Lies, Broken Promises and The Death of Google Stadia | Asmongold Reacts
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The problem is that, instead of attempting to create a product that genuinely benefits customers, big corporations only uses these new tech to see how much they could or potentially could exploit customers, and it is also these greed that made them to push out the product as quickly as possible, which ended up only ever able to have something as incomplete and half-baked like Stadia.
geforce now seems fine to me
@@killuad0 didn't geforce was squashed by other megacorps, because it ACTUALLY worked? :D
@@Bodwaizer yep, they said "we need to choose where our games will be available" BUT GEFORCE NOW FREAKING USE GAMES THAT WE BOUGHT ON LAUNCHERS
that's how capitalism works.
exploit both your employees and customers to make as much profit as possible and maximize your profits.
@@kingofchris
i didnt say "works for" i said "works".
that's the modus operandi of all capitalists.
they try to exploit their employees and customers as much as they can....and they try to maximize profits as much as they can. sometimes those attempts fail miserably.
but even with this huge failure there's A LOT of sheep willing to give them money for something that costs zero additional resources to duplicate. so in the long run they win.
Google stadia expected everyone to have south Korea level internet in a country where it's oligopolized by 3 companies to make service as shitty as possible with the highest prices possible
look at my banner hector
It's not about speed, it's about latency.
@@la7era1u54 it also had the best enviorment possible to succeed. A pandemic where everyone is stuck indoors and gets new hobbies and it still failed
@Kasul the Casual Try coming to the caribbean or south america, then your opinion on the matter will change. Europe has a better internet connection than the US and the US is WAY better than third world countries internet.(Unless you go to Chile or Uruguay who are the exceptions in latinoamerica)
Now imagine ppl living in south America.
Funny how he repeated like 20 times that the tech is not yet there, meanwhile nvidia has had cloud gaming for years now and is running just fine. Wtf bro
I have Xbox game pass which gives you cloud gaming, my Internets also not even very good. They didn't even advertise it initially as a cloud gaming service but playing games on my phone by connecting my controller via Bluetooth works surprisingly well. Nobodys going to buy stadia if you can just use your phone and buy an Xbox controller and game pass and you can play the whole library.
Working at one of Stadia competitors, we had a clock on guy's desk counting down the death of Stadia. It ended up being not too far off I think. We knew some info about their back end and combine that with their business practices and strategy and knew it was an eventuality.
Did he replace it with a clock counting down the death of Amazon Luna? 😂😅
@Abby nah thats was dead on arrival lol
@@abby2k1Luna is a good service
My uncle works for Nintendo.
@@09ziyad i have no idea why you think it's unlikely that they work for a competitor, or think it's comparable to a kid saying he has an uncle at nintendy
People don't understand that Stadia fundamentially failed, because they didn't developed games from the ground up.
Currently you have your latency between clients and server and the streaming latency. If you just play on your pc you only have the latency between your client and the server.
If they developed a new game from the ground up they could of said that 1 PHYSICAL server(or VM) is responsible for everything including RENDERING the game for every client in that session (like 10 people in overwatch ) AND saving your items etc. This way you have basically "zero latency" on the server side and then you add the latency with the streaming.
None of our engines or frameworks were designed to do that so you pretty much have to start from zero. It can be done with insane amount of money and years of development.
Have you even tried Geforce Now or XCloud?
@@Servidor_Publico_do_Ancapistao Yes
Most of the times I agree with Asmon, but this case I am so annoyed with him. The idea is great and works well, I played Cyberpunk 2077 on Geforce now it had 0 latency and no lag issues... The problem with stadia was that you had to buy it and you were also forced to buy games on stadia instead freely playing the games you already own.
Cloud gaming already works with xbox cloud and geforce now.
Google stadia was doomed to fail
hindsight harold
@@repghost9481 No, every actual user knew it was doomed to fail. Don't need hindsight when it's written on the wall.
Everything Google touches turns to crap just look at RUclips it was so much better before Google.
Damn, if only you were there. Where was your huge business brain when they needed you?
@@Bobrystoteles :tf; mad?
Anyone with any sense knew Stadia was going to die immediately upon its announcement.
I for some strange reason just had a dream where Asmon was riding a Mountain bike down the street near my house, Which is weird because I have not watched Asmon in like Months but had to watch a vid after that lol. He was dressed in a hobo coat and a beanie and I was like oh Hi Asmon and he just waved and kept going. Like WTF kinda Dream is that.
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Lol as if asmongold could ride a bike
Sounds introspective...talk to your therapist.
@@yoremothra9838n what way? It’s simply he’s subconscious places people he is familiar with in a scenario, a therapist would be a waste of money
@@yoremothra9838 wdym "your therapist" you think everyone has a personal therapist? Sorry to tell you but not everyone lives like you
GVMERS does a lot of good games videos. Asmon should definitely check out more of them.
I had the same thoughts as he did. Stadia, inevitable, but ahead of its time -- and not in a good way. As in, the technology isn't good enough yet and that killed the product.
A triple a title used to mean it had a lot of support and funding and would be able to try new cutting edge features. It used to mean they could make bigger promises that would usually be kept. It used to just mean this game is has the support of the biggest in the industry behind it and that used to mean it's probably a safe investment. Now however it technically means the same definition but in practice not at all. Now it's no garentee at all that it will have full support and funding. In fact a smaller studio will often have a lot more effort and passion. The promise of quality and support is no more. If anything it's more likely to be released incomplete and may or may not be fixed after. It means lots of people need to be paid and a delay is not an option. At least a smaller studio can get more funding and make it go further. A big company a few million might buy another week or so.. if anything a triple a title is now more of a warning than a promise. Smaller studios seem to have more passion, connection to the consumer and pride in their work. Instead of a huge list of people there's only a few to blame so they feel more personal responsibility behind the quality of it. Triple a title is more likely to fuck you over and move on with it. A smaller one feels more pressure to provide what's promised. They're not big enough to fail like that. They can't just eat that loss. I have more confidence in a smaller studio than a triple a.. and I think a big part of the problem is now the people in charge are too big and rich to understand what an average person wants. And they're too confident in themselves to believe a millionaire isn't in touch with an average consumer. They actually do care about 70 bucks it's a big investment for something that's supposed to bring you joy and entertainment for a decent amount of time. They think because they have more money than you they're obviously smarter and know better about everything..
I already miss Stadia. It always worked pretty well for me. Didn't have any resolution or tearing issues. There was a bit of input latency, but it was never too bad to play most of the "couch" games i would play. Still it never would have replaced my PC or Console.
I think it really shows Google's misunderstanding of the business side of gaming that they cut the game development first. If things were looking bad from the get go, they could have pressed on with game development, and when Stadia failed, move those games to other services to try and recoup some money after Stadia's and the Dev studio's closures. If the games did well enough, they could have come back to the idea of keeping a foot in the game development side of the industry, so that when the tech reaches the point that a service like Stadia is more possible and seamless, they'd have a catalog of their own games to provide. Really shows that while the people at Stadia they brought in might've known their way around this business, Google had no fuckin clue
I exclusively play on Cloud gaming as I have a Mac and It works perfectly, I play siege on xcloud and I have no issue aside from the occasional lag spike. Ping wise it’s sub 20ms for me.
Geforce I think has the better tech currently, but stadia was also very good it’s just they had a very very limited amount of games most of which weren’t very good.
The Issue isn't the tech. The Tech is here.
I agree , been playing geforce now and have less then 20 ping most days , Asmons main problem is that he sees everything from a multiplayer perspective , but the majority of people playing games prefer and play single player games not multiplayers , especially as they get older and have less time.
@@RelvazPvP Yeah, the main problem with cloud gaming right now is just the options of games. But if there's nothing I want to play I just cancel the subscription until there is.
Stadia really should have done a case study on the "on live" tech which showed these challenges clearly and tech has not reached anywhere near a point where those same streaming weaknesses are fixed. It's a really public case study on why streaming gaming has challenges, regardless of the money backing it.
look at my banner hector
As a dev the best thing about Stadia was I got royalty money from Google for just having our game on the service. Some people at work thought the idea of Stadia was cool but no one had any faith Google wouldn't kill the platform after a year or two.
Tech is fine, Geforce Now works perfectly well, here on European internet. The main issue was the greedy monetization model. They wanted you to pay $60 again for games that were easily discounted to $10 by then.
I got one of those stadia bundles super cheap a while back and honestly it was pretty good for what I got it for. I got to have a relatively similar console experience without having to spend 300 bucks and I could play shit on the go if I wanted.
Sucks that it got canned, but it’s obvious it wasn’t working for a ridiculous majority.
the problem is that the upper management had no idea what they're doing.
Wdym without having to spend 300 bucks when u need to buy games at full price
I remember tweeting about it being terrible and their developers responded with toxic insults. It was dead on arrival and im glad the developers have this failure on their shoulders.
1:15 false. The tech was there but it was all hindered by the bussinessmodel. 70 dollar per game, cloud only, and subscription for the controller basically killed it.
And also the horrible bloated deals for publishers didnt help either
Not gonna lie from the moment they announced Google Stadia, I predicted its gonna flop and I was right lol. The idea is good but I think its far too soon.
I'm still playing Skyrim...
I never touched Stadia because Google gives up on everything. And yup they did with Stadia just like everything else.
I don't know what asmon talks about, saying the tech was not ready. Whenever I played it. The quality was amazing. The problem was not enough people made the move, because of lack of games. People wanted to keep their steam library. It had only a handful of new games. But the games it had worked. For example all the trouble people had with cyberpunk 2077, i never experienced. Friends who used it also enjoyed it. Especially if you are a person does does not want to invest a lot of money into gaming equipment. In that sense it was considerably cheap. I think they should have looked at epic games launcher and how they where trying to compete with steam.
Well I watch the video about stadia last day and I think they don't say the main reason that Stadia fails, is idiotic pricing and subscriptions plans.
I've been a huge fan of GVMERS for several years. Great content
Props to the early "more money than sense" adopters amongst us. They're the guys/gals who sift through the shit, so we can then buy the successful products risk-free and at a cheaper price point at a later date. Though, them arguing that everything is gonna be the next big thing also provides free comedy. I remember being told I'd be one of the few folk in the UK without a 3D TV a good few years ago ... lol. Then there was those massive LP sized disc type dvd's. Was told i was crazy not to have one. A year or 2 later, I went out and bought a dvd player.
When was xcloud released? Cause I’m pretty sure that has been going well for them, they have already partnered with Samsung to have gamepass on their tv
The low latencies required for Stadia to compete with the traditional client/server model also require cooperation with ISPs to prioritize traffic for this service on the public internet. It will happen eventually.
27:50 I'm gonna be honest and say Edge is the most underrated and underappreciated browser to exist. I use Edge for University school work and Opera GX for entertainment, browsing, everything else. And Edge on almost all fronts is literally just better. I'm questioning why I even still use Opera GX. Edge is fast as hell and very snappy. You click the icon to open it and it's open with whatever tab you had open last and the webpage fully loaded in the blink of an eye. I feel like the browser isn't gaining traction based on it's meme status as "bad". Also, most people use Chrome etc. because it was definitely the BEST browser for a long while, and using anything else was just "weird".
Google actually gave me a free Stadia device and controller, so I gave it a shot. What really turned me off personally was having to buy my games all over again. I got free games every month, but they were hardly ever the games I wanted to play. Also, getting that device out of sleep mode was strangely over-complicated; like, REALLY overly complicated. It's truly sad, because I am one of the people who actually have an internet connection fast enough to play this stuff. Huge disappointment.
I pressed the stadia button on the controller and it woke up
I always assumed that the Stadia would fall apart at the seams. It’s too bad though because it was really hyped up and seemed like a game changer.
@@joncarter3761 you just learn that yesterday?
So it would seam.
@@pneuma8819 lmao I see what happened there. I just got ratiod by a typo
@@kadenchesley515 sorry, couldnt resist :)
@@pneuma8819 I’m going to blame autocorrect to avoid looking illiterate 😂
Tbh I think the issue wasn't necessarily the latency. If you're playing competitive, fast-paced online games which require low latency and fast reactions, a Cloud based platform is never going to offer you the optimal experience. And anecdotal evidence from users would suggest that Stadia's cloud gaming infrastructure was actually very robust and offered a best-in-class cloud gaming experience.
The issue was the business model and not knowing who it's target audience was. Games purchased on Stadia were LOCKED to Stadia. If you're an existing gamer, that's unacceptable. I have hundreds of PC games across Steam, Xbox, Epic etc. I can play them on any PC (and on the go through Nvidia's streaming service). Why the hell would I want to start buying games that I can ONLY play streamed through Stadia? It makes no sense and would be a huge risk & waste of money. And if you're a casual gamer....what would attract you to Stadia over just getting a GamePass ultimate subscription?
It was doomed to failure from the beginning.
Anything new that Google makes is doomed to fail
I finished Cyberpunk, Kena, Metro Exodus and some other games via GeForce Now and it was a very good experience. At least for single-player games I think the tech is here already.
Stadia had other problems that drove it into the grave, it's wrong to say "it failed because Cloud Gaming is technically not possible yet" since Nvidia already proofs otherwise.
We do have the tech for it , Ge force now is going pretty strong (atleast in the single player market) and if/when people get better net via things like starlink itll be even better
Thats the problem with these MBAs and CEOs, they have the skill to run massive companies, but lack most of the time the skills to understand what they are managing
For the sacred heavens, I hope that Asmon react to more GVMERS content in the future. They are best producers of Video Game Documentaries in RUclips at this moment.
@@mix1ro yeah it's alright his voice sounds like an AI tho
look at my banner hector
NoClip has them beaten by hundreds of miles.
Is use GeForce Now almost every day and it's flawless I play Lost Ark at max settings from my crappy 150 dollar tablet with no issues. What a time to be alive
Same. GeForce Now is really good. I played through the entirety of Witcher 3 + DLCs twice on my 10 year old laptop
@@bomber9912 I was be super skeptical (understandably so) but after it ran perfectly on my phone, my tune changed lol
I'm picking up a Shield TV Plus next week. You should check it out it's Nvidia's take on a streaming console and it rips
@@garyburginjr1366 thx for the suggestion, gonna take a look at it
I use Google products constantly and the one fact I can tell you is not to expect a project of theirs to be anything more than an experiment. Ever. Remember Google plus? Google wave? Google glass? Even Google my business became integrated into maps. Etc etc etc.
The IT industry goes through cycles between Thick Clients (where everything, or mostly everything is ran locally an a beefy end-user PC) to Thin Client (where things are ran on a beefy server or sever farm, that dumb terminals or light-weight PC access). The cycles and switch are slow and happen over decades. It's just not there yet for gaming.
Technology was not a problem. Monetization was. You have to buy a platform (controller), a subscription and every single game on top of that, which you cannot play on any other platform. It was not only risky for Google but also a gamble for consumers. "Do I want to risk spending 100 dollars first month to play on a system that may not even last a year?". This is what killed Stadia. Nvidia is doing fine with their version. Check out Geforce Now
I remember a couple years ago I was having a debate with someone about how stadia would fail and that Google had a track record for killing projects that have even a hiccup. He was adamant that stadia would be the future 😂
I had the exact same experience. People who love hype cycles but never understand the actual product. Did your friend come round after Stadia closed down and give you credit for being right in the end?
@@conradicalized Nah, he said “they were too ahead of their time” and that “people just didn’t understand it” 😂
@@thizlam4810 ;) of course of course, I had the same experience lmao
Valhalla was a sheetshow. The whole plot revolves around a split personality of a man trapped in a womans body.
That game is literally not for 98% of us
To be fair even if google was reverse engineering the problem no one was having I think it’s still important to make bigger advancements later on. 5:16
I have used stadia for quite a while and I would like disagree with Asmon that lag and glitches were the main issues. Yes I got those sometimes, but that is more to blame on the inconsistent network of my ISP than on the tech that google employed. The main concern from a consumer perspective were the costs, that have to buy games at full prices, instead of actually have a subscription like with the other streaming platforms. Otherwise the catalogue of games was far too limited, to really be competitive with the consoles (not to mention a PC). My point is, technologically we are already there, cloud gaming is entirely possible, but needs to be managed better from the business side.
THANK YOU! The only reason I unsubbed from stadia is the limited choice. The games on the subscription were pretty mediocre and the buyable games had like 5 good titles at max. The service worked seemless for me.
Stadia: We’re one year ahead of Microsoft in streaming technology & 20 years behind on everything else.
What could go wrong?
I find it a bit odd no one talks about the horrible business model stadia tried to implement, paying full price for basically a rental of mostly "older" games.
love the commentary covering diff topics' so chill to deep clean the house to!
ESO broke it's server stability to pick up a contract with stadia. They have never fixed this and game performance in endgame content is abysmal.
One of the few times Asmon was off base.
Tech is 90% there, I can have a decent experience streaming on GeForce or Game Pass and I live in Australia.
Latency is good enough, not for professional multiplayer twitchy shooters sure.
But for a reasonable subscription price, I’d play many games through it if I didn’t have a very beefy pc.
The business model of having to rebuy games, small library and lack of crossplay meant I never even tried Stadia.
Performance was an issue, but the bigger issues were the business model, and lack of a key audience. It was solving a problem that doesn't really exist, and there are cheaper products on the market that are better. The killer was that you had to buy games full price as well as subscribe to the service, bloody robbery.
While I agree that a game like dark souls on cloud based gaming would be terrible. Having played 'GTA5 online' on xbox ultimate cloud streaming (when it was still on the game pass), it was incredible. Playing on my phone, free roaming, being able to micro manage my DLC businesses etc was great. So cloud streaming has potential and works fine for some games, just not all.
As someone who played on stadia as my main source of gaming for a couple years I have some stuff to add. It wotked really well for me, in Idaho. I'm unsure how internet in idaho compares to the rest of the US but the only time I had issues was when I was on wifi, buying my own personal route fixed all wifi related issues I had, in and out of stadia. I was able to complete Sekiro on stadia, with no latency issues that were actually noticeable. I could compete in rainbow 6 siege against pc players limited only by my own game sense and skill. I saw repeatedly throughout stadias life span a ton of fuck ups but the tech worked astonishingly well, but everyone reviewing it only had negative things to say, and were totally misinformed on the pricing model, claiming you had to subscribe AND buy the games, which you didnt need the subscription at all. The sub gave a ton of games of varying quality, and special discounts, like playstation offers with ps plus. It was crazy to be able to play rainbow 6, sekiro, and destiny 2 on my phone while on lunch break at work or my crappy laptop and tv at home. That being said, once I switched jobs close enough to home that I could go home on my lunch, I never needed to play on my phone so i haven't used Stadia in a year now, instead I got a steam deck, a switch, and a PS5 which are all "better" but without Stadia i wouldnt have been able to play games as much as a new dad. Sad to see it go. Got a fat refund from google for all my purchaces though.
The problem with Stadia is that it launched worse than other services that already did what it set it out to do but better, and shortly after launch it got much much worse when Xbox launched a better service as an add on to an already popular and affordable product. Stadia wasn't even as good as a few bonus to Xbox game pass and still made you buy all the games full price while having worse latency.
Cloud gaming will happen your right, I actually use the gamepass cloud streaming service all the time. Even though I could download the game on my Xbox it's just easier to check out a game via cloud then if it's enjoyable I download it.
I tried Stadia when it was alive, and played Hitman. It was nearly playable but a twitch inducing experience with the slight lag and down scaling resolutions.
Just shows you how hard the AAA gaming industry is to break in . Google was definitely making a moat but it was too early.
Also doesn't most Americans have data cap that the ISP throttle?
To comment on what Asmon said about the Riot MMO...the hype isn't just "riot is making an MMO". The hype is built around the fact that it's an MMO about their "main" IP, they picked up Ghostcrawler, who worked on WoW during it's peak time, and they have a world with a huge story that's already built. So they don't need to put as much work into the stories, because they have much of them built. They will obviously expand, but there's a lot of stuff already in place. But when you have an industry veteran who worked on a game during it's peak as the biggest MMO to ever ever exist, and then you as a studio have a record of dropping games that are considered top of their genre...THAT is why people are excited about Riot dropping an MMO.
I gotta agree with the big theme going on here. That game companies not run by gamers fall apart. It's pretty simple to put together: Gamers make games for gamers, money hungry suits make games for suckers and it shows in the design.
with the advancements in A.I it's hard to predict things like this, because i could easily see an A.I being capable of compressing a signal to the point where the delay is almost the same as if you were playing on your PC. especially if we continue to see faster internet.
GVMERS is an awesome channel that have a lot of gaming documentary. im happy that it manage to get into Asmongold reaction radar. i pray more ppl would subs to it and enjoy the content.
There's never going to be "the technology" for Stadia. Latency is a physics issue at this point, not just a technological one. The speed at which data can physically travel from one point to another is insurmountable. And no, commenters, quantum computers do not do what you think they do.
Anyone remember OnLive? I used it for a while when my PC was shit but I had a good internet connection. I had like a 10 year old Dell desktop at the time. One of the promotions they ran let me get full games for free for each new account so I had a handful of accounts. The games I remember playing on it are Homefront and Assassins' Creed Brotherhood.
I knew stadia was dying when they offered me the $100 controller for free because I’ve been a day 1 RUclips premium user. They were literally giving them away at that point.
This guys voice is unbelievablely good, he was born for vo
You're right that we're not ready for it yet. PlayStation tried doing PlayStation Now, which, to me, was a disaster! They were charging me $20 per month and it was horrible. If you didn't live close to a server you suffered a good amount of latency in your gameplay, not to mention sometimes you would get a graphic pixelation problem. There were times that my button presses were not registering for at least a half a second, up to 1 second, so I had to recalibrate how I played, just to try and get things correct. Then you had the issue of waiting in queue to even play because they just didn't have enough servers, so there were months where I was paying but never got to use it. When I called PlayStation about it they tried telling me to play at night, when everybody goes to bed. I work at 6:00 a.m., so that wasn't going to cut it for me. When I finally did play at night, on my day off, I didn't see any difference in the performance. I eventually canceled my service and I'm glad I did because the service died anyway. I wish they would give me my money back for the entire time, but I know I'll never see it again. I think the only way something like this could work is if the entire world, including rural locations, used fiber optic internet all across the board, and there's enough servers to accommodate everybody, without cues, or latency.
We do have the tech tho geforce now works amazingly well
@@bobbob-cd9yl I don't disagree. However, not a lot of people use it, which I think is a contributor to the smooth running of it. I fear that when more people flock to it, like Google tried to get people to do with their's, it will probably start running horrible, by comparison.
I think their tech was pretty nice. What killed it was the terrible business model and Google’s lack of any first party exclusives. Expecting people to buy full price game which are at the mercy of Google flipping the switch at any time, is stupid. If it was a game pass like service, I would definitely have been interested.
Honestly the Technology itself wasn't really the issue for anything short of twitch shooters and fighters, latency was good enough that unless you were switching between local and remoote, you'd adjust in
Despite all these things Stadia is the best gaming deal i have made. I was refunded the cost for the games and hardware and the publishers gave you the games for free on other platforms. The controller is pretty dope. It was also pretty awesome playing cyberpunk 2077 with awesome latency in chrome on ancient school computers.
Hell I even got my stadia for free during a official event lol
It was the only platform that ran cyberpunk on release without major glitches or issues.
Was easy to fix ping issue or controller lag, use 5ghz with gigabit Wi-Fi within 10-15 feet of router and worked 90% flawlessly on my cheap 800$ HP laptop with no graphics card.
Cloud gaming will never make sense for classic gaming. The required datacenters and their maintenance would cost way too much. It would need to frequently get upgraded, too. At the same time, consoles and PC hardware are also getting better, and a device that can natively run games at the same visual quality and framerate will always be cheaper over time.
Sad part is that the technology hasn't changed for 20 years that we've had these services. They cannot ever work. There are too many hops between servers and users. The speed of light alone will make sure this will not happen unless the user and server are literally within the same city or municipality. The ISP's and counties should be fixing this and why would they?
The technology for cloud-gaming is already there. I'm using Shadow since 2019 and it works like a charm. The failure of Stadia is due to shitty conditions, like having to buy games exclusively for it and no access to your already established Steam-Account or other platforms. Shadow offers you a whole PC to use as you see fit like any other normal PC.
That's why Shadow is still around and Stadia died a quick unglorious death.
I'm still terrified of Streaming-Only games because that effectively kills any attempts at game preservation and ownership. Both already being somewhat at risk with digital only and games as a service
I thought Stadia may shine a light to the future of streaming service in gaming and mostly MMO game. Shocked when knowing it just fall down dead.
Seems it is too young to stand alone for now.
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GeForce Now has taken the reigns. Also their Shield TV is sick. It's basically stadia with a fair amount of onboard RAM and it's great.
I had Stadia for the past year and a half and really enjoyed it. I can't believe that they shuttered it, when it couldn't have been a massive cost to just keep operational and upgrade functionality over time. Hopefully, in another 10 years, tops we'll get an all-in-one digital solution that the technology is finally ready for from an infrastructure standpoint.
Stadia's draw is the idea of all your games being available on demand without needing the memory to hold them. Economic and convenient.
Stadia's flaw was not allowing people to transfer authentication keys for the games they already bought to the Stadia. The opposite.
I was gaming with one of the stadia developers right before it launched and then during the launch. He kept saying how amazing it was and everything and everybody kept pointing out that we don't have good internet and it wouldn't work for us but he insisted it would be great. He didn't talk about it much after release...
Its got the whole PBS documentary Vibe and voice 🤔
Stadia was just Google chasing trends as well as alot of mismanagement, i mean, they just wanted to cash in,thats really it.
Add to that the fact that most games on their service ran better on other platforms(and were old titles to boot) that u had to pay full price for and they only had a handfull of exclusives its no wonder it did't work.
And as usual, when something does't work for Google, it gets discarded.
I recently moved from sf. This is tech in a nutshell. The people who work at a lot of tech companies are incredibly out of touch with normal people. I have traveled and lived all over the world and sf stands out in the sense that the general public especially those in leadership and the wealthy are just out of touch with regular people that they exist in a separate reality. It’s funny to watch those involved in these failed projects struggle to understand why the masses they look down on won’t just gobble up their product.
Feels bad for early stadia adopters. I stream games to my steam deck all the time, and it works good👍.
I'm sorry to hear that
I played sekiro on stadia flawlessly. couldn't tell any difference between it and the series x in terms of latency and that was on a 100 Mbps connection.
10:30 the question i asked since it came out, also why is an Assassin Creed game showing mercenaries and soldiers who have nothing to do with being an assassin and following a creed being the main characters?
I get it Ezio is no longer around but why are they trying super hard to make historical event to fit an assassin game, its like they are putting more value into making the game a museum of pass events then just making an Assassin's Creed game?
If SuckerPunch makes more games like that Ghost of Tsushima title, they will take the fans AC from Ubisoft.
They should've kept Desmin alive and make a modern Assassin's creed by now
Simple math says this was going to fail. Unless you completely restructure gameplay of video games to account for the delay you cant get around. Information cant travel faster then the speed of light so unless some one figures out worm holes for internet traffic it simply cant be done
Your stream did mention it but Geforce now does game streaming *extremely* well, with me operating between 10-15ms on my streams and inputs completely lagless. Only problem is they can't get enough games on board to allow them to stream.
To me Shadow PC is the best streaming thing I have tried. It is technically not game streaming, but PC stream which is used for people who don't have PC capable of playing high graphic / demanding games. I will say it still does have some lag, but it is the best that I have tried. If you are a competitive game player, probably still not good enough to be hardcore in it. For a casual player like me, I enjoy it.
Not having MMOs & confusing questions of who owns what where when you purchase a title game killed it for me. Delay and poor image quality was the other problem.
I've used Cloud Based computing to play games for over a year using Shadow, and I think that was a much better way to do it. I did it because there were games I couldn't play on my hardware at the time, but my internet was more or less good enough to stream it. But there was always issues playing things like Apex or things that require precision due to the delay, but otherwise it was really good. But the reason I think Shadow was better, was because it was JUST a PC. Though it is advertised as a gaming platform, it isn't like Stadia where you have to rebuy your games, you could login to Steam, Origin, Battlenet, Riot Games Client because it was all just a PC
@LA7ERA1U5 Yeah it's really just the Internet of the user that can be a limiting factor as it was for me. Overall the hardware is good and consistent, and the one time I used stadia (Played for free without paying sub either) it was good
Stadia was just too expensive. Paying every month and not getting a single free game for that was just bs. Now I have that useless controller :)
I used Stadia once. I also have a STABLE gigabit internet connection.
The Graphics were "Meh"
The framerates were "terrible"
The framedrops were "huge"
"The input latency was "annoying as hell"
The Image Quality was "Bullshit"
Stadia was a gigantic piece of shit and shouldn't have been invented for at least another 15 years.
if y'all are wondering (yes this is a bit out of context) instant gaming isn't a scam and has been around for quite a while lol, legit an insane site if u want game deals
I can tell you right now the biggest reason why Stadia failed, because I pre-ordered one with a 4K Chromecast and I tried a few games on it.
The games. They were selling streamed games for full retail prices. $60 for a streamed experience of Red Dead Redemption 2 (non-transferable, only playable on Stadia). Same with Tomb Raider and all the other titles mentioned in this video. $50-70 per title. And you don't even own the game, just the rights to stream it!
As a product trying to "lower the barrier to entry for gaming", the high prices made it immediately fail at its purpose.
Nvidia Now works great, Big part of EU has optic connection and Nvidia works great for any people with it.
Having long waiting times on Nvidia for free just says it all :)
Its less that we don't have the technology to make something like stadia work, its that we don't have the infrastructure. In the US at least internet in most of the country is heavily outdated and quality varies wildly from region to region, slowing everything down and making streaming games unreliable at best.
Google stadia failed for two reasons, first being the company's inability to manage relationships and its own project. Second being the fact that while they do have the technology to make it work, they failed to acknowledge that the majority of consumers would not have the money to support the required connectivity.
Don't you understand, Asmond? Phil Harrison DID have great news. By shutting down the gaming division and firing all of the devs, he got a massive bonus with part of the money he just saved Google.
I tried Stadia once during the pandemic cuz of shear boredom. I tried playing Destiny and was shocked how quickly I could start playing. The input lag however was very bad and thought it was my own internet or laptop being bad. If I was younger and in another country with very sparse internet services I would've loved Stadia despite the lag if it meant I could play these expensive games whenever I wanted.
If you don't think the technology is there yet check out how smooth GeForce Now is (and free and uses your Steam library), and know that it was like that before Stadia launched. We are there.
Worked great for me. The biggest issues were the number of titles and price of games and slow feature role out.