Broken Arrow Residential Fire 9/27/2021
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- At 13:37 on Monday, September 27, 2021 the Broken Arrow Fire Department was dispatched to a residential fire where firefighters from Engine 1, Engine 4, Engine 7, Ladder 6, Rescue 1, Brush Truck 6, Squad 3, Squad 7, FD113, FD211, and FD313 all responded to the scene and began their fire attack. BAFD did a phenomenal job this afternoon in some hot temps.
It looks like it's not only the arrow that is broken but the whole department
@Marc, completely agree. Terrible tactics.
What a fucking shambles. The whole crew need re-training and the so called chief should be fired.
Does anyone know who owns that House? Joe Hanby a Retired Fire Capitan from Tulsa. Joe was a lifelong member of the Tulsa Fire dept. I bet Joe wishes he was running that Show.. LOL
Right before I began recording he was starting his own fire attack with his garden hose 😂
@@bdcoley3 I live in Dallas. But I've known Hamby since High School and as far as I know, he went to the fire dept when he got out of Hale HS. But I went to a BETTER SCHOOL Rogers. LOL
How The fire started?
Impressive... I have seen major city departments push a fire like this to 2+ alarms and still take over an hour to knock down.
Great initial attack and good coordination between the interior and exterior crews.
Tulsa and Broken Arrow Fire take a lot of pride in getting knockdown in under an hour.
Are you serious?
@@BassistFF what are you seeing that went wrong?
Everything. 20 years on one of the busiest rigs in the US. First off, smoke says this is a smaller, vent-limited fire in the garage on arrival. Go through the front, cut the garage door, i dont care either way. Two saws doing two completely different cuts…no. Big no. And the officer should not be hands-on tools. Teepee cuts died in the 90s as well….pointless. L cut was decent, then water just got sprayed randomly. Use a TIC, and put water on the fire. I saw no TICs being used. Spraying continued randomly as smoke said it was rapidly intensifying. Helmets falling off, cutting a hole well after the fire is finally knocked….bad all the way around. This was a 200 gallon fire on arrival tops, and instead it got out of hand for too long. And no offense, anyone who says their speed of effort on arrival was acceptable is completely wrong. I dont want running, but I certainly dont want this casual BS. Move with a purpose. Fire goes as the first five minutes goes, and this was bad.
@@BassistFF Spot on, cut the door , make good use of your tic and knock the fire out.
I am no fire man, but this lookes like they took their sweet little time.
As a citizen I would like to see more urgency.
Sad.
As someone that was on scene and a fire engineering student they did it right. While it may seem like they’re moving slow they’re doing it for a methodical reason because as their getting lines set up and charged they’re doing a scene size-up and a 360° of the property, there were also a lot of combustibles inside the garage that they had to pull out and worry about.
They did it right. Brent was correct. Haste gets people killed. Why don't you go the fire science school, put on all the gear and a 45 lb air pack and rush into a burning building you've never been before full of combustibles, toxic fume and show us how great you are and if you live to fight your 2nd fire.
Be careful, Dirk. Even the mildest of comments or observations bring out the defensive attack dogs. 'show us how great you are and if you live to fight your 2nd fire.' Nice.
Too much TV viewing, where the firemen RUN into a burning building with no smoke and some small fires scattered around. They know exactly where the people are, then, the firemen spend 5-10 seconds forcing a door and help everyone out of the building. Most of the people are not coughing, or anything.
Very simple, very easy.
@@leightongalleries6057 Yeah, they are all "heros" .
How slow is how many errors...
This is a joke. Cut a hole in the door, stick the nozzle in and wet everything then pull the door down. Instead they opened the door completely and the nozzle man is not ready to flow water. I counted 26 seconds before the nozzle is opened. The strong wind feeds the fire and now you’ve got a bigger mess than when you you started. Nobody at the door is on air, what if it backdrafts? THEN they completely open the second door without a second hand line. Bad tactics and time management.
How about pushing the garage door opener button lol..
Many firefighters have been killed just using the opener to open the garage door. Once inside the opener fails and he door shuts behind them trapping them. Always remove the door so people don’t get trapped.
@@engineer5213 plus the open door blocks access to the ceiling
They should have immediately opened up the other garage door. That would have helped with the smoke and visibility. Total ignorance
How is it ignorant? I’m genuinely curious
that's what I was thinking.
they never opened the doors and the fire spread. Instead of having tea and then wandering into the house after desert, they could have opened the garage doors.
But I see this a lot in these videos.
Sometime these clowns pull up and it still takes five minutes more for the first dude to put some water on the fire. In those five minutes all is lost.
why do they drive around with a siren and lights when they slow walk it in the final stage ?
@@dirkbogarde7796 let me break it down for you guys. Fires need oxygen as a key ingredient to keep going and when the doors are closed it deprives the fire of that oxygen and if they just open the doors without putting some water on the fire or the doors first you will get a backdraft which will spread the fire beyond the garage and attic where it was contained. Doing so would also jeopardize the lives of the firefighters. That’s why they’re methodical about the attack and why they didn’t just open the doors.
You can’t do that…as soon as the door is opened, it opens a “flow path” for oxygen to enter. Cutting, opening, venting and water flow has to be timed to prevent something like this from happening. They ended up working way too hard on this fire.
@@bdcoley3 Go back and watch again. Don’t pay attention to fire, pay attention to the smoke. The smoke is the story. Once they open the big door (and don’t immediately put water on it), the smoke becomes heavier, darker and “charged”. This is not good. It means the unseen fire is now unchecked and ready to do some damage.
TYFYS BA
Third line should have charged before cutting the second door. And why the cutting crews don’t take the the time to cut the first door completely before going to attack mode. The dam door was in their way but they are very aggressive… got to give them credit for a good job.
I was wondering that too about the door.
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Glad that wasn’t my house I would of called another fire department, they don’t really care much about the house, look they are all sitting down, what after 20 mins of fighting fire come on, over paid dummies
That’s called rehab. It was around 93° the day of the fire and they can only go for a certain amount of time before needing rest
LMFAO! That's the best line I've heard in a long time, "call another fire department". OMG I'm dying laughing.
Not too likely a paid department. Best equipment in the world doesn't excuse lack of adeq.ate training. Just sayin'.
@@bdcoley3 What about the relief crew? One doesn't just quit fighting the fire...
@@edwardfry2594 so on scene you had E1, E4, E7, L6, RES 1, Squads 7 & 4 (ambulances), and Brush Truck 6, battalion chief, and numerous training officers due to the training center being a mile away. Each engine in BA runs 3-4 to a rig (if brush truck isn’t being utilized), 2 per squad. If I did my math right that’s 24 firefighters there to put water on the hot stuff. The air temp was running at around 93° so they had a solid a 10-12 guy’s rotating in and out of attack & rehab until the achieved knockdown. BAFD rarely goes interior unless it’s on a primary search or someone is trapped. Imo they did a a good job and have come a long way. They also didn’t completely stop fighting until knockdown was called