Molding A VERY Complex Object. Is It Even Possible? Part 1.

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  • @JohnJones-oy3md
    @JohnJones-oy3md 3 года назад +37

    Hey, can you mold/cast this incredibly intricate skull?
    Me: "Oh hell no. Impossible."
    Robert: "Hold my beer"

    • @annekabrimhall1059
      @annekabrimhall1059 3 года назад +2

      😂🤣😂

    • @levinebette15
      @levinebette15 3 года назад +1

      “Hold my water”

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +15

      It’s easy, just use the fighter pilot’s prayer, “Please God, don’t let me screw this up!”

    • @runin1wild
      @runin1wild 3 года назад +4

      No way! Next week 😢! I’m going to have to start breaking up the videos to last the week til the next one comes out! I’m having withdraws already! 🥴

    • @surgerystudio7654
      @surgerystudio7654 Год назад +1

      Robert you are AMAZING!!!! I just watched both videos for this part and I’m always so impressed by your skills and patience. It’s a gift, I promise cause my molds are ALWAYS terrible 😭😭😭

  • @annekabrimhall1059
    @annekabrimhall1059 3 года назад +8

    That is extraordinarily ambitious! We’re going to need a beginner series sometime.

  • @securityrobot
    @securityrobot 3 года назад +8

    That’s a lot of thought and decision making in the preparatory stages, so many vents too. Looking forward to the casting next week.

  • @roger.agburn
    @roger.agburn 3 года назад +2

    This time I wanna post the first comment. ;)
    Just saw the upload in time, cause I am on holiday.
    But will comment again, after I watched it.

  • @Ilostmycactus
    @Ilostmycactus 2 года назад

    Why is the resin print insufficient for a model? Why cast it?

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  2 года назад

      There is nothing insufficient about a resin print. This is a mold making and resin casting channel. I did it to demonstrate techniques for casting a complex and difficult object.

  • @PaleoHuntr
    @PaleoHuntr 3 года назад +6

    Ahh, you started him! I'm so excited to see how you do this, I'm already blown away by your workflow! Can't wait for next week

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +2

      I’ve been looking forward to this project for a long time. With anticipation and trepidation!

  • @custommodelmaking4969
    @custommodelmaking4969 3 года назад +1

    trying to make a mold for a similar complexity object. This video helped me a great deal tyvm!

  • @sonipitts
    @sonipitts 3 года назад +4

    100% here to enjoy you rolling off terms like "theropod" and "tyrannosauridae" like they're items on a Sunday brunch menu. Always love a channel that doesn't talk down to the viewer!

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      Glad you enjoy the videos. Thanks!

  • @robinson-foundry
    @robinson-foundry 3 года назад

    Thank you for making this. I was thinking about trying to make a silicone mold of a very similar skull. I'm so glad I didn't attempt it. After watching this I know it would have been a disaster.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Seems to me that If we made lost wax castings from these molds you could cast this skull in silver or bronze. That would be very cool!

    • @robinson-foundry
      @robinson-foundry 3 года назад

      @@RobertTolone I would love to do that! Hopefully we can make that happen.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      @@robinson-foundry Great! Contact me at roberttolone@yahoo.com

  • @DoctorNOS
    @DoctorNOS 3 года назад

    Why not do the filling in inside the 3D model program?

    • @andy-in-indy
      @andy-in-indy 3 года назад

      It is easier to remove the parts added by wax than it is to remove parts of a 3D print. That makes it easier to demold the original, and reduces the chance that it is damaged during that process.
      There are some areas that I might have added a sheet to close the holes in the model before it was printed (e.g. the pathways in the jaws that he filled with clay) but the original artist/paleontologist would not have likely planned on that as it would be more important to them that the model was as accurate to the original as possible over making it easy to cast.

    • @DoctorNOS
      @DoctorNOS 3 года назад

      @@andy-in-indy I guess my question may have been misunderstood?
      If you added the parts in the cad model for the teeth and the other cavities it would have 3D printed just fine created less work later. Or am I missing something?

    • @PaleoHuntr
      @PaleoHuntr 3 года назад +1

      @@DoctorNOS I sculpt anatomically accurate skulls for 3D printing, and that was the case for this skull. I model in every detail I can and deal with the issues that creates when I print them, usually lots of support material removal. Robert and I talked about the cavities in the lower jaw and he advised me to leave them as they were so that is what we did. But you are correct it would have been quick work to fix this in the software, but I trust Robert for the wizard he is.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +2

      If I am making the 3D model I prep everything for casting, sometimes I also add the vents, sprue, etc. For this model we collaborated and Jesse cut the model into pieces for molding. I didn't notice the cavities in the model until I had it in hand. So I filled in with clay. It worked out fine.

    • @DoctorNOS
      @DoctorNOS 3 года назад

      @@RobertTolone that’s awesome. I’ve been watching so many of your videos I am dreaming about them now. Lol. Good stuff.

  • @wolfreicherter748
    @wolfreicherter748 3 года назад +1

    You Sir, are a true professional

  • @sierraecho884
    @sierraecho884 2 года назад +1

    Niiiice clear mould

  • @Exzeteos
    @Exzeteos 2 года назад +1

    22:44 Nice Justin Wilson callback, I guar-an-tee!

  • @Packless1
    @Packless1 Год назад

    ...complex mechanical engeneering- parts can be made by lost-wax-casting...!
    ...but that's a heck of know-how to do it right...!

  • @emilyrealname634
    @emilyrealname634 3 года назад +1

    Grrrreat video! Ive had cure inhibition issues with SLA prints like that. Did you use a tin cure silicone for these molds? Where do you suggest to get tin cure silicone rubber in bulk?

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      I always use tin-based silicone when molding 3D prints. I buy EconoSil 25 from www.silpak.com in 40 pound kits. It’s a soft and flexible tin-based silicone.

  • @debrajol3585
    @debrajol3585 3 года назад +2

    Wow .. now that is a biggie project!! So glad you take us along for the ride. Can’t wait to see what happens next week 🤞🙀🙌💯💯

  • @skulptor
    @skulptor 3 года назад +1

    Scary. Not the dinosaur, the process..

  • @pappafritto
    @pappafritto 5 месяцев назад

    Omg you know what this video is? ITS A TREASURE

  • @IdRatherBeMaking
    @IdRatherBeMaking 3 года назад +3

    I love the tape trick, I will use that method in the future. It looks like using tape might allow you to skip a step and not wax the wood. I suppose you could also use the aluminum tape they use to seal HVAC systems. I use it for a ton of things, the adhesive sticks like crazy and the aluminum is super durable.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      Great idea about the aluminum tape. I usually use 2 inch plastic packing tape.

  • @nagyesszep
    @nagyesszep 3 года назад

    I wish someone would put a Liiiiitle-bit-of sticky wax on MY bottom...😔

  • @damianpark236
    @damianpark236 3 года назад +1

    Rob , another ripper mate.

  • @h7opolo
    @h7opolo 3 года назад +1

    muoy excellente

  • @zrebbesh
    @zrebbesh 2 года назад

    Theropod dinosaurs are basically birds with teeth instead of beaks.

  • @louiegarcia7992
    @louiegarcia7992 Год назад

    what kind of wax is that? where did you get it from?
    and what tool is that you're melting the wax with?

  • @levinebette15
    @levinebette15 3 года назад +3

    I’m loving the windows!

    • @annekabrimhall1059
      @annekabrimhall1059 3 года назад +1

      I think everybody is! He just stumbled across that and now it’s the best way to do it.

  • @louiegarcia7992
    @louiegarcia7992 Год назад

    What the wax vent for molding what's the name of it and where did you get it from?

  • @nagyesszep
    @nagyesszep 3 года назад

    I wish someone was big time into goobering MY molds up...😔

  • @SG-eo3oy
    @SG-eo3oy 2 года назад

    you are giving alot of knowledge for free. thank you.

  • @amilcarmiguel7274
    @amilcarmiguel7274 3 года назад +1

    PARABÉNS, MUITO DIDÁTICO E MUITO BEM EXPLICADO. OBRIGADO.
    👍🇧🇷 LONDRINA , BRASIL.

  • @deanmpatton
    @deanmpatton 3 года назад +1

    Great video as always Robert. With all of the sprues and vents in this project, have you ever experimented with sprue diameter and it's relationship to the resin's viscosity (cps)? I feel like you've dialed in the right sprue diameter for your resin of choice.

    • @EV4UTube
      @EV4UTube 3 года назад

      I'd like to know this answer too. I'm inclined to make my sprues fairly thin (its air passing thru after all), but i always make the sprue CONNECTIONS (junctions) quite beefy.
      I've seen in some sand/metal casting that they use "blind sprues" (which don't escape to the exterior) and I've wondered if something similar could be used for resin casting.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      It is a critical relationship. Not just because of the viscosity of the resin but also the size of the cavity. The air vents can be very thin; I make them bigger than necessary because you have to cut each one open to release the casting.
      The resin inlet sprue diameter must be just big enough to allow the resin to easily and quickly fill the cavity. If it is too small the mold might not fill before the resin gels. Too big and it is a pain to clean up. I have never been able to come up with a formula, I just go by experience and feel.

  • @mickybetts7957
    @mickybetts7957 3 года назад

    Hi, just recently discovered your channel. Great videos! Had a binge watch and subscribed! .. I'm wondering, that hot wax tool you use, do you think a cheapie polystyrene foam cutter tool would work? They look similar. 🤔

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      Depends on how hot the polystyrene cutter is. Wax melts at a relatively low temperature which is why soldering irons don’t work as wax tools. The lowest temperature setting burns up the wax.

  • @artkaufman595
    @artkaufman595 Год назад

    A couple of questions about Sculpey. First, why use it to fill in instead of oil clay? Second, do you think Sculpey is acceptable for making funnels? That is, if there isn't any inhibition issue; I know that un-baked Sculpey can eat some plastics so it's got some interesting chemicals in it.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  Год назад

      Oil clay would have worked just as well. The best way to know if you will have cure inhibition is to test your materials. If your rubber works with it then sculpey would be fine for making funnels.

  • @jezfish1
    @jezfish1 3 года назад

    Once again a brilliant video Robert, Thank You. As a matter of interest, how long did it take you from receiving the 3d print to pouring the final silicone at the end of the video? This looks like a good 5 or 6 days work? Best Regards Jez

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      This project was 2 full weeks of work but shooting the video make everything so much harder and slower. If a client handed me the pieces and asked for a mold and castings I would ask for a week, but the actual job would be 2-3 days of work.

  • @neufeldr1
    @neufeldr1 3 года назад

    I don't know if you've done a video like this before, but do you know of a way to cast something on top/around another object? I'm planning on carving something with clay on top of a wooden staff, then casting it with resin, but I keep second-guessing the process I should take. any tips or advice?

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      It’s alway tricky to pot an object into a mold and pour resin around it, but it can be done. If it was a one-off project I would do the sculpture with epoxy clay and skip the molding step. If it is something you’re making multiples of, I would design the model to be cast separately and attached to the staff after casting. In other words, I would do almost anything to avoid potting the wooden staff into the mold. That’s because of the problems you will have to overcome. First, you will have to design the mold to fit around the staff tightly enough so that it does not leak. If you are a casting in urethane the resin might react with the moisture in the wood and foam. Also, the resin will shrink slightly as it cures and might crack. And finally, you will probably not be able to use pressure to cast the resin because you won’t be able to fit the staff into a tank. So you’ll have bubbles in the casting to contend with.

  • @corlenkruger464
    @corlenkruger464 3 года назад

    thankyou so much for this very insightful video , especially molding complex parts, this was a great help.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      Glad you found it helpful Corlen!

  • @markhills3922
    @markhills3922 3 года назад

    WoW....there is going to be exacto blades used in cutting this lot open Robert..... I look forward to seeing our casting teacher demonstrate his skills next week. Have fun

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Just laid in a new supply of what X-acto claims are their sharpest blades ever! 😄

  • @yugos.oficial
    @yugos.oficial 3 года назад +1

    Just amazing Robert!!👏👏👏👍👍👍

  • @roger.agburn
    @roger.agburn 3 года назад +1

    This video was awesome. The complicated part, the explanations, 3 see through mold cases, A DINOSAUR!
    And well cut, shortened where needed, super entertaining. Good job, Robert!!!

  • @verdantpulse5185
    @verdantpulse5185 3 года назад

    The vast majority of less mixed material is at the end of the pour; there's a lot to be said for pouring 80% of the material, covering most of the model and making room in the cup, re-mixing the ballance and pouring it at a distance from the model.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Yes, that's a good method. Any bubbles you get in the remixing usually rise out of the mold with no problem.

  • @chartle1
    @chartle1 3 года назад

    Thing about mixing is Smooth On directions say mix it one cup pour into another without scraping the sides and mix again. 🤷‍♂️

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Follow the manufacturer's instructions and see if it works!

  • @JPWestmas
    @JPWestmas 3 года назад

    If someone can cast something as complex as a skeleton, they can probably cast anything lol.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Haha Jason, you wouldn’t believe how many people send me projects that are completely NOT castable!

  • @wollibar5263
    @wollibar5263 3 года назад +1

    Like it a lot, eager to see who the molds will cast

    • @debrajol3585
      @debrajol3585 3 года назад +1

      Well he’s a dead guy/animal so we’ll need to send off some dna 🧬 testing done before we can know specifics 😂😂😂
      LOL.. jk with ya!!! I’m sure that dang spell correct got involved here 👌🤣

  • @rmc2414
    @rmc2414 3 года назад

    Which silicone do you prefer? Tin or Platinum?

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Depends on the job. For 90% of my work I use an inexpensive tin-based rubber. That is because it does the job and I don’t care about archiving the molds. When a job comes in that requires platinum, such as food-grade molds for restaurants, I switch to platinum.

  • @fernando749845
    @fernando749845 3 года назад +2

    Haha a couple of people downvoted this video, that is truly hilarious! 'Hilarious' as in 'what is wrong with you?'. Robert Tolone is a real treasure for sharing all his knowledge with us. You don't realize how much time this all takes.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +2

      Most of the gripes I get are that I don’t complete a project in a single video. Pisses people off that it’s in episodes.

    • @fernando749845
      @fernando749845 3 года назад

      ​@@RobertTolone Well there's a compliment in there somewhere haha! At the end of this video I was just psyched to watch the next. Thank you so much Robert!!

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      @@fernando749845 I very much appreciate it Fernando. Thanks!

  • @JohnJones-oy3md
    @JohnJones-oy3md 3 года назад

    Nature did not take into account the necessities of moldmaking when it designed this skull.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      It’s survival of the fittest, even for mold makers!

  • @danmead300
    @danmead300 3 года назад

    Another absolutely amazing addition to your channel. "Like a champ!!!" Looking forward to part II.
    If I may pick your brain, would you know why I am getting cure inhibition with beeswax and R-2128?

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      It's a platinum rubber and they are notoriously sensitive. Are you using pure beeswax? Any solvents, pigments or anything else in the wax? What is the surface you're waxing? It's possible the wax is not isolating the material enough. Only systematic testing will locate the culprit that's affecting the rubber.

    • @danmead300
      @danmead300 3 года назад +1

      @@RobertTolone wow! That was a quick response! I was using a triple filtered 100% organic beeswax on a sturdy cardboard. The product was older, and left over from a tattoo aftercare ointment I used to produce. Maybe it was cross contaminated?
      Beings that this is my first, second and third attempts at silicone and resin yesterday, I did break down last night and sacrificed some blue sprue wax to coat the mold case and it worked out fine. I'm hoping fresh beeswax will solve the issue in the future.
      I really appreciate you taking your time to reply. Your channel is awe inspiring and compelled me to start this new adventure. Your techniques bring comfort to a process that I had always percieved as overwhelming.
      Thank you so much and I hope you have a great weekend!

  • @brianlindsay9097
    @brianlindsay9097 3 года назад

    Can I ask your advice on something slightly peripheral? If you were making a mold from a 3D print, but you wanted to eliminate all layer lines because you were going to pour transparent epoxy into the mold (and you wanted it to be very clear), what would you do? Watching this episode, I wondered if you might paint/coat the model with wax to fill in all the little steps. But I'm afraid if I tried it I would just make a mess.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      I have been confronting this issue for 25 years. I’m a sculptor, mold making and resin casting is just one part of my workflow. I make toy prototypes based on characters from movies and TV shows. Everything from Star Wars to Sesame Street, Disney, Nickelodeon, etc. Most of the toys are for kids meals in fast food restaurants. Back in the bad old days in the mid 90s we would send a CAD model out to a service bureau for printing. It was extremely expensive and the print quality was never very good. So we had to print the models 5 or 10% oversized (to allow for wax shrinkage) then make a silicone mold from it. This was poured in sculptor’s wax and the entire thing finished by hand to eliminate the layer lines and other printing artifacts. I always believed that it was much faster to simply start with a block of wax than create a character using this process. By the time you did the CAD, the printing, the mold and the resculpting it was faster and cheaper to hand sculpt it.
      Resin printing has charged all that. The print quality is really amazing and the machines are cheap. The process is still labor-intensive however.
      Filament printing leaves layer lines that you either accept as part of the design or you need to remove by hand. So to finally answer your question, I would not use wax to clean up a filament print. I would use a filler or high-build sanding primer. Wax is so much softer than filament I have never been successful getting a good surface finish on parts that way. But you could try it. On their channel, Robinson Foundry cleaned up a 3d printed ape skull with wax before casting it in metal. Check that video out.

    • @brianlindsay9097
      @brianlindsay9097 3 года назад

      @@RobertTolone Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply! I am in fact outsourcing for a resin 3D print, and when I pour opaque polyurethane into molds from these, they look amazing. But I've never poured clear epoxy before - the 3D prints I get back still have the minutest of layering, and I'm concerned the transparent nature of the pour will magnify this. Or maybe I'm just over-thinking it?
      I have seen one resin printing technology with no lines whatsoever, but it is completely outside my price range
      : P

  • @thomasbinsted1873
    @thomasbinsted1873 2 года назад

    Thank you for all your excellent and informative videos. This one in particular was an exquisite casting. Would it be improper to ask what model of 3D printer the customer used to create the initial template, on the off chance they gave you that information? I'm a beekeeper trying to decide on a 3D printer to use to create templates with minimal layering to make highly detailed moulds for beeswax candles.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  2 года назад +1

      I don’t know which printer he used. Nowadays, just about any 3-D resin printer of sufficient size will give you excellent quality castings. Elegoo, Any Cubic, Phrozen are all good brands.

    • @thomasbinsted1873
      @thomasbinsted1873 2 года назад

      @@RobertTolone, many thanks.

  • @jasonrobinson252
    @jasonrobinson252 3 года назад

    Another great video, Robert. Thanks!

  • @OscarTorresWork
    @OscarTorresWork 3 года назад

    It would be better to scan it and 3d print it with resin.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      It is a scan from a real skull and a 3d resin print. Once the molds are made we can cast 2 skulls per hour. I did not ask how long it took to make the original 3-D resin print, but I know for sure it wasn’t 30 minutes!

  • @m.b.boyack2228
    @m.b.boyack2228 3 года назад

    Looking forward to Part 2 and the end result.

  • @beckaliz
    @beckaliz 2 года назад

    Yay!

  • @maverickstclare3756
    @maverickstclare3756 3 года назад +1

    next week ! Teaser :)

  • @garijarmany465
    @garijarmany465 2 года назад

    Wouldn't it be easier to 3D print the model in wax and do a lost wax casting?

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  2 года назад

      Yes, possibly. It would be an interesting time/motion study.
      But my channel is a silicone mold making, resin casting channel. That’s really my area of expertise.

    • @garijarmany465
      @garijarmany465 2 года назад

      @@RobertTolone Thanks a lot for the reply mate. I'm new to casting and have learnt a lot from your videos.

  • @adrianacruz6177
    @adrianacruz6177 3 года назад

    Love it complex . But once again its possible with your incredible master advise.

  • @petterandersson7429
    @petterandersson7429 3 года назад

    Funny....I was wanting to cast the Idaho collection.

  • @crain43
    @crain43 3 года назад

    I really want to watch the next video. great work Robert!

  • @JustCallMeMeghan
    @JustCallMeMeghan 3 года назад

    This was so fascinating, and chock full of information. Thanks Robert!

  • @flytrapjohn
    @flytrapjohn 3 года назад

    Incredible work, incredible editing, incredible tallent, incredible knowledge. Thank you for sharing with us.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching and commenting. It’s viewers like you that are driving and building this channel. I appreciate it very much!

  • @EV4UTube
    @EV4UTube 3 года назад

    AMAZING! AMAZING! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @wallersteven
    @wallersteven 3 года назад

    This was really helpful to watch. Thank you for putting out these videos!

  • @brianlindsay9097
    @brianlindsay9097 3 года назад

    You make my mold/casting challenges seem so trivial! :)

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      I watch mission specialists fly a drone ON ANOTHER PLANET and I think, "Good job Robert! You made a toy dinosaur skull this week!" Talk about trivial. 😂

  • @Vagolololo
    @Vagolololo 3 года назад

    Hello Robert! Loving your videos as usual, specially when it comes to challenges. I wanted to ask you, Can you make a video on your recipe of sticky wax? You can't leave that wonder just to yourself!

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад +1

      I buy it online, I don’t make it. www.freeman wax.com. But lots of places sell it.

    • @Vagolololo
      @Vagolololo 3 года назад

      @@RobertTolone Hmm, I don't know how I got the idea that you made it. Thanks anyway!

  • @sarahwienbergdrawing
    @sarahwienbergdrawing 3 года назад

    Hey Robert
    I’m loving your videos! The pace is brilliant you always answer and explain when I have questions. Awesome!! They are just great 👌
    I am learning so much! Thank you 🙏

    • @sarahwienbergdrawing
      @sarahwienbergdrawing 3 года назад

      Your wax melty tool (at minute 7.42)... what is it called? I think I need one...

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      @@sarahwienbergdrawing It’s a Foredom wax carving pen. There are cheaper wax pens on the market. But I have had this one for 10 years and it’s still going strong.

    • @RobertTolone
      @RobertTolone  3 года назад

      Glad you enjoy my videos. Thanks for watching Sarah!