I’m glad to see that even if you don’t agree with FuhNaff, you’re still being respectful towards him. It’s frustrating to see some FNAF fans get mad and harass people over theories they dislike.
Agreed. I see too many people mock others for theorizing. It's possibly discouraging others from sharing their theories. This whole fandom has been built on theorizing. How are we going to figure anything out about the story if we don't throw out different possibilities.
there something sad and alarming when a video that do the most healthy theorycrafting method ever have to put multiples warning for the fans to not put down another theorycrafter because they discuss a theory. (being critical of a theory, while respecting the person who made said one.) but I think it's because content creators/fans don't seem to understand that, or mistook theorycrafting with putting their reputation on the lines. theorycrafring ARE trial and error, this is normal and healthy to make mistakes. because you then know what don't work. and I think as long as reputations will be mixed in the discution of a theory, it won't get better.
@@viewer6152i agree, plus i feel like lore usually gets massively rewritten and retconned randomly all the time so i don’t really understand why people hate on theories so hard. like i’ve been here since the first game and i remember all the crazy theories that have been accepted as fact through the years that have just been completely wrong. i don’t see why anyone gets in their feelings about theories like they have this one lmao
I hope Fuhnaff never stops his insane theories, even if some of them are borderline senseless, he thinks outside of the box and makes people think harder about often overlooked points. Especially his big SB theory, it threw me trough a loop of brainf*ck a few times
yeah it's honestly really fun to watch the stuff he comes up with even when it's insane. his SB theories got me back into the fandom, I had finally got burnt out since it had been like a year since SB launched at the time i think? his new outlooks made me excited about theorizing again even if i don't think all of them are true.
Like Matpat once said “I don’t always agree with the conclusions but I like the questions he asks.” Which rings pretty true for this theory. I get where he’s coming from but there are leaps in logic that just don’t weave together right
Yes, that's my favorite part that he likes to think outside the box and make us look more into the small overlooked things. Even if he's not quite right it can certainly lead us in the right direction just by taking a deep dive. I would be really disappointed if he decided to stop fnaf theories, at least while there's still story/lore to find and or put together.
Another really interesting "outside of the box" thing to take note is the mention of the robots being 20+ years old, despite the timeline of the first game being "1993", and 20 years ago at that point would be 73. The first games crew does not exist in 73, not even the spring animatronics as far as I know. This could have been the retcon Scott mentioned, but who knows.
I definitely don't agree that the person on the couch is Michael, if the orange character is Afton. It makes more sense if the person that ran away was Michael. This would be after Evan (the crying child) dies. I like your idea, though, because it continues the pattern from the other minigames: Afton's crimes, like you said. I think the name "later **that** night" is too significant to say it's just a random night. It has to relate to Charlie's murder, or the fruity maze girl's.
William never cared about Crying Child. If he did, he would've stopped the bite from happening or at least tell Michael that bullying is wrong. It doesn't make sense for William to have plenty of time to put cameras all over the house, yet somehow no time to find a proper babysitter.
@@asuperrandomguy8266 the simple answer is the pain the bullying causes. William's scientific philosophy is pain and fear allow the soul to be moved to another body. 'the spirit follows the flesh and the pain.' this means he's using the boy in his experiments and explains his Lacksadaisy attitude to parenting in Fnaf 4. He had an opportunity to save his son on the third night after helping a worker into a spring lock costume. He ignores the boy's presence. The cameras are to make sure he's suffering in a manner useful to William. William ONLY shows concern when the bullying kills the crying child BEFORE William's experiment is concluded which is why he uses Michael as an experiment in the main gameplay of fnaf 4. To teach him a lesson and to experiment with sorrow and guilt.
It wasn’t raining in the original part of the minigame for Midnight Motorist, only switched when you head into the secret part. The tracks still being visible despite the rain means they were fresh. No more than a couple hours old.
I feel like this is a valid interpretation of Midnight Motorist, my main issue is just. Why are we being shown it? Puppet minigame is important because puppet Fruity Maze is the first MCI victim, Susie (and is also a lot more of a background element in a minigame that would otherwise exist) Later That Night, under this theory, would just be a random murder since every other death we know of was at a restaurant. A murder that was never expanded on in a game that was mostly wrapping up loose ends otherwise. And this is a minigame specifically created as a secret bonus route when the MCI minigame was more so just a background element in a previously existing game. It's a weird higher level of effort for an incident we otherwise know nothing about and doesn't line up with any of William's usual MO
This. These are definitely things to consider and why I personally don’t really believe this theory. It’s a good one though! But there’s holes, but then again when aren’t there any holes right?
@@ScapeVEVO Foxy’s minigame shows specifically that the kids are away from the group and unhappy, that’s the repeating theme before the scare when he walks in on all the bodies. The children were killed in quick succession, not together- that’s part of what makes it imo the most unsettling- it was quick and efficient and so *recent*. From the murders we have stories for, Afton is shown use the kids’ isolation to his advantage. we see him take an opportunity with Charlie’s murder, we see it’s his strategy to lure Susie, and it’s the protocol he literally programs into Baby for her stomach hand shenanigans. As much as I hate the idea of Agony and Remnant the same way I hate midichlorians from Star Wars, I feel like much of the tragedy of FNAF’s victims is in their often incidental loneliness immediately before their murders.
@@sleepylmguy9968 that's kinda how i would see it in this circumstance. That it could take place at a restaurant still with the footprints (both sets) possibly leading to one of the Freddy's locations (or fredbears whichever is more widely accepted in the timeline at this point, I have a really hard time following the lore nowdays and knowing what is the most widely accepted theory at any given time) and it could certainly be another child of the mci, later that night could even mean later the night that William killed Suzie, and yellow guy could be the parent of one of the other missing children who was lured back to the pizzeria while yellow guy is away from home. We know couch dude (using dude because it's called man sitting, but dude can be used for women too technically depends on who your talking to) but they don't seem to care and it seems like they've left the kid alone while yellow guy is gone.
THANK. YOU. This is what's made the most sense to me from the get-go; all three minigames have a common and horrifying thread of showing how Afton did what he did. This is also precisely the reason this game (Pizzeria Sim as a whole) is the scariest in the series to me. Sure, jump scares, experiments, remnant, that's all interesting, but the actual chills in this one comes from that deep adult fear of something happening to one of your kids, whether they're "your" kid as your child, friend or relative's child, student, mentee, etc. Remnant doesn't exist, but people like William do, that's horrifying, and these games are surprisingly effective at showing it without being graphic.
The odd thing about the footprints we presume belong to an animatronic is that there is only one set of them. If they were luring away the kid alongside them, we'd probably see more of them, especially alongside the tinier footprints. It's as if something appeared there in that one spot then just vanished right there.
maybe the kid collected a foot from fredd, the owners of freddy's came to his house n then broke his window yelling 4 the foot, se he droppped it there, n then the kid killed himselft bc lore
I think it was the crying child controlling the fredbear animatronic, and the footprints are the Michael. The springlock suits weren't decommissioned until later, so its possible he could still control it back then
Although, like you said, this theory could have its holes, I personally find it way more acceptable than the theory John did. And I like the concept of the hidden minigames in FNAF 6 being about Afton’s bidding. And also, perhaps a way to justify William luring the child out of his house while as Spring Bonnie would be either: 1) it wasn’t raining when he did, like you said, OR 2) he was wearing straight up a Spring Bonnie suit and not a spring-lock suit.
@@sleepylmguy9968 that would also make more sense with the rain, since the rain is pretty heavy by the time of us playing as "mustard man" (I genuinely heard someone refer to our orange sprite character like that once, though unfortunately I can't remember who or where), so if the footprints had been made before it started raining they very likely would have washed away by the time of the minigame. Plus Afton wouldn't even have had to worry about the rain or the spring locks of course, since they wouldn't even be in use
@@an-animal-lover Afton being in a fursuit makes sense, but the animatronic doesn’t imo. One of the other minigame endings shows us how debilitating the rain is to animatronics- security puppet breaks down completely after like a minute of exposure.
In Chica's highschool cutscenes, Chica was refering to take 'him'. And if he doesn't show up, she will come to his house. And if he doesn't open the door, she'll find a window. I think Chica's highschool cutscenes are representing william afton and the way he murdered some of the kids. Just like chica was talking about a dog accident.
@@JermoMetGames Suzie honestly confuses me and makes me question the entire lore. William gives her a robot body for some reason. Foxy go go go had the exact same five kids celebrate a birthday party. Three times under the same Foxy suit performer. Meaning, the Foxy perfomer was likely the man that adopted the five MCI in the Candy Cadet minigames. And, this man was arrested for the MCI. This should matter a lot because William Afton was put into the criminal database in fanf2 and Foxy got rebranded for infamy.
@@justice8718 considering that we have solid proof and description of the way Susie was killed. I think it's safe to say, them dying all at the same time in the same place has been retconned
@@janno7214 LMAO. No. The Candy Cadet stories literally stated they died at the same time by the same killer. Spring Bonnie isn't even a character they feature in the Freddy cartoons from fnaf4.
I just had this insane thought. What if the Midnight Motorist mini game showcased the death of Cassidy, the one he should not have killed? And that “Secret Grave” was Cassidy’s. And the reason why it’s called the “Secret Grave” was because nobody knows about the grave. Not even the father who came home _later that night._
I do like that thought. However, the problem is with the timeline. There's a lot of evidence that Cassidy was killed as part of the first missing children incident as the pizzeria, with the other four children, so there's no reason for Cassidy to be killed in her home. Also a more pressing issue is that the victim here is a boy. Cassidy is a girl.
@@KirigayaKazutoBeater there's no actual proof that cassidy is a girl. yes in the books it's a girl, but the vengeful spirit clearly isn't the same girl. cassidy is a unisex name and scott asked the voice actor to be ambiguous with the gender
About the twisted ones holes being called graves, in the book it describes the holes by saying "They looked like graves, but at a second glance they were too messy, their outlines poorly defined." Either way it still doesn't make sense with the minigame
I don't know if it's actually important, but I've never seen anyone mentioned this: why isn't the window mentioned? Yellow guy doesn't mention it. The person on the couch doesn't mention glass shattering. There's no visible shards on the ground either, so either it was broken from the outside, in which case there's no footprints that actually lead up to the window, or the glass has been cleaned up. Nothing points to the window having been broken that night. It's just... there.
I'm still of the thought that Yellow Guy is Afton, who drove home in a drunken panic because he just murked a kid outside the window of an active restaurant.* The theory that each minigame depicts one of Afton's kills is still _really_ good, though. Like you said, it makes way more sense that way from a narrative point of view. * I use FNAF 2's "Take cake to the children" and Pizza Sim's Security Puppet (I think they're the same) minigames because they seem to fit more. "Later that Night" feels like we've already seen what happened, and since we saw Charlie's death twice, once in the exact same game, I think that's the event the name is referring to.
This was something I only recently came up with, but I think the 'point' of Midnight Motorist was to hint at how the crying child became so afraid of the pizzaria. I don't have a full fledged theory about it, but I do think that him going to 'that place again' on what seems to be the night of one of William's murders could lead to the crying child seeing something he shouldn't and being scarred by it. As the son of one of the owners, he would have access to more areas of the pizzaria than most kids and could therefore stumble in on his father in the spring bonnie suit. This then leads to the lines "Remember what you saw." "You know what will happen if he catches you."
Someone broke into that room, there's no glass. Not sure why Orange is suddenly Purple- If "Later That Night" was after Charlie, I think Henry would have plenty of reason to get plastered. Also it is raining while the Crying Child is locked in Parts and Service in FNaF 4. Same night? If that is a grave, it's the dog. I say if because we see Spring Bonnie digging holes in Fruity Maze, so William probably buries the suit or is using underground passages later associated with SL.
That theory of "yellow guy is afton" always pissed me off. "It's afton, the kid is Michael, the house layout is the same. The car is the same." Ignoring all of the other parts. The yellow man is an abusive alcoholic father and the kid lived in a neglectful house where the most consideration he got was from someone basically going "go easy on him he's had a rough day." And his main place of escape was Freddy's. Like with the girl Afton targets vulnerable kids and kids within the local area. He sees this kid being abused or knows how the father is sneaks over at night when the dad isn't at home and the other guardian is busy watching TV to care. They break the window to get the kid out and together they return to the pizzeria or wherever. He's the perfect victim, "kid ran away from his abusive family. Don't blame him." It's about him taking the kids.
May I add that the Twisted Ones Theory also couldn't work because Scott confirmed the games and books are different continuities. For some reason, alot of theorizers seem to forget that.
If I was a betting man, and leaning into the theory that the minigames show Afton's crimes, I think the 'secret grave' is just that, it's the grave of one of Afton's victims that he didn't stuff into an animatronic. For that matter I don't think he actually stuffed any child corpses into the animatronics, I think that's a little fan misunderstanding which was cleared up when we see the Puppet STUFF the souls of the murdered children into the suits. The only one that was quite literally stuffed was likely Charlotte which is shortly before William targets the daughter of Henry as a form of revenge, who we also know was not stuffed but rather had the animatronic near her when she died. Whoever is in the grave must be one of those victims, I think the child who was lured away was the kid that became Bonnie and the one that is buried is the last one, Cassidy. The grave isn't just a secret, it's the grave OF a secret, the one who inhabits Golden Freddy.
Interesting stuff. I really appreciate that your process involves trying to poke holes in your own theories as you go along. Good critical eye. In this case we don't have a complete theory to work with but there's definitely some interesting observations along the way. "Laterthatnight" is really the sticking point for me. What does that title mean? Which night?? Maybe that's the way to figure it out: cross reference the relevant nights it could be with the known locations of people and animatronics to see what we're left with.
I went into this expecting it to be another one of the thousands midnight motorist videos I see every week but this theory genuinely makes so much sense. These usually don’t make me think or feel anything I just go “eh idk seems like a stretch” on all of them but this has me convinced. Amazing video, put almost everything in a new, more sensical perspective for me
I think midnight motorist is the night after afton killed Charlie, the person in the chair is afton’s wife, yellow/orange man is afton, and the child who went to “that place” is Michael.(which is another popular theory) that place is either the grave of the crying child or fazbear. Jr’s is just a bar afton started frequenting after the death of CC and might have been barred from after a night of heavy drinking
I love how after all those years of theorycrafting with relatively limited material of FNaF lore, it became kind of science, with people taking different approaches, perspectives and interpretations, disproving old theories with new ones, poking holes in newer ones, borderline peer reviewing other's works, challenging the current axioms and revealing that they are not so obvious and certain, pulling out old but ignored by the "scientific" community evidence or even wiping the board clean and approaching the topic with completely fresh perspective. We made FNaF lore into its own science.
this is it. this has to be it "I'll just go to his house! And if he doesn't open the door, I'll just find a window! Chimney's always a option" from the toy chica cutscene
@@tobysinbad I also like the idea of it being Cassidy, because the other two minigames are such significant events and characters (puppet and suzie) that I feel like MM should have equal significance. Jeremy and Fritz have never had that much of a story, whereas Cassidy is basically a main character. If I were Scott designing the game I would definitely be inclined to make a minigame about Cassidy if I was also gonna cover the first missing child and the puppet. Plus I think it makes sense for Cassidy’s story to be the most well hidden, because she’s always been the most mysterious spirit, while also being very important. I just feel like Scott would want to make her game hard to find. Whether that actually fits the lore details is another matter though, and I do not know enough to have an opinion about it. I just think it’s thematically neat.
If Funtime Freddy had captured the kid, there would only be one set of footprints bc the child is being carried. If it was SpringBonnie, the two sets make more sense, he was probably holding the kids hand to walk
The thing that bothers me most in midnight motorist is the foot prints Mostly because charlie is the only kid afton kills not wearing the suit We suspected before it was because that was his first kill so he hadn't made started the golden bonnie ritual yet Then chica being the first made that confusing But if afton killed two children that night why would he only use bonnie for one of them? So "later that night" referring to something other than charlie's death night does make a bit more sense
I like the idea that all the special minigames show a murder, but we are mostly lead to believe that all Afton's murders happen at or outside of a Freddy's. So if he was just abducting children by walking around town in a suit? Idk, seems like a stretch.
@@imaginefun13 yep it's so weird why William would wear the suit outside of the restaurant. Especially since it's raining. There's no way he'd leave footprints there because the ground would have to be muddy for it to happen.
@@tobysinbadThere’s one thing that doesn’t make sense to me: why are there only two footprints? If Afton is leading kids back to the pizzeria to kill them, why are there no footprints of his own following the child’s? It looks like someone just set up the suit and left it in one position before picking it up and carrying it away. And if the rain washed away the footprints, why are the child’s footprints still there? It just seems like the suit was left there and forgotten about before someone came back to collect it.
As soon as you mentioned that Spring Bonnie has three toes and rounded feet I realized where you were going with it, and made my own connection to the other minigames--and I have to say, I'm glad I thought on the same track as you. It makes the most sense out of all the theories I've seen!
The minigame's from the perspective of William driving home drunk after the death of his youngest son. The person at Junior's is Henry telling William that he's not allowed in; I believe this was confirmed via audio from another game. The person who escapes through the window is Michael, and the grave would then be where the youngest brother was buried. Essentially, the youngest brother dies earlier that day which we see in a Fnaf 4 minigame, Michael grieves all day and decides to break out (likely after seeing an animatronic possessed by his brother), William arrives at Junior's drunk and emotionally compromised and is turned away by his business partner and then proceeds to drive home only to find his wife trying to dissociate watching TV and his remaining son having broken out through a window, and ending with William deciding to head to the unmarked grave to try and find Michael. Every other theory I've seen has made very little sense and isn't supported by anything in the games; only having support from certified non-canon (to the main universe) books. This one by I forget who is much more grounded and is supported by an audio tape I believe from Sister Location but I could be wrong on which game, as well as the house being illustrated as the same one from Fnaf 4.
i was thinking this too. it just makes a little more sense, but the whole crying child possessing an animatronic seems a bit strange, unless the whole cassidy and crying child possess golden freddy thing is still valid
@@lazylime8046 i'm really iffy on the whole 2 spirits inside of golden freddy to be honest. it just doesn't feel right, anymore. maybe back then, but not now
A HUGE piece everyone is missing that William is only Purple when he's wearing his Security Guard uniform. This could just be him in normal clothes *later that night* after he had murdered Charlie.
Favorite theory/ most likely to happen, out of like the 5 I’ve seen.Amazing you are very undderated keep going you’ll get very popular, and successes will hopefully come just keep going.
I always thought that the person on the couch was Henry and that the child that broke out of the house was Michael. The grave outside is for the crying child. William Afton being the yellow-orange guy makes sense because isn't the "purple guy" only purple because he's usually in shadows? Michael is only purple later on because his body began to rot. Maybe the story is that William was supposed to watch over Charlie while Henry watched over Michael. However, William was depressed and drunk after the death of his youngest son so when he saw Charlie he killed her. Henry was unaware of this which is why he's still at the Afton's house babysitting. When you think about it isn't it strange that Charlie's father wasn't at the restaurant when she was locked out? Usually, parents keep an eye out for their children unless they trusted a close friend or family to do their job for them. Maybe Henry asked William to babysit Charlie and then take her home since her mother was there. I also say that because I'm pretty sure the file name for the person watching the TV is called a man. Since it's called later that night it's probably later the same night of Charlie's death. Now as for Michael breaking out of the house and what animatronic he saw I don't know. But I highly doubt that the child is dead since William says "He will be sorry when he comes back." Michael isn't dead and shouldn't be dead anytime soon. Most likely William ends up tracking him down and then moves his room to the FNaF 4 room. That's why the room has so many cameras in it and why in Sister Location you can see that it's still in the FNaF 4 house. After Michael's stunt of breaking the window and running away, he was moved to a room where he would always be monitored. I think that's also why the nightmare animatronics are there. Think about it- the crying child's room only had 1 door and yet the FNaF 4 room has 2. That wasn't the crying child's room. I believe that the minigames and gameplay in FNaF 4 aren't from the same pov. The mini games with the crying child are from his perspective but the main gameplay is Michael. Rather they're how William is punishing Michael after what he did to his younger brother. JRs if I remember correctly is called a restaurant so it's probably the old location mentioned in FNaF 2. Charlie was probably killed at Fredbear's which is why it closed down. A child died inside and outside the establishment and Charlie's death couldn't be portrayed as an accident. In the FNaF 2 minigame version of her passing the building is incredibly small so it's probably the original location. After her death, the Security Puppet was moved to JRs. The reason why William can't go into JRs is that the death of the crying child lead to a criminal investigation. Since he's being investigated he can't go inside the building. That may be why the MCI incident happens. To spite the security he kills 5 children in JRs and stuffed them in the suits. By the time that happens the puppet was already there which is why the Give Gifts Give Life mini-game occurs.
I looked up a video of the Toy Chica UCN cutscenes because Afton (Toy Chica) flat out states his methods of luring the kids away in them, and a house is talked about during the Puppet (Charlie) cutscene. William remarks about going to her house, and if she didn't answer the door he would use a window or the chimney to get her attention. I bring this up because I'm not sure if it was supposed to help solve Midnight Motorist, or retcon it, especially as the Toy Chica cutscene seems to clash with the FNaF 2 and Security Puppet mini games in terms what those show. Although, you could go with the outlandish idea of Afton getting the kids to lock the door and debiliate the puppet in order for him to murder Charlie, after luring her to the pizzaria, without anyone knowing.
I have a big problem the concept that the fnaf6 minigames depicting william's victim and that is the inconsistency of how they show it. Both security puppet and fruity maze are pretty clear with what they are trying to tell us. Security puppet is about Charlie's death and possesion of the puppet and Fruity maze is about Sussie's death and the beginning of the MCI. Now MM is not as direct with the lore it gives us. Unlike the other two you have go outside of the main minigame to access the important section. This means that the second part of MM most be of high importance. But who of William victims is so important to warrent this secrecy? It can't be Cassidy, the runnaway kid is referred as 'HIM'. I don't think could be one of the other MCI kids, they were clearly killed at Freddy's. If I've to speculate I think the minigame is connected to Elizabeth. Security Puppet is the origin of the Puppet which in PS is inside Lefty, Fruity Maze is connected to William Afton as it was the first time he killed wearing the spring bonnie suit which he is now trapped in. And because we already have Sister Location and it really isn't a trap soul Molten Freddy doesn't have a minigame. Which leaves us with Elizabeth a character that probably does deserve the secrecy and ambiguity of the MM.
Personally, I believe RyeToast’s theory that you play as Afton after Feed The Children, but the person in the chair is his wife and the person who left was Michael, going to his brother’s grave. As for why William’s orange, I think that represents when he’s not actively doing anything wrong. It’s like a mask (plus, it could be a reference to his dialogue in FNAF 4)
What if the kid abducts is cassidy explaining why cassie is so angry because he was already an abusive household so some form of trauma and then he was killed by afton but that's just a theory.
Does anyone ever mention that yellow and purple are complementary colors? Midnight Motorist Guy is more orange-y, but I think that can be attributed to wanting to keep the color palette a certain way, bright yellow would look too cheery/out of place. I have no clue what the hell that could mean though. Following through on that line of logic, Green Guy could be the counterpart of Old Man Consequences, since he's red, and that's just silly. The color of the person just irks me, it's not even close to Fredbear/Spring Bonnie, they're yellower.
To give you some help since I own a copy of the twisted ones, the hole would have to be made of three overlapping square holes to be where a twisted one buried itself for the day. This was uncovered by the main cast in connection with Twisted Freddy's multiple appearances in the book as he left this bizarre patterned hole set in several locations only to emerge from them later. The wolf however seems to hide in forestry and hates it's purpose of abduction so perhaps the wolf made a friend to spite it's maker. It is weird though how yellow man KNOWS that the runaway will return, given there's no proof they maybe able to.
I love this theory and I think you're right. I'd also like to add that if Orange Guy is William why is he referring to his place of business as "that place"? Wouldn't he just say Freddy's or whatever the name of the current location is? "He'll be sorry when he gets back." If this were William wouldn't he be co-owner of the establishment? Just go get him? Shouldn't he in theory have the keys to the place?
That being said, the reason people also associate midnight motorist to William is also the yellow guy being bared from Juniors. To what extent they thought this through, I’m unsure, but this does add a bit of context to your explanation of why people think this.
To my knowledge the line of logic is >Later that night has to refer to some event >Security Puppet shows tire tracks from Afton leaving >Security Puppet is another angle of SAVE HIM where Afton has a purple car >throughout FNaF6 the Fazbear representative is shown with either a purple suit and orange tie/skin or vice versa creating a correlation And optionally, depending on if you believe Jr's isn't a random bar >If Jr's has meaning it's most likely FNaF 2's location as that's the only time there's been a junior themed location(FNaF 2 had Kids Cove) and the only time that banning someone from a building has been mentioned in the series(especially concerning any Previous Employees(aka Afton) Night 6)
Henry is the yellow guy (co-owner and in the yellow Fredward suit) The only desth that happens is Charlotte, turning into the puppet, this was unintentional The guy on the couch is the only other actual staff member that later influences phoneguy in the games, he was the greetet and janitor Him is William, Henry does not know his daughter is dead and was still out looking for her. J.R.s was Fredwards foodhole before Charlotte went missing and was sold in a firesale. Henry can't go in as it's no longer his, the police found no evidence and J.R.s is in the midst of mass refurbishing, hence all the cars and it being open at night. The nightguard here influences Fredwards 1, its why be canonically dies, in the games, loosely made inuniverse by Scunt Cunthorne. SMH. Henry locked William in the room and locked the springs so he couldn't leave the suit. The smallfootprints are the puppet following William. It does not like rain and so is on its tendrils on the ground and holding an umbrella Also no. Children souls do not infect robots. This is an arcade game in Fredwards PLC, that has stand up machines with all of the main games but long lines and a VR cabinet
Yeah I noticed the flaw with it being a twisted one since it was taking place at night, a counter point would the game starts at midnight and the animatronic could have just buried itself. Though the fact that the character doesn't react to the mound suggests it something that been there and the guy was aware of it. Though if they didn't refer to the child as a him then the mound could have been Susie's dead dog buried there and the mini game could been how she got lured to the pizza place.
Afton wants to make kids happy with his animatronics after all. He steals sad kids whose parents are neglecting them which is why all his bots are programmed to capture just such a child. He then makes the child a part of the Fazbear family to sing and dance forever. Their happiest day over and over
I think you were on to something as we know springlocks act as animatronics and suits. It could be that Afton actually sent out the animatronic version of SpringBonnie to kidnap this kid. Now in the twisted novel especially in the visual (or graphic always get those confused) it is shown that the way the twisted animatronics kidnapped people was by stuffing them inside their springlock suits. We see this in the books that later when Charlie let her self-get kidnapped the robot then buried itself. Now we could have something like this happening that halfway through the walk to Freddy's the SpringBonnie suit noticed to begin to rain it then scooped up the kid inside of itself and buried itself under that mound of dirt we see. When walking over that area. Basically, if this is correct that child is still alive when we arrive home. Sidenote in the novels they are just holes but it was shown that in the novels a foxy twisted animatronic still attacked Charlie during the day. Meaning under the right circumstances they can still attack during the day and night.
I think the mini game shows Michael Afton’s home life after his original family is torn apart. The yellow guy is his new stepfather. The footprints outside the window are Springtrap’s. William is guiding Michael back to the sister location each night to put Elizabeth/Baby back together, which we know he ends up doing.
I like your theory that Afton was the one who left the prints by the window in his Spring Bonnie suit, though I have a different theory on the mound of dirt. Like you said, Afton couldn't have been in the rain in the suit, as the springlocks would fail. So what if he lures and knocks out or kills the kid BEFORE it started raining (it wasn't raining while yellow guy is driving on the freeway) so when it started he took off the suit and quickly mounded up some dirt and leaf debris on top of it to hide it since he couldn't have carried both the suit AND the kid's body out of the woods at the same time. He was probably planning on coming back to get it later. And this could tie back to FNAF 2, since if he DID bury the suit overnight while it rained, the streaks of mud on it might have been what clued Phone Guy in that someone had being using the suit to the lure the missing kids.
I find it interesting that everyone assumes the person who left through the window was a child, though I imagine that is largely due to the "this is my house" rant sounding like an angry father. But if you look at 5:24 in this video you can clearly see that the print size/stride match the adult sprite. Maybe it's not a kidnapping, maybe it's an escape. Here's my crazy theory: - "Mustard man" is Henry. This is the snake and the kittens scenario, from Candy Cadet. Afton has already killed once but Henry can't bring himself to turn in his friend, even if the victim was his own daughter. Maybe Afton managed to spin some convincing lie, claimed it was an accident, or guilt-tripped Henry about the '83 bite somehow being his fault. - The secret grave is Charlotte's, buried near Henry's house so he can visit her as we do in the minigame. - Henry has been driven to drink by this, to the point he's being turned away. - In an effort to protect other kids and shield his friend, Henry has forced Afton to come live with him so he can keep an eye on him. And keep his door open to show he isn't up to something. - The figure in the chair is Henry's wife who has been watching Afton on some pretense she was told, being sympathetic to him because she doesn't know the truth. - The three-toed print is from the Spring Bonnie suit in animatronic mode, come to collect its wearer. (Much like we call Glamrock Freddy in SB) It breaks the window so he can leave in secret and Afton then walks off beside it, waiting until later to change it into suit mode as it has begun to rain. - "That place" is Afton's new mad scientist lab where he has begun to study his unintentional creation, with Henry being too upset by his daughter's death to realize the importance of what happened to the puppet. Maybe Afton sees a way to a better life for his own brain-damaged son, maybe he sees an avenue to eternal life for himself, or maybe he is mad science-ing for mad science's sake, who knows. He just needs a few more test subjects... - The timeline would then go: Puppet minigame leads to Midnight Motorist leads to Fruity Maze. (Or: An act of malice leads to a sinister discovery leads to a cold-blooded attack of opportunity.) But hey, that's just a theory. A gaaaaame-- Okay, I'll see myself out.
I feel like it'd be weird for us to see and be introduced to a character that we never see again especially if the main reason we see them is to show or tell us something we already knew about. It makes no sense especially sense every known victim of Afton's is associated with a Fazbear location if this is Afton than it breaks it because than this person has no connection at all to Freddy's at all.
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Interesting take, though I think there are more connections between Afton and mustard man than you think, namely the implied relationship between midnight motorist and security puppet. It's not a lot but we see that when Charlie is killed outside it is dark, it is raining and there are car tire tracks next to her body which really didn't have to be there unless it was to make a point. We then see the purple car speeding away on a rainy night in midnight motorist, with the following scene being labled "later that night" in the code. Lastly I think it's Michael Afton in the living room watching his immortal and the restless and because of his text and shirt colour. Is this proof? No, I wouldn't say so, but I do think these point to it being Afton and why people made that connection. IMO Afton has already killed some kids which is why the security puppet is installed, why he's turned away from a junior fnaf location (phone guy says employees are being investigated and can't come to work at one point), why he has to kill Charlie outside and why there are wanted posters in the alleyway because someone probably has a vague description of the murder suspect but not enough to actually know Afton is the murderer. He's angry at Henry for questioning/kicking him from the company so he kills Charlie in 1983 and we see that the crying child is alive still (but dies later that year) and that he has broken his window - that's why in FnaF 4 he's been moved to a room without a window and is being surveild. Anyway that's why I personally thinks it's William Afton. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Idea: the grave is the grave of the child who just got lured away - hidden grave, Afton hid the body there, we don’t know when this occurs - if You look at the glitchtrap suit it’s hand sewn costume, no machinery just a suit, he could be using that. Afton has to come during the rain, otherwise he wouldn’t leave footprints
CC is the least likely to have a secret grave though imo- he died either at the restaurant in front of everyone or in hospital. In either case, the body would be with the proper authorities and nobody would get the chance to sneak his body into a random wood
I think the biggest holes are the lack of acknowledgement of what the father in this theory says, "He's gone back to that place again" this has happened more than once, the second biggest hole for me is Jr's I don't think it's just some random bar, it's on the bottom of the screen which goes away from the screen which could mean the father went somewhere and is now coming back, "Laterthatnight". But you know where else we see a purple car? Fnaf 2 minigame, Afton drives up and murders a kid outside the resteraunt. Afton comes back home later that night, the person at the tv could be the crying child's brother with the foxy mask and the child that was abducted is probably crying child, as for the the 3 toed footprints, I'm stumped I admit. But I think "that place" is sister location and the grave is a makeshift grave for Elizabeth
Honestly, Michael being Couch Guy really makes no sense. CC being the runaway makes no sense. It doesnt fit them whatsoever. Michael is more likely to BE the runaway, now the grave being Elizabeth's? While it doesnt fit in how i've read the Timeline, not a bad thought. Personally, if this is after Charlie's murder, it'd be CC's own Grave. Michael is 100% the sort to lock a door, smash a window, and book it, fuck the Authority. And such...
The fact we have to preface theories now with "dont harass the person im disputing" shows to me we forgot that theorizing is supposed to be about discussion as a community and that disproving stuff is how we progress, instead of acting like these are sports teams that youre loyal to.
I just wish this could be simpler. The whole "AFTON REBUILDS HIS KID AS A REMNANT/AGONY INFUSED ANIMATRONIC CYBORG!" Why can't it just be murderers, haunted robots and vengeful spirits...
If monsier mustard is Suzie’s dad as some ppl here are suggesting, maybe his terrible driving killed the dog, which would explain why it had a secret grave. The kid who ran away would still need to be a brother though, bc orange man says “he” and Suzie was already at the arcade cabinet at Freddie’s when Afton approached her.
Proposal orange guy is Afton because his skin isn't actually purple its just his shadow cause in the Atari age of games we could not haveblack shadows because the back round is black so Scott made him purple instead. second aftons skin color is a yellow because he was born in Utah cause the Freddy's location is in Hurricane Utah and we were told that in the books.
I like the idea that this is the family of one of afton's victims, not afton, the best. But if it was william afton's family could the person in the chair be his wife, the son locked in his room be michael, and the mystery grave be evan's (buried privately after the bite so as not to draw any more negative attention to the restaurant)?
I have my own theory: I agree that this is a victims house, but actually Susie’s. It could explain why no one was there when Susie’s dog died, because this dad was drunk driving. This explains the random dirt mound it a secret area, it’s Susie’s dog. Not to mention later that day, as it’s literally later that day of Susie’s disappearance.
The problem is that her supposed big brother refered her as a he but she's a girl so it's not Suzie or Charlie because the victim is a boy so Freddy, Bonnie, Foxy are possible but it's probably Cassidy because he's the one you shouldn't have killed, also Cassidy from UCN has no gender confirmed so i think it's Cassidy
I don't think it's that solid to say that the link to orange guy being Afton is weak. In addition to the purple car, there's the fact that the shape of the house resembles the FNAF4 menu house shape. I do think that if orange guy is Afton, there's no way gray person is Michael. It makes NO sense for Michael to tell his father to do anything, and would the same guy who says about one child "He'll be sorry when he gets back." would let his other child tell him what to do without making THEM sorry for stepping out of line? I don't think so. Gotta be the wife. Only a wife would have the standing required to tell an angry man that they live with what to do. Even then, it's weird that he doesn't respond. Who knows, this minigame is a mess and a half.
I commented on some of the implications of FuhNaff's theory, and i'm going to do it again here I think this could be the abduction of Susie (the missing child who inhabits chica), thus explaining the grave as the dog's grave that was then desecrated by afton to fill Mangle. There's still no explanation for the rain, but being "Later that Night" from Fruity maze, which appears before it by 1 slot on the catalog, also solves some issues.
If presuming that Afton stole the child during the events of later that night and it was rain it could be possible that instead of the spring lock suit he used the suit he hand made shown in fnaf vr
The footprints are visible because it rained and turned mostly to mud, and the footprints would only form if something was walking around during or after the rain. but, it's still raining when orange/yellow guy finds the footprints. Unless anyone wants to argue that I don't know how dirt/mud works perhaps?
Depending on how deep the pocket is its not unreasonable that the footprints would still be there for some time even when it's still raining. And if it's an animatronic then the feet would be pretty heavy or even if it's Ol Willy having to stand there for a while as his feet sink.
I know this is much before its time but what if it was Gregory? Glamrock freddy has 3 toes and round feet, plus, following Gregory’s timeline, it would make sense for yellow guy to say he “went off to that place again; being the Pizzaplex. As for the grave, im not sure. Iw as thinking the locked box with the “real” dead gregory (assuming he’s a robot) but im not sure. Not sure how plausible it is but hey its something.
Both of the kids in the family are dead. Yellow Guy is William. Person on the couch is ACTUALLY William’s Wife. And the kid running is actually Micheal, running to his brother grave
i havent met him but i sassed him on twitter and he was chill. fu nah is awesome. i dont always agree with him but he is good at explaining his chaos vibes.
What gets me is, the child left a trtail of footprints but the animatronic only left two prints. I don't think the animatronic could break the window without leaving tracks, so I don't think the animatronic broke the window. The child would not have broken their own window unless...yellow guy locked the child inside their room. At the same time, it makes no sense for the child to see a motionless animatronic outside their window and proceed to bust out their window and run right past it. It also doesn't make any sense for there to be no animatronic footprints following behind the child's footprints. I can't think of any other explanation other than the animatronic was motionless outside for a long time and someone physically picked it up and moved it to and from that spot.
My issue with this is whereas the Funaff theory is trying to tie everything together; this theory instead states that barley anything is relevant and has no real meaning. Jr's is just a random bar, the person on the sofa is irrelevant, and the child and the yellow guy have no greater meaning unlike the other characters we see in these minigames
It can’t be spring Bonnie though cause of the rain as we know spring lock animatronics will lock the user if it gets wet and I don’t think the kid was being lured to be killed because yellow guy mentions he’s sneaking off to that place meaning he’s been to certain place before which is so weird idk could be William was wearing glitchtrap suit if it’s actually ever existed since we don’t know if it was ever real or just something created in the game
Finally! I've always been VERY unsure on the theory that Yellow guy is Afton. It just doesn't make any sense. Your theory makes so much more sense! (No hate on FuhNaff, the "Yellow guy is Afton" theory has been around before he said it)
But it has to be William. Same vehicle as the fnaf 2 mini game. The game is called later that night and what would be the point. Also the mci victim house doesn't make sense because it's assumed that the mci is a freddy location incident, if someone was taken from thier home then it's just children going missing with no relation to freddys
Hard to say. But it could be after the FNAF 3 fire. Maybe after Springtrap is near killed he wanders off and finds a child. Maybe luring them and killing them to harvest Remnant and 'recharge' himself. Sort of like Pennywise feeding on a child. He either lures him out or breaks in. The child then runs outside and away but we don't see signs of pursuit. So hard to tell. The pile of dirt could be said child after the murder. Unknown to orange man. This is going off the Afton animatronic idea here.
Okay, I like this one. This is a Midnight Motorist theory I can get behind. I don’t mean to sound mean, but I never understood why people are willing to believe Yellow Guy is supposed to be the same guy who has consistently been depicted with a purple silhouette and otherwise been associated with the color purple. Even in his cameo in _FNAF4,_ where (at the time of release at least) he didn’t have anything (immediately apparent) to do with the main story, you know it’s him because he’s a purple silhouette with white pupils on dark eyes, while all the other characters in the Atari cutscenes are pretty detailed by FNAF standards. (I’m convinced the main reason Michael is allowed to be “Literally-Purple Guy” is because he’s not a silhouette - he’s still wearing clothes.) That, and, while I absolutely believe William was an awful father, we’ve never been given any indication of him being a violent drunk. It just seemed like a really counterintuitive theory base to me. My only issue with your theory - and I’m just saying this for the sake of being thorough - is that it seems odd to me for William to stand outside someone’s house in his Spring Bonnie suit, especially going so far as to break the kid’s window (there’s no glass on the ground. It had to have been broken from outside) just to lure him to a murder spot. I know he’s very committed to his fursona, but wearing a FazEnt staff-exclusive costume outside company property? Even if he is the cofounder, I’m not sure people would see that and not think it’s weird. Then again, Will doesn’t really have much of a history with subtlety. I promise I do like your theory. (It kinda would be nice to know what “that place” is, but Lord knows there’s no solving everything in this series, so oh well 🤷♀️)
Supposing this theory is correct, it would make sense to assume the grave is the resting grounds for yellow guy's wife. There is no presence of a mother in the house where there are 2 children, which is odd in and of itself, but it would also explain yellow guy's alcoholism. Only problem with the theory is, why would it be significant to mention this child? It just doesn't seem to have a purpose to be in the game.
I think it’s funny how people assumed it’s William because of the purple car, except your car is the only one that is NOT purple. Like it’s pinkish while the rest are purple
I don't think we can at all say that we play as crying child in fnaf 4. Michael draws the nightmares. Pretty closed case. Also as to how orange guy became William dont quote me but I think matpat might be to blame.
The mini game is literally about speeding down a highway in the dark, I think he might be the one who killed Suzies dog. And a drunk driver wouldn’t stay to console a little girl, he’d gtfo
Hits and kills the dog, buries it secretly, upset/sobering up after this event, tried to go back to the bar to drink some more and forget killing the dog, he’s cut off and goes home, and his son is gone.
Maybe the kidnapped kid is the girl we see in the other arcade minigame The one were we see spring bonny behind the reflection of the girl Would make sense since the feet would match, and the secret grave could be the grave of her dead pet that we see in the other arcade game, and hence why she's sad. Maybe all the arcade games in Pizzeria Simulator are connected with each other.
I’m glad to see that even if you don’t agree with FuhNaff, you’re still being respectful towards him.
It’s frustrating to see some FNAF fans get mad and harass people over theories they dislike.
Agreed. I see too many people mock others for theorizing. It's possibly discouraging others from sharing their theories. This whole fandom has been built on theorizing. How are we going to figure anything out about the story if we don't throw out different possibilities.
One person made two entire videos mocking John,like no stop that’s really gross
there something sad and alarming when a video that do the most healthy theorycrafting method ever have to put multiples warning for the fans to not put down another theorycrafter because they discuss a theory. (being critical of a theory, while respecting the person who made said one.)
but I think it's because content creators/fans don't seem to understand that, or mistook theorycrafting with putting their reputation on the lines.
theorycrafring ARE trial and error, this is normal and healthy to make mistakes. because you then know what don't work.
and I think as long as reputations will be mixed in the discution of a theory, it won't get better.
@@viewer6152i agree, plus i feel like lore usually gets massively rewritten and retconned randomly all the time so i don’t really understand why people hate on theories so hard. like i’ve been here since the first game and i remember all the crazy theories that have been accepted as fact through the years that have just been completely wrong. i don’t see why anyone gets in their feelings about theories like they have this one lmao
This community is so toxic. Imagine missing the point of theorising.
I hope Fuhnaff never stops his insane theories, even if some of them are borderline senseless, he thinks outside of the box and makes people think harder about often overlooked points. Especially his big SB theory, it threw me trough a loop of brainf*ck a few times
yeah it's honestly really fun to watch the stuff he comes up with even when it's insane. his SB theories got me back into the fandom, I had finally got burnt out since it had been like a year since SB launched at the time i think? his new outlooks made me excited about theorizing again even if i don't think all of them are true.
Like Matpat once said “I don’t always agree with the conclusions but I like the questions he asks.” Which rings pretty true for this theory. I get where he’s coming from but there are leaps in logic that just don’t weave together right
People forget that fnaf is a game, and a pretty absurd one. People are allowed to have fun and make silly theories sometimes.
Yes, that's my favorite part that he likes to think outside the box and make us look more into the small overlooked things. Even if he's not quite right it can certainly lead us in the right direction just by taking a deep dive. I would be really disappointed if he decided to stop fnaf theories, at least while there's still story/lore to find and or put together.
Another really interesting "outside of the box" thing to take note is the mention of the robots being 20+ years old, despite the timeline of the first game being "1993", and 20 years ago at that point would be 73. The first games crew does not exist in 73, not even the spring animatronics as far as I know.
This could have been the retcon Scott mentioned, but who knows.
I definitely don't agree that the person on the couch is Michael, if the orange character is Afton. It makes more sense if the person that ran away was Michael. This would be after Evan (the crying child) dies.
I like your idea, though, because it continues the pattern from the other minigames: Afton's crimes, like you said.
I think the name "later **that** night" is too significant to say it's just a random night. It has to relate to Charlie's murder, or the fruity maze girl's.
William never cared about Crying Child. If he did, he would've stopped the bite from happening or at least tell Michael that bullying is wrong. It doesn't make sense for William to have plenty of time to put cameras all over the house, yet somehow no time to find a proper babysitter.
@@kumoraifox6357I mean I he did not care about C.C then why would he goes out of his way to create the psychic friend fredbear
@@asuperrandomguy8266 the simple answer is the pain the bullying causes. William's scientific philosophy is pain and fear allow the soul to be moved to another body. 'the spirit follows the flesh and the pain.' this means he's using the boy in his experiments and explains his Lacksadaisy attitude to parenting in Fnaf 4. He had an opportunity to save his son on the third night after helping a worker into a spring lock costume. He ignores the boy's presence. The cameras are to make sure he's suffering in a manner useful to William. William ONLY shows concern when the bullying kills the crying child BEFORE William's experiment is concluded which is why he uses Michael as an experiment in the main gameplay of fnaf 4. To teach him a lesson and to experiment with sorrow and guilt.
It wasn’t raining in the original part of the minigame for Midnight Motorist, only switched when you head into the secret part. The tracks still being visible despite the rain means they were fresh. No more than a couple hours old.
I’m only adding this one cause your theory makes so much sense to me.
I feel like this is a valid interpretation of Midnight Motorist, my main issue is just. Why are we being shown it?
Puppet minigame is important because puppet
Fruity Maze is the first MCI victim, Susie (and is also a lot more of a background element in a minigame that would otherwise exist)
Later That Night, under this theory, would just be a random murder since every other death we know of was at a restaurant. A murder that was never expanded on in a game that was mostly wrapping up loose ends otherwise. And this is a minigame specifically created as a secret bonus route when the MCI minigame was more so just a background element in a previously existing game. It's a weird higher level of effort for an incident we otherwise know nothing about and doesn't line up with any of William's usual MO
This. These are definitely things to consider and why I personally don’t really believe this theory. It’s a good one though! But there’s holes, but then again when aren’t there any holes right?
@@ScapeVEVO Foxy’s minigame shows specifically that the kids are away from the group and unhappy, that’s the repeating theme before the scare when he walks in on all the bodies. The children were killed in quick succession, not together- that’s part of what makes it imo the most unsettling- it was quick and efficient and so *recent*.
From the murders we have stories for, Afton is shown use the kids’ isolation to his advantage. we see him take an opportunity with Charlie’s murder, we see it’s his strategy to lure Susie, and it’s the protocol he literally programs into Baby for her stomach hand shenanigans.
As much as I hate the idea of Agony and Remnant the same way I hate midichlorians from Star Wars, I feel like much of the tragedy of FNAF’s victims is in their often incidental loneliness immediately before their murders.
@@sleepylmguy9968 that's kinda how i would see it in this circumstance. That it could take place at a restaurant still with the footprints (both sets) possibly leading to one of the Freddy's locations (or fredbears whichever is more widely accepted in the timeline at this point, I have a really hard time following the lore nowdays and knowing what is the most widely accepted theory at any given time) and it could certainly be another child of the mci, later that night could even mean later the night that William killed Suzie, and yellow guy could be the parent of one of the other missing children who was lured back to the pizzeria while yellow guy is away from home. We know couch dude (using dude because it's called man sitting, but dude can be used for women too technically depends on who your talking to) but they don't seem to care and it seems like they've left the kid alone while yellow guy is gone.
THANK. YOU. This is what's made the most sense to me from the get-go; all three minigames have a common and horrifying thread of showing how Afton did what he did.
This is also precisely the reason this game (Pizzeria Sim as a whole) is the scariest in the series to me. Sure, jump scares, experiments, remnant, that's all interesting, but the actual chills in this one comes from that deep adult fear of something happening to one of your kids, whether they're "your" kid as your child, friend or relative's child, student, mentee, etc. Remnant doesn't exist, but people like William do, that's horrifying, and these games are surprisingly effective at showing it without being graphic.
The odd thing about the footprints we presume belong to an animatronic is that there is only one set of them. If they were luring away the kid alongside them, we'd probably see more of them, especially alongside the tinier footprints. It's as if something appeared there in that one spot then just vanished right there.
they probably just came out of the bush and receded back into the bush
@@gdeveloper3309 Never thought about that before 🤔
maybe the kid collected a foot from fredd, the owners of freddy's came to his house n then broke his window yelling 4 the foot, se he droppped it there, n then the kid killed himselft bc lore
I think it was the crying child controlling the fredbear animatronic, and the footprints are the Michael. The springlock suits weren't decommissioned until later, so its possible he could still control it back then
Although, like you said, this theory could have its holes, I personally find it way more acceptable than the theory John did.
And I like the concept of the hidden minigames in FNAF 6 being about Afton’s bidding.
And also, perhaps a way to justify William luring the child out of his house while as Spring Bonnie would be either: 1) it wasn’t raining when he did, like you said, OR 2) he was wearing straight up a Spring Bonnie suit and not a spring-lock suit.
The fact William Afton was busy with the MCI' killer's child had always been super strange to think about.
@@sleepylmguy9968 that would also make more sense with the rain, since the rain is pretty heavy by the time of us playing as "mustard man" (I genuinely heard someone refer to our orange sprite character like that once, though unfortunately I can't remember who or where), so if the footprints had been made before it started raining they very likely would have washed away by the time of the minigame. Plus Afton wouldn't even have had to worry about the rain or the spring locks of course, since they wouldn't even be in use
@@an-animal-lover Afton being in a fursuit makes sense, but the animatronic doesn’t imo. One of the other minigame endings shows us how debilitating the rain is to animatronics- security puppet breaks down completely after like a minute of exposure.
@@an-animal-lover idk if this is where you heard it, but I’ve heard MatPat call the orange guy “mustard man” a few times
@@WishGender that's what I was thinking, it's most likely the case
In Chica's highschool cutscenes, Chica was refering to take 'him'. And if he doesn't show up, she will come to his house. And if he doesn't open the door, she'll find a window.
I think Chica's highschool cutscenes are representing william afton and the way he murdered some of the kids. Just like chica was talking about a dog accident.
That's a massive stretch in my opinion. The MCI had all of the kids die at once in "Foxy go go go".
@@justice8718 Maybe other victims? I mean. Suzie was playing an arcade game rigtht?
@@JermoMetGames Suzie honestly confuses me and makes me question the entire lore. William gives her a robot body for some reason.
Foxy go go go had the exact same five kids celebrate a birthday party. Three times under the same Foxy suit performer. Meaning, the Foxy perfomer was likely the man that adopted the five MCI in the Candy Cadet minigames. And, this man was arrested for the MCI. This should matter a lot because William Afton was put into the criminal database in fanf2 and Foxy got rebranded for infamy.
@@justice8718 considering that we have solid proof and description of the way Susie was killed. I think it's safe to say, them dying all at the same time in the same place has been retconned
@@janno7214 LMAO. No. The Candy Cadet stories literally stated they died at the same time by the same killer.
Spring Bonnie isn't even a character they feature in the Freddy cartoons from fnaf4.
I just had this insane thought. What if the Midnight Motorist mini game showcased the death of Cassidy, the one he should not have killed? And that “Secret Grave” was Cassidy’s. And the reason why it’s called the “Secret Grave” was because nobody knows about the grave. Not even the father who came home _later that night._
fuck that’s awful I love it
that said, corpses go in suits that’s just science
I do like that thought. However, the problem is with the timeline. There's a lot of evidence that Cassidy was killed as part of the first missing children incident as the pizzeria, with the other four children, so there's no reason for Cassidy to be killed in her home.
Also a more pressing issue is that the victim here is a boy. Cassidy is a girl.
Makes no sense in the timeline but I do really like the thought of that being Cassidys grave
@@KirigayaKazutoBeater there's no actual proof that cassidy is a girl. yes in the books it's a girl, but the vengeful spirit clearly isn't the same girl. cassidy is a unisex name and scott asked the voice actor to be ambiguous with the gender
About the twisted ones holes being called graves, in the book it describes the holes by saying "They looked like graves, but at a second glance they were too messy, their outlines poorly defined." Either way it still doesn't make sense with the minigame
I don't know if it's actually important, but I've never seen anyone mentioned this: why isn't the window mentioned?
Yellow guy doesn't mention it. The person on the couch doesn't mention glass shattering. There's no visible shards on the ground either, so either it was broken from the outside, in which case there's no footprints that actually lead up to the window, or the glass has been cleaned up.
Nothing points to the window having been broken that night. It's just... there.
I'm still of the thought that Yellow Guy is Afton, who drove home in a drunken panic because he just murked a kid outside the window of an active restaurant.*
The theory that each minigame depicts one of Afton's kills is still _really_ good, though. Like you said, it makes way more sense that way from a narrative point of view.
* I use FNAF 2's "Take cake to the children" and Pizza Sim's Security Puppet (I think they're the same) minigames because they seem to fit more. "Later that Night" feels like we've already seen what happened, and since we saw Charlie's death twice, once in the exact same game, I think that's the event the name is referring to.
This was something I only recently came up with, but I think the 'point' of Midnight Motorist was to hint at how the crying child became so afraid of the pizzaria. I don't have a full fledged theory about it, but I do think that him going to 'that place again' on what seems to be the night of one of William's murders could lead to the crying child seeing something he shouldn't and being scarred by it. As the son of one of the owners, he would have access to more areas of the pizzaria than most kids and could therefore stumble in on his father in the spring bonnie suit. This then leads to the lines "Remember what you saw." "You know what will happen if he catches you."
Someone broke into that room, there's no glass. Not sure why Orange is suddenly Purple- If "Later That Night" was after Charlie, I think Henry would have plenty of reason to get plastered.
Also it is raining while the Crying Child is locked in Parts and Service in FNaF 4. Same night?
If that is a grave, it's the dog. I say if because we see Spring Bonnie digging holes in Fruity Maze, so William probably buries the suit or is using underground passages later associated with SL.
That theory of "yellow guy is afton" always pissed me off. "It's afton, the kid is Michael, the house layout is the same. The car is the same."
Ignoring all of the other parts.
The yellow man is an abusive alcoholic father and the kid lived in a neglectful house where the most consideration he got was from someone basically going "go easy on him he's had a rough day." And his main place of escape was Freddy's.
Like with the girl Afton targets vulnerable kids and kids within the local area. He sees this kid being abused or knows how the father is sneaks over at night when the dad isn't at home and the other guardian is busy watching TV to care. They break the window to get the kid out and together they return to the pizzeria or wherever.
He's the perfect victim, "kid ran away from his abusive family. Don't blame him."
It's about him taking the kids.
May I add that the Twisted Ones Theory also couldn't work because Scott confirmed the games and books are different continuities. For some reason, alot of theorizers seem to forget that.
If I was a betting man, and leaning into the theory that the minigames show Afton's crimes, I think the 'secret grave' is just that, it's the grave of one of Afton's victims that he didn't stuff into an animatronic. For that matter I don't think he actually stuffed any child corpses into the animatronics, I think that's a little fan misunderstanding which was cleared up when we see the Puppet STUFF the souls of the murdered children into the suits. The only one that was quite literally stuffed was likely Charlotte which is shortly before William targets the daughter of Henry as a form of revenge, who we also know was not stuffed but rather had the animatronic near her when she died.
Whoever is in the grave must be one of those victims, I think the child who was lured away was the kid that became Bonnie and the one that is buried is the last one, Cassidy.
The grave isn't just a secret, it's the grave OF a secret, the one who inhabits Golden Freddy.
Interesting stuff. I really appreciate that your process involves trying to poke holes in your own theories as you go along. Good critical eye. In this case we don't have a complete theory to work with but there's definitely some interesting observations along the way. "Laterthatnight" is really the sticking point for me. What does that title mean? Which night?? Maybe that's the way to figure it out: cross reference the relevant nights it could be with the known locations of people and animatronics to see what we're left with.
I went into this expecting it to be another one of the thousands midnight motorist videos I see every week but this theory genuinely makes so much sense. These usually don’t make me think or feel anything I just go “eh idk seems like a stretch” on all of them but this has me convinced. Amazing video, put almost everything in a new, more sensical perspective for me
I think midnight motorist is the night after afton killed Charlie, the person in the chair is afton’s wife, yellow/orange man is afton, and the child who went to “that place” is Michael.(which is another popular theory) that place is either the grave of the crying child or fazbear. Jr’s is just a bar afton started frequenting after the death of CC and might have been barred from after a night of heavy drinking
I love how after all those years of theorycrafting with relatively limited material of FNaF lore, it became kind of science, with people taking different approaches, perspectives and interpretations, disproving old theories with new ones, poking holes in newer ones, borderline peer reviewing other's works, challenging the current axioms and revealing that they are not so obvious and certain, pulling out old but ignored by the "scientific" community evidence or even wiping the board clean and approaching the topic with completely fresh perspective.
We made FNaF lore into its own science.
this is it. this has to be it "I'll just go to his house! And if he doesn't open the door, I'll just find a window! Chimney's always a option" from the toy chica cutscene
My biggest question then is WHO is the abducted child? All victims we know of were killed at a pizzeria.
I like the idea of Cassidy, as the vengeful spirit seems way more likely to smash a window and later to seek justice from an adult who wronged them.
@@tobysinbad I also like the idea of it being Cassidy, because the other two minigames are such significant events and characters (puppet and suzie) that I feel like MM should have equal significance. Jeremy and Fritz have never had that much of a story, whereas Cassidy is basically a main character. If I were Scott designing the game I would definitely be inclined to make a minigame about Cassidy if I was also gonna cover the first missing child and the puppet. Plus I think it makes sense for Cassidy’s story to be the most well hidden, because she’s always been the most mysterious spirit, while also being very important. I just feel like Scott would want to make her game hard to find.
Whether that actually fits the lore details is another matter though, and I do not know enough to have an opinion about it. I just think it’s thematically neat.
If Funtime Freddy had captured the kid, there would only be one set of footprints bc the child is being carried. If it was SpringBonnie, the two sets make more sense, he was probably holding the kids hand to walk
Super awesome video. I think this makes a lot more sense from a story and lore perspective.
The thing that bothers me most in midnight motorist is the foot prints
Mostly because charlie is the only kid afton kills not wearing the suit
We suspected before it was because that was his first kill so he hadn't made started the golden bonnie ritual yet
Then chica being the first made that confusing
But if afton killed two children that night why would he only use bonnie for one of them?
So "later that night" referring to something other than charlie's death night does make a bit more sense
What makes it more confusing is that the MCI killer hasn't ever been wearing a suit to kill his victims.
I like the idea that all the special minigames show a murder, but we are mostly lead to believe that all Afton's murders happen at or outside of a Freddy's. So if he was just abducting children by walking around town in a suit? Idk, seems like a stretch.
he lures the kids back to the restaurant/ the correct part of the restaurant and then kills them
@@tobysinbad Seems way too complicated. Freddy's already attracts children and it's not weird for a guy to be in a suit there.
@@imaginefun13 yep it's so weird why William would wear the suit outside of the restaurant. Especially since it's raining. There's no way he'd leave footprints there because the ground would have to be muddy for it to happen.
@@tobysinbadThere’s one thing that doesn’t make sense to me: why are there only two footprints? If Afton is leading kids back to the pizzeria to kill them, why are there no footprints of his own following the child’s? It looks like someone just set up the suit and left it in one position before picking it up and carrying it away. And if the rain washed away the footprints, why are the child’s footprints still there? It just seems like the suit was left there and forgotten about before someone came back to collect it.
As soon as you mentioned that Spring Bonnie has three toes and rounded feet I realized where you were going with it, and made my own connection to the other minigames--and I have to say, I'm glad I thought on the same track as you. It makes the most sense out of all the theories I've seen!
The minigame's from the perspective of William driving home drunk after the death of his youngest son. The person at Junior's is Henry telling William that he's not allowed in; I believe this was confirmed via audio from another game. The person who escapes through the window is Michael, and the grave would then be where the youngest brother was buried.
Essentially, the youngest brother dies earlier that day which we see in a Fnaf 4 minigame, Michael grieves all day and decides to break out (likely after seeing an animatronic possessed by his brother), William arrives at Junior's drunk and emotionally compromised and is turned away by his business partner and then proceeds to drive home only to find his wife trying to dissociate watching TV and his remaining son having broken out through a window, and ending with William deciding to head to the unmarked grave to try and find Michael.
Every other theory I've seen has made very little sense and isn't supported by anything in the games; only having support from certified non-canon (to the main universe) books. This one by I forget who is much more grounded and is supported by an audio tape I believe from Sister Location but I could be wrong on which game, as well as the house being illustrated as the same one from Fnaf 4.
i was thinking this too. it just makes a little more sense, but the whole crying child possessing an animatronic seems a bit strange, unless the whole cassidy and crying child possess golden freddy thing is still valid
@@SilentBeaver Yeah I think it's more likely that it's this rather than anything else, with 2 spirits inside of fredbear instead of just one.
@@lazylime8046 i'm really iffy on the whole 2 spirits inside of golden freddy to be honest. it just doesn't feel right, anymore. maybe back then, but not now
I like this theory but I Aldo like Funaff
A HUGE piece everyone is missing that William is only Purple when he's wearing his Security Guard uniform. This could just be him in normal clothes *later that night* after he had murdered Charlie.
omg how didn't I notice that it's night time so the grave can't be a twisted animatronic, that's smart damn
Favorite theory/ most likely to happen, out of like the 5 I’ve seen.Amazing you are very undderated keep going you’ll get very popular, and successes will hopefully come just keep going.
I always thought that the person on the couch was Henry and that the child that broke out of the house was Michael. The grave outside is for the crying child. William Afton being the yellow-orange guy makes sense because isn't the "purple guy" only purple because he's usually in shadows? Michael is only purple later on because his body began to rot.
Maybe the story is that William was supposed to watch over Charlie while Henry watched over Michael. However, William was depressed and drunk after the death of his youngest son so when he saw Charlie he killed her. Henry was unaware of this which is why he's still at the Afton's house babysitting. When you think about it isn't it strange that Charlie's father wasn't at the restaurant when she was locked out? Usually, parents keep an eye out for their children unless they trusted a close friend or family to do their job for them. Maybe Henry asked William to babysit Charlie and then take her home since her mother was there. I also say that because I'm pretty sure the file name for the person watching the TV is called a man. Since it's called later that night it's probably later the same night of Charlie's death.
Now as for Michael breaking out of the house and what animatronic he saw I don't know. But I highly doubt that the child is dead since William says "He will be sorry when he comes back." Michael isn't dead and shouldn't be dead anytime soon. Most likely William ends up tracking him down and then moves his room to the FNaF 4 room. That's why the room has so many cameras in it and why in Sister Location you can see that it's still in the FNaF 4 house. After Michael's stunt of breaking the window and running away, he was moved to a room where he would always be monitored. I think that's also why the nightmare animatronics are there. Think about it- the crying child's room only had 1 door and yet the FNaF 4 room has 2. That wasn't the crying child's room. I believe that the minigames and gameplay in FNaF 4 aren't from the same pov. The mini games with the crying child are from his perspective but the main gameplay is Michael. Rather they're how William is punishing Michael after what he did to his younger brother.
JRs if I remember correctly is called a restaurant so it's probably the old location mentioned in FNaF 2. Charlie was probably killed at Fredbear's which is why it closed down. A child died inside and outside the establishment and Charlie's death couldn't be portrayed as an accident.
In the FNaF 2 minigame version of her passing the building is incredibly small so it's probably the original location. After her death, the Security Puppet was moved to JRs.
The reason why William can't go into JRs is that the death of the crying child lead to a criminal investigation. Since he's being investigated he can't go inside the building. That may be why the MCI incident happens. To spite the security he kills 5 children in JRs and stuffed them in the suits. By the time that happens the puppet was already there which is why the Give Gifts Give Life mini-game occurs.
I looked up a video of the Toy Chica UCN cutscenes because Afton (Toy Chica) flat out states his methods of luring the kids away in them, and a house is talked about during the Puppet (Charlie) cutscene. William remarks about going to her house, and if she didn't answer the door he would use a window or the chimney to get her attention.
I bring this up because I'm not sure if it was supposed to help solve Midnight Motorist, or retcon it, especially as the Toy Chica cutscene seems to clash with the FNaF 2 and Security Puppet mini games in terms what those show. Although, you could go with the outlandish idea of Afton getting the kids to lock the door and debiliate the puppet in order for him to murder Charlie, after luring her to the pizzaria, without anyone knowing.
I have a big problem the concept that the fnaf6 minigames depicting william's victim and that is the inconsistency of how they show it. Both security puppet and fruity maze are pretty clear with what they are trying to tell us. Security puppet is about Charlie's death and possesion of the puppet and Fruity maze is about Sussie's death and the beginning of the MCI.
Now MM is not as direct with the lore it gives us. Unlike the other two you have go outside of the main minigame to access the important section. This means that the second part of MM most be of high importance. But who of William victims is so important to warrent this secrecy? It can't be Cassidy, the runnaway kid is referred as 'HIM'. I don't think could be one of the other MCI kids, they were clearly killed at Freddy's.
If I've to speculate I think the minigame is connected to Elizabeth. Security Puppet is the origin of the Puppet which in PS is inside Lefty, Fruity Maze is connected to William Afton as it was the first time he killed wearing the spring bonnie suit which he is now trapped in. And because we already have Sister Location and it really isn't a trap soul Molten Freddy doesn't have a minigame. Which leaves us with Elizabeth a character that probably does deserve the secrecy and ambiguity of the MM.
Personally, I believe RyeToast’s theory that you play as Afton after Feed The Children, but the person in the chair is his wife and the person who left was Michael, going to his brother’s grave.
As for why William’s orange, I think that represents when he’s not actively doing anything wrong. It’s like a mask (plus, it could be a reference to his dialogue in FNAF 4)
What if the kid abducts is cassidy explaining why cassie is so angry because he was already an abusive household so some form of trauma and then he was killed by afton but that's just a theory.
Thst makes some sense. He ran off to freddys or was taken there since the mci is a freddys incident
Cassidy is a girl though
Does anyone ever mention that yellow and purple are complementary colors? Midnight Motorist Guy is more orange-y, but I think that can be attributed to wanting to keep the color palette a certain way, bright yellow would look too cheery/out of place.
I have no clue what the hell that could mean though. Following through on that line of logic, Green Guy could be the counterpart of Old Man Consequences, since he's red, and that's just silly. The color of the person just irks me, it's not even close to Fredbear/Spring Bonnie, they're yellower.
To give you some help since I own a copy of the twisted ones, the hole would have to be made of three overlapping square holes to be where a twisted one buried itself for the day. This was uncovered by the main cast in connection with Twisted Freddy's multiple appearances in the book as he left this bizarre patterned hole set in several locations only to emerge from them later. The wolf however seems to hide in forestry and hates it's purpose of abduction so perhaps the wolf made a friend to spite it's maker. It is weird though how yellow man KNOWS that the runaway will return, given there's no proof they maybe able to.
I love this theory and I think you're right. I'd also like to add that if Orange Guy is William why is he referring to his place of business as "that place"? Wouldn't he just say Freddy's or whatever the name of the current location is? "He'll be sorry when he gets back." If this were William wouldn't he be co-owner of the establishment? Just go get him? Shouldn't he in theory have the keys to the place?
That being said, the reason people also associate midnight motorist to William is also the yellow guy being bared from Juniors. To what extent they thought this through, I’m unsure, but this does add a bit of context to your explanation of why people think this.
To my knowledge the line of logic is
>Later that night has to refer to some event
>Security Puppet shows tire tracks from Afton leaving
>Security Puppet is another angle of SAVE HIM where Afton has a purple car
>throughout FNaF6 the Fazbear representative is shown with either a purple suit and orange tie/skin or vice versa creating a correlation
And optionally, depending on if you believe Jr's isn't a random bar
>If Jr's has meaning it's most likely FNaF 2's location as that's the only time there's been a junior themed location(FNaF 2 had Kids Cove) and the only time that banning someone from a building has been mentioned in the series(especially concerning any Previous Employees(aka Afton) Night 6)
I 100% agree and have thought this for the longest time now! Thank you for making this!
Is yellow guy Henry and the purple guys family was actually Henry’s?
Henry is the yellow guy (co-owner and in the yellow Fredward suit)
The only desth that happens is Charlotte, turning into the puppet, this was unintentional
The guy on the couch is the only other actual staff member that later influences phoneguy in the games, he was the greetet and janitor
Him is William, Henry does not know his daughter is dead and was still out looking for her.
J.R.s was Fredwards foodhole before Charlotte went missing and was sold in a firesale. Henry can't go in as it's no longer his, the police found no evidence and J.R.s is in the midst of mass refurbishing, hence all the cars and it being open at night. The nightguard here influences Fredwards 1, its why be canonically dies, in the games, loosely made inuniverse by Scunt Cunthorne.
SMH. Henry locked William in the room and locked the springs so he couldn't leave the suit. The smallfootprints are the puppet following William. It does not like rain and so is on its tendrils on the ground and holding an umbrella
Also no. Children souls do not infect robots. This is an arcade game in Fredwards PLC, that has stand up machines with all of the main games but long lines and a VR cabinet
Yeah I noticed the flaw with it being a twisted one since it was taking place at night, a counter point would the game starts at midnight and the animatronic could have just buried itself. Though the fact that the character doesn't react to the mound suggests it something that been there and the guy was aware of it. Though if they didn't refer to the child as a him then the mound could have been Susie's dead dog buried there and the mini game could been how she got lured to the pizza place.
Colonel Mustard says “he” tho
@@tobysinbad I know, it would have been cool if Colonel Mustard didn't.
Afton wants to make kids happy with his animatronics after all. He steals sad kids whose parents are neglecting them which is why all his bots are programmed to capture just such a child. He then makes the child a part of the Fazbear family to sing and dance forever. Their happiest day over and over
I think you were on to something as we know springlocks act as animatronics and suits. It could be that Afton actually sent out the animatronic version of SpringBonnie to kidnap this kid. Now in the twisted novel especially in the visual (or graphic always get those confused) it is shown that the way the twisted animatronics kidnapped people was by stuffing them inside their springlock suits. We see this in the books that later when Charlie let her self-get kidnapped the robot then buried itself. Now we could have something like this happening that halfway through the walk to Freddy's the SpringBonnie suit noticed to begin to rain it then scooped up the kid inside of itself and buried itself under that mound of dirt we see. When walking over that area. Basically, if this is correct that child is still alive when we arrive home.
Sidenote in the novels they are just holes but it was shown that in the novels a foxy twisted animatronic still attacked Charlie during the day. Meaning under the right circumstances they can still attack during the day and night.
I think the mini game shows Michael Afton’s home life after his original family is torn apart. The yellow guy is his new stepfather. The footprints outside the window are Springtrap’s. William is guiding Michael back to the sister location each night to put Elizabeth/Baby back together, which we know he ends up doing.
I like your theory that Afton was the one who left the prints by the window in his Spring Bonnie suit, though I have a different theory on the mound of dirt. Like you said, Afton couldn't have been in the rain in the suit, as the springlocks would fail. So what if he lures and knocks out or kills the kid BEFORE it started raining (it wasn't raining while yellow guy is driving on the freeway) so when it started he took off the suit and quickly mounded up some dirt and leaf debris on top of it to hide it since he couldn't have carried both the suit AND the kid's body out of the woods at the same time. He was probably planning on coming back to get it later.
And this could tie back to FNAF 2, since if he DID bury the suit overnight while it rained, the streaks of mud on it might have been what clued Phone Guy in that someone had being using the suit to the lure the missing kids.
I find it interesting that everyone assumes the person who left through the window was a child, though I imagine that is largely due to the "this is my house" rant sounding like an angry father. But if you look at 5:24 in this video you can clearly see that the print size/stride match the adult sprite. Maybe it's not a kidnapping, maybe it's an escape.
Here's my crazy theory:
- "Mustard man" is Henry. This is the snake and the kittens scenario, from Candy Cadet. Afton has already killed once but Henry can't bring himself to turn in his friend, even if the victim was his own daughter. Maybe Afton managed to spin some convincing lie, claimed it was an accident, or guilt-tripped Henry about the '83 bite somehow being his fault.
- The secret grave is Charlotte's, buried near Henry's house so he can visit her as we do in the minigame.
- Henry has been driven to drink by this, to the point he's being turned away.
- In an effort to protect other kids and shield his friend, Henry has forced Afton to come live with him so he can keep an eye on him. And keep his door open to show he isn't up to something.
- The figure in the chair is Henry's wife who has been watching Afton on some pretense she was told, being sympathetic to him because she doesn't know the truth.
- The three-toed print is from the Spring Bonnie suit in animatronic mode, come to collect its wearer. (Much like we call Glamrock Freddy in SB) It breaks the window so he can leave in secret and Afton then walks off beside it, waiting until later to change it into suit mode as it has begun to rain.
- "That place" is Afton's new mad scientist lab where he has begun to study his unintentional creation, with Henry being too upset by his daughter's death to realize the importance of what happened to the puppet. Maybe Afton sees a way to a better life for his own brain-damaged son, maybe he sees an avenue to eternal life for himself, or maybe he is mad science-ing for mad science's sake, who knows. He just needs a few more test subjects...
- The timeline would then go: Puppet minigame leads to Midnight Motorist leads to Fruity Maze. (Or: An act of malice leads to a sinister discovery leads to a cold-blooded attack of opportunity.)
But hey, that's just a theory. A gaaaaame-- Okay, I'll see myself out.
I feel like it'd be weird for us to see and be introduced to a character that we never see again especially if the main reason we see them is to show or tell us something we already knew about. It makes no sense especially sense every known victim of Afton's is associated with a Fazbear location if this is Afton than it breaks it because than this person has no connection at all to Freddy's at all.
i like the video but i think you should consider using a program called Levelator to level out your audio and make it sound crisper, it’s free. love the videos!!
Interesting take, though I think there are more connections between Afton and mustard man than you think, namely the implied relationship between midnight motorist and security puppet. It's not a lot but we see that when Charlie is killed outside it is dark, it is raining and there are car tire tracks next to her body which really didn't have to be there unless it was to make a point. We then see the purple car speeding away on a rainy night in midnight motorist, with the following scene being labled "later that night" in the code. Lastly I think it's Michael Afton in the living room watching his immortal and the restless and because of his text and shirt colour. Is this proof? No, I wouldn't say so, but I do think these point to it being Afton and why people made that connection.
IMO Afton has already killed some kids which is why the security puppet is installed, why he's turned away from a junior fnaf location (phone guy says employees are being investigated and can't come to work at one point), why he has to kill Charlie outside and why there are wanted posters in the alleyway because someone probably has a vague description of the murder suspect but not enough to actually know Afton is the murderer. He's angry at Henry for questioning/kicking him from the company so he kills Charlie in 1983 and we see that the crying child is alive still (but dies later that year) and that he has broken his window - that's why in FnaF 4 he's been moved to a room without a window and is being surveild. Anyway that's why I personally thinks it's William Afton.
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Idea: the grave is the grave of the child who just got lured away - hidden grave, Afton hid the body there, we don’t know when this occurs - if
You look at the glitchtrap suit it’s hand sewn costume, no machinery just a suit, he could be using that. Afton has to come during the rain, otherwise he wouldn’t leave footprints
Honestly, high odds it's post-bite CC's grave.
CC is the least likely to have a secret grave though imo- he died either at the restaurant in front of everyone or in hospital. In either case, the body would be with the proper authorities and nobody would get the chance to sneak his body into a random wood
Illusion disk robots don't just pick what they'll appear as to other people, it's the human mind that connects the dots
I think the biggest holes are the lack of acknowledgement of what the father in this theory says, "He's gone back to that place again" this has happened more than once,
the second biggest hole for me is Jr's I don't think it's just some random bar, it's on the bottom of the screen which goes away from the screen which could mean the father went somewhere and is now coming back, "Laterthatnight".
But you know where else we see a purple car? Fnaf 2 minigame, Afton drives up and murders a kid outside the resteraunt.
Afton comes back home later that night, the person at the tv could be the crying child's brother with the foxy mask and the child that was abducted is probably crying child, as for the the 3 toed footprints, I'm stumped I admit. But I think "that place" is sister location and the grave is a makeshift grave for Elizabeth
Honestly, Michael being Couch Guy really makes no sense. CC being the runaway makes no sense. It doesnt fit them whatsoever.
Michael is more likely to BE the runaway, now the grave being Elizabeth's? While it doesnt fit in how i've read the Timeline, not a bad thought. Personally, if this is after Charlie's murder, it'd be CC's own Grave.
Michael is 100% the sort to lock a door, smash a window, and book it, fuck the Authority. And such...
@@higueraft571 Thinking of it, CC is probably the one watching the TV, watching his favourite show to decompress
@@Kan_in ...CC is a child. That's a grown man.
@@higueraft571 could be because of the art style, the couch is quite big compared to him
And who else would have a rough day? That would be associated with Afton that has short hair
THANK YOU FOR SAYING SPRING BONNIE. I have legit been thinking that it was Spring Bonnie since I first saw those footprints
Can't be Spring Bonnie as it is raining. The spring locks would have failed killing the person inside.
@@AcridGoblin it would have been before the rain
I always saw it as a father of a victim kid that Afton kills.
I love fuhnaffs theories cause they seem out of pocket but he does say some legitimate interesting points
You and sire squawks have two great interpretations it's hard to choose which one is my head Canon.
could yellow guy be henry?
the mound being his daughter who became the puppet..?
i’m just spitballing now
Henry doesn't have a son. So I don't think it can be.
The fact we have to preface theories now with "dont harass the person im disputing" shows to me we forgot that theorizing is supposed to be about discussion as a community and that disproving stuff is how we progress, instead of acting like these are sports teams that youre loyal to.
I just wish this could be simpler.
The whole "AFTON REBUILDS HIS KID AS A REMNANT/AGONY INFUSED ANIMATRONIC CYBORG!"
Why can't it just be murderers, haunted robots and vengeful spirits...
Where the "secret grave" is, the outline around looks like a building used to be there
Afton could always be using a costume and not a spring lock. Maybe it wouldn’t be exactly how it looked in help wanted but something like that
If monsier mustard is Suzie’s dad as some ppl here are suggesting, maybe his terrible driving killed the dog, which would explain why it had a secret grave. The kid who ran away would still need to be a brother though, bc orange man says “he” and Suzie was already at the arcade cabinet at Freddie’s when Afton approached her.
Proposal orange guy is Afton because his skin isn't actually purple its just his shadow cause in the Atari age of games we could not haveblack shadows because the back round is black so Scott made him purple instead. second aftons skin color is a yellow because he was born in Utah cause the Freddy's location is in Hurricane Utah and we were told that in the books.
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I like the idea that this is the family of one of afton's victims, not afton, the best. But if it was william afton's family could the person in the chair be his wife, the son locked in his room be michael, and the mystery grave be evan's (buried privately after the bite so as not to draw any more negative attention to the restaurant)?
I have my own theory:
I agree that this is a victims house, but actually Susie’s. It could explain why no one was there when Susie’s dog died, because this dad was drunk driving. This explains the random dirt mound it a secret area, it’s Susie’s dog. Not to mention later that day, as it’s literally later that day of Susie’s disappearance.
The problem is that her supposed big brother refered her as a he but she's a girl so it's not Suzie or Charlie because the victim is a boy so Freddy, Bonnie, Foxy are possible but it's probably Cassidy because he's the one you shouldn't have killed, also Cassidy from UCN has no gender confirmed so i think it's Cassidy
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I don't think it's that solid to say that the link to orange guy being Afton is weak. In addition to the purple car, there's the fact that the shape of the house resembles the FNAF4 menu house shape.
I do think that if orange guy is Afton, there's no way gray person is Michael. It makes NO sense for Michael to tell his father to do anything, and would the same guy who says about one child "He'll be sorry when he gets back." would let his other child tell him what to do without making THEM sorry for stepping out of line?
I don't think so. Gotta be the wife. Only a wife would have the standing required to tell an angry man that they live with what to do. Even then, it's weird that he doesn't respond. Who knows, this minigame is a mess and a half.
I commented on some of the implications of FuhNaff's theory, and i'm going to do it again here
I think this could be the abduction of Susie (the missing child who inhabits chica), thus explaining the grave as the dog's grave that was then desecrated by afton to fill Mangle. There's still no explanation for the rain, but being "Later that Night" from Fruity maze, which appears before it by 1 slot on the catalog, also solves some issues.
I thought of this too, but the child here is a boy and Susie is a girl.
Well we know it couldn't be a spring lock suit because it raining and it would have triggered the spring locks.
If presuming that Afton stole the child during the events of later that night and it was rain it could be possible that instead of the spring lock suit he used the suit he hand made shown in fnaf vr
i believe Midnight Motorist is happening “later that night” of when William killed Charlotte Emily
I've been yelling that it's Spring Bonnie for years now!
The footprints are visible because it rained and turned mostly to mud, and the footprints would only form if something was walking around during or after the rain. but, it's still raining when orange/yellow guy finds the footprints. Unless anyone wants to argue that I don't know how dirt/mud works perhaps?
Depending on how deep the pocket is its not unreasonable that the footprints would still be there for some time even when it's still raining. And if it's an animatronic then the feet would be pretty heavy or even if it's Ol Willy having to stand there for a while as his feet sink.
I know this is much before its time but what if it was Gregory? Glamrock freddy has 3 toes and round feet, plus, following Gregory’s timeline, it would make sense for yellow guy to say he “went off to that place again; being the Pizzaplex. As for the grave, im not sure. Iw as thinking the locked box with the “real” dead gregory (assuming he’s a robot) but im not sure. Not sure how plausible it is but hey its something.
Both of the kids in the family are dead. Yellow Guy is William. Person on the couch is ACTUALLY William’s Wife. And the kid running is actually Micheal, running to his brother grave
i havent met him but i sassed him on twitter and he was chill. fu nah is awesome. i dont always agree with him but he is good at explaining his chaos vibes.
What gets me is, the child left a trtail of footprints but the animatronic only left two prints. I don't think the animatronic could break the window without leaving tracks, so I don't think the animatronic broke the window. The child would not have broken their own window unless...yellow guy locked the child inside their room. At the same time, it makes no sense for the child to see a motionless animatronic outside their window and proceed to bust out their window and run right past it. It also doesn't make any sense for there to be no animatronic footprints following behind the child's footprints. I can't think of any other explanation other than the animatronic was motionless outside for a long time and someone physically picked it up and moved it to and from that spot.
My issue with this is whereas the Funaff theory is trying to tie everything together; this theory instead states that barley anything is relevant and has no real meaning. Jr's is just a random bar, the person on the sofa is irrelevant, and the child and the yellow guy have no greater meaning unlike the other characters we see in these minigames
It can’t be spring Bonnie though cause of the rain as we know spring lock animatronics will lock the user if it gets wet and I don’t think the kid was being lured to be killed because yellow guy mentions he’s sneaking off to that place meaning he’s been to certain place before which is so weird idk could be William was wearing glitchtrap suit if it’s actually ever existed since we don’t know if it was ever real or just something created in the game
Finally! I've always been VERY unsure on the theory that Yellow guy is Afton. It just doesn't make any sense. Your theory makes so much more sense!
(No hate on FuhNaff, the "Yellow guy is Afton" theory has been around before he said it)
But it has to be William. Same vehicle as the fnaf 2 mini game. The game is called later that night and what would be the point.
Also the mci victim house doesn't make sense because it's assumed that the mci is a freddy location incident, if someone was taken from thier home then it's just children going missing with no relation to freddys
Hard to say. But it could be after the FNAF 3 fire. Maybe after Springtrap is near killed he wanders off and finds a child. Maybe luring them and killing them to harvest Remnant and 'recharge' himself. Sort of like Pennywise feeding on a child. He either lures him out or breaks in. The child then runs outside and away but we don't see signs of pursuit. So hard to tell. The pile of dirt could be said child after the murder. Unknown to orange man.
This is going off the Afton animatronic idea here.
Finally! Someone who doesn't think that yellow guy is William! Thank you!
Okay, I like this one. This is a Midnight Motorist theory I can get behind.
I don’t mean to sound mean, but I never understood why people are willing to believe Yellow Guy is supposed to be the same guy who has consistently been depicted with a purple silhouette and otherwise been associated with the color purple. Even in his cameo in _FNAF4,_ where (at the time of release at least) he didn’t have anything (immediately apparent) to do with the main story, you know it’s him because he’s a purple silhouette with white pupils on dark eyes, while all the other characters in the Atari cutscenes are pretty detailed by FNAF standards. (I’m convinced the main reason Michael is allowed to be “Literally-Purple Guy” is because he’s not a silhouette - he’s still wearing clothes.) That, and, while I absolutely believe William was an awful father, we’ve never been given any indication of him being a violent drunk. It just seemed like a really counterintuitive theory base to me.
My only issue with your theory - and I’m just saying this for the sake of being thorough - is that it seems odd to me for William to stand outside someone’s house in his Spring Bonnie suit, especially going so far as to break the kid’s window (there’s no glass on the ground. It had to have been broken from outside) just to lure him to a murder spot. I know he’s very committed to his fursona, but wearing a FazEnt staff-exclusive costume outside company property? Even if he is the cofounder, I’m not sure people would see that and not think it’s weird.
Then again, Will doesn’t really have much of a history with subtlety. I promise I do like your theory. (It kinda would be nice to know what “that place” is, but Lord knows there’s no solving everything in this series, so oh well 🤷♀️)
The ignorance to game theories videos on this is wild but I do like your ideas and points you made good video over all
the midnight motorist background footage made my eyes blurry for some reason
Supposing this theory is correct, it would make sense to assume the grave is the resting grounds for yellow guy's wife. There is no presence of a mother in the house where there are 2 children, which is odd in and of itself, but it would also explain yellow guy's alcoholism.
Only problem with the theory is, why would it be significant to mention this child? It just doesn't seem to have a purpose to be in the game.
I think it’s funny how people assumed it’s William because of the purple car, except your car is the only one that is NOT purple. Like it’s pinkish while the rest are purple
People assume it's William because they think the guy's color is identical to his text color in the end of FNAF 4 when the Crying Child died.
I don't think we can at all say that we play as crying child in fnaf 4. Michael draws the nightmares. Pretty closed case.
Also as to how orange guy became William dont quote me but I think matpat might be to blame.
I like Funaff. I thought the main argument for yellow guy being William was that yellow guy was the same colour as William Afton’s font?
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Could the drunk driver in midnight motorist have hit and killed and secretly buried Suzie’s dog, and LATER THAT NIGHT tried to go back to the bar???
The mini game is literally about speeding down a highway in the dark, I think he might be the one who killed Suzies dog. And a drunk driver wouldn’t stay to console a little girl, he’d gtfo
Hits and kills the dog, buries it secretly, upset/sobering up after this event, tried to go back to the bar to drink some more and forget killing the dog, he’s cut off and goes home, and his son is gone.
Maybe the kidnapped kid is the girl we see in the other arcade minigame
The one were we see spring bonny behind the reflection of the girl
Would make sense since the feet would match, and the secret grave could be the grave of her dead pet that we see in the other arcade game, and hence why she's sad.
Maybe all the arcade games in Pizzeria Simulator are connected with each other.
But why would she be a mci victim if she didn't go missing at a freddy location
My question is, if the abduction started before it was raining why do the footprints look so fresh in the mini game?
and with afton taking the children can be his experiments w agony or reminant
Do you think Orange Guy could be Henry? The grave could be his daughter's? I don't think the timing works though. But maybe
The game is called "later that night"