Another plus; My Robot is from 2018 and it has never failed on me or broken down. It is a tank. And I use it several times a day. The only thing that will wear is the silicone ring. I have to replace it once in a half year. And after more than six years I still love it. With all the variables I keep on learning.
I concur. It's amazing and I too bought mine in 2018. Sometimes my silicone ring last longer than 6 months. I've had a couple last more than year. For people wondering, the silicone ring stretches out over time due to heat and eventually interferes with attaching the portafilter. It takes a little over a minute to replace. The Cafelat Robot is so incredibly easy and simple to maintain.
Interesting, I’m coming up to 5 years on my first gasket! A couple of weeks ago I had 2 slight leaks of straight water and thought it was time for a change, but in the end it only needed a clean as there were grounds stuck underneath and was causing misalignment.
Went into the espresso rabbit hole a couple of months ago, bought a robot... And man oh man :) wonderful coffee and just a joy to use. Thanks for the great video!
I've owned a Robot for 4 years nows. You actually get better and more consistent. It's surprised me just how much learning has occurred! And now 9 bar is easy since I grew the right muscles. :)
Your review is spot on. I bought the robot about 5 months ago to replace my Gaggia classic pro and have been very happy with the decision. To preheat I place the basket and portafilter holder on top of my water kettle and let the steam heat it. Glad to hear you enjoyed the robot as much as I have.
I also love my Cafelat Robot. It replaced my pump machine I had for over a decade and makes even more delicious espresso. A huge plus for me is that it is always ready. It doesn't have a water tank that needs heating and it super easy too clean. That makes me use it more often and enjoy more espresso every day. From needing/wanting espresso to drinking high quality espresso in 3-4 minutes is a blessing!
I've enjoyed my robot for nearly three years now. 5-6 bar is ideal IMO. Anything over 7 bar is unnecessarily excessive and a true workout. The mittens make the pressing experience far easier on one's hands. It's a delightful minimalist way to make true espresso. The only departure from stock I've done is adding a tiny mirror (3D printed by a UK robot fan) that fits on the stock barista gage. It's practically zero maintenance. No descaling. Just a modest occasional wipedown and you're done. In lieu of the PF plug for preheating, I just dump the hot water I've used to preheat my glass into the PF just prior to adding the grounds. Eazy peazy. And the piston doesn't contact the brew water do there's negligible heat loss there. If water is contacting the piston, you've filled the PF too high. That was a very thorough and accurate review. 👊
Finally the praise it deserves. Incredibly simple and sturdy machine, travels well, next to no maintenance necessary. And: 2 minutes from zero to shot ready. Amazing, I love it
As a happy Robot owner who also pulls light-to-medium, I think you covered everything, including the downsides. As always, your reviews are so thorough. I will say that as a tall person, moving the pressure gauge to the top (which you can do with a cheap bracket or a printed part from Etsy) is really great - I can see the shot mirror, scale, and pressure gauge from one position, moving only my eyes.
This video inspired me to bust out my Robot. I had two shots go way too long from being ground too fine, but somehow both still tasted very very good. It’s incredible how forgiving it is and how much you can rescue almost anything. Great breakdown and video! Quick tip with the paper filter: I prewet the paper and stick it to the dispersion screen before putting in the basket. Just an easy way to get it seated properly.
I think the Robot workflow is much easier than the Flair. To preheat, I just place a small diameter bowl of boiling water on top of a mug and slide it under so the piston is about 1-1.5 cm immersed and let it sit there for a minute. After making espresso, i slide the mug+bowl back under to help rinse off the piston before I wipe it down with a washcloth.
@@anhtrang-yz1bs I've done hand grinder (both K-Ultra and J-Max) and stovetop kettle with the Robot. I have a gas stove and can literally pull shots during a power outage.
@@pawel_890 The Flair is excellent as well (I've used both), but more parts and tied to electricity. I've hand ground and camp stove boiled while car camping. Add a handheld nanofoamer and even better. The Flair does have the advantage of using more standardized parts, but do you need them?
This review matches my experience with this thing. I have owned a few machines in parallel. When I sold my Decent and had a LM Micra on order, we had the Robot on the counter for a few weeks. I was having a hard time justifying anything more. The Robot may just be the ultimate home espresso maker...
Snow! Love my Robot. The little pre-heat bung has made the most difference for me. I love the way it looks which I think helps with the taste :) I was suprised how simple it was to use and how I can get some really great coffee out of it. ( Also some really bad ones but we are all learning )
I just got one because I was getting tired of servicing and repairing my e61 dual boiler machine. It’s so much fun to use! Also goes great with the Dreo Barista Maker. By the time it’s done frothing, I’m done with a shot 😍
If you’re thinking of buying this, but you also want a milk steamer, look at the Bellman stovetop milk steamer. Also, for a hand grinder, I’d highly recommend the 1Zpresso J-Ultra. It’s designed for espresso. With that combination, you can make espresso most anywhere if you have camping stove to heat your water and use the steamer.
Milk? Just buy The Morning Dream milk steamer. It's a little bit expensive, but all in all: €400 Robot + €400 the morning dream = around €800. That's still cheaper than some single boilers, heat exchanhers and dual boilers
Great video. Glad you got one. I have thundies 😂 I rarely use it and just save my lighter roasts for pourovers. I love my robot and have pulled over 2000 shots. I thinks it’s a great piece of engineering that really works. Awesome conversation piece too.
I pull my shots at eight to nine bars over about twenty seconds after a ten second pre soak. I adjust my grind to make this happen. Yes, you do have to really press down hard and yes, the handle ends do hurt a tiny bit.
got my robot in 2019 and it's made me multiple delicious cups a day since. I'm getting an argos for easier milk drinks, but it's earned a permanent spot on the counter. Even when using a Bellman for steamed milk, it's just got such a nice workflow, it's so simple, it's extremely affordable for the coffee it makes... Just a great piece of equipment
My ex has over $40k in espresso machines with her Decent being her cheapest. I roast her coffee and have access to all her gear. But my Robot I preferred over all her gear so long as I'm making espresso for less than 3 people
I have one and a $12k machine among others. Robot has higher potential than my machines. I hope the meticulous can be as good as the robot but more consistent.
I’ve spent more than 10k on multiple espresso machines including a custom built lever machine and guess what…. In the beginning I liked the BLING and I naively thought spending more money would also equal way better espresso…. “Totally wrong!” I’m downgrading to a robot or similar and going to pair it with a grinder that’s around 3k. The biggest “game changer” for me, that was not mentioned in the video, is custom water. With a boiler you have to worry about the water you put in it and definitely avoid stuff like calcium chloride or potassium bicarbonate. With any machine like this I can tweak the water without worry and the results are better espresso than I could ever imagine with any boiler machine, + no maintenance. Downgrading your water but upgrading your espresso machine is a hurdle that can never be overcome , whether you realize this or not your coffee will always suffer. It just took a lot of $$$$$ and 20 years of palette development to figure this out. Great review
@@Wheresthesoul Yes! I use different water for my big espresso machine, but I recently got the robot and it’s really nice to use the same water I brew pour over with.
I have a question about this. If I am making an Americano, if I use no mineral water for the espresso, but add treated water for the Americano does that make the same cup as brewing with the mineral water?
@@samwise2010 minerals in the coffee extract coffee differently. If you pull a shot with something like distilled water (which is also hard on your boiler) and then add mineralized water to your espresso is will taste a bit differently than just brewing with mineral water from the beginning, also the ration of minerals and ppm or strength will be different. Depending on your tastebuds it could taste drastically different or just a little. But as long as it tastes good to you.
@@EeeTeePwnHome nice! Or it can give you a whole new take on medium dark roasts. Because you can up the mineral strength or PPM without worrying about the boiler = more sweetness and chocolate notes minus some of those bitter or burnt notes you would get with a lower PPM water you would most likely use for pourover.
Thanks Justin for reviewing my favorite coffee thing! One tip to view the pressure gauge…. Turn the robot/gauge away from you so when you are pressing down, you can look overtop at it (that’s what I do)…. Super easy especially if it’s on a table or a lower surface. Also shout out to Cafune they treated me very well when I bought mine, great shop! Thanks again I love your content! From another Canadian coffee loving dad.
Great Review! After doing a lot of research, the Robot is my first and only espresso machine and I don’t see myself buying a semi-auto machine in the future. One thing I‘m currently thinking about is to pick up a second basket to make pulling multiple shots a bit more streamlined. Highly recommend the Robot, as seemingly everyone else in this comment section haha.
In addition to a machine with an E61 group, I've owned a Robot since it was first released (first one without a pressure gauge, then one with a pressure gauge, not essential but very useful for flow profiling). It's absolutely brilliant! My only regret is that Cafelat didn't bring out a basket (in option) that can be filled to 7-9g for single shots.
I have a pump machine (Lelit MaraX) and have had my eye on lever machines for a long time. You mentioned the ability to save shots mid-flow as a benefit of a manual lever. I actually have learned to save my shots on the lever machine by pulling longer/shorter based on how much pressure and flow rate is being maintained (entirely eyeballed on the pressure gauge and cheap $20 scale, no fancy flow rate scale). I have the expansion valve dialled in for 10 bar with a blind basket. When I pull the shot if it is consistently pinned at 10 bar then I'll stop the shot a few grams short. If it's flowing fast and struggling to maintain 9 bar (hovering around 8-9 bar) then I'll keep going a few grams longer. Between this strategy and starting my grind setting (on my Niche Zero) right in the middle of the espresso range for each new coffee I've found I don't waste any shots anymore. Basically every single shot comes out drinkable at a bare minimum, with only minor tweaks needed to get it perfect!
Fantastic review!!! I’d also recommend the robot mittens, they make a big difference in the hand. As a robot owner, I bought the thundies and wouldn’t recommend them. They leak because of the material if you let it sit on your countertop… ask me how I know. I have a small hack using a Breville Dual Boiler disc (which Lance also covered) but it’s nice that Cafelat came up with something!
As a dark roast drinker I’ve never found the need for the gauge or to weigh the pour. In terms of dialing in the espresso you didn’t mention changing the dose, only the grind. I find it easier to move the dose weight up or down, finding great results in a range between 13-19 grams. If the new coffee is radically different from the previous batch I will then consider a grind change, but I generally stick to the same family of roasts as I cannot abide light roasts.
I was wondering when someone would comment about dialing by dose 😆☕️ You’re totally right but I had to draw the line somewhere or the video would have ended up much longer! 🤣It’s particularly easy with the robots basket design vs other machines. It’s a credit to the robot that it’s got so much flexibility and “positives” that I couldn’t include them all!
I bought the plug + an extra basket as my preheating method while I prepare the other basket with coffee. The extra basket is also nice to have when making multiple espressos back to back. I love how all the comments here are from robot owners praising the machine.
I've had mine for over 2 years now and it's still my favourite piece of equipment to use. I'd recommend using a rubber band to hold up the arms when you're not pushing down on them. Makes the workflow a lot cleaner and simpler. I also use an aeropress rubber end inside the portafilter end. Works great if you didn't get the official preheating piece! Unfortunately yet to find a milk steamer that doesn't suck. My nanofoamer pro has so many issues after using it for only 6 months..
Agreed, foam is cappuccino quality in the pitcher style frothers at best. Meticulous espresso is kickstarting a standalone steam wand and you can check out The Morning Dream steam wand as well. The Niche Zero + StaggEKG + Robot + steam wand is a quite powerful home cafe.
If you’re looking to steam milk yourself (and ok with a bit of time and faff), the Bellman is a good option. It’s not cheap ($120 I believe?) but it’s bullet proof, simple, and I’m convinced that mine will still work long after I’m dead.
This is the only standalone electric standalone steamer I’ve seen that interests me, haven’t really seen anything like this up until I had this vid suggested to me ruclips.net/video/3wWuviBgcQI/видео.htmlsi=Fy45MrXKSkhXyZpO
I highly recommend G3061 PD65W Mini Soldering plate to preheat the piston. It is very cheap and compact available on ebay and Ali express . I used an old USB C laptop charging unit to get 20v input. The PID to set a specific temperature. It is much better to hit higher brewing temperatures > 93 C than just the silicon plug that I also own. Plus better work flow.
@markn.7785 yes it is almost exactly the same size as the piston so it gets heated evenly. Of course you need to find something to elevate it to the level of the piston. I just put a small mason jar underneath it
If you can tolerate the ultra-manual nature of it, I'd get a 1zPresso K-Ultra or similar hand grinder. It takes up zero dedicated counter space. BTW, I really recommend getting the little donuts that fit into the ends of the handles. They make it SOOOO much more comfortable to use, IMO. That leveling tamper is really nice, although it doesn't fit tight the way a Reg Barber would have. The leveling is awesome, though.
My Robot is the best espresso machine. It’s difficult to pull a bad shot with this because it’s so forgiving. The only maintenance required is that every couple of years you might have to change the gasket and the replacement is included. You don’t have to worry about what water you use because the water never runs through the machine. I was concerned because I’m 5 feet tall and 97 pounds, but I found that standing on a stool gives me the leverage I need. I did have to upgrade my grinder from the OXO to the Niche Zero. I also purchased the Commandante C40 as a backup.
For preheat i place the portafilter with the basket upside down on top of the kettle, so that it's over the holes where the steam comes out of. By the time the water is boiling for a minute, it's already super hot, hotter than if you filled it water, and you don't have to waste your nice coffee water. This doesn't heat the piston, of course.
You forgot a category of people that may find that machine attractive. The kind that appreciates the way products were manufactured back in the old days: made to survive. I feel like this machine was an investment. Measuring the price of this machine by looking at dollar per espresso shot, it will just keep on dropping with simple care. The robot is my first espresso device and I thought this would be a step to a pump machine. I couldn't have been more wrong. The only machine that I'm currently considering buying one day is the Strietman CT2. It gives me the same vibe with the convenience of a built in open boiler and the taste profile that comes with 49mm baskets. Not to mention that it's another art piece in the kitchen that I can probably pass down to my children or grandchildren. These devices will tell a story. A Linea Micra will probably end up in an attic one day. It might take a while, but it's inevitable.
This is a generational machine. There's no electronics to break, there's no need to descale, the only consumable is the silicone gasket that lasts years, I'm still on my first after 2 years of daily shots.
Additional tips: 1. Preheat by pouring boiling water on your portafilter (handle, basket and puck screen) in your drinking cup. I took a while to find a cup that fits under the Robot and hold the portafilter. This way, you get to heat your cup too. I am currently using Bialetti 170 mL Capuccino Cup. Fits perfectly under the Robot and on the Wacacao mini scale at the same time. 2. Measure the water in the portafilter. Try not to eyeball the depth. It will keep your shot way more consistent. 3. When you press, if you feel yourself pressing hard and the water still flows smoothly and easily enough, it IS 8 bars. This is for those who really don’t want to buy the pressure gauge. If it is concrete-feeling, it is 12 bars already. If you feel that it is hard, it is overly done for sure. Timing-wise, I am doing under 5 minutes. The milk is the one that takes time and vexed me for so long until this year. I nearly bought an electric espresso machine. But Subminimal release the new Nanofoamer Pro and that changes everything. I dare say the Pro jug does better milk than a beginner on a boiler machine. It probably does milk better than Bambino Plus (which does better milk than other entry level espresso machine according to James Hoffman).
Nanofoamer Pro has plenty of alternatives. Many companies released similar frothers and even better ones. I bought recently Subminimal lithium frother and Im disappointed because it is not better than cheap frothers. Or maybe I didn’t learn how to froth properly with it but my first attempt was disappointing.
I would prefer one with a heater and PID. Can't cost that much to add them since everything else is so simple, but it solves the heating problem and really helps with lighter roasts. It won't look as simple or cute though.
Awesome review, I can't wait to get one. I read that pouring boiling water onto coffee for espresso is the equivalent of having a shower that starts with boiling water and then cools down. Is this analogy true?
If I weren't paying enough attention the part at 3:35 would leave me so confused - it's an out of place cut, you don't want to have the silicon plug in _while_ you are making espresso 😅
These are for beginners that one simply wake up and make a cup of espresso, these are for coffee enthusiast and that was that enjoy the process. Beginners can buy themselves $150 machine which are absolutely fantastic.
Any thoughts on how a Strietman CT2 Lever espresso would compare to the Robot? I know that the CT2 is about 3.5K CAD vs 550 CAD for the Robot but would the CT2 be like an end game version?
Man, the Strietman is a true endgame machine if you have the appetite to use these types of machines. That being said, the robot gets you a LOT of the way there for a lot less money. One day I hope to own a Strietman. Also working on a cremina for the new year. I know I do a lot with pump machines on here but manual direct levers are my roots. ☕️
Finally a good review of the robot! Will probably buy me one during holiday season though.. , I saw that Orphan Espresso has some very nice accessories for the robot! Worth checking it out 😊. But what do you think about the "Meticulous"? Could this be worth considering? It is way more expensive though...
Hey! I saw your video about the rokpresso like years and years ago, do you think it can compete against the robot since it uses a normal portafilter and could be used with a 51mm basket
You say about not being able to pre heat the spouts with the plug, but that's not entirely true...kinda. You can fit the plug into the spouts themselves and use the portafilter sans basket to preheat the piston, which allows you to actually have the piston submerged in boiling water similar to the thundies. This means you can do all of your basket prep in advance, although you can't preheat the basket at the same time, so it depends where your priorities lie in peak temp vs temp stability. I'd say the piston arguably has more impact. You can however pre heat the basket after it's prepped by doing an overflow pour. Fill it over the sink, and just keep pouring so that it overflows for a while. Just be careful to have it tilted away from your hand, I did scald myself when I wasn't laying atte to once.
Dont fill the basket to the top with hot water. Leave 1cm of room, that way the piston will not touch the water and soak next to nothing heat from it (the silicon ring seals air tight so when you are pushing down you are actually pushing down the air and the water with it).
the robot is not available where I live, only the flair pro 3. May I ask which one is easier to press and how is the quality of the shots from this 2 devices compared?
The design of the flair (longer lever, better handle) makes it easier to press. The flair pro also has electric heating so you have to worry less about finding ways to heat it up. The quality of the coffee will depend entirely on the quality of the beans, of the grinder and your ability. Lever machines differ in workflow, not really in what results are achievable.
Get the flair 58 (used) or 58+. I have flair 58+ and flair pro 2. I always grab the flair 58+ - electric preheat, easy to clean, back to back shot,etc…
got a robot recently and i love the shots so far. Have noticed one issue though. Have been grinding my coffee with an 1zpresso J ultra, which definitely can grind fine enough. I kept grinding finer and finer and my shots kept pouring out hitting at most 5 bar. Was reading around and found out that the cafelat robot has some puck lift issues where preinfusing with low pressure 4-5 bar can make water go under the puck and just flow right through. Since then I've been ramping up pressure immediately to 7-9 bars for preinfusion before tapering down to 6 bars and the shots pull much better, grinds have gone back coarser as well. Just a weird quirk which I'm not sure is a common issue across all Robots
Thanks! Very timely! Excellent content for those looking to purchase a Robot! Much appreciated! 👏👏 Question: Do you always use a paper filter? Or just for lighter roasts? Thanks!!
Ok, stupid question. I KSed the Meticulous. I hadn't espresso'd much, only at cafes and then filter brews at home, so I wasn't fussed about the wait and it seemed cool. Recently the algorithm has been throwing Robot videos at me, I'd forgotten how nifty it is (I wasn't looking to get into espresso when I first became aware of it), and I've got some holiday funds flexibility because there wasn't really anything to tell my partner I wanted. But is there any point to it if I'm getting a Meticulous (beyond the I-own-something-cool factor)? Like, I didn't mind having an Aeropress, a V60, a French press, and a moka pot as they're all so different. Plenty of people have more than one way to brew espresso because they are aficionados and see their machines as doing different things. But the Meticulous is a lever espresso machine. Is the Robot essentially the same thing minus water heating and computer control?
I don't understand why this gives you more control than a pump machine? We have pump machines with flow control and pressure profiling such as the Decent. The machine you show in this video even has a flow control paddle. Why can't you achieve the same or similar results using those?
It's hard to explain, but you can actually feel what's going on in the shot through your arms with a direct lever machine. You can tell when the puck starts to degrade or when channeling begins and adjust the pressure in real time by feel. You aren't waiting for the feedback of seeing the flow rate or what's going on at the bottom of the portafilter.
Why do people heat the metal that never touches the brewing water, like pouring hot water down the inside of the machine? Did they miss that day of third grade thermodynamics?
The only thing prevented me from purchasing a robot is the aesthetic. I don't like the cartoony look. I prefer a more geometric/streamline modern design language. I wish they release this type of version. Well, to each their own I guess...
Disclaimer @ 0:23 - This unit was sent to me by Cafune.ca. 😎 If you'd like additional context, thanks for leaving a comment! Nobody (Cafune or Cafelat included) pays me for, sees ahead of time, approves, or otherwise has control over my product reviews. Everybody sees my reviews at the same time, when they are released:) Like many other creators, I use affiliate links in the description - labelled ofc! I'm just a fan of manual direct levers, although I would be remiss to not point out that my longest chapters were "negatives" of this and similar espresso makers
Just looking at your video makes me already tired. For that reason I quit manual and semi automatic machine. I’m now using delonghi dinamica plus full auto. I know it tastes just ok not super great but it is acceptable for me. Live simple life :)
I don't like to throw names or call anybody a liar - But maybe... just maybe the $5,000 espresso machine needs repairs or the user behind needs to revalue his/her skills - I call this a cap
Mmmm I wouldn't say so, I think you can probably push espresso much further on a direct lever machine cuz you can profile your shots much more than on a pump machine. Unless it's something like a Decent De1.
@@stephensmirke2146 I'd argue design and build quality are in there too. But yea I'm off the camp, that spending money on grinders makes way more sense than on the machine. I can get the same or even better cup from my 500€ gaggia as I can get in some Cafés.
@@stephensmirke2146 Do you feel attacked ? - All I'm saying is, there's no way in the world that a $5k machine considered Endgame for many enthusiastic coffee lovers would be less than a $500 manual machine - This is a clickbait and you know very well, let's wait and see which one he decides to stick with.
I call this a cope 😉 Maybe just maybe some people might get defensive because they spent much more money partly to feel superior and yet there are people who spent way less and are having fun and getting similar results. I tease ❤
Wow! Better than La Marzocco? Yeah! Right! People do everything for money, include reviews like this one. Every day get out home a wise guy and a lot of suckers . Which one you gonna be?
Having pulled shots on a $25000 LM Strada and a Robot, I can assure you he's not the sucker in this scenario. The Robot gives you much greater control in real time.
@ a breville bambino is 299 steams and makes espresso without you needing a kettle to heat up water. This makes great espresso but it’s simple to manufacture (no electronics). It should cost 299 period.
@@yerrazo By your logic every single electric espresso machine is overpriced , because why do we need 4000 dollar machines when a 299 dollar can 'make espresso and steam milk' ? If you have seen this machine or used it, which I am pretty sure you haven't, you would have known about the quality of materials that went into it. Paul could underprice it because, he assembles them himself. Manual machines like 9barista, olympia mina, which only 'makes espresso and doesn't steam' are more expensive. It's about craftsmanship and quality of materials, but pretty sure you know none of it, because you don't even know anything about espresso.
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Another plus; My Robot is from 2018 and it has never failed on me or broken down. It is a tank. And I use it several times a day. The only thing that will wear is the silicone ring. I have to replace it once in a half year. And after more than six years I still love it. With all the variables I keep on learning.
I concur. It's amazing and I too bought mine in 2018. Sometimes my silicone ring last longer than 6 months. I've had a couple last more than year. For people wondering, the silicone ring stretches out over time due to heat and eventually interferes with attaching the portafilter. It takes a little over a minute to replace. The Cafelat Robot is so incredibly easy and simple to maintain.
Interesting, I’m coming up to 5 years on my first gasket! A couple of weeks ago I had 2 slight leaks of straight water and thought it was time for a change, but in the end it only needed a clean as there were grounds stuck underneath and was causing misalignment.
@@88sstraight I suppose it's not about the time but how often you use your Robot. I use mine twice a day, 7 days a week on average.
@@davidhunternyc1 Between 2 and 3 times a day for me : ) I think it dark roast vs light roast plays a part.
Watching this the day after my 2 month old dream espresso machine stopped working 😂😂
Went into the espresso rabbit hole a couple of months ago, bought a robot... And man oh man :) wonderful coffee and just a joy to use. Thanks for the great video!
I've owned a Robot for 4 years nows. You actually get better and more consistent. It's surprised me just how much learning has occurred! And now 9 bar is easy since I grew the right muscles. :)
Your review is spot on. I bought the robot about 5 months ago to replace my Gaggia classic pro and have been very happy with the decision. To preheat I place the basket and portafilter holder on top of my water kettle and let the steam heat it. Glad to hear you enjoyed the robot as much as I have.
I also love my Cafelat Robot. It replaced my pump machine I had for over a decade and makes even more delicious espresso. A huge plus for me is that it is always ready. It doesn't have a water tank that needs heating and it super easy too clean. That makes me use it more often and enjoy more espresso every day. From needing/wanting espresso to drinking high quality espresso in 3-4 minutes is a blessing!
I've enjoyed my robot for nearly three years now.
5-6 bar is ideal IMO. Anything over 7 bar is unnecessarily excessive and a true workout. The mittens make the pressing experience far easier on one's hands.
It's a delightful minimalist way to make true espresso. The only departure from stock I've done is adding a tiny mirror (3D printed by a UK robot fan) that fits on the stock barista gage.
It's practically zero maintenance. No descaling. Just a modest occasional wipedown and you're done.
In lieu of the PF plug for preheating, I just dump the hot water I've used to preheat my glass into the PF just prior to adding the grounds. Eazy peazy. And the piston doesn't contact the brew water do there's negligible heat loss there. If water is contacting the piston, you've filled the PF too high.
That was a very thorough and accurate review. 👊
Finally the praise it deserves.
Incredibly simple and sturdy machine, travels well, next to no maintenance necessary.
And: 2 minutes from zero to shot ready.
Amazing, I love it
Exactly. It's a design and ergonomic masterpiece without equal.
As a happy Robot owner who also pulls light-to-medium, I think you covered everything, including the downsides. As always, your reviews are so thorough. I will say that as a tall person, moving the pressure gauge to the top (which you can do with a cheap bracket or a printed part from Etsy) is really great - I can see the shot mirror, scale, and pressure gauge from one position, moving only my eyes.
This video inspired me to bust out my Robot. I had two shots go way too long from being ground too fine, but somehow both still tasted very very good. It’s incredible how forgiving it is and how much you can rescue almost anything. Great breakdown and video!
Quick tip with the paper filter: I prewet the paper and stick it to the dispersion screen before putting in the basket. Just an easy way to get it seated properly.
I think the Robot workflow is much easier than the Flair. To preheat, I just place a small diameter bowl of boiling water on top of a mug and slide it under so the piston is about 1-1.5 cm immersed and let it sit there for a minute. After making espresso, i slide the mug+bowl back under to help rinse off the piston before I wipe it down with a washcloth.
Ok for Flair58 you just click the button and this is harder?
@@pawel_890you have to plug it into power and you can't move it
Wherever this or the Flair go it has to be next to an outlet anyway bc it has to be next to an electric grinder and kettle.
@@anhtrang-yz1bs I've done hand grinder (both K-Ultra and J-Max) and stovetop kettle with the Robot. I have a gas stove and can literally pull shots during a power outage.
@@pawel_890 The Flair is excellent as well (I've used both), but more parts and tied to electricity. I've hand ground and camp stove boiled while car camping. Add a handheld nanofoamer and even better. The Flair does have the advantage of using more standardized parts, but do you need them?
solidifying my belief that this is the best upgrade for me.
This review matches my experience with this thing. I have owned a few machines in parallel. When I sold my Decent and had a LM Micra on order, we had the Robot on the counter for a few weeks. I was having a hard time justifying anything more. The Robot may just be the ultimate home espresso maker...
Wow that’s a huge compliment to the robot
Why did you sell the Decent?
Love my robot. Replaced my pump machine I had for a decade
YUP! ☕️☕️☕️
Snow! Love my Robot. The little pre-heat bung has made the most difference for me. I love the way it looks which I think helps with the taste :) I was suprised how simple it was to use and how I can get some really great coffee out of it. ( Also some really bad ones but we are all learning )
I just got one because I was getting tired of servicing and repairing my e61 dual boiler machine. It’s so much fun to use! Also goes great with the Dreo Barista Maker. By the time it’s done frothing, I’m done with a shot 😍
+1 the Dreo is a perfect pairing
Since i got my Robot I am so happy. So easy to dial in and get yummyest espresso! Amazing machine❤
They are so great!
my christmas present. So looking forward to this one
You’re going to love it ☕️
If you’re thinking of buying this, but you also want a milk steamer, look at the Bellman stovetop milk steamer. Also, for a hand grinder, I’d highly recommend the 1Zpresso J-Ultra. It’s designed for espresso. With that combination, you can make espresso most anywhere if you have camping stove to heat your water and use the steamer.
Milk? Just buy The Morning Dream milk steamer. It's a little bit expensive, but all in all: €400 Robot + €400 the morning dream = around €800. That's still cheaper than some single boilers, heat exchanhers and dual boilers
Had to laugh when he’s addressing people who are just getting into espresso and immediately shows him using a Webber grinder
The grinder he uses for his demonstration and on his counter next to him is a Zerno
Great video. Glad you got one. I have thundies 😂 I rarely use it and just save my lighter roasts for pourovers. I love my robot and have pulled over 2000 shots. I thinks it’s a great piece of engineering that really works. Awesome conversation piece too.
I pull my shots at eight to nine bars over about twenty seconds after a ten second pre soak. I adjust my grind to make this happen. Yes, you do have to really press down hard and yes, the handle ends do hurt a tiny bit.
you can avoid this and get better espresso by topping out at 6 bars and then letting the pressure decline naturally as you keep a constant flow rate.
got my robot in 2019 and it's made me multiple delicious cups a day since. I'm getting an argos for easier milk drinks, but it's earned a permanent spot on the counter. Even when using a Bellman for steamed milk, it's just got such a nice workflow, it's so simple, it's extremely affordable for the coffee it makes... Just a great piece of equipment
My ex has over $40k in espresso machines with her Decent being her cheapest. I roast her coffee and have access to all her gear. But my Robot I preferred over all her gear so long as I'm making espresso for less than 3 people
I have one and a $12k machine among others. Robot has higher potential than my machines. I hope the meticulous can be as good as the robot but more consistent.
I’ve spent more than 10k on multiple espresso machines including a custom built lever machine and guess what…. In the beginning I liked the BLING and I naively thought spending more money would also equal way better espresso…. “Totally wrong!” I’m downgrading to a robot or similar and going to pair it with a grinder that’s around 3k. The biggest “game changer” for me, that was not mentioned in the video, is custom water. With a boiler you have to worry about the water you put in it and definitely avoid stuff like calcium chloride or potassium bicarbonate. With any machine like this I can tweak the water without worry and the results are better espresso than I could ever imagine with any boiler machine, + no maintenance. Downgrading your water but upgrading your espresso machine is a hurdle that can never be overcome , whether you realize this or not your coffee will always suffer. It just took a lot of $$$$$ and 20 years of palette development to figure this out. Great review
@@Wheresthesoul Yes! I use different water for my big espresso machine, but I recently got the robot and it’s really nice to use the same water I brew pour over with.
I have a question about this. If I am making an Americano, if I use no mineral water for the espresso, but add treated water for the Americano does that make the same cup as brewing with the mineral water?
@@samwise2010 minerals in the coffee extract coffee differently. If you pull a shot with something like distilled water (which is also hard on your boiler) and then add mineralized water to your espresso is will taste a bit differently than just brewing with mineral water from the beginning, also the ration of minerals and ppm or strength will be different. Depending on your tastebuds it could taste drastically different or just a little. But as long as it tastes good to you.
@@EeeTeePwnHome nice! Or it can give you a whole new take on medium dark roasts. Because you can up the mineral strength or PPM without worrying about the boiler = more sweetness and chocolate notes minus some of those bitter or burnt notes you would get with a lower PPM water you would most likely use for pourover.
Thanks Justin for reviewing my favorite coffee thing! One tip to view the pressure gauge…. Turn the robot/gauge away from you so when you are pressing down, you can look overtop at it (that’s what I do)…. Super easy especially if it’s on a table or a lower surface.
Also shout out to Cafune they treated me very well when I bought mine, great shop! Thanks again I love your content! From another Canadian coffee loving dad.
Great Review! After doing a lot of research, the Robot is my first and only espresso machine and I don’t see myself buying a semi-auto machine in the future. One thing I‘m currently thinking about is to pick up a second basket to make pulling multiple shots a bit more streamlined. Highly recommend the Robot, as seemingly everyone else in this comment section haha.
Exactly the same for me. I did buy a second basket and it really speeds up the workflow pulling a second shot, well worth the money I found.
In addition to a machine with an E61 group, I've owned a Robot since it was first released (first one without a pressure gauge, then one with a pressure gauge, not essential but very useful for flow profiling). It's absolutely brilliant! My only regret is that Cafelat didn't bring out a basket (in option) that can be filled to 7-9g for single shots.
I have a pump machine (Lelit MaraX) and have had my eye on lever machines for a long time. You mentioned the ability to save shots mid-flow as a benefit of a manual lever. I actually have learned to save my shots on the lever machine by pulling longer/shorter based on how much pressure and flow rate is being maintained (entirely eyeballed on the pressure gauge and cheap $20 scale, no fancy flow rate scale). I have the expansion valve dialled in for 10 bar with a blind basket. When I pull the shot if it is consistently pinned at 10 bar then I'll stop the shot a few grams short. If it's flowing fast and struggling to maintain 9 bar (hovering around 8-9 bar) then I'll keep going a few grams longer. Between this strategy and starting my grind setting (on my Niche Zero) right in the middle of the espresso range for each new coffee I've found I don't waste any shots anymore. Basically every single shot comes out drinkable at a bare minimum, with only minor tweaks needed to get it perfect!
Fantastic review!!! I’d also recommend the robot mittens, they make a big difference in the hand.
As a robot owner, I bought the thundies and wouldn’t recommend them. They leak because of the material if you let it sit on your countertop… ask me how I know. I have a small hack using a Breville Dual Boiler disc (which Lance also covered) but it’s nice that Cafelat came up with something!
As a dark roast drinker I’ve never found the need for the gauge or to weigh the pour. In terms of dialing in the espresso you didn’t mention changing the dose, only the grind. I find it easier to move the dose weight up or down, finding great results in a range between 13-19 grams. If the new coffee is radically different from the previous batch I will then consider a grind change, but I generally stick to the same family of roasts as I cannot abide light roasts.
I was wondering when someone would comment about dialing by dose 😆☕️ You’re totally right but I had to draw the line somewhere or the video would have ended up much longer! 🤣It’s particularly easy with the robots basket design vs other machines. It’s a credit to the robot that it’s got so much flexibility and “positives” that I couldn’t include them all!
@@DaddyGotCoffee Cheers, thanks for highlighting such a great machine!
Finally! Love my robot and I am certain it will be passed down to the kids because it won’t die.
I bought the plug + an extra basket as my preheating method while I prepare the other basket with coffee. The extra basket is also nice to have when making multiple espressos back to back.
I love how all the comments here are from robot owners praising the machine.
I've had mine for over 2 years now and it's still my favourite piece of equipment to use. I'd recommend using a rubber band to hold up the arms when you're not pushing down on them. Makes the workflow a lot cleaner and simpler. I also use an aeropress rubber end inside the portafilter end. Works great if you didn't get the official preheating piece!
Unfortunately yet to find a milk steamer that doesn't suck. My nanofoamer pro has so many issues after using it for only 6 months..
Agreed, foam is cappuccino quality in the pitcher style frothers at best. Meticulous espresso is kickstarting a standalone steam wand and you can check out The Morning Dream steam wand as well.
The Niche Zero + StaggEKG + Robot + steam wand is a quite powerful home cafe.
If you’re looking to steam milk yourself (and ok with a bit of time and faff), the Bellman is a good option. It’s not cheap ($120 I believe?) but it’s bullet proof, simple, and I’m convinced that mine will still work long after I’m dead.
This is the only standalone electric standalone steamer I’ve seen that interests me, haven’t really seen anything like this up until I had this vid suggested to me
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I highly recommend G3061 PD65W Mini Soldering plate to preheat the piston. It is very cheap and compact available on ebay and Ali express . I used an old USB C laptop charging unit to get 20v input. The PID to set a specific temperature. It is much better to hit higher brewing temperatures > 93 C than just the silicon plug that I also own. Plus better work flow.
Interesting - but how do you preheat the piston with that plate? You just put it underneath?
@markn.7785 yes it is almost exactly the same size as the piston so it gets heated evenly. Of course you need to find something to elevate it to the level of the piston. I just put a small mason jar underneath it
I love my robot. I recently got a pump system and I can’t make as good a shot with it as I can with the robot
If you can tolerate the ultra-manual nature of it, I'd get a 1zPresso K-Ultra or similar hand grinder. It takes up zero dedicated counter space. BTW, I really recommend getting the little donuts that fit into the ends of the handles. They make it SOOOO much more comfortable to use, IMO. That leveling tamper is really nice, although it doesn't fit tight the way a Reg Barber would have. The leveling is awesome, though.
How much snow came down while filming that review? Heavy, heavy by the end (for a UK gent at least). Thanks for the review,.
My Robot is the best espresso machine. It’s difficult to pull a bad shot with this because it’s so forgiving. The only maintenance required is that every couple of years you might have to change the gasket and the replacement is included. You don’t have to worry about what water you use because the water never runs through the machine. I was concerned because I’m 5 feet tall and 97 pounds, but I found that standing on a stool gives me the leverage I need. I did have to upgrade my grinder from the OXO to the Niche Zero. I also purchased the Commandante C40 as a backup.
Sold, cute, charming, heartwarming little espresso machine, sweetly done and marvelously fun video. Merry Christmas
Thanks so much! Merry Christmas to you too!
And thank you Justin! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to you too! You’re welcome!!
For preheat i place the portafilter with the basket upside down on top of the kettle, so that it's over the holes where the steam comes out of. By the time the water is boiling for a minute, it's already super hot, hotter than if you filled it water, and you don't have to waste your nice coffee water. This doesn't heat the piston, of course.
You forgot a category of people that may find that machine attractive. The kind that appreciates the way products were manufactured back in the old days: made to survive.
I feel like this machine was an investment. Measuring the price of this machine by looking at dollar per espresso shot, it will just keep on dropping with simple care.
The robot is my first espresso device and I thought this would be a step to a pump machine. I couldn't have been more wrong. The only machine that I'm currently considering buying one day is the Strietman CT2. It gives me the same vibe with the convenience of a built in open boiler and the taste profile that comes with 49mm baskets. Not to mention that it's another art piece in the kitchen that I can probably pass down to my children or grandchildren.
These devices will tell a story. A Linea Micra will probably end up in an attic one day. It might take a while, but it's inevitable.
This is a generational machine. There's no electronics to break, there's no need to descale, the only consumable is the silicone gasket that lasts years, I'm still on my first after 2 years of daily shots.
I would love to see a comparison between this and the Flair Pro 3
Hi, nice review, what's burrs are you using in your zerno ? Thanks !
I switch em up all the time but currently, HU. I’m dropping a video next weekend on all the equipment that is part of my “daily use” and why! ☺️☕️
Additional tips:
1. Preheat by pouring boiling water on your portafilter (handle, basket and puck screen) in your drinking cup. I took a while to find a cup that fits under the Robot and hold the portafilter. This way, you get to heat your cup too. I am currently using Bialetti 170 mL Capuccino Cup. Fits perfectly under the Robot and on the Wacacao mini scale at the same time.
2. Measure the water in the portafilter. Try not to eyeball the depth. It will keep your shot way more consistent.
3. When you press, if you feel yourself pressing hard and the water still flows smoothly and easily enough, it IS 8 bars. This is for those who really don’t want to buy the pressure gauge.
If it is concrete-feeling, it is 12 bars already. If you feel that it is hard, it is overly done for sure.
Timing-wise, I am doing under 5 minutes.
The milk is the one that takes time and vexed me for so long until this year. I nearly bought an electric espresso machine. But Subminimal release the new Nanofoamer Pro and that changes everything. I dare say the Pro jug does better milk than a beginner on a boiler machine. It probably does milk better than Bambino Plus (which does better milk than other entry level espresso machine according to James Hoffman).
Nanofoamer Pro has plenty of alternatives. Many companies released similar frothers and even better ones. I bought recently Subminimal lithium frother and Im disappointed because it is not better than cheap frothers. Or maybe I didn’t learn how to froth properly with it but my first attempt was disappointing.
I would prefer one with a heater and PID. Can't cost that much to add them since everything else is so simple, but it solves the heating problem and really helps with lighter roasts. It won't look as simple or cute though.
Awesome review, I can't wait to get one. I read that pouring boiling water onto coffee for espresso is the equivalent of having a shower that starts with boiling water and then cools down. Is this analogy true?
If I weren't paying enough attention the part at 3:35 would leave me so confused - it's an out of place cut, you don't want to have the silicon plug in _while_ you are making espresso 😅
Good spot! I saw that and had a WTF moment - the shower screen can even be seen lurking in the background.
These are for beginners that one simply wake up and make a cup of espresso, these are for coffee enthusiast and that was that enjoy the process. Beginners can buy themselves $150 machine which are absolutely fantastic.
Any thoughts on how a Strietman CT2 Lever espresso would compare to the Robot? I know that the CT2 is about 3.5K CAD vs 550 CAD for the Robot but would the CT2 be like an end game version?
Man, the Strietman is a true endgame machine if you have the appetite to use these types of machines. That being said, the robot gets you a LOT of the way there for a lot less money. One day I hope to own a Strietman. Also working on a cremina for the new year. I know I do a lot with pump machines on here but manual direct levers are my roots. ☕️
Finally a good review of the robot! Will probably buy me one during holiday season though.. , I saw that Orphan Espresso has some very nice accessories for the robot! Worth checking it out 😊. But what do you think about the "Meticulous"? Could this be worth considering? It is way more expensive though...
Lever is beder!
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Hey! I saw your video about the rokpresso like years and years ago, do you think it can compete against the robot since it uses a normal portafilter and could be used with a 51mm basket
You say about not being able to pre heat the spouts with the plug, but that's not entirely true...kinda. You can fit the plug into the spouts themselves and use the portafilter sans basket to preheat the piston, which allows you to actually have the piston submerged in boiling water similar to the thundies. This means you can do all of your basket prep in advance, although you can't preheat the basket at the same time, so it depends where your priorities lie in peak temp vs temp stability. I'd say the piston arguably has more impact.
You can however pre heat the basket after it's prepped by doing an overflow pour. Fill it over the sink, and just keep pouring so that it overflows for a while. Just be careful to have it tilted away from your hand, I did scald myself when I wasn't laying atte to once.
Ive seen this compared to the Flair 58. I know you do not like the aesthetics of the Flair but I am curious what you think about the final product?
Flair 58 is fantastic. The cups out of it are on par with the robot for sure. If anything the actively heated group improves on some things
Dont fill the basket to the top with hot water. Leave 1cm of room, that way the piston will not touch the water and soak next to nothing heat from it (the silicon ring seals air tight so when you are pushing down you are actually pushing down the air and the water with it).
the robot is not available where I live, only the flair pro 3. May I ask which one is easier to press and how is the quality of the shots from this 2 devices compared?
The design of the flair (longer lever, better handle) makes it easier to press. The flair pro also has electric heating so you have to worry less about finding ways to heat it up. The quality of the coffee will depend entirely on the quality of the beans, of the grinder and your ability. Lever machines differ in workflow, not really in what results are achievable.
Get the flair 58 (used) or 58+. I have flair 58+ and flair pro 2. I always grab the flair 58+ - electric preheat, easy to clean, back to back shot,etc…
Super cute and aesthetic
Total charmer!!
got a robot recently and i love the shots so far. Have noticed one issue though. Have been grinding my coffee with an 1zpresso J ultra, which definitely can grind fine enough. I kept grinding finer and finer and my shots kept pouring out hitting at most 5 bar. Was reading around and found out that the cafelat robot has some puck lift issues where preinfusing with low pressure 4-5 bar can make water go under the puck and just flow right through. Since then I've been ramping up pressure immediately to 7-9 bars for preinfusion before tapering down to 6 bars and the shots pull much better, grinds have gone back coarser as well. Just a weird quirk which I'm not sure is a common issue across all Robots
That’s weird I’ve never had that problem
Good but he gives off Paul Giamatti in Sideways vibes a little too strongly at times. Neat product.
Thanks! Very timely! Excellent content for those looking to purchase a Robot! Much appreciated! 👏👏
Question: Do you always use a paper filter? Or just for lighter roasts? Thanks!!
I don't think they are necessary. I get amazing shots without them at any roast level!
I always use one but I think the most significant impact is how it keeps the shower screen clean 🤣☕️
Thanks for a good review! How does the Cafelat Robot compare to the Flair 58…? Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from Sweden!
Uniterra Nomad review, please! Surprisingly good, imo.
Ok, stupid question. I KSed the Meticulous. I hadn't espresso'd much, only at cafes and then filter brews at home, so I wasn't fussed about the wait and it seemed cool. Recently the algorithm has been throwing Robot videos at me, I'd forgotten how nifty it is (I wasn't looking to get into espresso when I first became aware of it), and I've got some holiday funds flexibility because there wasn't really anything to tell my partner I wanted. But is there any point to it if I'm getting a Meticulous (beyond the I-own-something-cool factor)? Like, I didn't mind having an Aeropress, a V60, a French press, and a moka pot as they're all so different. Plenty of people have more than one way to brew espresso because they are aficionados and see their machines as doing different things. But the Meticulous is a lever espresso machine. Is the Robot essentially the same thing minus water heating and computer control?
Now you won't get burned using the robot. That is an issue with the flair series.
Great video... Have you tried the ROK Smartshot??...it looks very interesting and affordable...pf
it's snowing
Robot vs flair 58?
I don't understand why this gives you more control than a pump machine? We have pump machines with flow control and pressure profiling such as the Decent. The machine you show in this video even has a flow control paddle. Why can't you achieve the same or similar results using those?
It's hard to explain, but you can actually feel what's going on in the shot through your arms with a direct lever machine. You can tell when the puck starts to degrade or when channeling begins and adjust the pressure in real time by feel. You aren't waiting for the feedback of seeing the flow rate or what's going on at the bottom of the portafilter.
Why do people heat the metal that never touches the brewing water, like pouring hot water down the inside of the machine? Did they miss that day of third grade thermodynamics?
I belong to neither of those two types of people
This is complicated
Find an old cremina simplify and enjoy.
What if I told you I had one on the way 👀☕️
@ i do have one 1984 perfection on every level and a joyful experience.
The only thing prevented me from purchasing a robot is the aesthetic. I don't like the cartoony look. I prefer a more geometric/streamline modern design language. I wish they release this type of version. Well, to each their own I guess...
I just sleep enough
Can I just say that you don’t really give a disclaimer about this review. Sounds like you were paid by them for this review
Disclaimer @ 0:23 - This unit was sent to me by Cafune.ca. 😎 If you'd like additional context, thanks for leaving a comment! Nobody (Cafune or Cafelat included) pays me for, sees ahead of time, approves, or otherwise has control over my product reviews. Everybody sees my reviews at the same time, when they are released:) Like many other creators, I use affiliate links in the description - labelled ofc!
I'm just a fan of manual direct levers, although I would be remiss to not point out that my longest chapters were "negatives" of this and similar espresso makers
Just looking at your video makes me already tired. For that reason I quit manual and semi automatic machine. I’m now using delonghi dinamica plus full auto. I know it tastes just ok not super great but it is acceptable for me. Live simple life :)
First... Lol
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I don't like to throw names or call anybody a liar - But maybe... just maybe the $5,000 espresso machine needs repairs or the user behind needs to revalue his/her skills - I call this a cap
Mmmm I wouldn't say so, I think you can probably push espresso much further on a direct lever machine cuz you can profile your shots much more than on a pump machine. Unless it's something like a Decent De1.
Maybe just maybe you are paying for a brand name and not the quality of the cup.
@@stephensmirke2146 I'd argue design and build quality are in there too. But yea I'm off the camp, that spending money on grinders makes way more sense than on the machine. I can get the same or even better cup from my 500€ gaggia as I can get in some Cafés.
@@stephensmirke2146 Do you feel attacked ? - All I'm saying is, there's no way in the world that a $5k machine considered Endgame for many enthusiastic coffee lovers would be less than a $500 manual machine - This is a clickbait and you know very well, let's wait and see which one he decides to stick with.
I call this a cope 😉
Maybe just maybe some people might get defensive because they spent much more money partly to feel superior and yet there are people who spent way less and are having fun and getting similar results.
I tease ❤
Wow! Better than La Marzocco? Yeah! Right! People do everything for money, include reviews like this one. Every day get out home a wise guy and a lot of suckers . Which one you gonna be?
Having pulled shots on a $25000 LM Strada and a Robot, I can assure you he's not the sucker in this scenario. The Robot gives you much greater control in real time.
Yeah. The Robot is really good piece of kit.
Btw. the most expensive part if espresso machines is the boiler and temperature control …
This tool should cost $299 usd max. It is overpriced.
It's literally under priced
@ a breville bambino is 299 steams and makes espresso without you needing a kettle to heat up water. This makes great espresso but it’s simple to manufacture (no electronics). It should cost 299 period.
@ its a good product but a money grab
@@yerrazo By your logic every single electric espresso machine is overpriced , because why do we need 4000 dollar machines when a 299 dollar can 'make espresso and steam milk' ? If you have seen this machine or used it, which I am pretty sure you haven't, you would have known about the quality of materials that went into it. Paul could underprice it because, he assembles them himself. Manual machines like 9barista, olympia mina, which only 'makes espresso and doesn't steam' are more expensive. It's about craftsmanship and quality of materials, but pretty sure you know none of it, because you don't even know anything about espresso.
@@kaziislam4130 don’t be a keyboard warrior now. You can debate a topic without getting personal. Just try it.
I refuse to many people’s machines as they rarely clean them. More people should own a robot.