MEN ARE THE ENEMY, or so I thought - Listen Closely
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02:14 - The filmmaker describes her experiences interviewing members of the men's rights movement and her lack of true listening during the process.
06:10 - She reflects on her initial knee-jerk reactions to certain statements made by men's rights activists and her evolving views.
12:06 - The filmmaker discusses her initial responses to specific issues raised by men's rights activists, realizing later that her reactions were not warranted.
13:55 - She highlights the human rights issues that uniquely or disproportionately affect men, including paternity fraud, workplace deaths, and sentencing disparity.
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until you found out you had to mow your own lawn and it was far FAR too much work for your manicured nails? yeah
You say you don't call yourself a feminist any longer.
Maybe that is wise if one takes into account that 'feminism' today means something totally different to what it meant originally - claiming to have the same rights/treatment as men in the same cases. Today 'feminism' means demonising men, claiming to be excused by default for every shortcoming and failure, claiming entitlement to everything without any contribution to it, etc. etc.
I, 70yr.'cismale', still call myself a feminist in the old sense.
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Yea, it's all very nice, but no woman is listening - as you said.
When do they ever? 😂
Why would they? It's not like they'd even notice. They don't have to notice. Most women are focused on themselves to the point that they don't even pay attention to their own children.
True. Deaf ears because its the accountability that women dont face.
Can't listen when you're talking.
Thats the most ungreatful viewpoint you could possibly take in this scenario.
It has to start somewhere.
From your black pilled point of view, this worth nothing.
Youre just sulking in your missery, being a victim just like the people you most likely complain about.
Be greatful SOMEONE on the other side actually came to this conclusion.
And is actively working, *exclusively* I might add, to spreading this view.
Shes doing more for mens right than you are.
10 years ago there were none.
5 years ago there were 3.
Today there is maybe 30 or 40.
A drop in the bucket still...
But it is growing.
B¡t©hing and moaning about how they will never listen, on a video like this, is one of the least manly thing I could possibly imagine.
It fell on deaf ears. Now you have women crying on TikTok they cant get a date, men wont approach them. This is literally what they wanted and screamed for. Now ~60% of men have checked out.
Woman are never happy when they get what they want. Nor are they happy when they don't. They ARE happier the more they get to complain about.
Approaching women can get men arrested for harassment or disciplined by a company or college for doing so and even paying a women a compliment can get a man into trouble.
@@karlgreene2177 Is "Good Morning, you ugly angry old hag" adequate to avoid being creepy? Asking for a friend...🤣
@@karlgreene2177 I don't compliment women or discuss their looks or show that anything physical about them has even occurred to me. It's not safe, and the consequences can be permanent.
Next they will legislate to pay men to marry failed narcissistic females. But she will get the money after the divorce
Cassie Jaye was just labelled as a "pick me". Women didn't listen, they attacked her.
Many listen, but they are too cowardly to admit it in public because they will be attacked next. Women eat their own in a way men do not understand.
To be expected
Making up more terms to support their delusions about men. We men see it, but no one listens. It’s pathetic, which leads into misogynistic accusations. Yah we know all too well how woman think emotionally and not logically.
Any excuse, because bad news is never true.
A poultry acting as a poultry, what is a surprise here?
For "most" men this does not bother us. Why? We learned at any early age that no one cares about us and that nothing would be given to us. Like everything else throughout history we will figure this problem out and women will be left behind. It already started!
no, you're telling yourself it doesn't bother you. you'vbe told yourself that so many times you've believed it
@@aaron75fy No, we've learned that it doesn't matter whether it bothers us or not. We are on our own so no point in thinking about it.
@@robertd9850 exactly, you've trained your brain to pretend everything is fine. it doesn't change your actions to it
That's exactly what is is. No one cares, and no one is *going* to care. I honestly wouldn't have a problem with it if the odds were better for me to get married and *stay* married.
I learned at 16 that nobody cares about me expect for my dad. Due to my dad's example of integrity and work ethic I put myself through college receiving 3 degrees. I understood if I didn't work hard I would be homeless. I was always jealous that women seemed to have it easier. They had boyfriends, husbands, and family to take care of them. We all have our own struggles men just do it in silence.
The fact that Cassie Jaye got so much hate for telling facts and truth is proof enough that she is correct since she only clarified men's position, there was no hate toward women...
"they're saying, 'hey, we have problems over here, too'"
"You know that you're over the target when you're taking the most flak."
You speak for yourself......
It's crazy how it's completely normal/accepted that she refers to men as her enemy. E.g. "when you start to humanize your enemy, you may be dehumanized by your community". I don't think I've ever met a man who thinks of a woman as their enemy. Big big problem.
None that admit it. Its a crime to accept how they treat men.
It's more about rethoric
She invites us in her thought process, on all humility and honesty
And she even realized at the end that the only enemy she met was her ego.
I profoundly respect her for delivering her journey in these words, because she takes accountability for her wrong train of thoughts
I never used to but I certainly consider women a potential threat at this point. Enemy no but not sweet innocent victims.
@brookeshane3170 I struggle with something like this.
Something on the line of women need to realize that systemic toxicity does not belong only to the men space
No-one is innocent victims only and if they need some constructive criticism, but refuse to listen to men, to educate themselves or to engage in discussions between caring mothers, sisters or friends, how are they going to understand if they are wrong...
@@RadouaneSbaa I don't think they don't know they are wrong. They just don't care.
This talk really shows why it can be so hard to have a rational discussion with some women. You say one thing, they hear (or make up) another thing. It just leaves you confused, wondering why you can't seem to make your point understood.
My wife doesn't listen at all. She waits for the opportunity to blame me for our issues. Then she reacts to why I am so distant.
Here we go again.
I will say, "women can learn to reward the good men and reject the bad men", as a statement to encourage agency. They hear, "I am blaming women for bad men". I say, "women need to be careful about where they walk at night". They think I am blaming the victim.
@@prschusterRules for Radicals Critical Theory is, possibly, where Saul Alinsky and their ilk, got that game from. Their mothers doing that to their fathers.
@@n9wff The bottom line is, find a woman who has/had a good relationship with her father. You will have nothing but love in that relationship.
The culture problem is women’s to fix. Which is why it will never get fixed
Everyone talks about "toxic masculinity" but blithely disregard, and minimize Toxic Misandry that is the dominant media supported perspective.
Toxic femininity/missandry gaslighting, projecting and emasculating men is the real issue in this clown femenazi world.
Most women never want to grow up and listen to objective reality...
You mean toxic femininity. The entire concept of masculinity or femininity being toxic is horseshit. Masculinity is masculinity whether you like it or not. Femininity is femininity whether you like it or not. Hating one or the other is Misandry or misogyny and neither is good.
Well said. We live in an age where ‘inclusion’ and ‘diversity’ are supposedly important yet advocates of each seem only to practice their opposites (and dismiss those of us who see the reality of what they’re doing as ‘far-right’, when all we’re trying to do is *genuinely* practice inclusion and diversity).
Finally it has been acknowledged and named by scientists. It's officially now called "gamma bias".
Toxic feminism has caused great misery to women and men. What an awful philosophy to consider half the species as your enemy. Delusional
Speaking as a Gen X man my conclusion is that it’s impossible to reason with the unreasonable, and that the majority of women are simply unable to comprehend reason and lack the ability to think logically / critically. Kudos to you for realising and admitting your thought patterns weren’t serving you well, accountability is most often kryptonite for women.
That's why the MGTOW movement got started.
Reminds me of the movie, "As Good As It Gets". Jack Nicholson is asked how he understands women so well? He says, "I think of a man, and I take away all reason and accountability."
Not all women, but a certain amount of them can not accept when they are wrong, and you clearly point it out with facts and logic, they just get mad and or start crying. If men act like that you would be shunned. Honestly men who support women's bad behavior and believe their lies are even worse than the women themselves.
I tend to agree but with one change: It's not women, but current wave feminists and their allies who are the problem.
You can't use reason someone out of an opinion who didn't reason themselves into an opinion.
I'm a 68 year old man and who just watched this video on RUclips. I was impressed by what you had to say, and by the fact that you discovered you weren't listening to what the men were telling you.
It takes a big person to admit when they are wrong.
Now you will be an even better documentary filmmaker, and I will be sure to watch any documentaries that you produce in the future.
God bless and have a great day.
she will not make any other of that kind, this speech was most likely to get more men to know and simp for her..
Women do NOTHING for men unless they can make money out of it.
The problem with depending on women to listen, is that they don't listen at all. Not even Cassie Jaye listened, when she had the men right in front of her. It was only after transcribing their words, much later, that she finally heard. No woman is going to listen and truly hear a man, in the moment.
The brains of men and women are different, information is received and sent using different speech patterns and different cognitive functions.
You're absolutely right.
Cassie Jaye spent 3 years being confronted with the truth on a daily basis while making her documentary, until the penny finally dropped.
What are the chances of the average woman giving up the gynocentric, world view that she has been brought up with; especially when it is so much to her advantage?
@@firebirdtelevision175 no they are not women just flat out do not care simple as wake up
from what i see... she still don't believe those things.. Its just that is easy attention and easy money doing these videos..
Same with pearl and every women who talk for men, they don't give a shit, they just use those words to make money and likes.
If they really cares, you would have already seen huge movement of women trying to fight for men, where are them ?
“Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies.And feminine democracies give way to tyranny.”(Aristotle)
All elements both men and women embody. I’m pretty sure he didn’t mean Women ..
@@kojoefante elements of both... true. I'm sure he meant that we should never let women lead because they are mite feminine.
Read again.......@@kojoefante
Aristotle should have added that feminine democracies give way to marxism.
@@RobRochon I agree.By giving women the vote ,Our grandchildren will descend into the abyss.
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If it were free, I would read the book by Norah Vincent.
Then again, I am finding most women are blind and deaf to men's needs and issues, including my wife.
No appreciation, no reciprocating, just tell us to carry more burdens.
Well someone told that respect is get or by fear or by admiration.
Check your library.
@N-John533 Not true, you respect cops cause you fear them.
Norah was so impressed by her little experiment she eventually went to Europe for an assisted ending. THAT is how much worse the male experience is than the female experience.
Try your local library.
we don't need to be heard. At this point, we just want to be left alone.
Absolutely fuckin agree. I haven't had a relationship since I graduated high school and I turn 30 in less than a month. It was hard for many years, but now I absolutely love it. It's weird that now I get more satisfaction giving women the cold shoulder, if I'm even given any attention at all.
@@OriginalDrGonzo 💯
and it's showing. I got this thrown in my face at work recently, started working at a refrigeration company, an all male enviroment. I got hired together with this girl my age. Thought nothing of it at first. She was cheerful and ok the first days, then i realized something was amiss. Despite being attractive and actually being an ok girl, she was getting absolutely no attention and not a sliver of a different treatment. NO ONE is fawning over her and she is treated exactly as a male employee would be. This struck me as outlandish as this wouldn't have happened at all a few years ago. Things really changed, men really don't wanna put up with this anymore, even more so in a working enviroment. I feel sorry for her but hopefully this will be useful to her in the future when it might cross her mind to listen to some feminist bs. By the way she is in no way being disrespected, she's just being treated like a man..which might be arguably worse for a woman
Amen brother
No wife HAPPY life
Many years ago, I was working in a supermarket in the south west of England. Among the 500 employees was a middle aged woman and her two daughters. The mother was an outrageous feminist who constantly berated men. One day while she was outside the shop having a break, I asked her to name everything that she could see around us. She named the lamp posts, car park, houses, the roads and pavements, the petrol station etc. Then I asked her how she thought that they actually appeared there. She told me that she supposed that some men put them there. Then I asked her if she thought that the same group of men were responsible for the making of the items and materials, and she was stunned into silence. I explained that what she took for granted every day, involved gargantuan effort of millions of men working endlessly to create the environment around her. She remained silent thereafter.
Yep shit just works, they don't take into account how or why it works.
Well done by only simple questions. You got her to actually think.
@@jamesharmon3827 Or what drives men to spend a large portion of their lives toiling away at dangerous jobs. It's for their wife and children.
Feminism = misandry.
Misogyny =oppression
no feminism = cancer
So true, brother, but by their very nature they are blinded.
Her point about suicide. One does not attempt suicide. So-called attempted suicides are cries for help or for attention seeking. They are not real. When one commits suicide one dies. Dead. All the way dead. No way back. No way for a family to come and find out what the hell is going on or for people to feel sorry for the person.
Generally speaking, women believe that their feelings are accurate. They believe that their emotions are realistic methods to measure reality. It is EXTREMELY rare to come across a woman who understands that her emotions are instinctual reactions that are filtered through what she has learned at the time of feeling them. They have no understanding at all that emotions are just as likely to be wrong as to be right, if not more so. (edit: well... no... they DO understand that, but rationalize every possible way to ignore it)
there was 1 mens shelter independently funded in alberta canada. the femi nists constantly accused the owner of child m0le station and bullied him to suicide. he couldnt get any govt funding while still alive.
Wow that is just dark.
They showed you who and what they are.
Many posted this week about him, memorializing his work and suicide. Tragic
@@allenhammer7923 Society in general does not care about men, and won't until we force the issue. The MRM and MGTOW both need to grow larger if we're going to make any headway in this.
"People don't listen to understand, People listen to reply only"
WOMEN listen to reply, in a manner which benefits them, that’s as deep as they think in a conversation
@@Oldmane-420 That's people as a whole. Very few people actually understand the art of listening or were taught it.
"Correctamondo".
Having tried relationships and bent over backwards to be fair in my relationships, only to be shafted by the women I have loved, I choose to be single for peace of mind and a quiet life.
My guess is only men will be actually listening to your dialogue, but I thank you for pointing out the facts of LIFE!
I was like this but I became very lonely. I talked to a foreign girl for two years before meeting her, made very sure I wasn’t going down the same shitty path again, then just got on and married her. We now have a little daughter, have 7 years behind us, and while nothing is perfect, we’re happy. I took a risk but I was very guarded until I trusted her.
Good luck; give it a try, there are a few non selfish ones out there
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After 2 divorces I decided to stay single until I could find a woman who understood both sides of the equation . Been single 28 years with no plans to change, things have only become worse.
I am a gen x'r I have watched the hate and stereotypes about men and indeed myself manifest in the world to dizzying degrees. I have decided that I'd rather die alone than attempt another relationship with a woman who will not respect or appreciate me as much as I do her. The best part though. I am totally ok with it.
Winter is here.
Good luck, ladies!
You are on your own.
The women will get used to wearing a burka.
Strong and independent women shoveling snow.
Except for sex...men and women are not compatible.
It fell on deaf ears for everybody
As a man who has had "discussions" with countless women, "not listening" really is the default setting.
Women, like many who feel threatened, are waiting for their chance to hammer home their point rather thsn listening and assesing answers.
This is so prevalent that it is at the core of humour about married life.
We joke about the subjugated male. Brow beaten man should just swallow and stand...maybe a little shorter each time.
This is a reason i have never been married. I am approaching 60 and have never allowed myself to be lowered enough to accept this.
I fight back and walk away when i feel under valued and so, have no family and no children.
I have lost a lot and it makes me sad.
This is just a small example of how men are not treated equally.
This content covers the vast swathe of other areas.
Thankyou for the Red Pill film. And i am glad you felt what it was like to be a man for a short time in 2016.
sadly she 100% did this for money.. women are like that.
They see men weakness and exploit them to make money.
Im 41, still single too, and most likely will be for the rest of my life, even if i would have no problem finding a woman, i just can't trust them anymore.
Even when i talk with my own family women, they are exactly like that... they never listen, they only want to be listened AND to be right whatever we talk about, when you say something they answer with unrelated things that were related in their own mind, but had nothing to do with what's been discussed.
And as far as my experience says, women are like that almost everywhere.
Maybe in poor countries they are still willing to listen, but that's only cause there aren't "same rights"
As soon as you put women on equal foot to men, they WILL step on them and spit on them, cause ALL women want "the better men"
That speech is already quite old. Meanwhile feminism reached a different level.
its not only old, its also useless, it "sound" nice, but its just words in the end, no women will ever fight for men, because its just against their own nature.
Most they can do , is "act" like they do it, and get money while doing it, like this woman, like pearl, etc.. that's the best we can get.
Women faking it to make money and get men attention.
We don't complain. We just suck it up and do whatever we have to do. Because we understand that's just how it is, and we have a term is called "you gotta man up."
And then the women felt left out and in the spirit of "equality", had to come up with their own phrase: "Time to put your big girl panties on."
It's odd that I never even saw myself as a victim, as somebody who had to "just suck it up". I embraced challenge, overcame obstacles and regarded myself as a normal man.
I am so glad that none of this victim mentality ever entered my young world.
@@siegfriedbraun5447 Yes, I was a teenager in the 80s, so I don't have the victim mentality either. We were rough on each other and we all got along still.
Something my grandfathers taught me at a very young age is that life is not, and never will be, fair so get over it and move on. Time some of the women learn that lesson as well, if it's not too late for them.
We do our pain by ourselves and ourselves only.Then we say oh well I will hide here today in peace.We understand no one gives two shits,
This level of self-awareness is truly impressive and what society lacks most, from both men and women.
This woman is truly wise
No such thing as wise women. 99% hate men or want to take advantage or BM with ME2. Trust can never be restored.
She is wise, but it won't make any difference. There aren't enough women spreading this message. Most women are either extremely misandrist, or silent.
Maybe we can get AI to clone her ?
No she is not but God forced her to repent to some degree.
@@stevenbaumann5911 It takes time... one by one until one becomes ten, then a hundred, then a thousand to a million.
Change is never instant.
The time for fine ideals is dead!
Men aren't silenced, they're rejected. So men tell men what the game is and men play the game in a way where they come out winning.
These women wanted their own way, men have given it to them. Now all we do is wait for the house to come crashing down.
Look out for other brothers men, and stay away from ground zero. Wherever you think ground zero may be.
when the social order collapses, all the independent adult women that are outside of a family relationship are f*cked
We're told all our lives that the world doesn't care about our problems. And it's true. In my entire life, there are just two women that ever asked me if something was wrong: my mom and a girl from high school that saved my life one day just by asking and listening to what I had to say. I was going to commit suicide that day, but when she listened, really heard me, it changed me. Gave me hope. Made me stronger. I never once forgot what she did for me. I pay it forward when I have the chance, because I know how much it means.
Not to sound brash or diminutive but you are lucky that you even had two. Many men I know, self included, never were asked if we were alright. If we were struggling we were all told to “man up” or not act like ‘female genitalia’. Glad you were fortunate enough to have that rare kindness and hope that you can paying it forward.
@@maxxod1 There may have been two that genuinely cared, let alone pretended to care, but the hundreds of people before, between, and since them, they all tell me to "man up." Those hundreds don't affect me like they used to, because like you, like most men, I steeled myself, developed the mental and emotional calluses that allow me to brush it off. But those two? They're the greatest armor against those hundreds and the thousands to come that I have.
@@JimiGosu Those two are precisely why I said that you are fortunate. Not only for their compassion but your ability to recognize it.
sadly she did nothing that any other friend of yours would have done if you had any.. So it wasn't anything special, and your mother lol, she's your mother, if she doesn't who have to?
Curious to know how many other times that happened tho.. Also i wonder if a "partner" will ever stay with a man taking his soul out , because women hate that in their partner.
@@WastedTalent83 Well, I was diagnosed with epilepsy at the time so a lot of people I thought were my friends distanced themselves from me. So no, there wasn't really anyone I thought I could turn to while I was spiraling into depression. That one girl though, she stepped up without having to be asked. It's a rare thing for men to encounter.
If any woman truly believes that men are the enemies of all woman, they should stand by that judgement have nothing more to do with us.....PLEASE!.
But that must include stepping away from everything we are responsible for too. So when your in your cave, cold, hungry naked and afraid, maybe learn to appreciate what you have and only judge others as you would yourself
Women will never stop manipulating and controlling and punishing men. They will never stop using men as a means to an end.
Its US men fault. We still do en masse agree to such social construct instead of just going our own way. If we just stopped prancing around hoping to win hopeless game, but colectively just worked enough to get by on our own with no dating and no presents and no priviges to them - there would be a correction soon enough, men are pretty simple, we would be fine with way less than what we have today just to attract someone.
@@jakubrogacz6829True. Regardless how men say we are done, we are NOT mirroring women’s actions and throwing them under the bus. When women are claiming to be done with men, we are not going the other way. We are basically begging them to comeback
@@jakubrogacz6829 I've never tried to show off my wealth, which isn't much lol. I drive a basic single cab Tacoma. I prefer to save my money. Probably part of why I'm single now.
I guess I need to have a shirt made featuring a screenshots of my saves... To show I just dress like I'm homeless.
Thank you for shearing. I'm a 69 year man, socially, I am sensitive, empathic and introvert; my wife was sculptor, strong and extrovert. A few days ago, I reacted to a "short" where a young woman said:"we live in a world made by men for men", and I don't agree. Yes, we live in a world made by men, but , as much as possible, for women. When you look at the world in a historical perspective, men and women living together is a quite new phenomenon. In the past, men lived in a "men's world", and you had the "world of women", but the two worlds did not mix; men were outdoor, women were indoor. Men have always built things for the protection of women and children. There was no real need for communication out of what was practical need. We live now in a world where we have the luxury of time and security. Indoor women have always communicate under the protection of men, but in our modern world, build by men, women have no need anymore for security, and they acquired a legal and financial autonomy. And that's the way men made a world where they are useless, in the point of view of most women who have no clue of how and why the world looks the way he looks, as a man said:"go outside and look around you", and the woman will go outside, look around and not understand. To be empathic means: I am not only hearing you, I listen and understand .
Going out of our way to make women's life better is our mistake. Women betray their own fathers, who are we when they can do that.
man sad to disappoint.. but women don't give a shit about men.
All you see is just a screen for them to make money..
I will believe women fighting for men ONLY when i see huge protests and groups that try to help men while doing ZERO money.
Whenever they get videos, likes, books and movies..
Its all and always about the money, never about the message. They just know men are gullible to women words specially when they "show empathy" which is just that tho.. a show.
We , as men have very limited options. We meet a nice lady , get along well , decide to make it permanent
We know going in that she is putting on a mask , but have to take the risk . Maybe she will be a partner in everything, maybe not
Our other choice is to stay single . We can just step back , or if our conscience allows can use and discard women
When getting married, we commit ourselves to a life of putting wife , family, grandkids before ourselves
We hope that our partner does not take more than we are able to supply
If it comes to a breaking point then we have very few choices. Separate and loose everything we have spent our lives building, run and loose everything we have spent our lives building or just check out
In any event the man is blamed for it all
We spend our lives working 14-16 hrs , 7 days a week , untill we are 80, and are told its not good enough.
Men are conditioned to believe we have limited options, but we can have high standards too. If you're marrying with that much uncertainty, you're probably marrying too soon. If you're working 14-16 hrs , 7 days a week, it's little wonder why she gets bored and the relationship fails. If you're putting everyone in your life ahead of yourself, no wonder you're unhappy. Marriage is supposed to be mutual support, and if all the woman does is take, then she's the wrong woman. I don't see any "balance" in what you're describing.
A teacher once told me “ just be kind to others, cus at the end of the day we are all trapped on earth and none of us are getting out alive” it’s still a very powerful quote to keep me from getting to angry or holding onto grudges or making assumptions, cus at the end of the day we are all on the same sinking ship
If all we have to look forward to is annihilation and a tomb (or a box if you're cremated) then our lives are indeed most pitiful. Look to Jesus and acknowledge your need of a savior and He will give a good reason for what you said - namely, that how you live can and will carry over into eternity.
And yet there are so many of us that are on the sinking ship alone.
Being single for 10yrs now has me accepting me as I am in my own skin. Family say I’m cold, but really I’m just extremely blunt these days. I don’t care about society, women or children. Walking away from those pressures of society has me on a different path to happiness and enlightenment.
Men learnt a long time ago that no ones listening to us. We are on our own, society turned its back on us. Mens issues are not only ignored, but laughed at. That's not victimhood, it's the reality we as men live in.
You have to experience it to fully realize it, and when you speak about it, you get called names. That's because those listening don't hear what you're saying. I get called sexist, incel, misogynist, and mansplainer all the time now. That's why women need to speak up.
Yep. This is their society now, they can deal with this issue. And they wont.
I was never called a misogynist ever for decades until I started demanding accountability. Twice in 1 year and implied many times I just don't like women. All I ask is why they do some things and when I suggest they don't exploit someone and just do it themselves for some reason this means I hate them lol. They get quite angry when you challenge their entitlement. Needs to be normalized.
Keep up the good work and look for opportunities to confront them or it will never change.@@brookeshane3170
Are there no misandroists, womensplainers, female incels etc.?
Wear it with pride. Screw what the braindead think.
Recent studies show that kids in single parent households do not do as well in life. Those studies also show kids raised by a Dad will fare better in life than kids raised by a single mother. The kids raised by dads are more responsible, achieve more, are more self sufficient, less likely to commit crime, will do better in school, etc. Etc. Etc. Dads are better parents!
I used to be a single dad for context. I am SICK of hearing this line as a "gotcha" to women. The dads cited in that study were specifically the dads who went after their kids in family court. The whole group of them has a selection bias, these are literally the best dads in the world, they would run through fire for their kids. The study didn't cite dads that turn and run immediately. So of COURSE all the kids of single dads in the study did way better. None of those single moms had to fight the way those dads did.
Or unless you had a dad that was in existence but lazy mentally and emotionally and let my mom run the show
I was made to feel like free slave labor
I was made to feel like I was a nuisance, hassle, project and a job
I have felt alone most of my life
@@user-ff8rs7gk6r good add on! I concur. :)
Garbage argument!
What about the single father's who didn't have to go thru court to get the kids, the mother up and left or sent the children back to the father anyway?
This is a gotcha to women, whether you like it or not. Children need men around so they become stable in life.
Some men are useless at parenting, but the men who step up to the responsibility make great parents and the children aspire to do great things.
@@returningtoperfection No, it's not. The only men cited in this study were the ones who were already willing to go after their kids in court. If we counted ALL dads, instead of just the ones who participate, the numbers would look much different.
I lost my children due to my ex wife's false allegation. I started my life over, and now have a good relation with one daughter. It took decades to be able to reconnect. Many years have been forever lost.
My marriage has been a series of being strong enough to absorb everything. and ive been told that really is the only way. Women are also tired of trying to be men. There screaming isnt because we are bad men, they are screaming because they are bad men.
"They're screaming isn't because we are bad men; they are screaming because they are bad men". Brilliantly said. 👋
"only then did I think of the other side of the gender equality equation". If that doesn't speak volumes. Women have always only ever been concerned about their side of the equation.
In the seventies when calls for equality were everywhere it didn't seem like equality was the goal, to me. I decided I'd believe it was only after women started attacking their unfair advantages...like free or cheap drinks for ladies night, exclusion from the draft in those days, fairness in court both divorce and criminal, etc. None of it has ever happened.
Another feel good story that won't change a thing about men being alone and withdrawing in their drive to keep going.
Yeah this woman's speech will has had a meaningless effect and things will literally never improve. How can it?
oh but trust me.. it changed her procket, because of all the idiots who still believe those liars.
Women don't give a shit about men problem.. if they "care" its only because they are making money out of it.
this woman, pearl, and all similar "content creator" brook writer and movie maker.. Do you think those money go to build men shelter? ahhahah
I comment as a 60 year old, very male, Englishman. This woman can stand up tall with her shoulders back - I’d follow her. Huge respect. She demonstrates the might of genuine femininity ; the strength of vulnerability; and the power that comes from humility and compassion for others. I hate it when feminists lower themselves to scrabbling for their entitlements and put others down to make themselves feel taller. That is not a feminism to be respected. But this lady - she is.
Her ability to challenge her own beliefs and learn compassion and empathy by listening to the struggles of others as well. We can all learn from listening to her now.
I just have to salute this woman for being willing to question herself and then for being so courageous in admitting her wrong ideas. So few people, men or women, seem to be willing to reverse their wrong point of view and then publicly admit what they discovered. Putting the truth first can bring radical change.
Her Ted Talk is old. But it's good that you reposted. Men need to be aware of this mindset.
Thank you.
I served in the military for 22 years, I’m also 5’10” and 270,I have never abused anyone. But on the flip side I’ve had a woman put her hands on me more than once. And honestly everyone just blew it off when I spoke out. So yeah it happens, getting anyone to believe us, now that’s the issue.
I don't know about anyone else but I find self awareness driven accountability attractive.
And this woman, against all odds, saw the world the way it is. No longer as she was taught.
The message I've gotten, time after time, is: "No one is coming to help you. You're on your own."
This RARELY happens to women.
I love man
I always have
I was blessed to be married to an amazing one . Lost him three years ago suddenly.
So watching all these females hating on men so much hurts my heart they just don’t know. I feel bad for them. I am so lucky that I was able to find my man and my son will be a great dad and husband .
That's if your son can find a decent women, which in this day and age is a lot harder than it was probably when you met your husband.
The I's have it.
The problem is most women can't fill the shoes of a man, and vice versa. We aren't built the same. Physically, or psychologically. It's why most construction workers are men, and most hospital employees are women. This applies to raising a child as well. They need to learn from both sides to understand society, and how a healthy relationship is supposed to work.
@@grndzro777true, yet statistics show the men are better at raising by themselves than women are!
You see? :)
Even tho you seems to be a nice woman..
You just showed how women think.
Never once you said "i feel bad for the men"
you said you felt bad for them (women)
women just can't even think to bring themselves getting worried for men, they just can't. (unless their man and in VERY rare cases..)
There are a few seminal moments that jarred me so completely that I knew my life would never be the same. Cassie Jay's "The Red Pill" lecture was one of those. The movie is a devastating and heartbreaking look at men and the women and culture that hate them.
Perfect examples of how emotions push out logic.
We are as you have made us.
120 million 6b0rti0n.
Oh look, a woman denying accountability.
Shocking, Shocking I say.
Actually not even surprising.
I assume you are talking to the fem'nists
Cassie learned the facts the hard way. She reminds me of a divorce lawyer who was asked whether women seeking divorce were abused physically and mentally. He said that such cases are now very rare. Most said they were bored with their husband. One question this lawyer asked his female clients at the outset was whether they wanted him to be fair with their husband or whether they wanted him to go after their husbands for as much money and resources as he could get from them. Few women now chose fairness. Marriage is going to disappear, and women are going to be responsible for its demise.
If women want equality and not special treatment, they're eventually going to get it; shared custody, no alimony or child support and a host of other privileges they get under the current system.
This is the ultimate "judging it's book by its cover"
I am a 68 year old man I have been betrayed by women who acted. Like they were my but they were not falsely accused of things by women. But the most disgusting thing was when my son and. Ex daughter in got my grandchildren to say I was allegedly. Sexually assaulting them when they were the ones hurting their own children. Five years my wife and I have been living in hell for a crime that never happened. A woman that will coach a child into saying that
about a innocent man. Is the most evil vial person on earth how can you do that to a child. They loved us and we loved them more than anything. All because they were envious of us they were lazy never cared for those. Precious gifts from God.
A woman or two apologizing is not going to change much. Some women are now aware they blundered, but they can’t turn their hatred off anymore. Many are still going their merry way hating men. It’s a lost of perhaps 3 - generations of women and the children they will not have. What’s worst is they’ll lose their souls.
An NDE from a book, “The Land Unknown” has a small chapter entitled “Dear Pudding.” Although the author never mentioned why she was damned, I found out later from one of his speeches that this woman was “manipulative of her husband” - a feminist characteristic of mistreating a husband. They need our prayers.
they are self-selecting themselves out of the gene pool, so there's that
Hate caused by what men put them through from the begining.
@@imaneassi you mean what life put them through, you can't blame "men" or i guess you can but it isn't really valid. It's like blaming all of a race, or something along those lines. It's really the same thing. Most "men" aren't wearing funny white wigs and making laws, they are carrying bricks and making ends meet paycheck to paycheck. Those guys did nothing.
@@imaneassiNo feminism teaches women to hate men.Feminism indoctranates women to hate men and believe all kinds of lies about men and tells them rediculous things like we don't need men.You heard how she was adding phrases she was wanting to hear to fit the Evil feminist narrative.I comment her for realizing men are discriminated and need to understand men are hurt by false accusations
@@imaneassi , it’s God who judges.
Went back to a womans place. She said No, so I didn't. Called her a week later. She said I had my chance...
You didn't dodge a bullet, my friend, you dodged a land mine.
She did you a favor.
@@robertlucky781 Praise God, Praise Jesus and The Holy Spirit for blessings/favors from the Lord you received.
And not a single person who can do anything about this is listening. If they hear her at all they are telling her to shut up. Sadly, I've learned to accept that other than a potential vote or potential tax dollars I don't matter. I'm ok with it. At least I know. Most people spend their lives in the dark.
This kind of sums up why we started this channel, as modern men, we have no option but to accept observable reality, be Disciplined, Focused, and Become the very best men we can so we get to choose life on our own terms.
Thanks for you comment @Enjoymentboy
Sure they are. They'll make it worse for all men.
Men - if you cant find a worthy mate to build it with you - then just build it anyway - but , be carefull not to take on any parasites after it's built
I dated a woman who, after a few weeks, revealed to me she was the victim of domestic violence. She was the head of the clothesline project in Boston. She went on and on about statistics of women's violence but one day she told me men who were victims of domestic violence tried to participate in the clothesline and were refused. I could not support ANY organization that excluded half the population.
She kept showing behaviors that she thought people were following her, that she wanted the drapes closed all the time, she never wanted to go out. What I found was that she was sleeping with at least 3 men or more and using the clothesline project as a cover for when she would be unavailable to you.
Men and women studying and working together is the greatest mistake ever. This will genocide our entire species with destroyed marriages, low birth rate etc.
hope you did not kiss her you would be kissing a lot of random tools
well, kinda obvious if you ask me..
women don't really have problems, they USE those problem for attention and as a distraction.
Its the same shit with depression etc.. why do you think women "Attempt" suicide more, but don't do it?
Its because EVEN THAT is just a way to get attention.
When she released that movie and described the response she got, she summed up how it feels to be a man and have any sort of disagreement with an average woman. Dehumanized indeed.
Listen, eh?
Listening won't keep the lights on or the water flowing.
Listening won't grow any food or drill for oil.
But then, women don't do those things either...
...while women claim to listen, men work in the fields that make everything else work.
However a woman who is listening will have a great meal ready for her man at the end of the day, and she will be teaching his children to listen to their father.
@@MartinDezion it will never happen.
Maybe at some point in the past society had that expectation, but I don't believe it was truly normal even then.
If a woman is doing something nice for you, it's because she wants something from you. Period. If you heard the way she speaks about you to her friends, you'd never ever believe she (or any woman) respects you (or any man).
@@ChristnThms There is nothing wrong about wanting something from your mate, from any relationship. It is all about: as you glorify me, I will glorify you. A marriage has created a new baby, a new entity, a new fixture in the Universe, where pilot and co-pilot are to nurture, to build up the new living entity, that they have created, and in doing so, each party achieves greater self realization and character advancement. All good relationships should be mutually beneficial. The degree of honesty and commonality of goals, verses amount of deception and betrayal is what makes the difference between mutual fulfillment or disappointing preditorial activity. (see; Taming Of The Shrew by Shakespeare)
@@ChristnThms The one thing that men fail or forget to measure is how much are they personally following God or true principle and grace, compared to how much loyalty they are expecting from their women. Why should a woman pay quality faithfulness to a man who does not know his Master?
@@MartinDezion you're making excuses for the total abandonment of morality by women.
If men have failings (and of course they do), these fails stand regardless of who else is involved.
Likewise, women's failings stand alone, regardless of who else is involved.
To answer your question directly, "Why should a woman be faithful?" She'd be faithful if she wasn't a soulless animal, which is the exact same reason a guy should be faithful.
Trying to shame men for refusing to sign up for a crooked deal is a specifically immoral stance. Until women BEGIN to take some responsibility, walking away is the only moral thing guys can do. I emphasize BEGIN, because right now we're at zero.
That few women actually listen is, imho, driven by the fact that women talk to each other about everything, then affirm each other. So they go into every conversation with a man 'knowing' they're right and don't listen to what he says, too busy anticipating what to say next. Men don't do this much at all. Women seem to have endless emotional needs, men not so much - so they reach out to other women. This results with the female collective declaring themselves right in everything and ignoring any injustice to men.
In a divorce, a woman walks away with the kids, half of all his finances, even retirement funds, as well as getting child support and spousal support regardless of the mans ability to pay. There are women's only nights, dinners, gyms, work events. Men don't get that. Women are the privileged ones now. And we need to recognise this, and work for true equality and fairness.
If a man is lucky, he only loses half.
what's this bullshit ?XD
Man, don't kid yourself.. women were and will always be privileged.. there is no equality and there will never be.
I can't care less about the bullshit story says, or people want to sell me.. women were ALWAYS protected and be left to the less "heavy and dangerous" job , since forever.
Women have always been the privileged ones in society from the beginning of the human species. The idiots in the sixties just thought that women's priviledges and social protections were 'oppression' and decided to destroy them.
"At that point, all I knew of the 'Men's Rights Movement' was from what I read online." That's the actual problem that needs to be solved. You blindly believed something you read online, and instead of trying to find facts, you relied on your feelings. How good of a "documentary filmmaker" could you actually be if you don't bother to actually find facts?
I agree that mindset is a problem but she did bother to find the facts. She also had the intellectual integrity to report them honestly to the world.
@@howhardcanitbe3333 Not when she started. And not in her earlier documentaries.
When I was young, a few years before facebook, online discussion pages started popping up. I was part of that as a participant, admin and programmer. It was really interesting, in my country this space was steadily becoming more right wing. We dropped our project multiple times and started a new page because the user base had become to right wing for us. One of our guests, a student, even became famous as the left-winger who talks to the far right. It was an old right wing guy who talked him out of suicide after that.
Today I think very different about that era than I did back then. Tl;dr: I think we should celebrate growth instead of pointing out past mistakes.
@@justachannel8600 Before Sir Tim invented the World Wide Web, there were message boards and newsgroups. This has been going on ever since the invention of the 300-baud modem.
@@howhardcanitbe3333 she found them after years of people showing it and her ignoring it wake up
when you go out with the mindset that you're going to meet "the enemy" that's all you'll ever see
Well done. Very moving. I applaud your courage, and your ability to question your own beliefs. You are a blessing.
Well stated. It does take a lot for people to question their own beliefs. You see it with people refusing to believe their favorite candidate lost or believe school shootings are some sort of hoax because it might make them think more guns are always good. If reality interferes with one's beliefs, they often deny reality.
Hah....big surprise, she said it correctly, "I wasn't really listening".
And in order to finally hear it, she had to re-listen to it AND transcribe it. How many women do that with what they hear from ANY men in their lives? NONE!
The media and group think!. That is the key point in this highly pertinent talk. It is pervasive and destructive on many fronts.
and it's never going to change
What men desire, in order of importance: Respect, gratitude, recognition and love.
What men actually get: False accusations, demonization, reamed in divorce, reamed in child custody and conditional/transactional love.
But as a man, we are expected to be quiet and shoulder through, or we are judged to weak. Complaining or pointing out injustices that we have endured is ultimate sin a man can commit.
What matters is this: Women are getting what they want: insanity. While we men are winning the war against insanity.
It's nice to find that a woman can, eventually, see reason, even if they have to make a whole documentary on the subject to do it.
It is also infuriating to know that it is a drop of fresh water in the ocean. That anyone could experience what she had and not end Anti-Feminist is maddening, she looked the villains in the eye and thought "I have to give them the benefit of the doubt".
Thank for putting this out there Much love!
2 ears 1 mouth quote is clearly old. Now it’s more men got 2 ears to listen and a mouth they are not allowed to open. And women got one mouth that won’t shut up, and ears they refuse to use.
The reason for her former way of thinking and the way of thinking for most people today is because most if them have a divided/unbalanced/dualistic mindset which leads people to think and imagine things in a "us vs them", "me vs everyone else" type of thinking wich also leads to believing and seeing everything in a zero sum way. Basically if your not helping "us/me" then your helping "them/everyone else".
This is also due to a lack of understanding or straight up willfull ignorance of Objective Morality leading to basing right and wrong on their personal feeling and idiologies. A moral and intelligent person wouldn't care whether the victim of a crime or injustice was of a specific gender, they would only care who was the victimizer (the immoral one) and who was the victim (the one in the right).
When the talk got to the response of feminists after the screening my mind rapidly went to thoughts about the attacks on J K Rowling by the activist trans community that, wilfully, ignored what she was saying in defence of safe spaces for women and turned it into a meme that she was attacking the trans community. They had an agenda to push and she was a useful tool for that in their eyes.
It's all pushed by the far left extremists, the media, etc. It wrecks families or just stops families from happening all together.
What a shame it took this person until the age of almost 30, to understand that everyone's life is nuanced and complex. That it's not a competition.
Movements and activism are seldom tempered with wisdom and compassion.
I think it has a lot to do with how we are taught to learn; having critical thinking, not rooted in emotion, not to be gullible in either your belief or disbelief of something.
She was a useful idiot. Then she learned a hard lesson. Furthermore, often those with privilege don't see it. But she chose to "do the work." And she became a better person.
You know....I think one of the saddest ironies is that men often get into trouble not because we hate women, but because we love them. It screws us up in the head sometimes. I know what it's like to be falsely accused of doing or intending harm to a woman. It's not an easy thing to face. I appreciate what she has to say. I hope that men and women can learn how to work together again. It would be great. We need each other.
It is so hard for women to point the finger of blame at themselves- but a few learn to and so are enlightened.
My god dam ex ruined my life and got away with it, physically and emotionally destroyed me over 4 years, I almost ended my life because of her, and she phoned police when I tried to beg her to stay with me and get me done for stalking with fear of violence, that was dropped because there was no evidence other than me asking her to stay, she then ruined me work life, and eny chance of dating, posted I was controlling manipulating, abusive, and so on.
When I tried to move on and met someone she ruined that as well. I can't be happy anymore because of this woman, all because I spoke to her poorly one day. I feel like my life is over because of her, and yet nothing can be done to stop her! I hate my life and hate this society that allows this to happen. Everyone always thinks the woman is the victim!
All this because I just wanted more time with her during the relationship! I loved her immensely and did anything she asked, I adored this woman and she ruined my life for it! Thank you, Cherie!
I hope you are happy with your new guy, while I'm sitting wondering why she did this!
She gave you freedom. It takes a minute to understand this. I promise you, the moment will come when you realize the prison your ex kept you in. Time is on your side my friend. Men age like wine, women age like milk...............
@johannesswillery7855 Thank you for your reply, she was 9 years older than me and I do believe a massive part was the age gap and insecurities associated with it, the comments about me eventually running off with someone younger got old fast! You made me laugh with your replay, and I thank you for this!
Thank you for making these issues more commonly known and being willing to listen to your inner voice.
If we apply this technique to everything, race, gender, the world would be a better place. Nobody's completely right? Nobody's completely wrong. Everybody is misunderstood
About time I hope more women wake up to how good you have it. Wants and needs are 2 very different things
Very good video indeed. You struck an emotional note in me and you're correct.
But you need to truly understand.......nobody cares and no one ever will.
Each and every man is truly alone in their plight.
Thank you for your opinion but it will never get better for men. We will always carry this burden.
Until Jesus Christ returns. Then justice will be done for everyone.
Men have rights?
Since when?
I've never felt like I had any rights when dealing with women!
Very good video. I listened to it all the way to the end and thought there were some very good points made about all the sad statistics men have to deal with in their lives.
I subscribed to the channel and look forward to the next video.
Always listen actively to both sides of the story, it will help clarify things.
I agree, but Politically Correct AGITATORS think that they have all the answers, and take any challenge or disagreement as a personal threat.
Well, it's been a while since this came out. All her feminist funders refused to back the documentary at the start. It ran by crowdfunding, probably right wing free speech contributions.
And it is still a very niche documentary. I have found you can now use the talking points mostly without getting piled on. So maybe the dial has moved a bit.
This is a classic, and it will be held up as a milestone in gender politics in future generations. Stick around for 20 or 30 years, and you'll see. We are way ahead of our time.
And yet this platform will delete the comments frequently.
@@prschusterwith every argument, you must have some established and proven axioms to build from as a foundation. Although it took her a long time to finally realize them, putting them into a documentary and making this TED talk will slowly but surely give men a platform to combat rampant misandry. Probably on the time scale of 20-30 years as you list.
I have always been semi-solitary but have always loved women. I have 4 sisters and a great Mom, all of whom I love. I had a great run from 17 - 25 where I dated a lot but then moved for a job. I met another woman at 34 and she got pregnant and we married and I have my lovely daughter. My wife and I divorced very amicably but I have chosen to go back to my solitary life. I prefer it as women today aren’t like they used to be. They have all the advantages in society. They’re really cruel. That’s somewhat due to their own insecurities displaced on men. I did what society dictated - get married, have kids, etc., and I now I live happily alone. I at least I have my daughter who thankfully doesn’t have any female trait I found off putting. I applaud this host for having an open mind.
7:40 - When I was a young intern at the University of Southern California's Los Angeles County Hospital, we could expect to see fourteen-suicides per week (two-per-day). Of those fourteen suicides: seventy-eight percent were men and twenty-two percent were women. Ninety-seven percent of the men were "successful in committing suicide", while only five-percent of the women were "successful in committing suicide". In summation: Women try to commit suicide, while men who commit suicide, die"; from which the attending physicians developed this axiom: "Women try, while men die".
Listen carefully men. Even when doing a documentary on a subject, interviewing 40 men for 100 hours it still wasn't until she sat to transcribe the hours of information that she actually heard what they were saying.
By her own testimony. We have a problem, men are working out solutions but most accept that agreeing with women on the truth and convincing women that we are not evil is not a solution because it is not going to happen, they cannot hear us. Accept it's broken, accept it's not getting fixed and work with the problem. That's what we do best. Every generation has its tragedies but we are going to be ok.
yea b/c men of this generation and on are just exploring bio tech to out right replace holes lol why fix what does not want to be fix when you can create what is needed and work on it as needed
"We have met the enemy, and he is us." Pogo (Walt Kelly).
Thank you very much for this message. I can’t help but believe that part of the problem with not listening is that we react out of our own woundedness. I think that we all just want to be loved and respected. I don’t want to be anyone’s enemy, or to be hated. As a man, it pains me that we are treated as the dumb blondes of today’s society. I know that there will be times if I speak up about what I believe, or have experienced, a bullseye has just been painted on my back. I would like to be heard, also.
Modern society reveals ancient wisdom we have forgotten, slowly being re-learned.
"Give women freedom and society collapses. It's inevitable"
Maybe the coldness of women has resulted in the appearance if cyborgs/robots etc ... out of the desperation of men to have a good relationship with a being of the opposite gender ...
Thank you , great video. ❤❤❤
I'm a 64 year old man and I have called myself a feminist since university. I spent 20 years in the Canadian Navy and saw and celebrated the advent of women in combat roles and the beginnings of admitting that sexual assault was swept under the rug for far too long (this is still rolling out now, decades later). When I started out in life men still held a majority of all professional positions,and I saw that was wrong, because women are just as smart and capable.
But feminism hasn't got everything right. My marriage of nearly four decades is coming apart due to a lack of intimacy, and while I'm beginning to see the web of personal baggage that is involved (and that 'blame', if that's even a useful term, is of course shared), feminism has played a role in this too.
The marriage became clinically sexless for more than the last two decades,but I held on, hoping it would get better. When I started what I now see was a last-ditch effort to save us, I was told that having intimacy needs, expecting or even wanting sex as a man was simply supporting the patriarchy. Anti-feminist thought and action. I was out dated.
The process had made me take a look at feminism and gender relations in the wider world. And things are awry, as this talk illustrates so well.
So the pendulum has swung beyond the goal here, and I'm hesitant to identify with the label "feminist" now. I think a humanist, equitable approach makes much more sense.
Thanks for this.
Oh, man... And she sweared You the love? It's long gone.
Wow, nothing is more powerful than a self reflecting person.
It brought me to tears. We all need to think and reflect more.
We will keep dying because no one is listening.
A woman calling men her enemy did she not have a loving father.
This sort of information is never too late to open up and discuss.
One generation, two generations have been horribly changed because of these sort of damaging mindsets.
Speaking truth and sharing your experience makes a difference.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Had this video just been called MEN ARE THE ENEMY, a lot of female viewers would have clicked on it but unfortunately most (not all) would have left the minute they realized what the topic was really about.