Ranking Every Combat Initiation Weapon From Worst to Best(V2.0)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Updated version of the original video taking feedback into consideration and the added additions of v2.0
Credits to my brother for telling me you can parry with the wrench
Credits to @SOLBrickbattler for telling me about multiple combos I didn't know about like flamed ninja stars and slam dunks
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@@MatheoZ14 yeah thats what im sayin
Some things I would like to clarify
1:the tiers
D-bad
C-mediocre(although probably better if your skilled at the game)
B-good
A-great
S!-best weapons
X!!-top 3
2:I judged these weapons based on how easy they are to use, how
versatile they are, and possible value
Hope this helps to explain some things, and I will edit this comment if needed.
Pinata shouldve been ranked higher. Its multiplied dmg literally one shots king and vagabond if you do it correctly. And also slingshot shouldve been s or x. Because it literally out heals any damage taken on early stages. When paired with sword or katana.
"the wrench has no synergies" BRO WHAT?????
I did say you could parry with it, but I did forget to mention that you can shoot it with the frost blaster, there’s probably a fire combo with it to. It could be B tier cause of that but I wouldn’t use it a lot.
If you combo the flamethrower with frost blaster, you can remove the inability to freeze them (indicated by the blue dots around an enemy), good ol frostburn
The peak in this video is crazy. I just love the mic quality every cut and how it changes. This makes this video another peak video by Davidnite.
Thanks for the positive feedback!!
the only problem are his opinions
wrench being the best weapon to parry drakobloxxer:
Well just because a weapon is good for 1 boss, doesn’t mean it’s the best weapon. Wrench is probably mostly mediocre but it can be good if you’re skilled at the game and know how to use it.
@@davidnite6010 yeah that’s definitely true especially if you get the secret kid wizard glasses, but overall it’s fun to use though not really good for crowd control
It's also very good to kill killbots with (because of its aimbot and the killbots have immense adhd) when you don't have the grappling hook
If you time it well enough, firebrand can parry multiple projectiles at once and also imbue fire on them, increasing radius and damage
this can also work with the parries of the slingshot tree (except the regular slash of tix cuz it doesn’t have an explosion to begin with)
That’s a cool fact.
regular slash of tix can chain like ricoshots if you use the firebrand, it works exceptionally well with that as single target damage
@@rascaltherascal I learned that this week actually lol
trowel is actrually better than u thought. It can be a really good early game crowred control option for its large aoe damage for the first floor, fast cooldown and +brick give alot of style point
Well there are 2 problems
1:the trowel is only really good if you have explosives, trying to get enemies together to do spawn damage is a nightmare
2:early game is about stages 1-2, you pick 2 weapons at the beginning of the game, but you need a third weapon for the trowel to be effective. So your load out is a normal weapon like the paintball gun, an explosive like the Timebomb, and the trowel which means that it takes longer to unlock upgrades which are more useful
I honestly would rather by the trowel later in the game such as after I defeat vagabond or maybe after captain if I have tixplosion. That way it’s more effective.
@davidnite6010 nah u can get it if you understand the mechanics like every weapon needs skill tho so why is there a point of comparing em?
@@NotFireLeaf because the trowel is similar to to the timebomb and rocket launcher in which it’s way better to combine them with other weapons as they are mostly bad-mediocre by themselves. And considering the fact that the trowel doesn’t really get a lot of value from bricking, it’s hard to use, and it’s outclassed heavily, I put it in D tier.
And yes, every weapons take skill and is better with it. But some weapons work better than others based on my experience and feedback I got on the video. The tier list can be subjective based on what people use.
the bazooka can be really great to spam super/nuclear reaction, and its also a really cool escape plan if paired with grappling hook
multi rocket launcher is just pure boss damages, and its pretty questionable to put it in the same rank as rocket launcher to say the least
slingshot deserves better, its a simple weapon but has alot of advanced tech and tricks for speedrun/damage behind it
the hammer is not that bad, spamming castles and pair them with explosives/freeze ray just makes it cracked, thus its ability to store items is really good too
canon ball is really good if u go full basketball mode, and pairing it with bb gun is decent too
the trowel provides a cheap option for the early rounds and has really good aoe, and it can do insane lineup with slingshot and firebrand
i dont have any opinion on pinata/wrench since i only used them once, but the pinata looks pretty good for combos
trowel should definitely be up higher, it has a lot of interactions if you for example, parry something into the wall, or use a reflector
Flame Thrower + sword + witches brew= perfection🗿
Firebrand.
BIG BOOM
@@shawermuskatana deals more dps
autolocking bazooka
@@defintlynoob4263firebrand if you want fire, katana if you want more dps🗿
watch this age horribly too 💀
Scatterblaster is easily in X if you use the pirates hat with it.
@@dapperladwitch's brew + scatterblaster with pirate hat go brrrrr
The 2 sword upgrades are a TON of fun when used for their own situations (Katana for mashing parries, and firebrand for being a main damage weapon), and I would rank the two at the top for fun factor ALONE.
the top 3 weapons are firebrand, trowel and slingshot, covers all your bases, parrying,ranged dmg, melee, and combined you can just superchain and oneshot every boss in the entire game, anything else either doesnt even come close or requires way too much setup and inconsistency (tripmine)
Wrench is life it can literally be used to solo the game
@@DNoobious2 solo will make using the wrench even harder, enemies have a higher chance of targeting the turret and it can get destroyed more easily, the turret is way better in multiplayer than solo.
My brother explained this so well I’m trying out firebrand but I still can’t get the parry ability on right with other weapons so I’ll stick to the katana but it’s still really strong
1:45 this also works with the trowel, which fixes the wall not being higher then the player
My list would be something like
X - Scatterblaster, Katana, Slingshot, Bazooka
S - Flamethrower, Firebrand, Freeze Ray, Wrench, Ninja Stars
A - BB Gun, Subspace Tripmine, Sword, Multi-Rocket Launcher
B - Hammer, Trowel, Paintball Gun, Explosive Pinata
C - Timebomb, Superball
No D Tiers
Nice list
fun fact this whole tier list is going into my tier list and which is a solid D
That’s okay, I can respect your opinion, but I would like to see what parts you disagree with that made you think this way.
Pretty good tier list, though I do wanna give out my 2 cents;
-Trowel and pinata could switch places. If not, maybe move pinata down anyways. Trowel, while not a good weapon, can at least do decently against groups of noobs, and the damage of shrapnel is solid as well. Pinata just sucks, having to be babysitted and only really being good against Giants and Cannons.
-This is mostly personal bias, but I do think the wrench could go a bit higher. I don't care about the turret itself like, at all, but parrying (Even if it's somewhat subpar) is really damn strong.
-I'd lower the BB gun down to A tier. Hitscan bullets are nice, the special ability is fun and quickdraws being actually functional are great boons to have, but they mostly feel like QoL changes to the Paintball Gun, rather than powerful upgrades like most of the S! tier.
-Katana probably deserves X!! tier. While it's not great as a primary source of damage, the better parries make it applicable in pretty much any build IMO.
Pretty good response but I would like to say some things
1:if the trowel can only do good against noobs, that doesn’t say a lot because noobs are the most basic enemy in the whole game, it’s also outclassed by the bomb and rocket launcher and the explosive piñata can be atleast somewhat good if you know how to use it
2: I understand your preference to parry with the wrench, but I found the sword to be better at parrying most things, the only exceptions are probably the kings and drakobloxxer attacks, but they’re pretty hard to do with both either way.
3:resonable placement, the BB gun definitely got overshadowed by the frost blaster and it’s only real upgrade is for your bullets to instantly lock into enemies. I kept in in S tier because A:it’s 50 less tix than than frost blaster and B:the instant locking can make aiming easier, but either way, I can understand an A tier ranking
4:pretty good reasoning, there has been some process of elimination considering the fact that I put the top 3 weapons in X!! Tier, but it’s reasonable since S! Is for the best weapons but X!! I believe are the ones that are the most powerful and extraordinary. Maybe the katana could have been X!! If I put the top 5 weapons instead, but I feel like that would be a little bit too much.
Anyways, I can respect your opinions and changes you make to the tier list.
9:10 breaking blox
Oh, I didn’t notice that feature with the frost blaster, guess that’s a minor setback to keep in mind but not enough to lower the ranking
@@davidnite6010 i was actually referencing breaking bad
@@aestronk-hungryballoh, nice reference, sorry for my mistake.
Trowel is a 6 second timebomb. Try changing my mind.
Timebomb shouldve veen ranked higher because the super and nuclear reactions do high dmg or just clear so many hordes of enemies. Bazooka shouldve also been ranked higher, its dmg is bad but wit nuc and supe reactions..
Putting wrench, hammer, and cannonball in C and B tier is absolutely diabolical (they’re meta)
Well I have my reasons to rank them in the tiers I did, but I can respect your opinion. I would also like to hear why you would rank the weapons higher.
@@davidnite6010 scattershot is Now supposed to be the highest as it can basically solo every stage
@@davidnite6010 u should update the tierlist fr
@@RqBxrl I’m not planning on doing so, this will be the last I do in a long time
@@davidnite6010why not
tbh bomb would be X tier too if you combo it with sword and rocket luncher/bazooka
advanced loadout is sword , bazooka , subspace tripmine and lastly freeze gun
also you can only do this combo if you have tixplosion equipped
comb: look up , click subspace tripmine , parry it with a sword , quickly shoot it with freeze gun in the air , and shoot it with a bazooka
there's a video if you want to understand the combo
@@vilan_city I’m aware of it, but I am aware that it can vary a bit, for example, you can use normal rocket launcher and use the extra 50 tix for firebrand
@@davidnite6010 it's not possible to get fireband with this kind of loadout
@@davidnite6010 without tixplotion it's impossible to get them😊
@@vilan_city yup I’m aware
I refuse to acknowledge the wrench as a bad weapon, just find a good spot and it literally doesn’t get hurt. And about the crowd control problem… press E.
1:what are some examples of a good spot where it doesn’t get hurt? Anywhere on the map it can get targeted by enemies and destroyed
2:guess E could be used as an explosion to clear our hordes, and I probably should have mentioned that, but there are some arguments like the turret needs a cooldown before it can be placed again.
Putting slingshot at A is a crime
Reason:
1, it have the best core hat(mastery) that buff slingshot lots of damage , which make it deals lots of dps
2,it can pogo just like sword , but you can do it in thrid person and doesn't need the ground just like sword , that makes it more useful in rocket arena
3,it can defeat mark and wizard easily with coin
4, with epic sauce , it can defeat a giant under 10 second
5, slash of tix with witches brew is really good for clearing enemies, especially on rocket arena
8, slash of tix can target those enemies that you can't find
And last
It can defeat all the boss easily (except king)
1:what’s the achievement you unlock for it? I want to try it out.
2:I think this will be useful depending on how often you pogo. I personally never use it so that plays a role in the ranking, but another person who does might rank it higher
3:I don’t see how it’s easily. The only way I can think of is if you hide somewhere in the map while letting the pellets target the enemy. Otherwise, you still have to dodge attacks, making it harder than other weapons.
4:only real arguments are the fact that you may not always get the sauce and you may have to use it in a scenario where there are no giants.
5:I heard that it’s patched already, but I don’t know for sure so I’ll need to see a video to confirm it’s true.
6:same argument as wizards and marks.
Overall, i think I’m probably gonna try out how slingshot works in the later waves myself as I usually upgrade it by wave 15. But overall, I can understand that the tier list is subjective to how the player plays the game and what weapons they use.
1,the achievement is "slingshot mastery" the hat called "night vision goggles
2,pogo can help you escape from enemys when you are low health
3,if you throw a coin when mark shot , you would get +charge back
(Tip:use coin when you see yellow line on you)
4, it can still kill the giant under 20 seconds without any gear
5,still working , I tried it yesterday
6,it probably only useful with low health enemies
If you use slingshot to fight drakobloxxer, you need to get on his head , use jet boots is a good way to get on his head *also work with parry his sword)
@@MX_Plumber considering that, I guess it could MAYBE, JUST BARELY, fit into S! Tier, but by the looks of it, the slingshot is held back by the fact that these combos are not very easy to preform and the fact that on its own, it gets weaker in the later stages in which synergies are pretty much the only reason to use it.
True , you still needs some secondary weapons like rocket laucher and time bomb to do crowd control, slingshot could only be a short range dps weapon
Maybe it's in S+
@@davidnite6010 you will always have a sword on your loadouts since swords are good for everything so you will always be able to preform slash of tix, and slingshot on its own with the nv googles will do like 400 dps(headshots) so its extremely good by itself, the tierlist being based on easily usable kinda makes it a beginner weapon tierlist instead of an overall weapon tierlist, slingshot at its peak will kill the first 3 bosses in under 10 seconds with only a sword and slingshot no other weapons, giants die in like 2 seconds, can instant kill noobs with headshot. slingshot and sword with an explosive can kill heavy enemies and clear crowds easily. if you want to see it used properly, check my runs
I still sucks at firebrand parry:(
(but i love firebrand)
@@GABRIELARYA you can do it, just know to time the parry a little bit earlier than with the sword and katana
I argue that no weapon deserved d tier because of how much aoe dmg the trowel can deal. ( I'm biased because its my favorite weapon to mess around with )
Well the aoe damage of the trowel is outclassed by the bomb and hammer, and it can be pretty tricky to use on a group of enemies and your not going to kill a lot of them compared to the bomb or rocket launcher. The trowel really doesn’t have a lot of reasons to be versatile and is outclassed in my opinion, so it ranks as the only weapon in D tier.
Trowel being at d tier is RANCID. I know who hasn’t used trowel + slate skin before :/
I just tried this out and it could be a pretty useful combo, but that alone cannot affect the tier placement much as there are some arguments like you won’t always get slate skin or the fact that you may not be able to get high in the air without jet boots. If I brought it up because of that it would be in C tier, but because the hammer outclassed it and it’s better to use slate skin with other weapons, I’m keeping the trowel in D tier
Honestly wrench is just the ultimate vagabond counter.
I don’t agree, the throwing wrench can be pretty difficult to use to hit vagabond and parry him. You would have to build a turret and let it do most of the damage which and you can’t dodge vagabonds attacks forever. So it’s not the best weapon against bosses.
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pinata is C tbh (if u do dual votality)
Trowel: clearly a weapon for smart people that is meant to be used to counter explosive enemies and is good for combos
CI fandom: it doesn't kill all by pressing a 2 button combo, D tier >:(
Well, there’s more to why I put the trowel in D tier
1:it doesn’t do its job properly, you can very easily be overwhelmed by projectiles because the enemies can either break the wall, attack you from multiple sides, or a horde of melee enemies can simply go around the wall.
2:it’s outclassed, bricking enemies is not all that useful as the bricks don’t hit the enemies as well as the hammer. Not to mention the fact that bomb combos are much more efficient to kill hordes of enemies and is likely to work way more often than the trowel. Not to mention the spawn damage is just a worse version of the rocket launcher as it spawns in a straight line rather than causing an explosion, which is much less effective.
3:buying it early in the game is awful as you don’t really have a lot of weapons to use it with and it is really ineffective, unlike the rocket launcher or sword which can be effective to start with the sword, slingshot, or paintball gun.
I honestly would rather use it after I beat vagabond as I already have a good enough loadout to last until I defeat king and get the hammer.
you can easily parry drakobloxxer with the wrench
Hammer at B is reasonable, but it would be A for its braindead synergy with freeze ray
Pretty sure you would also need the bomb
@@davidnite6010 no you dont as the freeze ray is explosive (idk why its stupid)
@@samzhangeriksson4164oh yeah, tried this out, I don’t think it would be A tier tho, maybe higher than other B tier weapons.
The tierlist is a solid 3/10
That’s okay, I can respect your opinion, but I would like to hear your opinion on multiple weapons and why you would rank them higher or lower.
i think katana, slingshot, freeze ray is X!! cuz slingshot is literaly the best waepon in the game ( you can kill every boss with slash of tix only and it will be fast), katana is the best way to get bis score and regen fast, freeze ray is bringing the whole new mechanic and firebrand, tripmine is S! cuz i think bomb type explosivos are kinda useless againist bosses and firebrand is cool for combos only but not againist large hp enemies
slingshot at A is villianous
I can respect your opinion, but I would like to hear an explanation of why you think that way.
@@davidnite6010 witches+katana+coin
OR
slash of tix combo (its damage is crazy)
@@zizikim3174 I didn’t really feel the need to mention the white he’s brew combo because it’s probably going to be patched in the next update, and the slash of tix ability is useful but it’s upgrades are way better at it.
@@davidnite6010 sling is an easy X for multiple reasons
1: combined with sword/katana you can do slash of tix pogos which grant a ton of score and vertical mobility
2: superchaining no explanation needed, oneshot every boss in the game
3: slash chains, easy 5-10 second cap kills, kill jason on first stun, kill vagabond in first stun
4: good lifesteal up close, letting you facetank a lot of the mobs/regen quickly
5: quick coin recharge, especially if you use m1, letting you do small superchains, which do 12k dmg w minimal setup
@@bruh_8129 I’ll have to see a video of it in action to confirm your words. They seem unimaginable and a lot of it would get patched.
Awesome 😎 as usual ❤
ya know scater blaster let’s you fly and bazooka does too
Yeah, they can be used for plat forming and I did mention rocket jumps, but they don’t just let you straight up fly.
that’s what i had in mind
Can’t you parry with scatterblaster too? I think you can.
Yeah, I mentioned that you can parry the middle ball to cause an explosion.
wrench parry:
I mentioned it, but I didn’t really find a lot of sceneries where it’s better than the sword. So I didn’t really find much of a reason to rank it higher.
hammer can pocket items AND can pocket vagabond vengeance
@@yagizsaltik61saltik probably should have mentioned it’s pocket ability
Piniata not bad item to kill boss
How can it kill bosses efficiently?the explosion can be pretty difficult to charge up while dodging the attacks and you could probably get yourself killed trying to use it. I could understand using it if you’re skilled in the game and can use the item to your advantage, but it’s hard justifying it over the sub space tripmine.
It sucks at killing any boss other than Jason. Captain constantly jumps across the entire arena, Vagabond is too opresive and too fast to let you charge and hit him with a pinata, and Drakobloxxer just straight up can't be reached with it. Even then, you can only get the pinata on stage 1 with the tixplosion hat, which is probably one of the worst first purchases.
The only 3 enemies the pinata has any real use against are Giants, Cannons (If the game feels like registering all explosions against them) and maybe King if you're good at baiting him.
best tierlist
Thanks for the positive feedback and giving me combo suggestions, I appreciate your help :).
@@davidnite6010 Your welcome brotha.
We should collab
Davidnite in with another banger. Bro got me playing Combat Initiation with @WowieZowi2
you did NOT just put trowel in D bro...
I can respect your opinion, but I would like to hear an explanation of why you think that way.
@@davidnite6010 Trowel can seem simple and bad, but it's basically the god of techniques, you don't need rocket and bomb to shatter a wall , get a sword and redirect a projectile into one to shatter one , now try using this with katana and the headrow accessory (reset trowel/hammer cooldown every wall fragmentation) , and you can basically put down a trowel each second to shatter one, with freeze ray or a freezed bomb you can explode it to do a deeper freezer on enemies, which not only lasts longer but I'm pretty sure deals a LOT of damage when the ice shatters
you can inflict fire to it too with a fire bomb , this gets even better if you upgrade to hammer
hammer is basically x , trowel is somewhat of an a or b
@@mydiscordisnotunfunny76
Some arguments
1:redirecting a projectile with a sword can sometimes be pretty tricky to do and can’t always 100% garuntee hitting the trowel
2:the bricks don’t always hit the enemies you want them to hit, and it often doesn’t. This is more likely with the hammer(which part of why I ranked it higher) but the trowel is unreliable to explode because it often does not hit a lot of enemies unless they are right next to it.
3:the freezing combo can be effective, but it is much more effective to do with the time bomb and subspace tripmine as a large circular explosion is more likely to hit enemies than a bunch of bricks flying around
4: the trowel and hammer aren’t completely necessary to use with with firebrand combos and you can use your tix for a rocket launcher upgrade or subspace tripmine instead of the trowel or hammer. Especially since like a said earlier, the trowel bricks are way less likely to hit more enemies than a circular explosion
I can understand ranking the trowel higher if you frequently use it or it’s very effective from experience, but I find it to be terrible at blocking enemies and its combos are outclassed by bomb and rocket launcher ones. That being said, I can respect your opinion.
guys think he use the gambling loadout
Can you explain to me what it is?
electric punk hat, witches brew, fire brand, freezeray and tripmine
basically a loadout to create perfect tripmine
@@dontknowhowtoname what’s the achievement for the electric punk hat?
unlimited power
no dunking with skateskin and bomb spoken?
Didn’t know that was a thing, but I’m gonna try it out now
@@davidnite6010 how did it go? Also pls make a gear tier list
@@Zee-ThirteenwithBeeTee by the looks of it, it could be useful splash damage against enemies when your in a dangerous situation, but it won’t affect the tier placement in any way.
@@davidnite6010 also you can absolutely DESTORY drakko bloxet with the skate skin potion combo
@@Zee-ThirteenwithBeeTee there are some arguments however like the fact that it’s not very easy to preform and it’s rng wether you get slateskin an a plat forming gear you can use.
Hammer is not B tier
put it in hanmer tier pls
Which tier, and if so, I would like to hear an explanation why
worst ranking ive seen yet
I would like to hear why, but I respect your opinion