Waaaaiiiiit does that mean apho is the past but that is kinda weird cuz bronya got a bigger chest so she looks older in apbo 2 so I'm a little confused Unless apho is straight up a bubble universe but idk I don't think mihoyo are pulling bubble universe shit again
Wow back then I thought the Carole model was just a placeholder. Seems like mihoyo does pay attention to details this time And man that Fu Hua backstory was so depressing :( I'm glad they got to reunite in the current era, albeit with different identities.
Honestly it is sad, but not to the point of dragging up any emotions. We barely knew anything about PE Carole other than the fact that Fu hua was friends with her and is dead, which is the same for 99% of all the people Fuhua knows
Sometimes people get confused whether Carole is from the future or from the past. To put it simply, she's both. The Carole from Fu Hua's past took place in the previous era while the Carole in APHO is in the future of the current era, think of it as reincarnations like Captain Himeko to Murata Himeko and Dr. MEI to Raiden Mei
1:06 "And you became a valkyrie?" "Right, the very best one!" That line and that personality reminds me of Kiana's interaction with Himeko. *im not crying im not crying im not crying*
Imagine being super shy and introvert then having this one social and lovely friend who believed in you and made you have a lot of friends, after finally being happy and gaining confidence this friend of yours just die at the moment you didn't expect the most and you weren't even able to say goodbye :')
@@Tony-qt6yp Dorm dialog is mostly non-canon to the main story. Hence why you can get HoV talk to Herrscher of Thunder Mei, when in main story that would not be possible due to the story events giving no room for that conversation to be canon. Dorm dialog does reference main story events though. Quite frequently infact when having two chibi characters talk to each other.
They're actually pretty different. Carole only became a Valkyrie because her mother forced her to. She doesn't like studying and doesn't like training either. She's as normal a girl as can be. Kiana on the other hand, became a Valkyrie on her own accord, and while she never liked studying, she did like training. In fact, most of the times she ditched classes, she did so to go do physical training. Kiana put up a facade of happy energetic girl, but she always knew she wasn't normal.
@@1idd0kun but also Carole's actually good at it. She gets consistently good grades, and she has a great aptitude for battle (as she's clearly demonstrated). She just doesn't see the importance of all of this, especially in a time of peace, a time without Honkai. Kiana however, sucked at both at the start. She never had good grades and she wasn't the best fighter either, at least when she enrolled. Man, these two are almost complete opposites yet somehow very similar...
@@aceblaz5502 Canonically Kiana was a great fighter since the very beginning. For example, in the manga when Theresa gives Kiana the White Comet battlesuit, she makes Kiana fight a simulation in order to master the suit, and Theresa points out Kiana has immense talent for fighting. Then in game in chapter 4 or 5 (don't remember which one exactly) Rita goes to Saint Freya and sees Kiana fighting and also points out Kiana has massive talent for fighting.
@@aceblaz5502 Don't try moving the goal post. You said Carole has a great aptitude for battle but Kiana doesn't. I'm just arguing that point in particular, by pointing out that Kiana actually had terrific aptitude for battle.
Riiight...Timido is the only remaining female character from APHO to not get a Battlesuit to play as her outside of APHO. We of course won't get APHO's protag as a playable character outside of APHO because the entire playable cast of this game are female, and he's a guy. So, he's not allowed to be playable outside that mode. It'd be interesting though if we could have Timido playable outside of APHO. I totally can see her being a ice element character due to how she fights in APHO part 2. And since we've seen APHO being referenced in the dream like state characters in main story were put into (Not talking about the Project Stigma arc) that showed a possible future for each character, and I think Timido appeared in one of those dream visions, I feel like someday it'd be fine if Timido actually got her own Battlesuit
So since she's from future, its basically like time travel. Theresa figured out what happen, I mean ofc. She has way more experience like man, shes around 30/40+ Btw, if u dont know what "SP" valks are, so they are out of main story, current universe, or timeline. Like Carole shes from future, Anta-Bakai Gurl shes from another world, same as Haxxor, Starlit, Luna Kindred, Fallen Rosemary, Fervent Tempo, etc!
@@moores4415 i think the dev interview has confirmed that it's actually the future. It was something along the lines of "We decided to also show what will happen in the future after the main story was done so APHO was created to show where we intend to go with our vision in future" at least something along those lines
@@saptarshibhowmick5220 that can be interpreted in different ways and for each there is a explanation, if Apho is how it ends then is not a "beauty be blessed" and allwhat we did for, besides the change in to many girls etc.. wont spoil the rest for the ones who still dont know, the thing is is a possible future but is not canon, i think Apho is more like a "side story" and they took this story to Honkai Rails that some even think is HI4 when is not.
@@soulknight5190 true. But the small possibility is there. Especially since… Upon thinking about this i just realised that bubble universes exist in the game😅I’m soo dumb
@@geometrydash2506 I didn’t mean to say your theory was wrong, but I was just pointing out that using this as evidence might not work, it’s definitely a possibility tho
Fu Hua said Carole looked familiar cuz she was friends with a look alike during the previous era. miHoYo does this a lot, think of it as reincarnation actually existing in this world.
In the previous era, the first friend Fu Hua ever made was a girl that looked just like Carole, but since Fu Hua needs to erase her memories, she doesn't remember her
@@celes1398 Oh so like, Fuhua have a friend a years ago, Ig that was when she before or already become AE right?, I think when otto shot her she must lost her memory?
Late reply but it's that type of answer where you're actually not making a question but your tone makes it seem like it's a question because you're still processing what's happening in front of you Shorter answer: she was surprised that someone suddenly introduced themself to her, and she's like, "I'm Fu Hua, I guess?"
No, these are just dorm interactions. You can get characters from any time to interact with eachother. As long as mhy has given them dorm interactions of course.
Basically there are 2 Caroles, one from old civilization where Fu Hua was born (50000+ years ago) and they got to know each other at university if I remember correctly, and became good friends, after that she did not play any other significant role, and this Carole is from APHO(open world if you haven't play for long, same as Sakura Samsara), 10+ years after current events, where they are dealing with new enemies named as sky people.
My question is still open for Post Honkai Odyssey. What. happened. to. Kiana? I don't read the manga, if this is already been in it. Sorry. If this is already been, then please tell me a name of manga. Thank u ❤ upd: I know that Mihoyo already told us that APHO is like an alternative reality, or one of the variants of the future to current story. And I readed about phrases by Mei from Reddit. But Mihoyo still don't give us a reason why Kiana don't standing with her friends in the APHO. I believe that maybe they'll give us all answers on our questions soon or later.
![[Honkai impact3] "Seele" (Veliona) chill in dorm with her friends](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KMS0-c6BzNs/mqdefault.jpg)
I love how she tells Mei she "looks a lot younger"
Then the realization kicks in
What happened? Lol im stuck on chapter6
@@caseykish3535 she indirectly called APHO Mei "old"
Waaaaiiiiit does that mean apho is the past but that is kinda weird cuz bronya got a bigger chest so she looks older in apbo 2 so I'm a little confused
Unless apho is straight up a bubble universe but idk I don't think mihoyo are pulling bubble universe shit again
@@poggest_of_them_all no apho take place 8 years after kiana sealed the honkai on the moon
@@translator-kun wait what happens to kiana after that?
Carole and Fu Hua’s interaction makes my eyes water
What is the backstory there? I'm in the dark lol
@@yuukikonno6804 Fu Hua's first friend from the Previous Era is a Carole lookalike, she's in Chapter 20
@@lavalaur True and then...
She died (From what I remember)
Wow back then I thought the Carole model was just a placeholder. Seems like mihoyo does pay attention to details this time
And man that Fu Hua backstory was so depressing :( I'm glad they got to reunite in the current era, albeit with different identities.
Honestly it is sad, but not to the point of dragging up any emotions. We barely knew anything about PE Carole other than the fact that Fu hua was friends with her and is dead, which is the same for 99% of all the people Fuhua knows
Mei: Ah, she must be a big headache to her squad leader…
Little did she knew, that she was going to be that Squad Leader in the future.
Well, thankfully Carole proved herself to be an even bigger headache to the APHO Enemies as well.
She is exactly like Kiana always giving Mei and Theresa a big headache lol 😂
@@multitaskman4227 Metaphorically and literally.
1:07
Carole: I'm the best valkyrie
HOT: Tf did you just say
HOS: Is that a challenge?
HOF: did someone say challenge?
HOR: *just passing through with her bike*
Seele: *holding a banner that says Bronya number 1*
*the Herrscher of the Void wanted to be included but couldn't due to Canonical reasons*
Through the interactions with Mei and Theresa, you realize she's from the future.
I’m pretty sure it’s a neat nod to Thersea and Kiana’s interaction “in the simulation.”
So its confirmed
Sometimes people get confused whether Carole is from the future or from the past. To put it simply, she's both. The Carole from Fu Hua's past took place in the previous era while the Carole in APHO is in the future of the current era, think of it as reincarnations like Captain Himeko to Murata Himeko and Dr. MEI to Raiden Mei
@@IceeFish I'm gonna screen shot this and use it as a responce when people ask me why I Skip Honkai's story
@@Soul_of_the_Og sad
0:32 that moment after Fu hua recall and reach out her step.
Fu Hua... :'(
"Could it be... Oh. I see"
"Your mom would be proud of you"
Yeah, Theresa definitely thought Lewis died.
So sad how Fu Hua doesn't remember her very first friend she made in school 🤧
It was almost 50 000 years ago. Fu Hua has to erase her memories periodically since her brain is incapable of storing centuries worth of memories.
Where can I read the manga about chapter 20? Can't find it any where
@@kaecov2457 As far as I know, there is no manga for them. You'll simply have to play chapter 20.
@@Sheevlord That aint centuries anymore, thats 50 millenia already, its an awful long time to live, die and reborn.
@@ZeroConZx yeah, but Fu Hua needs 23 years gap after she died to be reborn tho
1:06
"And you became a valkyrie?"
"Right, the very best one!"
That line and that personality reminds me of Kiana's interaction with Himeko.
*im not crying im not crying im not crying*
NEVER LEEEEEEEEEET YOU GO!
*cries in the corner*
Fu Hua: I'm Fu Hua?
Why question mark? Her amnesia worsening? :D
Pff
She's old, pardon her 😂
"Ah she must be a big headache to her squad leader"
You had no idea,past Mei.
Carole is too wholesome.
Imagine being super shy and introvert then having this one social and lovely friend who believed in you and made you have a lot of friends, after finally being happy and gaining confidence this friend of yours just die at the moment you didn't expect the most and you weren't even able to say goodbye :')
why must you hurt me this way :"(((
And now Fu Hua doesn't even remember her....
Bummer she doesnt have an interaction with HoT Mei. I wonder how that would have played out
SQUAD LEADER SO COOL BRO
Can I touch your horns?
"SQUAD LEADER IS INTO COSPLAY?!?!"
Carole is such a bright kid :wowe:
I really like that Fu Hua talks to Carole since she is his friend.
She's not her previous era friend, she just looks alike.
*her
@@Tony-qt6yp Then what is the point of the last lines of fu hua feeling familiar with carole?
@@sansidotti just a little fanservice. Dorm dialogue is mostly that.
@@Tony-qt6yp Dorm dialog is mostly non-canon to the main story. Hence why you can get HoV talk to Herrscher of Thunder Mei, when in main story that would not be possible due to the story events giving no room for that conversation to be canon. Dorm dialog does reference main story events though. Quite frequently infact when having two chibi characters talk to each other.
Watching Carole now really reminds me of young Kiana.
... the story repeats itself ig
HAHAHA.. mei said she is a head ache to squad leader
APHO Mei: should I tell her or not....
carole reminding fuhua of her previous era life
She quickly retracted what she said and follow it up by "But squad leader is still young!"
Hahaha
Mei: she must be a headache for her squad leader
Mei a few years later: yo...
Carole just look like Kiana when she young…
They're actually pretty different. Carole only became a Valkyrie because her mother forced her to. She doesn't like studying and doesn't like training either. She's as normal a girl as can be.
Kiana on the other hand, became a Valkyrie on her own accord, and while she never liked studying, she did like training. In fact, most of the times she ditched classes, she did so to go do physical training. Kiana put up a facade of happy energetic girl, but she always knew she wasn't normal.
@@1idd0kun but also Carole's actually good at it. She gets consistently good grades, and she has a great aptitude for battle (as she's clearly demonstrated). She just doesn't see the importance of all of this, especially in a time of peace, a time without Honkai.
Kiana however, sucked at both at the start. She never had good grades and she wasn't the best fighter either, at least when she enrolled.
Man, these two are almost complete opposites yet somehow very similar...
@@aceblaz5502
Canonically Kiana was a great fighter since the very beginning. For example, in the manga when Theresa gives Kiana the White Comet battlesuit, she makes Kiana fight a simulation in order to master the suit, and Theresa points out Kiana has immense talent for fighting. Then in game in chapter 4 or 5 (don't remember which one exactly) Rita goes to Saint Freya and sees Kiana fighting and also points out Kiana has massive talent for fighting.
@@1idd0kun she was a gifted fighter, but far from the best.
As demonstrated by Himeko in their first training session.
@@aceblaz5502
Don't try moving the goal post. You said Carole has a great aptitude for battle but Kiana doesn't. I'm just arguing that point in particular, by pointing out that Kiana actually had terrific aptitude for battle.
Carole is just too precious.
"I'm gonna make friends with the girl over there next!"
miss girl there's no other people in the room other than AI-Chan
Maybe she's talking about AI Chan just that she didn't go the right way lol.
Fu Hua found Carole familiar because she knew the previous Era Carole from Sapphire City before the Honkai struck the planet
2:08 wait till she realizes
The dorm is kinda multidimensional
I mean Captain's Hyperion does travel the Sea of Quanta, so it makes sense that the dorm is like this from time to time.
Now I want a Timido Valkyrie to come out so Bronya can have the same experience with her Future Squad member.
Riiight...Timido is the only remaining female character from APHO to not get a Battlesuit to play as her outside of APHO. We of course won't get APHO's protag as a playable character outside of APHO because the entire playable cast of this game are female, and he's a guy. So, he's not allowed to be playable outside that mode. It'd be interesting though if we could have Timido playable outside of APHO. I totally can see her being a ice element character due to how she fights in APHO part 2. And since we've seen APHO being referenced in the dream like state characters in main story were put into (Not talking about the Project Stigma arc) that showed a possible future for each character, and I think Timido appeared in one of those dream visions, I feel like someday it'd be fine if Timido actually got her own Battlesuit
Cmon fu hua! Grab that feather that holds the memory!
Carole talk with fu hua.
People who don't know :🌝
People who know :😭
Yeah 😞😞
1:06 raiden stares
So since she's from future, its basically like time travel. Theresa figured out what happen, I mean ofc. She has way more experience like man, shes around 30/40+
Btw, if u dont know what "SP" valks are, so they are out of main story, current universe, or timeline. Like Carole shes from future, Anta-Bakai Gurl shes from another world, same as Haxxor, Starlit, Luna Kindred, Fallen Rosemary, Fervent Tempo, etc!
"SP" stand for Special. Well it's like you said basically
So this Carole . Which is from APHO. Not from the main story? So APHO is not canon? Huh
@@unclefudge4206 APHO is 8 years in the future which is still "uncertain" rather than not canon.
@@moores4415 i think the dev interview has confirmed that it's actually the future.
It was something along the lines of
"We decided to also show what will happen in the future after the main story was done so APHO was created to show where we intend to go with our vision in future" at least something along those lines
@@saptarshibhowmick5220 that can be interpreted in different ways and for each there is a explanation, if Apho is how it ends then is not a "beauty be blessed" and allwhat we did for, besides the change in to many girls etc.. wont spoil the rest for the ones who still dont know, the thing is is a possible future but is not canon, i think Apho is more like a "side story" and they took this story to Honkai Rails that some even think is HI4 when is not.
Previous life of Carole was friend with Fu Hua 😢
I really do want to see some sort of event between APHO and the main honkai being together
you mean like time travel event?
Mei: "She must be a real headache to her squad leader."
Me: "I'm gonna tell her."
1:34 Elysia tries to stare Mei's girl friend :P
OMG...i remember when Carole being Fu Hua's first friend😥
The one with FuHua broke my heart
1st thought of old Theresa when she see the future Kiana and Carole "Oh no, are they cheating and hidden another child?"
Damn Fu Hua so old even forgot about her dead bff in the past era.
damn Fu Hua recognizing Carole from her old life........my hart
"then we're friends now!" agghhhhh this is so sad considering how small and cute they are
Time traveler Carole
This could confirm carole is a time traveler or at least travels back in time at some point after apho
I very much doubt that, you can have hof and younger kiana interact, along with much more inexplainable stuff
@@soulknight5190 true. But the small possibility is there. Especially since…
Upon thinking about this i just realised that bubble universes exist in the game😅I’m soo dumb
@@geometrydash2506 I didn’t mean to say your theory was wrong, but I was just pointing out that using this as evidence might not work, it’s definitely a possibility tho
The dorm is a place where everyone can meet and no one is dead there
@@emilinne yup
Y’all the girl fu hua saved in Previous Era looks like carole
Carole reminds me a lot of young Kiana or tuna her line to Theresa is exactly the same line from Kiana to Himeko I'm 😥
Thats adorable ngl
Lmao I'm having flashbacks about Theresa talking about baby silver hairs
"Im going to make friends with the girl over there next!" *proceeds to run against bed*
Fu Hua met her friend again
Hurt to see her talk exactly like young kiana
I'm suprised kiana and/or bronya didn't have an interaction, but i guess thats just me going "they saw carole that one time in band camp"
Fuhua interaction is depressing if you remember that part of the story
K A W A I I 🥰
This makes sense isn’t Carole basically 8 years back into the past???
No,the dorm is where EVERYONE can meet wether their dead or from a bubble universe or in the future
@@emilinne More precisely Hyperion
The dorm is like Fate's Throne of Heroes, timelines and universes doesn't matter, everyone can meet there.
When u traveled to the past but u didnt know:
HoT pacing in the background totally not being mama bird
Guys i kinda found a Kiana interaction with carole about putting on weight lmao
awww Teresa and Carole is like coming to a further relative and them saying that they only remember ypu as a child
I think Fu hua met her mother in the past because she used to feel familiar with her
Fu Hua said Carole looked familiar cuz she was friends with a look alike during the previous era.
miHoYo does this a lot, think of it as reincarnation actually existing in this world.
Mei: (Ah, she must be a big headache to her squad leader...)
Yeah, right...
such a lovely kid, imma have a new niece then
bro i thought Fu Hua said: Hi Carole I'm STFU
(dont ask me how)
Rip Hua’s dead friendo
Thats watering my womb
Man I want a new S rank Carole battlesuit
Maybe how like Bronya grows into Silverwing, Carole can have something like that
"Captain I'm not that boring"
*Proceeds to demonstrate one of the most boring conversation ever*
The line that Carole speak with Theresa is like Kiana spoke to Himeko and Theresa :) T-T
The fact that i got Pepper with frag and not gacha makes me question if its actually worth pulling for Special 4* like Fischl, Raven or even Pepper
Yes it is worth pulling for them since youll get sss way faster
Old genshin habit
thats sadly wholesome
Carole remembers me to Kiana at the very beginning..
Big sad that is Carole know everyone in future except Fuhua that mean there is no Fuhua in furute :'(
I mean, she didn't know Bronya either when she rescued her
Because APHO might not even be canon
Nive interaction with Old Mei. But if she talk to Serpent Mei, It will be very weird.
"I'm not that boring, Captain" what? says who?
Carole is like Kiana... cute af
they are so cute
Carole the mini Kiana
What do you hink?
Cute 😚😚🥰🥰🥰😊😊
:starryeyed:
xD
WAIT CAROLE IS LEWIS'S DAUGHTER?! I MISSED THAT?! I mean to be fair, when I started apho I barely paid attention to the lore there lmao
Yes she is, i bet you also skipped the part when Mei told Lewis about how Carole went AWOL, then Lewis gave Carole one big scolding.
@@aldyzero6676 you know, public embarrassment is a good idea for a kid who's gone AWOL XD
Fu Hua...
Fu Hua didn't remember that Carole was her high school friend... Right?
It's a previous era version of Carole
Yeah, she didnt, she need to erase her memories so it was erased
@@ok-gn4rx I think her Phoenix form and when she back to her body, she had most of Previous Era memories, right?
@@MinhLe19303 not really iirc
@@hyperactivy9178 Really? In one of her side quest, she did remember her time before Honkai happened in Pre-Era, right?
Fu Hua saying she is familiar really hurts. Also, if Fu Hua is of the previous era, could a current era version of her appear?
Wdym by fuhua said she look familliar? K-kiana?
In the previous era, the first friend Fu Hua ever made was a girl that looked just like Carole, but since Fu Hua needs to erase her memories, she doesn't remember her
@@celes1398 Oh so like, Fuhua have a friend a years ago, Ig that was when she before or already become AE right?, I think when otto shot her she must lost her memory?
Ahh...Carole in my dorm is the best..love having her f2p..plus Tnx for this reccommendations?
Btw: any battlesuits of the characters works?
I'm a little late, but you can have every battlesuit in dorm except for fischl
why does fu hua question when she said hi i'm fu hua?
Probably just a typo
Late reply but it's that type of answer where you're actually not making a question but your tone makes it seem like it's a question because you're still processing what's happening in front of you
Shorter answer: she was surprised that someone suddenly introduced themself to her, and she's like, "I'm Fu Hua, I guess?"
Can someone please tell me what do you mean by that she time travels? And basically whos Carole at that point :((
No, these are just dorm interactions. You can get characters from any time to interact with eachother. As long as mhy has given them dorm interactions of course.
These are dorm interactions, Mihoyo can do whatever they want with these interactions since they are for fun.Time travel,4th wall breaking,anything.
Just sold my global account cant be any happier
is she out yet?
next patch
jadi pengen
kiana still better>>>
Can someone elaborate or explain to me Carole's lore cause I'm so lost 😭😭
Basically there are 2 Caroles, one from old civilization where Fu Hua was born (50000+ years ago) and they got to know each other at university if I remember correctly, and became good friends, after that she did not play any other significant role, and this Carole is from APHO(open world if you haven't play for long, same as Sakura Samsara), 10+ years after current events, where they are dealing with new enemies named as sky people.
@@mariusdesu1633 so apho carole is a reincarnation?
Yeah
My question is still open for Post Honkai Odyssey. What. happened. to. Kiana?
I don't read the manga, if this is already been in it. Sorry. If this is already been, then please tell me a name of manga. Thank u ❤
upd: I know that Mihoyo already told us that APHO is like an alternative reality, or one of the variants of the future to current story. And I readed about phrases by Mei from Reddit. But Mihoyo still don't give us a reason why Kiana don't standing with her friends in the APHO. I believe that maybe they'll give us all answers on our questions soon or later.
Mei talks about a friend she knew that sacrificed everything, iirc in APHO kiana is in the moon after sealing 99% of honkai in it