I think the idea of the cats nibbling on Selina's fingers and other parts was that they stimulated her nerve endings to revive her and prevented her dying from shock. Falling through a few awnings kept her from breaking her bones, and everything else was just the trauma of living through the experience.
Exactly! Everybody takes it so literally, but it's really as simple as brain damage and a psychotic break. It's a comic book movie, and Tim Burton works in rubber reality as it is.
No, she has amnesia. The awnings broke her fall. It’s all in her head as explained by the writer Daniel Waters. It harkens back to Batman #1 and Catwoman: Her Sister’s Keeper comic books.
@HipsterBlood That's good background information. However, it's not apparent when you watch the movie. Throughout different points of the film, we see Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman go through her 9 lives. Different stages where she should have been killed, but we see her well and alive in the next scene. Nor was it apparent that she had amnesia. She clearly remembers she works for Christopher Walkin. It simply looked like she ws being coy with him because she now has confidence, unlike before her fall. -OG
"Batman" was so huge in '89, you could not go anywhere without seeing the Bat Symbol. Tim Burton's "Batman" and "Batman Returns" has, by far, the best Gotham of all the Batman shows and movies. He really captured Gotham the way it should be, as another character in the film. Grissom (Jack Palance) called Alicia (the other blond) "Sweetheart" because she was his woman. It is also the reason he set Jack Napier (Joker) up to be killed by Eckhardt (corrupt cop with the deep voice) as he knew Alicia and Jack were together behind his back. One other thing that is really amazing about this film is that it was produced and filmed in the middle of a writers strike and they had to basically ad-lib the entire script. This is just a Nit-Pick but I would call it "comic bookish" not "cartoony", it is more apt and will save you grief from comic book fans that "cartoony" will/would drive them nuts. Last thing, and just an FYI, the Joker never killed Bruce's parents and is/was one of the criticisms of the film. EDIT: For a additional and great source of the Bruce and Selina (Batman and Catwoman) story/romance arc you should check out the "Hush" run (Batman Issues #608-619), though you can also get it in a single graphic novel as well as an animated feature (not quite as good as the comics though). Michelle killed it as Selina/Catwoman! Love her so much. If you want another film when she is younger check out "Ladyhawke" (1985).
Man I swear I only mean this as a funny quip, it’s all love, I bear you not an ounce of offense or ill will, it’s only cause you set it up;…. but…. *N O S H I T* 🎉 🥳
@@fenixmacariuscornett1675 don't get offended but yea, i meant it as being 'obvious' of course. It's pretty weird buying candy bars from someone as a kid and then seeing them a few years later in 'Scarface'.
Have written this before but Nicki could totally rock doing a Catwoman cosplay, especially the Michelle Pfeiffer version 😉😍 Though with her short haircut she would fit more as the Arkham games version of Catwoman because of similair hairstyle 🙂
Yes, the black and white serials. Not quite a series. Serials just continued an ongoing plot over several viewings. Then end. Sort of like a mini-series. In contrast, a series could go for several seasons and have a number of self contained episodes that don't necessarily move the story forward. -OG
There was good long intros back before 2000. People USED to have attention spans and could sit still for them to build suspense and anticipation for the movie.
29:25 - 29:30/ Believe it or not, that scenario actually played out in the mid-80's. Around the Chicago area, somebody actually poisoned Tylenol capsules, leading to several deaths. The company essentially switched to tablets to ensure consumers couldn't break the medicine and lace it with poison.❤
The gothic feel of these two movies and the neon/blacklight of the next few are so good. I miss these sorts of settings. Really makes Gotham feel like a different world in comparison to the Nolan films.
Bruce Wayne is a misfit, not a high school quarterback heartthrob. That’s why this Batman is amazing. Michael Keaton portrays an average honest person, not some tough guy persona.
I love that you fell for the miscue. I don't mean that as an insult. It simply means the film worked/did what it was supposed to, and made you believe that the opening scene of Batman '89 was going to depict the Wayne Family murders.
I want to congratulate you for the idea of first seeing a trailer for Addam West's Batman and thus being able to have a context and a clearer idea of the great change that Burton's films gave to the image that the mass public had until then of Batman. It was a resounding change. I wish others did what you did instead of laughing and comparing them to Nolan's films. These people have to understand that without the step that Burton took, what Nolan did could never have happened. Although it is to the credit of comic writers and artists that since the early 80s the character was already becoming darker and more complex in comics, but that was only seen by the few who read those comics. What Burton did was bring that more "serious" image of Batman to the big screen and it was then that the general public saw for the first time the Batman that we know and take for granted today. This change that Burton produced in the public image of Batman was necessary to change the disdainful opinion that the majority had regarding this character. It's easy to scoff now and say that Burton's movies seem silly. But the changes are gradual. You can't go from Addam West to Christopher Nolan in one step. First, the enormous step that Burton took was necessary. The people of that time would not have accepted such a drastic change and the film would have failed since the majority still considered him a character for children and Burton and company took a big risk by giving a darker tone to Batman in the cinema. Many people complained. because they took the children to the cinema believing it was for minors. Furthermore, although the stories and dialogues in Burton's Movies are somewhat childish, in terms of aesthetics they are far superior to the work that Nolan did. Burton's Gotham makes me want to cross the screen and get in there. On the other hand, Nolan's Gotham looks too ordinary and boring, it does not stimulate the imagination. I was an 8-year-old boy when Tim Burton's Batman was released and it marked my childhood with fire. I live in a small city in an Argentine province where at that time comics like "Killing Joke" or "Dark Knight Returns" did not arrive, I didn't even know they existed, so my idea of Batman until then was what was seen on the West series or in the Super Friends cartoons. When I saw Burton's Movie it changed everything. And I'm forgetting to mention the wonderful music of Danny Elfman, which for me will always be the only Batman music, unbeatable, my chest swells when I listen to it, glorious. And all the team and minds that worked on these two films. A wonderful time that I am glad to have witnessed and that I miss.
This is my favorite Batman movie. I watched it in the theater in 1989. Michael Keaton will always be my favorite Batman and Jack Nicholson my favorite Joker.
now that you're getting into Batman, there's a documentary called Batman and Bill that chronicles the uncredited creator Bill Finger, who is ACTUALLY responsible for the character's signature design. Finger didn't get a single film credit until Dawn of Justice, I think.
This will always be the best Batman to me. I saw the show as a kid, but this was the first to take it to a darker place...The perfect blend between comics and darkness. I may be bias, but I'm also right! "Ever dance with the Devil in the pale Moon light?"
One thing to remember about the 1966 movie trailer is that at the time the comic book was going through a over the top phase where Batman was a bit more corny. Most movies up to the 90's had big openings that included most of the credits. We used that to get our snacks and not miss the movie itself.
1:25:25 "I don't like the word 'better'" That's okay, *I* like the word "better." Pfeiffer is incredible in this, as is Danny DeVito. Every Batman movie stands on the strength of its villains, and these are among the best we're gonna get.
Also though, Michelle and Michael dated for a bit before Batman Returns. So they had real chemistry making the movie, that's part of why their scenes are so electric. Plus of course they're both amazing actors.
Crazy fact: According to Burt Ward (Robin in 66) mothers wrote into the show complaining that his, uh, nether region, was too big and visible on camera. He also says the network gave him drugs that would shrink it.
Patently untrue, but he's not the only one to make this absurd claim. Drugs to make his junk smaller? Unless he's half mast, then there might be an issue and it's on him. This is just dumb. Plus he did adult films later. His claim to size still can't be proven.
I love the Burton Batman films. Batman (89) is my favorite movie of all time and Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie. Michael Keaton will always be my favorite live action Batman. Danny Elfman's music is very iconic.
The Tim Burton movies weren’t even about Batman. Tim Burton doesn’t know a comic book to save his life, he has this annoying infatuation with the villains
It sounds like you're going to go through all the live action Batman movies. I'm anxious for you to get to the Christopher Nolan Dark Knight trilogy. By this time, the Batman character becomes much more grounded in reality and less comic-book like. I grew up with the earlier versions, including the Adam West Batman, but I became a huge Christopher Nolan fan because of the Dark Knight trilogy. Also, and I know this is controversial, when you get to the movie 'The Dark Knight', I'm anxious to see what you think about Heath Ledger's Joker. Of all the other Jokers (and I have seen them all), his is my favorite depiction of the Joker. To me, Heath Ledger was the perfect Joker. Great reaction!
Batman Returns has always been my most favorite Batman movie! I had the sleeping bag as a child even. This film was genius. The fact Penguin and Catwoman were both villains but were being played by the TRUE villain of the movie- Max Shreck! The setting, the music, the villains. Everything about this movie is pure perfection! Much better than its predecessor. Penguin in this film was a much better villain than Joker was in the first
It's important to remember that these movies were not only supposed to be "comic books on the big screen", but targeted to an audience that will include kids. Burton couldn't make the death scenes into something from a Tarantino film. Also, he had to do the "Batman voice" because Bruce Wayne is one of the famous men in the world. His normal speaking voice would be recognized
There are TWO SUNNY actors in Batman Returns -Danny obviously, and also Mac’s Dad! Gregory Scott Cummins -A Penguin Henchman who takes the baby and says: “I'm not really one for speeches, so I'll just say: thanks.”
57:47 "I can't tell what's going on inside his head." That's often the case with people in positions of power. They get _very_ good at keeping secrets.
BOTH scores composed by Danny Elfman are AWESOME. Especially "Batman". Orchestrated by Steve Bartek. Conducted by the late Shirley Walker. Performed by the Sinfonia of London Orchestra. Although, I do tend to favor his score to "Batman Returns" more.
It's very unique to have the first movie and it's sequel to be great movies when they came out. And Michelle....omg. What a performance. All the acting was great in all of them.
Batman 66 was my Dads favourite movie as a kid so I watched it a thousand times when I was young. It's still so good and fun. Batman as a character truly peaked IMO when he was running around a jetty with a bomb over his head trying to avoid Nuns, children and ducklings.
So before 89 Batman was all about his "utility belt" all the bad guys wanted it. After 89 it becomes about "those wonderful toys." It set a standard for future Batman movies and gadgets.
Love how these movies drew you in from the laughing at the overt comic vibes to truly caring. Plus, you're correct, Batman Returns is the one, IMO in the top 5 or top 3 superhero films of all time.
Although Danny Elfman wrote a fantastic score for this movie, the underlying music was done b by another music icon, Prince. Burton wanted the two to collaborate but Elfman threatened to drop out so Prince's music was used for scenes where a dramatic score wasn't needed.
12:02 "Okay. So, at this point, people don't _know_ if he's, like, he's not _good,_ right? But, he's not bad, either." He's a masked crime fighter, and one of his weapons in this fight is fear. This is a weapon he wields with the most incredible skill, because there is nothing people fear as much as what don't entirely _understand._
34:23 "She's mad at him, or somethin', because he hasn't _called_ or does she feel like she knows?" She's mad at him because, as far as she knows, he arranged that date and then didn't show up. So she feels stood up, right now.
10:49 "He's just a regular business man." Sort of. He's a figure in organized crime. Now, I don't think I've seen a single actor's portrayal of the Joker that has disappointed me. Every single one has been great, probably because no two have been exactly alike. But probably the Joker that has resonated with me the most is Mark Hamill's in the Animated Series and _Mask of the Phantasm._
As a make-up artist, you may want to go back and look at Caesar Romero's Joker from the 1966 movie. He refused to shave off his mustache for the role, so they just plastered it down with the white make-up. One thing lost to time is the fact that this was billed as dark and gritty. Compared to the 1966 movie, it was, but it still has a comic feel. When Michael Keaton was announced, people were outraged. He'd been a comedic actor until this point. He was in movies like Mr. Mom, and Beetlejuice and the thought of him playing a serious, gritty Batman was laughable. Then it came out and he's still considered one of the best in the role.
This is what Adam West is primarily known for aside from Mayor Adam West from Family Guy. Will forever be iconic. RIP Adam West. As for Jokers? Jack Nicholson is one of the top 3 for me. The order shifts depending on when you ask but the other 2 that is at the top of most if not everyone is of course Heath Ledger and arguably the greatest performance of the Joker ever is Mark Hamill. The iconic voice. The Animated Series is a must. The Mask of the Phantasm movie had arguably the greatest Joker laugh ever. And i would argue is the best Batman movie all around.
I've only ever known it to happen _once_ that Batman has had a special lady in his life for more than one episode. That's Talia al Ghul, and personally, I like the version of her that appears in the Animated Series _much_ better than the version that appears in _The Dark Knight Rises._ The version from the Animated Series was much more of an antiheroine who could, at times, be persuaded to do things that _helped_ the situation. The version from _The Dark Knight Rises_ was an all-out _villain._
In BATMAN (1989), the scene in the chemical plant where Jack is destroying everything, you'll see he swings an ax at a chemical container causing a spill. That was him imitating his famous ax-scene in THE SHINING. In both films, he played a madman named "Jack."
1:33:19 "Does Catwoman die?" Oh. You missed it. See, the rule is that cats have nine lives, and apparently, so does Catwoman. And, in the course of this movie, she lost _eight_ of them, but she told us that she would save one for the following _Christmas._ So you could say, yes, she dies eight times.
Wait till you see Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy! "Batman Begins" (2005) "The Dark Knight" (2008) "The Dark Knight Rises" (2012) Best Batman movies ever!!
There was an episode of Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy that guest starred Adam West and Burt Ward. Ernest Bognine (Mermaid Man) and Barnacle Boy (Tim Conway) were castmates from an old 60's tv show called McHale's Navy.
I'm a massive Burton fan. My two favorite are The Nightmare Before Christmas and Sweeney Todd. I enjoy the all though. I really appreciate his imagery.
The important thing to know about the adam west 60s batman tv series and movie is it was written to be silly and comical, thats how it would appeal to adults aswel as kids. Many people don't realize this and just assume its unintentionally silly and naff
The sound effects in Batman were done intentionally as a throwback to the old serials. If you watch other movies from that era, even that year, the sound effects were much more refined. This was a stylistic choice. Also, the lack of blood was done to keep the rating from being R. Also, he lowers his voice to disguise it from his Bruce Wayne voice. This is also done in the Batman Animated series. IF you want to watch some great Batman stories, watch that show, and the movie Mask of the Phantasm.
0:41 "So comic-booky." Actually, when Batman first appeared, in comic books, he was much darker and grittier than the 1960's TV show. The TV show had been an attempt to make him family friendly that ended up making him cheesy and ridiculous. That's what _happens_ when you try to have that effect with this particular hero.
BATMAN RETURNS is my default favourite film of all time, as it inspired my younger self to seek a carreer in the film industry. Less than a decade later, I was on a stage at Pinewood Studios (on the first Tomb Raider film) working for the guy who created the Zoo/Cobblepot mansion plates for this film. I get that many didn't like the darker tone of the second film, but I couldn't get enough of it.... an alternate Christmas film every bit as good as DIE HARD
If you follow up with the next batman film, just have an open mind... it's not a reboot but almost a re-imagining, with only scant connection to this film.... mostly due parental outrage over RETURNS and the studios desire to add more "family appeal" to the series.
I’m trying to decide what to have Nicki watch to get to that return. I think I have to have her watch the first two Christopher Reeve Superman movies and she will definitely do the two Schumacher Batman films along with Batman Mask of the Phantasm. At that point, with the groundwork laid I think we will do: Man of Steel Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition Wonder Woman Zack Snyder’s Justice League The Flash I think those are the movies that all go together and if those watches are hits maybe we can do some other DCEU films.
nicki, you might like the music video for this movie, Siouxsie and the Banshees , sang the song, Face to Face, the music video should have clips from the movie, it's on youtube, but some versions don't have clips, look for the one that has clips
Catwoman is considered an anti-villain. She's bad but good. She's a cat thief stealing jewels, etc. But she'll also team with Batman to fight the bigger fish, so to speak. Also, partly because she does have a thing for Batman. -OG
Michelle Pfeiffer is just the definitive Catwoman. The way she portrays the split personality is top notch.
I think the idea of the cats nibbling on Selina's fingers and other parts was that they stimulated her nerve endings to revive her and prevented her dying from shock. Falling through a few awnings kept her from breaking her bones, and everything else was just the trauma of living through the experience.
Exactly! Everybody takes it so literally, but it's really as simple as brain damage and a psychotic break. It's a comic book movie, and Tim Burton works in rubber reality as it is.
In my opinion, the best Batman movie with the best actor playing Batman and the best joker
“This town needs an enema!!! ( blows party favor 2X’s)”
-The Joker
😂
Catwoman isn't invincible. She was going through her 9 lives. That's how she survived the fall from the window. The 🐈 cats gave her 9 lives. -OG
No, she has amnesia. The awnings broke her fall. It’s all in her head as explained by the writer Daniel Waters. It harkens back to Batman #1 and Catwoman: Her Sister’s Keeper comic books.
@HipsterBlood That's good background information. However, it's not apparent when you watch the movie. Throughout different points of the film, we see Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman go through her 9 lives. Different stages where she should have been killed, but we see her well and alive in the next scene.
Nor was it apparent that she had amnesia. She clearly remembers she works for Christopher Walkin. It simply looked like she ws being coy with him because she now has confidence, unlike before her fall. -OG
You don’t always see blood when a person is shot, especially with a thick suit.
"Batman" was so huge in '89, you could not go anywhere without seeing the Bat Symbol.
Tim Burton's "Batman" and "Batman Returns" has, by far, the best Gotham of all the Batman shows and movies. He really captured Gotham the way it should be, as another character in the film.
Grissom (Jack Palance) called Alicia (the other blond) "Sweetheart" because she was his woman. It is also the reason he set Jack Napier (Joker) up to be killed by Eckhardt (corrupt cop with the deep voice) as he knew Alicia and Jack were together behind his back.
One other thing that is really amazing about this film is that it was produced and filmed in the middle of a writers strike and they had to basically ad-lib the entire script.
This is just a Nit-Pick but I would call it "comic bookish" not "cartoony", it is more apt and will save you grief from comic book fans that "cartoony" will/would drive them nuts.
Last thing, and just an FYI, the Joker never killed Bruce's parents and is/was one of the criticisms of the film.
EDIT: For a additional and great source of the Bruce and Selina (Batman and Catwoman) story/romance arc you should check out the "Hush" run (Batman Issues #608-619), though you can also get it in a single graphic novel as well as an animated feature (not quite as good as the comics though).
Michelle killed it as Selina/Catwoman! Love her so much. If you want another film when she is younger check out "Ladyhawke" (1985).
Michelle Pfeiffer was a checker at the only grocery store in my hometown in the 70's when I was a kid. She was the pretty checker.
Man I swear I only mean this as a funny quip, it’s all love, I bear you not an ounce of offense or ill will, it’s only cause you set it up;…. but….
*N O S H I T* 🎉 🥳
@@fenixmacariuscornett1675 don't get offended but yea, i meant it as being 'obvious' of course. It's pretty weird buying candy bars from someone as a kid and then seeing them a few years later in 'Scarface'.
Have written this before but Nicki could totally rock doing a Catwoman cosplay, especially the Michelle Pfeiffer version 😉😍
Though with her short haircut she would fit more as the Arkham games version of Catwoman because of similair hairstyle 🙂
There was live action Batman before 1966... 1943 and 1949
Hence the reason Adam West, in the trailer for the 1966 Batman movie, specifies that it is the first film in color.
Yes, the black and white serials. Not quite a series. Serials just continued an ongoing plot over several viewings. Then end. Sort of like a mini-series.
In contrast, a series could go for several seasons and have a number of self contained episodes that don't necessarily move the story forward. -OG
There was good long intros back before 2000. People USED to have attention spans and could sit still for them to build suspense and anticipation for the movie.
They were also for people straggling running late buying popcorn but then George Lucas was like nope I’m ending opening credits lol
29:25 - 29:30/ Believe it or not, that scenario actually played out in the mid-80's. Around the Chicago area, somebody actually poisoned Tylenol capsules, leading to several deaths. The company essentially switched to tablets to ensure consumers couldn't break the medicine and lace it with poison.❤
And the batman soundtrack done by the greatest musician of all time...Prince 💜
Michael Keaton loves to play wounded creatures...he played Batman in DC the vulture in Marvel and Birdman in Gold Key Comics LOLOLOLOL
Burgess Meredith was the Pengiun in the TV show!?! Holy moly, he played Mickey in Rocky - the old guy who trained Rocky!
14:09 The look is so "dark and castley"...some might even say it looks "GOTHIC" lol
I’m excited about the idea of a Nicki series reacting to 7 or 8 more Batman movies.
The gothic feel of these two movies and the neon/blacklight of the next few are so good. I miss these sorts of settings. Really makes Gotham feel like a different world in comparison to the Nolan films.
Bruce Wayne is a misfit, not a high school quarterback heartthrob. That’s why this Batman is amazing. Michael Keaton portrays an average honest person, not some tough guy persona.
Michael Keaton is my one and only Batman! Why would I ever need another ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Even tho Keaton's character was far from average...Keaton's the man
@@paulamoya7956 there are other great Batmen
Adam West and comic books. That's about it.@@LeSteeler
When I was in pre-school around 1981 the Batman 66 show was on every afternoon and all the boys in the school gathered around the TV to watch.
I liked your reaction.
My mind was wondering who you were reminding of, and then, after a solid half hour, I got it: Miley frigging Cyrus.
Jack Nicholson nailed one aspect of The Joker that the other portrayals missed, that manic glee
The march of the penguins bit brought me to tears. Surprisingly moving
I love that you fell for the miscue. I don't mean that as an insult. It simply means the film worked/did what it was supposed to, and made you believe that the opening scene of Batman '89 was going to depict the Wayne Family murders.
I want to congratulate you for the idea of first seeing a trailer for Addam West's Batman and thus being able to have a context and a clearer idea of the great change that Burton's films gave to the image that the mass public had until then of Batman. It was a resounding change. I wish others did what you did instead of laughing and comparing them to Nolan's films. These people have to understand that without the step that Burton took, what Nolan did could never have happened. Although it is to the credit of comic writers and artists that since the early 80s the character was already becoming darker and more complex in comics, but that was only seen by the few who read those comics. What Burton did was bring that more "serious" image of Batman to the big screen and it was then that the general public saw for the first time the Batman that we know and take for granted today. This change that Burton produced in the public image of Batman was necessary to change the disdainful opinion that the majority had regarding this character. It's easy to scoff now and say that Burton's movies seem silly. But the changes are gradual. You can't go from Addam West to Christopher Nolan in one step. First, the enormous step that Burton took was necessary. The people of that time would not have accepted such a drastic change and the film would have failed since the majority still considered him a character for children and Burton and company took a big risk by giving a darker tone to Batman in the cinema. Many people complained. because they took the children to the cinema believing it was for minors. Furthermore, although the stories and dialogues in Burton's Movies are somewhat childish, in terms of aesthetics they are far superior to the work that Nolan did. Burton's Gotham makes me want to cross the screen and get in there. On the other hand, Nolan's Gotham looks too ordinary and boring, it does not stimulate the imagination. I was an 8-year-old boy when Tim Burton's Batman was released and it marked my childhood with fire. I live in a small city in an Argentine province where at that time comics like "Killing Joke" or "Dark Knight Returns" did not arrive, I didn't even know they existed, so my idea of Batman until then was what was seen on the West series or in the Super Friends cartoons. When I saw Burton's Movie it changed everything. And I'm forgetting to mention the wonderful music of Danny Elfman, which for me will always be the only Batman music, unbeatable, my chest swells when I listen to it, glorious. And all the team and minds that worked on these two films. A wonderful time that I am glad to have witnessed and that I miss.
Danny Elfman works on almost all of Tim Burton's films. He was also in a band called Oingo Boingo.
Batman Returns is one of the greatest sequels of all times but that is not to take away from the 1989 Batman movie
This is my favorite Batman movie. I watched it in the theater in 1989. Michael Keaton will always be my favorite Batman and Jack Nicholson my favorite Joker.
Yes 1989 will always be the best Batman movie
now that you're getting into Batman, there's a documentary called Batman and Bill that chronicles the uncredited creator Bill Finger, who is ACTUALLY responsible for the character's signature design. Finger didn't get a single film credit until Dawn of Justice, I think.
13:12 - "He's angry" is the best reaction to that moment I've ever seen 🤣🤣
This will always be the best Batman to me. I saw the show as a kid, but this was the first to take it to a darker place...The perfect blend between comics and darkness. I may be bias, but I'm also right! "Ever dance with the Devil in the pale Moon light?"
One thing to remember about the 1966 movie trailer is that at the time the comic book was going through a over the top phase where Batman was a bit more corny. Most movies up to the 90's had big openings that included most of the credits. We used that to get our snacks and not miss the movie itself.
Batman tv show: Penguin ( Burgess Meredith ) was "Rocky"'s trainer decades later.
1:25:25 "I don't like the word 'better'"
That's okay, *I* like the word "better." Pfeiffer is incredible in this, as is Danny DeVito. Every Batman movie stands on the strength of its villains, and these are among the best we're gonna get.
Cute bit where Selina had a neon sign for decoration that said "hello there", and after she turns she smashes part of it so it becomes "hell here."
Batman and Catwoman's 'will they won't they' is a tale as old as time XD I hope Nicki will be back for more Batman movies (and more Selina Kyle, ofc).
Also though, Michelle and Michael dated for a bit before Batman Returns. So they had real chemistry making the movie, that's part of why their scenes are so electric. Plus of course they're both amazing actors.
Crazy fact: According to Burt Ward (Robin in 66) mothers wrote into the show complaining that his, uh, nether region, was too big and visible on camera. He also says the network gave him drugs that would shrink it.
Patently untrue, but he's not the only one to make this absurd claim. Drugs to make his junk smaller? Unless he's half mast, then there might be an issue and it's on him. This is just dumb. Plus he did adult films later. His claim to size still can't be proven.
this is one of the more honest and less pandering reactions ive seen, very atypical
I love the Burton Batman films. Batman (89) is my favorite movie of all time and Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie. Michael Keaton will always be my favorite live action Batman. Danny Elfman's music is very iconic.
The Tim Burton movies weren’t even about Batman.
Tim Burton doesn’t know a comic book to save his life, he has this annoying infatuation with the villains
It sounds like you're going to go through all the live action Batman movies. I'm anxious for you to get to the Christopher Nolan Dark Knight trilogy. By this time, the Batman character becomes much more grounded in reality and less comic-book like. I grew up with the earlier versions, including the Adam West Batman, but I became a huge Christopher Nolan fan because of the Dark Knight trilogy. Also, and I know this is controversial, when you get to the movie 'The Dark Knight', I'm anxious to see what you think about Heath Ledger's Joker. Of all the other Jokers (and I have seen them all), his is my favorite depiction of the Joker. To me, Heath Ledger was the perfect Joker. Great reaction!
19:53 "Could you pass the salt?"
"Sure. Go long."
something to understand about the 60s Batman is that it was meant as a comedy. They went as goofy as possible and it was great.
1:23:51 Trivia: The background song is named: "Face to Face" by Siouxsie And The Banshees.
Batman Returns has always been my most favorite Batman movie! I had the sleeping bag as a child even. This film was genius. The fact Penguin and Catwoman were both villains but were being played by the TRUE villain of the movie- Max Shreck! The setting, the music, the villains. Everything about this movie is pure perfection! Much better than its predecessor. Penguin in this film was a much better villain than Joker was in the first
42:37 😂 1:21:24 I liked it how shreck is making a gesture of the penguin 🐧 as he has nothing to do with him.
Prince did the soundtrack for Batman. The " Bat Dance " music video was a big hit on MTV before the movie came out.
It's important to remember that these movies were not only supposed to be "comic books on the big screen", but targeted to an audience that will include kids. Burton couldn't make the death scenes into something from a Tarantino film.
Also, he had to do the "Batman voice" because Bruce Wayne is one of the famous men in the world. His normal speaking voice would be recognized
There are TWO SUNNY actors in Batman Returns
-Danny obviously, and also Mac’s Dad! Gregory Scott Cummins -A Penguin Henchman who takes the baby and says: “I'm not really one for speeches, so I'll just say: thanks.”
57:47 "I can't tell what's going on inside his head."
That's often the case with people in positions of power. They get _very_ good at keeping secrets.
BOTH scores composed by Danny Elfman are AWESOME. Especially "Batman". Orchestrated by Steve Bartek. Conducted by the late Shirley Walker. Performed by the Sinfonia of London Orchestra. Although, I do tend to favor his score to "Batman Returns" more.
Taking care of your chapped lips shortly before the revelation about the tainted health care products.
Timing that is fitting for the movie.
1:08:46 😆Ah, the Wilhelm Scream. Gotta love it.
The credit openings were a requirement back then for movies. George Lucas was the first to break that rule for his Star Wars movies
I love how the 1966 movie retained all the low-budget sets and effects from the TV show 😂
I love the "eww" sounds you make, every other time you see The Joker. So cute and "girly".
It's very unique to have the first movie and it's sequel to be great movies when they came out. And Michelle....omg. What a performance. All the acting was great in all of them.
Batman 66 was my Dads favourite movie as a kid so I watched it a thousand times when I was young. It's still so good and fun. Batman as a character truly peaked IMO when he was running around a jetty with a bomb over his head trying to avoid Nuns, children and ducklings.
So before 89 Batman was all about his "utility belt" all the bad guys wanted it. After 89 it becomes about "those wonderful toys." It set a standard for future Batman movies and gadgets.
Adam west,....it's almost hard to believe that that is the same person that is the Mayor Adam West on family Guy.... RIP Adam West.
Love how these movies drew you in from the laughing at the overt comic vibes to truly caring. Plus, you're correct, Batman Returns is the one, IMO in the top 5 or top 3 superhero films of all time.
Although Danny Elfman wrote a fantastic score for this movie, the underlying music was done b by another music icon, Prince. Burton wanted the two to collaborate but Elfman threatened to drop out so Prince's music was used for scenes where a dramatic score wasn't needed.
12:02 "Okay. So, at this point, people don't _know_ if he's, like, he's not _good,_ right? But, he's not bad, either."
He's a masked crime fighter, and one of his weapons in this fight is fear. This is a weapon he wields with the most incredible skill, because there is nothing people fear as much as what don't entirely _understand._
Lol, I know its a penguin hood, but it looks like there's a fried egg on yer head 😂
34:23 "She's mad at him, or somethin', because he hasn't _called_ or does she feel like she knows?"
She's mad at him because, as far as she knows, he arranged that date and then didn't show up. So she feels stood up, right now.
The music Joker plays in this movie was written and sung by Prince.
10:49 "He's just a regular business man."
Sort of. He's a figure in organized crime.
Now, I don't think I've seen a single actor's portrayal of the Joker that has disappointed me. Every single one has been great, probably because no two have been exactly alike. But probably the Joker that has resonated with me the most is Mark Hamill's in the Animated Series and _Mask of the Phantasm._
This is my mother's favorite Batman movies.
Even Robert Pattinson's "The Batman" (2022) will blow your mind, it's that good.. 😁🦇
As a make-up artist, you may want to go back and look at Caesar Romero's Joker from the 1966 movie. He refused to shave off his mustache for the role, so they just plastered it down with the white make-up.
One thing lost to time is the fact that this was billed as dark and gritty. Compared to the 1966 movie, it was, but it still has a comic feel. When Michael Keaton was announced, people were outraged. He'd been a comedic actor until this point. He was in movies like Mr. Mom, and Beetlejuice and the thought of him playing a serious, gritty Batman was laughable. Then it came out and he's still considered one of the best in the role.
Batman has had a few bad Directors, but never a bad casting for Batman. Each actor brought and focused on a different aspect of the character.
1:32:13 "Wouldn't Bruce think that through?"
He damned well _should've._ I mean, _Selina_ knew who he was, but _Max_ didn't.
This is what Adam West is primarily known for aside from Mayor Adam West from Family Guy. Will forever be iconic. RIP Adam West.
As for Jokers? Jack Nicholson is one of the top 3 for me. The order shifts depending on when you ask but the other 2 that is at the top of most if not everyone is of course Heath Ledger and arguably the greatest performance of the Joker ever is Mark Hamill. The iconic voice. The Animated Series is a must. The Mask of the Phantasm movie had arguably the greatest Joker laugh ever. And i would argue is the best Batman movie all around.
I think we need to introduce Nicki to the 2002 series Birds of Prey and the character of Huntress…
I've only ever known it to happen _once_ that Batman has had a special lady in his life for more than one episode. That's Talia al Ghul, and personally, I like the version of her that appears in the Animated Series _much_ better than the version that appears in _The Dark Knight Rises._ The version from the Animated Series was much more of an antiheroine who could, at times, be persuaded to do things that _helped_ the situation. The version from _The Dark Knight Rises_ was an all-out _villain._
In BATMAN (1989), the scene in the chemical plant where Jack is destroying everything, you'll see he swings an ax at a chemical container causing a spill. That was him imitating his famous ax-scene in THE SHINING. In both films, he played a madman named "Jack."
1:33:19 "Does Catwoman die?"
Oh. You missed it.
See, the rule is that cats have nine lives, and apparently, so does Catwoman. And, in the course of this movie, she lost _eight_ of them, but she told us that she would save one for the following _Christmas._ So you could say, yes, she dies eight times.
The visuals and sound effects aren't really a product of its time. It was intentionally stylized.
Wait till you see Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy!
"Batman Begins" (2005)
"The Dark Knight" (2008)
"The Dark Knight Rises" (2012)
Best Batman movies ever!!
1:29 You can tell how crooked _they_ are, because even the _camera_ is tilted.
A trailer like this one would be shown in theaters, before the main feature. A :30 second ad was on TV.
The 60’s Batman was the inspiration for MM and BB.
There was an episode of Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy that guest starred Adam West and Burt Ward. Ernest Bognine (Mermaid Man) and Barnacle Boy (Tim Conway) were castmates from an old 60's tv show called McHale's Navy.
"Let's just take him to the police." says the guy who's been murdering people left and right for the past 87 minutes
One of the best Batman movies ever made in my honest opinion is "Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm." 😊🦇
Please watch “Batman Forever” and “Batman & Robin” 🙏
Tim BURTON ALSO DIRECTED 'The Nightmare Before CHRISTMAS' danny Elfman scored that one too.
I'm a massive Burton fan. My two favorite are The Nightmare Before Christmas and Sweeney Todd. I enjoy the all though. I really appreciate his imagery.
Does she honestly not know who Kim Basinger is? When this came out she would have been second biggest actor in the movie behind Jack.
Yes but she probably wasn't even born then.
I recommend Jack Nicholson again in A Few Good Men & Anger Management.
The important thing to know about the adam west 60s batman tv series and movie is it was written to be silly and comical, thats how it would appeal to adults aswel as kids. Many people don't realize this and just assume its unintentionally silly and naff
The sound effects in Batman were done intentionally as a throwback to the old serials. If you watch other movies from that era, even that year, the sound effects were much more refined. This was a stylistic choice. Also, the lack of blood was done to keep the rating from being R. Also, he lowers his voice to disguise it from his Bruce Wayne voice. This is also done in the Batman Animated series. IF you want to watch some great Batman stories, watch that show, and the movie Mask of the Phantasm.
Pee Wee Herman played Penguin's father in the intro.
17:38 thinkin about a lil bat (An actual bat) busting crimes
Man-Bat
Next after these came the Joel Schumacher Batman films "Batman Forever" (1995) & "Batman & Robin" (1998).
0:41 "So comic-booky."
Actually, when Batman first appeared, in comic books, he was much darker and grittier than the 1960's TV show. The TV show had been an attempt to make him family friendly that ended up making him cheesy and ridiculous. That's what _happens_ when you try to have that effect with this particular hero.
BATMAN RETURNS is my default favourite film of all time, as it inspired my younger self to seek a carreer in the film industry. Less than a decade later, I was on a stage at Pinewood Studios (on the first Tomb Raider film) working for the guy who created the Zoo/Cobblepot mansion plates for this film.
I get that many didn't like the darker tone of the second film, but I couldn't get enough of it.... an alternate Christmas film every bit as good as DIE HARD
If you follow up with the next batman film, just have an open mind... it's not a reboot but almost a re-imagining, with only scant connection to this film.... mostly due parental outrage over RETURNS and the studios desire to add more "family appeal" to the series.
and thankyou, for a great reaction with a lot of comments and questions
Nikie Prefer you vicky vale or selina kyle?
Here's a teaser, Michael Keaton returns as Batman in a later DC movie...
I’m trying to decide what to have Nicki watch to get to that return. I think I have to have her watch the first two Christopher Reeve Superman movies and she will definitely do the two Schumacher Batman films along with Batman Mask of the Phantasm. At that point, with the groundwork laid I think we will do:
Man of Steel
Batman v Superman Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition
Wonder Woman
Zack Snyder’s Justice League
The Flash
I think those are the movies that all go together and if those watches are hits maybe we can do some other DCEU films.
nicki, you might like the music video for this movie, Siouxsie and the Banshees , sang the song, Face to Face, the music video should have clips from the movie, it's on youtube, but some versions don't have clips, look for the one that has clips
Catwoman is considered an anti-villain. She's bad but good. She's a cat thief stealing jewels, etc. But she'll also team with Batman to fight the bigger fish, so to speak. Also, partly because she does have a thing for Batman. -OG