damn if I only had the money
Tell me about it!
either i clicked the wrong link when searching it up but 4500-5200 bucks?
Yep.
ZERO ammo to be found anywhere which is totally crazy.
Hopefully, there will be a run soon!
Nice can
Thanks! Griffin Optimus Micro.
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American eagle is made by federal not Winchester……..
No it is not. It is rebranded, made by Winchester. As of today, ALL 17WSM ammunition is made by Winchester.
@@varmintermagazine Would you be able to provide a link to prove this. I am very interested!
@@dimebag6982 - I don't have a link, other than my own. I work closely with Winchester and know the engineer who helped bring it to market. I've also helped them test prototype 17WSM ammo in the past, that did not make it to market. However, you can easily check by looking at any box of 17WSM ammunition's lot #s. They are all in the Winchester format.
All the .17 wsm ammo is made by Winchester regardless of which box it’s in.. very commonly know information in the .17 community.
@@dimebag6982 VM is correct. Winchester owns Olin which makes the 27 caliber nail gun cartridge. They just necked it down.
When is savage going to finally put out the A17 WSM? They should have never announced them when they couldn't come good. Pathetic!
I'm hoping soon!
you should try a .20 Vartarg....you'd like it better......40 gr Hornady V-Max goes out of my 25" bbl @ 3450 fps....... bbls last 25000 rnds, (yes 25 THOUSAND rnds)....
and the accuracy is better than the .17 WSM by a MILE....why? you ask? because you can LOAD for the Vartarg, and the .17 WSM factory ammo SUX.......my longest kill is 327 yds on an OryGun Digger squirrell, and it wasn't a fluke, cause the next rnd down the bbl took out his buddy @ 309 yds.....OnWard......
I shoot/handload for the 17 Remington, 17 Fireball, 17 Hornet, 20 Tactical, 204 Ruger, 218 Bee, 22 Hornet, 221 Fireball and many others. Oftentimes, for the type of hunting/shooting I do, the 17WSM is perfect.
17 WSM is to handy to grab and go and not worry about loosing a piece of $1+ brass. I look like a prairie dog crawling around looking when I do shoot center fire.
Nice rifle absolutely ignorant price tag! My guess is they’ll price their selves right out of the market by lack of sales!
I’m a huge 17wsm fan but it’s not worth half that price!
Well, I bought one and their last run sold out. I sold a couple of new in box Volquartsen 17WSMs to fund this. For what I do, it is worthwhile to me.
I 100 percent agree. Iv shot many savage .17s that will shoot with this gun all day long.. could buy 7-10 savage rifles for this price. I like and own many expensive rifles… I just think this one is very overpriced especially when you are still limited to factory ammo.
@@Weatherby406 - Let's do a competition. We'll shoot against each other. I'll use this rifle and you can use any Savage 17WSM rifle you currently own. I'm in Idaho. Let me know where you live and we can meet somewhere in the middle. How does 1k to the winner sound?
@@Weatherby406 I’d like to witness this competition myself.
my b mag shoots good like that.
The gum chewing killed the whole thing
One minute, out of a 12 minute video, killed it for you? 🤣
@@varmintermagazine worse than nails on a chalkboard, through the one part of the video I cared about 🤷🏻♂️
@@Poor_Boy_Precision - I'm firing the gum chewing guy! No more of that crap!
Imagine chewing gum loudly while making a video with ASMR quality audio. Turned off at the 3 minute mark because I felt like I was being violated
I know! Due to my over-sensitivity to environmental noises, offensive comments and dead animals, I couldn't watch the whole thing either. 😢
@@varmintermagazine At least it freed up your time to do things like buy more gum, blow your boyfriend, and vote for Biden
@@sky-tec - Hmm. Where's your hunting videos, guns, etc? I can't seem to find them on your channel. Is it possible you aren't old enough to own guns, or is it due to a criminal record? 🤔
@@varmintermagazine oh boy you got me. let me know how your 17wsm is working out next time you buy a brick of ammo for it.. oh wait 😂
@@sky-tec I see you’re a proud member of the extra chromosome club.
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9lb rifle is not light. Browning rifle is way lighter.
For a bench gun, it is light. Unfortunately, Browning does not make a rifle chambered in .17WSM.
i'm too poor to even watch the review of this rifle.
I hear you!
Are you chewing gum?😮
Great caliber but no ammunition available they have quit making it. Do not buy this caliber!!!
Not true! I bought some a few weeks ago. Online, Walmart and Academy. Stop posting this on our videos.
Apparently you haven’t even looked. Quit spreading lies