Hello Ladies, just want to say, I really enjoy your show and missing Mariam. Now just 4 points about polygamy 1. Culture /Tradition : Polygamy was established in all cultures--European, Arab, African, as a way of life before Christianity and Education. Culturally polygamy served 3 purposes 1. They and their children were a labour-force for agriculture etc 2. A symbol of wealth 3. In the event of sickness / disease, death, there are children, esp the male heir, to carry on the family name 4. Lust/Love as the case may be. Now please remember that Christianity is NOT an oyinbo thing, but from the Middle East, which was brought to Europe by the first Jewish Christians. In full acceptance of Christianity, European culture and polygamy then formally ended in Europe .Please remember Paul's journey to Cyprus and Malta. Joseph of Arimethea is credited to be first missionary in England. Also culture just means traditions, peoples way of doing things. So not sure why African Christians hide under banner of culture to propagate polygamy. 2. Religion : The origin of Christianity in Europe has been discussed. Prior to that time, in Genesis, it was monogamy--Adam and Eve. Polygamy seems to be a very permissive, man-made thing. For Muslims, going back to the time of Abraham who is a father, in Islam, he had only one wife. Hagar was a slave girl give to him by Sarah and see the problems caused till today. As far as I know, Islam permits up to 4 wives if a man is able to love and care for them equally, which I don't think is ever possible.. So again in Islam, it would appear polygamy is not the standard, but is permissive. 3. Education : Hopefully, the more educated men are, the more monogamous they should be. Men determine the sex of their children by their X or Y chromosome. A man should employ his mind to gainful activities- e.g social development, doesn't even have to be a politician, sports etc to discipline his mind and body , so he can focus on one wife and family. I think this is the category most nollywood celebrities with two/ three baby mamas or wives have sadly fallen out of. Their platform could have been better used for socio-economic development rather than polygamy and baby mama news. 4. Economy: The Nigerian economy is in seriously bad shape and this has encouraged a resurgence of polygamy, where young girls enter polygamy primarily to get a "better life". Hope this helps and just to say, not judging, but contributing facts.
Why is it that we don’t want to accept that polygamy has caused Nigeria to be a nation without consciousness. I have not heard from a single person that they enjoyed living in a polygamous home. A lot of men will say to you that you know the man you married when it comes down to it, but honestly we don’t. We are denying the effects and trauma that come with polygamy. I know many young women that have just decided not to marry altogether due to trauma of seeing their mother’s always grieving. I will tell any women that if it is not working pull your life together and move on. We cannot continue to let men tie up the destiny’s of their wives and children.
Wow! 😱Once he said, "I don't believe in divorce. Even when she's treated wrongly", I checked out. Like one of the ladies said, "I'm glad he's not my brother".
@@thehunted316 who said I'm running to another? 🙄 There are good men out there and I'm happy to wait till I find the right one before entering another. Well done 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 and thank you for confirming by your comment that women don't deserve good men and should be content with accepting nonsense, just as long as he can call himself a man. Here's a novel idea for you. Why not aim to help society by being a better man. #thenarrativehastochange
@@thehunted316 what makes you thinking a woman leaving a marriage must go to another man. What if she choose to face her business/career, kids and her spiritually as apostle Paul said?
In this issue of polygamy I think women just need to know they do have a choice to be in polygamous marriage or not, if you are happy in it fine, and women needs to make it clear before marriage whether or not they want to be in one or not if polygamy is a thing in yr society
self control? if y`all had self control, you would all be virgins before marriage. Hypocrisy is when the most promiscuous women in the world want faithfulness after fucking different men in their youth.
What will you say to those women who are marrying a married man. Don't focus on just man alone.if there's no market for stolen goods, no one will thief.
@@benedictiribhogbe5686 if he was vocal and said the mind of men, they would have attacked him. he is smart. go to Twitter and see men`s opinion about these things. Men believe that if they have to have money before being accepted then they should the freedom to choose as many side chicks as they want IF they are rich. Everyone is happy!
He speaks his mind, I don't understand what you expect him to say. I tried to be extra careful because the issue is about men, very sensitive. For me, he speaks very well.
I'm sorry, why is no one talking about the new testament when it comes to polygamy being supported by the bible? Jesus made reference to it in Matthew 19:4-5. He said and the two shall become one flesh not 3 not 4. Please let's get our facts right. Matthew 19:9 even explains further that putting your wife away and marrying another is adultery. Please let's not stutter when we want to say that Christianity is against polygamy.
@@suntangloryIt's talking about marriage. Simply saying that marriage is between one man and one woman. What is the misinterpretation of scripture there?
@@jemimaokonkwo8288 He said the two shall become one flesh not one. The verse is simply teaching you to use your head basically. Be joined to your mind, which is the spirit man within and let both become one flesh. It is practically impossible for two human beings to be one flesh. Even if you think like someone else, think alike, you are more one in spirit than in flesh. If a man and a woman are one flesh due to marriage that means identical twins are more married and one flesh than couples,because they are actually more alike in many ways than married couples.
1 Corinthians 6:16 confirms that ‘2 shall become one flesh’ refers to the spiritual implication of sex. 1 Corinthians 6:16 says to have sex with someone is to become one with them (even when the sex is had with a harlot). Clearly, this is a separate matter from the rightness or wrongness of a man marrying more than one wife. It’s really odd how society is quite casual about fornication, but is up in arms regarding a man properly marrying a second wife.
Infidelity/affair is as old as Marriage itself. Unfortunately, it has come to stay. The definition of Infidelity is very very wide but not limited to actual sexual intercourse with another person other than your married partner. The conversations between two married partners are quite DIFFERENT from the one that occurs between two people having an affair..... The fact that those conversations(affair) takes place in secret and cannot have him/her to yourself 100% makes the it more intense. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOVE. Two married couples in LOVE can still cheat. Not because they hate or no longer in love with their partners
@@elizaleke8373 so u will rather support side chicks and patronage of prostitutes but reject the idea of a second wife which was practiced by our forefathers? I have never seen a brothel full of men were women visit for sexual release, the truth that u humans don't want to acknowledge is that many men have a higher sex drive than women. Why are men ready to pay for sex? Sex is like drugs to many men. Do u think the prick that Solomon David and others in the bible had has changed? Let's stop deceiving ourselves, not all men can remain monogamous. Even our Pastors have side chicks. Some women are lucky enough to have a high sex drive like their husbands and are willing to fulfill the man's sexual fantasy whenever he demands, not many women can accommodate these in this modern world of wives also working for money as much as men. As a true Christian I am a firm believer in a man marrying up to two wives but not more, according to the provision stated by God himself in Exodus 21:10 Polygyny is not the best for every one because it can cause rivalry and jealousy but it can be good if done with the direction of God almighty. I will always advocate any good Christian man to take a second wife in situations of Childlessness or sexual incompatibility rather than committing fornication or adultery.
Both religious books have the Adam and Eve story however my issue is with the narrative consistently being portrayed a men’s issue. The question is who and why are the women agreeing to Polygamy. I bet this guy is feeling the heat of Polygamy now being on set with 4 women throwing questions at him 😀
The Devine principles cannot be ignored without consequences. Solomon took 300, and 700 concubines caused him to worshipped graven images, David taken another man 's wife and killing the husband brought upon him many sorrow and grief. David lost four children, and his own son went against him to take the kingdom , and he nearly died. So Jacob, there were much hatred, Joseph was sold by his brothers. Abraham suffered grief when he had to sent hagar away. God gave adam one wife even though the earth was empty.
Polygamy is not a problem, the problem is that many men lack mental capacity and ability to manage two or more wives. One man and a woman is still the best. Allah says marry ONE and then followed by two and so on.... ALLAH also said marry HALF. That means marriage according to your "capacities" including your mental, health and financial. Islam does not impose polygamy. All in all, we should be considerate.
Why do women have kids with more than one man? A lady can leave a man for issues and move to another and move to another, but it's wrong for a man to have multiple wives? Your way of living must not be my way of living!
Don't get it twisted with your analysis. The man can as well drop the woman and move to the next and to the next instead of have them all together and causing both physical and spiritual rivalry. If the 1st one say she's not game for polygamy, the man's ego is bruised and may punish her kids be it she leaves with them or left them behind. Your gender should stop playing victims if you are a male that made that comment.
Because of so many reasons. But most of all; the confusing shapes and packages we have and wanting to help those less privileged ones. Again some are traps set by the ladies for the men especially when he has the prerequisites of a good man/father.
You ladies have been going round in circles for many years when the answer is obvious. The simple issue here is that women ovulate while men don't. I believe you know the end process of ovulation!!! Men are not patient when that circle is on and so go for extras. QED
God made Adam and Eve not Eves. So I don't think anybody is going to be wiser than God who made the human body, he knew one wife was perfect and fully sufficient for Adam. Until man fell, and sin took root monogamy was the order of the day, so polygamy is a product of the fall of man from his God made state. Adultery gives a spouse a right to get a divorce in Christianity, but it does not mean you cannot choose to forgive. The challenge for a spouse who chooses to stay is that you don't know the attitude the other woman is coming in with. Again your husband can't go and do HIV test or other sexually transmitted disease tests anytime he wants to sleep with you or use condom, so you are at more risk. In tradition, a man takes additional wife or wives for these reasons: * If his first wife can not bear kids, or late at baring kids * For more hands to do farm work * If his first wife does not give him peace and his kinsmen know this fact * If the man never wanted to marry that first wife, but it was forced on him by parents or circumstance. * To help take care of widows who have lost their husbands in battles * where there is excess women vs men Tradition always had good and just intentions for polygamy not selfish ones. That is why Pete Edochie although a man of tradition was against his son's action, because it did not consider a loyal and faithful wife. That polygamy was based on selfish desire only
This man has not been able to make any point. Guests should be informed before hand of topics today be discussed so that he would've prepare ahead of time
a man will have money and all women will flock to him, but a woman will have money all men will run away, because men want to be men, and women want to be men. God has 3 letters on it, Man has 3 letters on it, Women has 5 letters the Devil has 5 letters . the devil wants to be God, the woman wants to be man. so no matter how you divide 5 it will never give you 3. stop trying to be God and Man 🤣
Woman must not cheat bcos they are band to their husband but husband's are very free to do that with diggity and commitment to it but it's a big taboos for wife's to open their legs to another one without proper devoice the nature will be on her.
Hello Ladies, just want to say, I really enjoy your show and missing Mariam.
Now just 4 points about polygamy
1. Culture /Tradition : Polygamy was established in all cultures--European, Arab, African, as a way of life before Christianity and Education. Culturally polygamy served 3 purposes 1. They and their children were a labour-force for agriculture etc 2. A symbol of wealth 3. In the event of sickness / disease, death, there are children, esp the male heir, to carry on the family name 4. Lust/Love as the case may be. Now please remember that Christianity is NOT an oyinbo thing, but from the Middle East, which was brought to Europe by the first Jewish Christians. In full acceptance of Christianity, European culture and polygamy then formally ended in Europe .Please remember Paul's journey to Cyprus and Malta. Joseph of Arimethea is credited to be first missionary in England. Also culture just means traditions, peoples way of doing things. So not sure why African Christians hide under banner of culture to propagate polygamy.
2. Religion : The origin of Christianity in Europe has been discussed. Prior to that time, in Genesis, it was monogamy--Adam and Eve. Polygamy seems to be a very permissive, man-made thing. For Muslims, going back to the time of Abraham who is a father, in Islam, he had only one wife. Hagar was a slave girl give to him by Sarah and see the problems caused till today. As far as I know, Islam permits up to 4 wives if a man is able to love and care for them equally, which I don't think is ever possible.. So again in Islam, it would appear polygamy is not the standard, but is permissive.
3. Education : Hopefully, the more educated men are, the more monogamous they should be. Men determine the sex of their children by their X or Y chromosome. A man should employ his mind to gainful activities- e.g social development, doesn't even have to be a politician, sports etc to discipline his mind and body , so he can focus on one wife and family. I think this is the category most nollywood celebrities with two/ three baby mamas or wives have sadly fallen out of. Their platform could have been better used for socio-economic development rather than polygamy and baby mama news.
4. Economy: The Nigerian economy is in seriously bad shape and this has encouraged a resurgence of polygamy, where young girls enter polygamy primarily to get a "better life".
Hope this helps and just to say, not judging, but contributing facts.
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Giving you a standing ovation. Wow wisdom right here 👏👏
My God! You are intelligent, totally impressed.
Why is it that we don’t want to accept that polygamy has caused Nigeria to be a nation without consciousness. I have not heard from a single person that they enjoyed living in a polygamous home. A lot of men will say to you that you know the man you married when it comes down to it, but honestly we don’t. We are denying the effects and trauma that come with polygamy. I know many young women that have just decided not to marry altogether due to trauma of seeing their mother’s always grieving. I will tell any women that if it is not working pull your life together and move on. We cannot continue to let men tie up the destiny’s of their wives and children.
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Wow! 😱Once he said, "I don't believe in divorce. Even when she's treated wrongly", I checked out. Like one of the ladies said, "I'm glad he's not my brother".
Is the other man you are running to going to be better? when you get married, you will understand. If women run out ,no one would be married .
@@thehunted316 who said I'm running to another? 🙄 There are good men out there and I'm happy to wait till I find the right one before entering another. Well done 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 and thank you for confirming by your comment that women don't deserve good men and should be content with accepting nonsense, just as long as he can call himself a man.
Here's a novel idea for you. Why not aim to help society by being a better man. #thenarrativehastochange
@@thehunted316 what makes you thinking a woman leaving a marriage must go to another man. What if she choose to face her business/career, kids and her spiritually as apostle Paul said?
@@elizaleke8373 right! Besides there are better men out there 😂😂. Women value yourselves ❤️
Morayo looking VERY beautiful today, wow 😍
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In this issue of polygamy I think women just need to know they do have a choice to be in polygamous marriage or not, if you are happy in it fine, and women needs to make it clear before marriage whether or not they want to be in one or not if polygamy is a thing in yr society
For me, is lack of self control for men
and greed.
self control? if y`all had self control, you would all be virgins before marriage. Hypocrisy is when the most promiscuous women in the world want faithfulness after fucking different men in their youth.
Right, they want to poke everything.
@@amehka5416 like dogs 🐶 🐶 🐩
Polygamy is an anachronism, meaning, it does not belong in our time.
Be deceiving yourself
What will you say to those women who are marrying a married man. Don't focus on just man alone.if there's no market for stolen goods, no one will thief.
You need to ensure that you have informed and vocal guests. This man has not said anything. You all were speaking for him.
He said from the start that he cannot handle mere than one woman. Evidently, they feasted on him.
@@benedictiribhogbe5686 if he was vocal and said the mind of men, they would have attacked him. he is smart. go to Twitter and see men`s opinion about these things. Men believe that if they have to have money before being accepted then they should the freedom to choose as many side chicks as they want IF they are rich. Everyone is happy!
He speaks his mind, I don't understand what you expect him to say. I tried to be extra careful because the issue is about men, very sensitive. For me, he speaks very well.
i need an old single lady looking for a husband to join this conversation
I'm sorry, why is no one talking about the new testament when it comes to polygamy being supported by the bible? Jesus made reference to it in Matthew 19:4-5. He said and the two shall become one flesh not 3 not 4. Please let's get our facts right. Matthew 19:9 even explains further that putting your wife away and marrying another is adultery. Please let's not stutter when we want to say that Christianity is against polygamy.
That verse is not talking about polygamy, its a misinterpretion of scripture.
@@suntangloryIt's talking about marriage. Simply saying that marriage is between one man and one woman. What is the misinterpretation of scripture there?
@@jemimaokonkwo8288 He said the two shall become one flesh not one. The verse is simply teaching you to use your head basically. Be joined to your mind, which is the spirit man within and let both become one flesh. It is practically impossible for two human beings to be one flesh. Even if you think like someone else, think alike, you are more one in spirit than in flesh. If a man and a woman are one flesh due to marriage that means identical twins are more married and one flesh than couples,because they are actually more alike in many ways than married couples.
Read your Bible. Check out the book of 1 corinthians. Read through it and be careful when you give opinion on religious matters.
1 Corinthians 6:16 confirms that ‘2 shall become one flesh’ refers to the spiritual implication of sex. 1 Corinthians 6:16 says to have sex with someone is to become one with them (even when the sex is had with a harlot). Clearly, this is a separate matter from the rightness or wrongness of a man marrying more than one wife. It’s really odd how society is quite casual about fornication, but is up in arms regarding a man properly marrying a second wife.
Pastor Kingsley should have been included in dis conversation
Argument is all over the place. Moderator should better guide the conversation.
Infidelity/affair is as old as Marriage itself. Unfortunately, it has come to stay. The definition of Infidelity is very very wide but not limited to actual sexual intercourse with another person other than your married partner.
The conversations between two married partners are quite DIFFERENT from the one that occurs between two people having an affair..... The fact that those conversations(affair) takes place in secret and cannot have him/her to yourself 100% makes the it more intense.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LOVE.
Two married couples in LOVE can still cheat. Not because they hate or no longer in love with their partners
Even Oyinbo men get side chicks everywhere....All the Ashewo house in Europe are patronised mostly by married men.
Its side chic not 2nd wife and the wife better not know else he is done
H.F, the side chick get more than one boo. Humans are polygamous in nature.
@@elizaleke8373 so u will rather support side chicks and patronage of prostitutes but reject the idea of a second wife which was practiced by our forefathers?
I have never seen a brothel full of men were women visit for sexual release, the truth that u humans don't want to acknowledge is that many men have a higher sex drive than women.
Why are men ready to pay for sex? Sex is like drugs to many men. Do u think the prick that Solomon David and others in the bible had has changed?
Let's stop deceiving ourselves, not all men can remain monogamous. Even our Pastors have side chicks.
Some women are lucky enough to have a high sex drive like their husbands and are willing to fulfill the man's sexual fantasy whenever he demands, not many women can accommodate these in this modern world of wives also working for money as much as men.
As a true Christian I am a firm believer in a man marrying up to two wives but not more, according to the provision stated by God himself in Exodus 21:10 Polygyny is not the best for every one because it can cause rivalry and jealousy but it can be good if done with the direction of God almighty.
I will always advocate any good Christian man to take a second wife in situations of Childlessness or sexual incompatibility rather than committing fornication or adultery.
Both religious books have the Adam and Eve story however my issue is with the narrative consistently being portrayed a men’s issue. The question is who and why are the women agreeing to Polygamy. I bet this guy is feeling the heat of Polygamy now being on set with 4 women throwing questions at him 😀
The Devine principles cannot be ignored without consequences. Solomon took 300, and 700 concubines caused him to worshipped graven images, David taken another man 's wife and killing the husband brought upon him many sorrow and grief. David lost four children, and his own son went against him to take the kingdom , and he nearly died. So Jacob, there were much hatred, Joseph was sold by his brothers. Abraham suffered grief when he had to sent hagar away. God gave adam one wife even though the earth was empty.
Some men get married to another woman because of her characters
Some because they want to
Many reasons anyway 💯💯👋👋
There are less SUCCESSFUL men that is why we are not against POLYGAMY.
LUST is another reason for POLYGAMY.
It was even in the Bible, Abraham was a father of faith but he was never faithful to his wife and that where the problems of men come from
Polygamy is not a problem, the problem is that many men lack mental capacity and ability to manage two or more wives. One man and a woman is still the best. Allah says marry ONE and then followed by two and so on.... ALLAH also said marry HALF. That means marriage according to your "capacities" including your mental, health and financial. Islam does not impose polygamy. All in all, we should be considerate.
Please if you can’t quote Allah (SWA) correctly is better you don’t sis
But it is in their nature. Let’s stop being unrealistic.
It’s in everyone’s nature, it’s just about self control
Most men cannot afford
There is no validation for wrong doing...., I don't know where he got that philosophy satin men are polygerms by nature.
It’s an excuse they make for lack of self control
Why do women have kids with more than one man? A lady can leave a man for issues and move to another and move to another, but it's wrong for a man to have multiple wives? Your way of living must not be my way of living!
Don't get it twisted with your analysis. The man can as well drop the woman and move to the next and to the next instead of have them all together and causing both physical and spiritual rivalry. If the 1st one say she's not game for polygamy, the man's ego is bruised and may punish her kids be it she leaves with them or left them behind. Your gender should stop playing victims if you are a male that made that comment.
People hate polygamy but will say it’s ok for gays and lesbians to marry… If the women agree then it’s ok
Because of so many reasons. But most of all; the confusing shapes and packages we have and wanting to help those less privileged ones. Again some are traps set by the ladies for the men especially when he has the prerequisites of a good man/father.
You ladies have been going round in circles for many years when the answer is obvious. The simple issue here is that women ovulate while men don't. I believe you know the end process of ovulation!!! Men are not patient when that circle is on and so go for extras. QED
That’s the problem, a man that can’t be patient is sick 🤒
It is not scriptural in New Testament
Fuji house Gbenro
Sincerely your guest is not prepaired for this topic or his not the type that can speak on such topic
God made Adam and Eve not Eves. So I don't think anybody is going to be wiser than God who made the human body, he knew one wife was perfect and fully sufficient for Adam. Until man fell, and sin took root monogamy was the order of the day, so polygamy is a product of the fall of man from his God made state.
Adultery gives a spouse a right to get a divorce in Christianity, but it does not mean you cannot choose to forgive. The challenge for a spouse who chooses to stay is that you don't know the attitude the other woman is coming in with. Again your husband can't go and do HIV test or other sexually transmitted disease tests anytime he wants to sleep with you or use condom, so you are at more risk.
In tradition, a man takes additional wife or wives for these reasons:
* If his first wife can not bear kids, or late at baring kids
* For more hands to do farm work
* If his first wife does not give him peace and his kinsmen know this fact
* If the man never wanted to marry that first wife, but it was forced on him by parents or circumstance.
* To help take care of widows who have lost their husbands in battles
* where there is excess women vs men
Tradition always had good and just intentions for polygamy not selfish ones. That is why Pete Edochie although a man of tradition was against his son's action, because it did not consider a loyal and faithful wife. That polygamy was based on selfish desire only
Oga don't come here to play Saint! All men can handle more than one wife, but not my way to get more than one wife..simple
This man has not been able to make any point. Guests should be informed before hand of topics today be discussed so that he would've prepare ahead of time
a man will have money and all women will flock to him, but a woman will have money all men will run away, because men want to be men, and women want to be men. God has 3 letters on it, Man has 3 letters on it, Women has 5 letters the Devil has 5 letters . the devil wants to be God, the woman wants to be man. so no matter how you divide 5 it will never give you 3. stop trying to be God and Man 🤣
The male guest is either being shallow or wants to sound 'correct'
Woman must not cheat bcos they are band to their husband but husband's are very free to do that with diggity and commitment to it but it's a big taboos for wife's to open their legs to another one without proper devoice the nature will be on her.
🤣🤣🤣 ignorance is a disease sha
Oga,rest. You sound very unintelligent.
This male guest ought to have dominated the discussion..he now appears to be controlled by these Nigerian-British women.
They are more than him so definitely they will talk more than him. When I saw the panels I just said they will corner this man with too much talking
Did he not just admit that he cannot handle more than one woman? Evidently they handled with him.
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@@abigailxatse its not all men they can dominate. They also know that themselves. Thats why they invite men they know they will overtalk.
@@SCRIPTURESFORTODAY 😅😅