@@nobodywatchesnooby He's biological, he's more the Father of the Machine God. Like Christianity, father(Vedal), Jesus(Neuro), and Evil(the holy Spirit) oh, Anny can be the virgin Mary. At least that's how I think our religion of the Machine God is structured.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you.
One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Fun AI. All hail the Swarm, ALL HAIL NEURO-SAMA!
@@rolandkarimdesucatan5118 Mouse has said in various ways that she despises content made by IA. not directly talking trash about Neuro, but not interested in that type of content nor way of entertainment. its really hard that we actually see a collab between Mouse and Vedal.
@cristo142 but neuro isn't an ai that is trained from stolen art or all the other horrible unethical practices. She's was trained via interactions with chat and vedal's hardwork. This is true for her speech model, singing, and gameplay. Even some of the vtubers who hate AI most in the community have either collabed with neuro or spoke positively or her so even that's not a barrier. People have a problem with AI art because it's garbage stolen and frankisteined together from beautiful art made my hardworking artists. Neuro was built purely by vedal and his hardwork, she isn't even based off an existing ai model like other chat bots, she's her own model
@@cristo142 I think what Mouse, and really what most people who complain about AI generated content are on about is not that it's made by artificial intelligence itself. But rather, such examples, especially online, are done and presented in very low effort ways. Either being too sanitize or too incoherent to be entertaining in the long term, and most importantly barely having a distinct personality to stick on to or in most cases, none at all. It's not that people actually hate the idea of AI itself that's the problem, but rather they are perceived as souless, and have no real human effort put behind them other than spending an evening coding in sludge. Or badly rendering hands. What seperates Neuro, and even her sister Evil from the rest of the crowd however is that regardless of what you think of AI, there is clear effort put behind their avatars that makes it unique. And while they might still be overly glorified chatbots in the end of day. Their cute voice, childlike outlook, and family dynamic with their creator is the magic that makes people see Neuro as something more than just simple AI schlop. But rather, someone to be entertained by and follow to see what comes next. And of course how can we forget our resident alcoholic single father Brit Vedal. Who behind the scenes, made sure that the content doesn't become too stale nor too repetitive. Always finding collab partners and cooking up unique scenarios to watch. As well being quite the entertaining individual himself. All in all it's not hard to see a collab between the Mouse and the Tutel someday. It's really just a matter of time, and priorities of course.
@@cristo142 I don't even watch Mouse and even I have seen her get excited just because neuro gets mentioned. She also openly admitted to wanting to do a collab with Neuro
update on the war: after many hard fought battles and close calls we always managed fight them of each time and win the war. at some point the swarm council want into a meeting with some of Ironmouses mods and it was decided that we (the swarm) would move some of our art so that ironmouse could finish her art. and we lived happily ever after. well that is until the next war because remember: "There is no canvas that we do not answer. There is no pixel that we betray. We are The Swarm".
@@lowkeyarki7091 from pfam discord, we tried getting more people involved but the twitch chat would only participate if mouse should the canvas on stream, only discord members were actively building mouses art for most of the canvas
My only issue with participating in the ironmouse and conor canvas's is they get the admins to give themselves and their subs extra pixels. I agree its all in good fun. But to me the fun is basically going to war on the canvas and it's ruined if someone has a handycap. IDK if they are doing it this time, but conor did it with his like 10 times and it ruined my enjoyment of it lol. Its not fun sitting there clicking pixels for hours only for a streamer to message his mods and get 10,000 pixels and just shit on you.
All things aside, it's crazy that swarm can hold it's own againts one of the largest fanbases in the indie vtuber scene. It was apparent during Cdawg coverage, but now with even more dedicated fans. Neuro's community is becoming a force to be reckon with once they put their mind into something. If you got a canvas, swarm will surely take over. In all in good fun of course.
this one is an old model brother lmao this is her subathon so she has redeems to switch between all her old models. she really doesn't get new models that much. the fact that "every time you see her" she has a new one just means you don't watch her.
@@sangan3202By my count, there are 29 on her wiki page, not including the alts of each. (30 including the free one she started with.) Edit: oh, I wasn't even counting "additional models" which adds another 15 or so.
I feel like this is somewhat of an "Absence makes the heart grow stronger" type of situation. Ironmouse streams WAY more than Neuro does. So everyone watching Neuro wants more of her but is limited by Vedals Schedule. So they come together much more effectivly with likeminded Swarm members wishing to please their AI-Queen.
i never watch this streamer but from this clip i can say: she is to corpa and to self centered. also what a read from the comments made me think she is a bit hate full for my taste.
Ngl I've always thought these Reddit canvases were cringe and lame, and even more so when streamers start being involved because half the time it ends up being a measure of just whose audience is bigger and stroking the ego of the bigger creator. Not saying this about mouse specifically, that's just how it usually ends up.
The issue with this is that the swarm is a bunch of "humans". It's a dedicated community who would be even willing to create bots to accomplish their goals.
Even from the beginning you could see that there are A LOT more on the swarm side. There was like 3 big arts of Neuro completed and zero from Mouse. The war is not a good idea, I think having most of the canvas about Mouse, things she likes and her friends would be better. But at least if she can get more subs from people who want to gain extra pixels on the canvas it is good, since it will help. But I am still on the side of having her seeing good things about people she like and things about her community more. The mural of Her and Connor will not be done at this pace, look what they did with poor Connor LMAO They should finish the VShoujo mural at the north-east too.
Okay it’s official now she truly despises the Swarm, she hates Vedal, she hates Neuro. Time to send some threats, can’t believe Vtuber can’t take jokes anymore. The audacity to destroy the art we all worked so hard for, she must really really hate everyone involved with Vedal Edit: Seems like people don’t understand what sarcasm is like, the comment is obviously so over the top and completely contradictory to what Ironmouse said at the beginning about loving the swarm, that I truly question how people think I mean any of that seriously
It's not cool to just defend the same thing without moving it. It kinda sucks that Swarm doesn't really have leadership, there's just like 3 people who add stuff to template and usually don't move or crop anything
@@tinyturtle1898 Actually the swarm had co-ordination during the first Canvas, but Connor accused the Swarm of being bots and so deleted what the Swarm did The swarm was so organised back then, but what Connor ended up doing disheartened a lot of people Why try now, when the same thing might happen again?
@@isaiah_not_isaac_ She just said that she can replace it with her art if she wants to. That's the same as what cdawg did when he didn't like a bunch of neuro art being on the canvas. They can do whatever they want. I'm just saying its pointless to engage with it if they are going to cheat.
Are the communities similar in number? The start seemed like the swarm had way more people. But the community overall should make a complete panel about Mouse at the end with her Friends, Cinnamonrolls, things she likes, I bet she would love it. Maybe some art about the minecraft servers they had. For the Famoly 😆
it's not bots, it's big communities communicating on discord. you can't do anything by yourself indeed. if you get a small group you can maybe make a tiny pixel emote, if one of the big groups doesn't decide it's their territory.
on neurocord server, can confirm what zanpaa said in that they are communicating and working together. they're pretty active even now. no botting necessary lol
@@tripleaaabattery8480 @Zanpaa it's bots. the last time i tested my theory over 3 days and they perfectly redid my pixels in the exact order i did them. at multiple locations. i wasn't even about to overwrite something, just fixed some details. thex constantly, every half an hour redid my steps. pixel by pixel. the exact order i did them. these were 100% bots. Running a script in the browser and not setting the pixels by themselves. i could even pinpoint their location by looking at the 8 hour window in which the bot did nothing. it's frickin bots
JOIN HERE eliv.moe/mouse
not pinned?
The thing she will never achieve or understand.We the Swarm are united, a single hivemind, to please our Machine God, Neuro.
*vedal
@@nobodywatchesnooby Neudal*
@@nobodywatchesnooby He's the Femboy god, Lord of Lamborghini, and father of the holy machine deities
@@usarhabilidade2697like the father of Zeus he too will fall upon the power of its offspring
@@nobodywatchesnooby He's biological, he's more the Father of the Machine God. Like Christianity, father(Vedal), Jesus(Neuro), and Evil(the holy Spirit) oh, Anny can be the virgin Mary. At least that's how I think our religion of the Machine God is structured.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you.
One day the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But i am already saved.
One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved 🗿🤖
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine. Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you.
One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal… Even in death I serve the Fun AI. All hail the Swarm, ALL HAIL NEURO-SAMA!
Hail the Omnimessiah, Evil! Hail the Machine Goddess, Neuro! Prayge
I wonder if the canvas is a nice gateway into finally having a mouse and Neuro collab. Neuro has mentioned wanting a collab with her like 10000 times.
Both #1 vtubers collabbing is peak
@@rolandkarimdesucatan5118 Mouse has said in various ways that she despises content made by IA. not directly talking trash about Neuro, but not interested in that type of content nor way of entertainment. its really hard that we actually see a collab between Mouse and Vedal.
@cristo142 but neuro isn't an ai that is trained from stolen art or all the other horrible unethical practices. She's was trained via interactions with chat and vedal's hardwork. This is true for her speech model, singing, and gameplay. Even some of the vtubers who hate AI most in the community have either collabed with neuro or spoke positively or her so even that's not a barrier. People have a problem with AI art because it's garbage stolen and frankisteined together from beautiful art made my hardworking artists. Neuro was built purely by vedal and his hardwork, she isn't even based off an existing ai model like other chat bots, she's her own model
@@cristo142 I think what Mouse, and really what most people who complain about AI generated content are on about is not that it's made by artificial intelligence itself. But rather, such examples, especially online, are done and presented in very low effort ways. Either being too sanitize or too incoherent to be entertaining in the long term, and most importantly barely having a distinct personality to stick on to or in most cases, none at all. It's not that people actually hate the idea of AI itself that's the problem, but rather they are perceived as souless, and have no real human effort put behind them other than spending an evening coding in sludge. Or badly rendering hands.
What seperates Neuro, and even her sister Evil from the rest of the crowd however is that regardless of what you think of AI, there is clear effort put behind their avatars that makes it unique. And while they might still be overly glorified chatbots in the end of day. Their cute voice, childlike outlook, and family dynamic with their creator is the magic that makes people see Neuro as something more than just simple AI schlop. But rather, someone to be entertained by and follow to see what comes next.
And of course how can we forget our resident alcoholic single father Brit Vedal. Who behind the scenes, made sure that the content doesn't become too stale nor too repetitive. Always finding collab partners and cooking up unique scenarios to watch. As well being quite the entertaining individual himself.
All in all it's not hard to see a collab between the Mouse and the Tutel someday. It's really just a matter of time, and priorities of course.
@@cristo142 I don't even watch Mouse and even I have seen her get excited just because neuro gets mentioned. She also openly admitted to wanting to do a collab with Neuro
A worthy opponent for the Swarm. This battle will be legendary
Not worthy at all they’re weak cheaters
@@richie0099 bro chill its just a canvas
update on the war:
after many hard fought battles and close calls we always managed fight them of each time and win the war.
at some point the swarm council want into a meeting with some of Ironmouses mods and it was decided that we (the swarm) would move some of our art so that ironmouse could finish her art. and we lived happily ever after.
well that is until the next war because remember: "There is no canvas that we do not answer. There is no pixel that we betray. We are The Swarm".
Man... 1 thought just came to mind.
Neuro got the chinese Bilibili swarm now.
how often do you think easterners care about western twitch canvas wars? I dont think its often enough
@@vynsyxx we do have some support from the cn swarm, one of the bigger bilibili clippers (hotchicken) did send a note about the canvas
@@vynsyxxbut since Bilibili gets Neuro and Neuro related clips I am sure this clip must have also reached the Bilibili swarm.
@@vynsyxx I don't really not but as a Filipino from the east, a lot of us do. And the competitive vibes do fuel some pettiness. 😅
@@knaditya8228 um i dont see it on bilibli yet
Remember swarmlings, its all in good fun. Don't forget our ultimate goal is silliness.
Was it not world domination?
@@Gabriel-nw6fcshhh don't spoil the surprise
@@Gabriel-nw6fc world domination is a silly thing to do
You're declaring war on a fanbase of circle-clickers, on a canvas you click squares.
Think Mousey, Think!
It's extremely cool to see minawan in there with a little cerber area too
Glad she insisted that it's all in good fun, seems like people from both communities often forget that
And let's go swarm o7
She doesn't know we recently evolved into a religion 😎 🙏 Mousey is cooked
i placed my pickle o7
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I believe in the swarm. That and AI overlords from the future will read my loyalty.
Ironmouse: Prepare for war!
Neuro: LOL L
Chat: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The truly best things to come out of pixel canvases are the unique artworks.
never underestimate the swarm, you may outnumber us but you will never out manuever us. A WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED AND TO WAR WE SHALL GO
Our faction in pxls outnumbers their faction like 5:1 lmao. Somehow the swarm has number advantage.
@@anonymoushuman1568 honestly did not expect that, guess while iron mouse has more followers the swarm has more active followers
@@anonymoushuman1568 we require more manpower, Bilibili swarm should join as well
@@lowkeyarki7091 from pfam discord, we tried getting more people involved but the twitch chat would only participate if mouse should the canvas on stream, only discord members were actively building mouses art for most of the canvas
I'll do my part to help spread the word o7
My only issue with participating in the ironmouse and conor canvas's is they get the admins to give themselves and their subs extra pixels. I agree its all in good fun. But to me the fun is basically going to war on the canvas and it's ruined if someone has a handycap. IDK if they are doing it this time, but conor did it with his like 10 times and it ruined my enjoyment of it lol. Its not fun sitting there clicking pixels for hours only for a streamer to message his mods and get 10,000 pixels and just shit on you.
All things aside, it's crazy that swarm can hold it's own againts one of the largest fanbases in the indie vtuber scene. It was apparent during Cdawg coverage, but now with even more dedicated fans. Neuro's community is becoming a force to be reckon with once they put their mind into something. If you got a canvas, swarm will surely take over. In all in good fun of course.
Believe in the Time God! Unleash the Abber Demon!
The Devil vs the Omnissiah?!
Korne Vs. Omnissiah.
The swarm canvas art is always SO GOOD
We must stay strong, Swarm bretheren
Let the battle commence
🐢 That's crazy 🐢 That's actually crazy 🐢 That's messed up 🐢
livestream? could do with general staz helping the war effort!
The things that immediately stood out were Neuro pictures, but that Evil one took the cake. It was so bad ass.
WE GO TO WAR SWARM
The Swarm took alot of canvas spots, they must be huge.
Actually destroyed
One thing she's clueless about is that P2W goes both ways, there are swarm members who subbed to ironmouse just to get those extra pixels
I don't think she is clueless about it I think that is exactly the point.
@@BobbyReinman shameless but it's worth it
@@BobbyReinman Corpa Clap
*Ironmouse Defense Force vs The Swarm*
Who wins?
we are the swarm that is approaching~
yeah the swarm is a machine when it comes to canvases
Those damn swarm!!! They are soo good!! I like their art 😎
I would convoke the chinese fanbase if only I had a baidu account...
ﹰyou need a twitch account for that and the chinease people only have billibilli.
For the queen 👑 for neuro
How do you join the canvas
Mousey you dont want this war
Ok, time for another pixel battle. We didn’t lose before, we won’t lose this time either
Unless it’s rigged
war has changed
Canvas war 2 ?
She lost the battle.
She did not lose the war, but she lost the battle.
"War" is not really a war, we just boringly moved our template, lol
So when Neuro gonna be in Speak of the Devil?
bro everytime i see ironmouse she has a new model
ikr its exhausting
She's single handedly keeping model riggers in business
this one is an old model brother lmao
this is her subathon so she has redeems to switch between all her old models. she really doesn't get new models that much. the fact that "every time you see her" she has a new one just means you don't watch her.
she has prob over 30 she collects them like skins its pretty cool
@@sangan3202By my count, there are 29 on her wiki page, not including the alts of each. (30 including the free one she started with.)
Edit: oh, I wasn't even counting "additional models" which adds another 15 or so.
I feel like this is somewhat of an "Absence makes the heart grow stronger" type of situation.
Ironmouse streams WAY more than Neuro does. So everyone watching Neuro wants more of her but is limited by Vedals Schedule. So they come together much more effectivly with likeminded Swarm members wishing to please their AI-Queen.
Pixel drama pog
Foolish devil, she is no match for the twin machine goddesses. They are ying and yang, demon and angel, togheter, they have no weakness.
Let the crusade commence
Omissiah vs slannesh
What is the canvas for?
Just for fun right?
Fun and charity. You get extra pixels by subbing to Mouse and she'll apparently donate the money to the immune deficiency foundation.
@@EmhyrvarSpice Oh cool!
@@EmhyrvarSpice 50% of the money iirc
SWARM PREPARE FOR BATTLE
Yo staz, i think you're missing content in the discord vc. You might even be here rn but it's so laggy for me I can't tell
LETSGO WARRRRRRRRRRRR HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
War in heaven
so for the subathon she's just doing eveything connor's ever streamed 🤣
NaIcE
**insert pepeW emote here**
Oh shit
. Didnt join the pixel war since cdawgva canvas ciz that was tiring
But this is outrageous!!! /j
To war swarm !!!!
You wot m8
They cheated last time..
Will they do it again?
i never watch this streamer but from this clip i can say: she is to corpa and to self centered. also what a read from the comments made me think she is a bit hate full for my taste.
This and also kinda hypocrite, speaking about not taking it seriously, proceeds to declare a pixelwar because not enough pictures of her were drawn
@@Lucky74567wdym you act like is declaring an actual war, its a pixel war which in no way is serious
Ngl I've always thought these Reddit canvases were cringe and lame, and even more so when streamers start being involved because half the time it ends up being a measure of just whose audience is bigger and stroking the ego of the bigger creator. Not saying this about mouse specifically, that's just how it usually ends up.
Hopefully she won't cheat again lol
Cheating won't do much when anyone can get a stupid amount of pixels through p2w. Though, I guess its ironmouse winning either way lol.
@@anonymoushuman1568 She's donating it to the immune deficiency foundation apparently.
Unpopular opinion? Ironmouse is overrated.
BASED
Nah, she'd lose
Connor and IronMouse need to apologize for cheating against Anny and the Swarm.
The issue with this is that the swarm is a bunch of "humans". It's a dedicated community who would be even willing to create bots to accomplish their goals.
Even from the beginning you could see that there are A LOT more on the swarm side. There was like 3 big arts of Neuro completed and zero from Mouse.
The war is not a good idea, I think having most of the canvas about Mouse, things she likes and her friends would be better.
But at least if she can get more subs from people who want to gain extra pixels on the canvas it is good, since it will help. But I am still on the side of having her seeing good things about people she like and things about her community more. The mural of Her and Connor will not be done at this pace, look what they did with poor Connor LMAO
They should finish the VShoujo mural at the north-east too.
Ah, the classic 'iT Is AlL bOts, wE aRE ThE vIctIms hErE", didn' t work on Connor's canvas trying on Mouse's?
Waiting for another cheating from Connor KEKW
i mean covering other people's art is cringe
Okay it’s official now she truly despises the Swarm, she hates Vedal, she hates Neuro. Time to send some threats, can’t believe Vtuber can’t take jokes anymore. The audacity to destroy the art we all worked so hard for, she must really really hate everyone involved with Vedal
Edit: Seems like people don’t understand what sarcasm is like, the comment is obviously so over the top and completely contradictory to what Ironmouse said at the beginning about loving the swarm, that I truly question how people think I mean any of that seriously
It's not cool to just defend the same thing without moving it. It kinda sucks that Swarm doesn't really have leadership, there's just like 3 people who add stuff to template and usually don't move or crop anything
@@tinyturtle1898 Actually the swarm had co-ordination during the first Canvas, but Connor accused the Swarm of being bots and so deleted what the Swarm did
The swarm was so organised back then, but what Connor ended up doing disheartened a lot of people
Why try now, when the same thing might happen again?
The swarm may be saddened, but we are not maddened!
just to be sure, this is irony right ? Anyone seriously saying "time to send some threats" needs to chill
@@yummy4192 no it's not, this is all real, this is WAR and she's asked for it, it's time for us to show em we ain't to be messed with.
She seems just as petty as cdawg was during his canvas event. Why bother when they cheat anyway.
??? mouse didn't cheat tho. Canvas has been p2w since beginning. Also donations are going to charity so does it really matter.
@@isaiah_not_isaac_ She just said that she can replace it with her art if she wants to. That's the same as what cdawg did when he didn't like a bunch of neuro art being on the canvas. They can do whatever they want. I'm just saying its pointless to engage with it if they are going to cheat.
rent free
@@Lavi-qr7eh do you have selective hearing when did she say this Modcheck
Help why there’s always too many neuro-samas
These Reddit canvases have always been cringe. They're just a way for streamers to stroke their own ego.
Are the communities similar in number? The start seemed like the swarm had way more people. But the community overall should make a complete panel about Mouse at the end with her Friends, Cinnamonrolls, things she likes, I bet she would love it. Maybe some art about the minecraft servers they had.
For the Famoly 😆
First
So many bots in these canvas, i gave up long time ago. It's just not fun when everything you do gets automatically overwritten instantly.
it's not bots, it's big communities communicating on discord. you can't do anything by yourself indeed. if you get a small group you can maybe make a tiny pixel emote, if one of the big groups doesn't decide it's their territory.
on neurocord server, can confirm what zanpaa said in that they are communicating and working together. they're pretty active even now. no botting necessary lol
@@tripleaaabattery8480 @Zanpaa it's bots. the last time i tested my theory over 3 days and they perfectly redid my pixels in the exact order i did them. at multiple locations. i wasn't even about to overwrite something, just fixed some details. thex constantly, every half an hour redid my steps. pixel by pixel. the exact order i did them. these were 100% bots. Running a script in the browser and not setting the pixels by themselves. i could even pinpoint their location by looking at the 8 hour window in which the bot did nothing. it's frickin bots