I just bought a late 30s silvertone 2B with the gold plate trim and after watching this I'm even more excited for it to arrive! And I'll only be the second ever owner
My favorite review here so far. My favorite horn, by far. And the best performances I recall from you. Man, I dig listening to these samples. Great playing.
I picked up a 1939 2B Silvertone several years ago when I found myself playing lead in multiple big bands and needed something with more projection than my Conn 10H, and this horn cuts through and sails over the band beautifully when I need it to. I play it with a vintage Giardinelli 5M cup/shank section and a custom rim that’s a little narrower and more rounded thand the standard Giardinelli 5 rim.
Holy Shirt! I have to go back and listen to your jazz stuff from a couple of years ago, because the opening blew me away. I agree with Ken Hughes, that it would be neat to hear you play the Michael Davis Shires, and maybe the BAC Elliot Mason head to head. Give us some good listening, anyway.
Keith, you sound good on that 2BST. It definately sounds sweet. It would be good to hear you compare it to something like a Shires Michael Davis, particularly since he left his 2BSS when Shires crafted him his now horn. Anyways, a great review of a trombone with a superb pedigree.
Man that horn sounds rad! As a bass trombonist I admittedly don’t know a lot about the small bore vintage horns aside that the main players were Olds, King, and Conn. I’m trying to learn more about the different eras and models of those companies and videos like this are definitely very helpful. I’m a die-hard Shires fan for tenor and bass bone but when it comes to small bore it’s gotta be old horns. I actually used to own a Conn Victor USA from I believe the 60’s or 70’s, maybe 80’s? But through extreme misfortune it was stolen. I think about that horn a lot.
I too am a bass trombonist. I own a sterling silver, '66 Reynolds. I think they have become Olds. Anyhow, it sounds a lot like the King with the same husky, centered "dark" tone and you can whale on it without the tone breaking up. And it looks good, too. Maybe check that one out. There is also on one of the online shops a Reynolds, singer rotor Bass trombone wit a rose brass. One of the handsomest horns I have ever seen.
Great playing, Keith! I have a 2B 100 anniversary silversonic that I play frequently. It does take noticeably more effort for me to articulate the notes than my 2BL and 3B 125 anniversary model. I love my King trombones and use my 2BL Jiggs on most gigs. It is the ultimate!
I had one of these with gold engraving, it was superb, unfortunately I had to sell when I hit hard times, you sounding so good, love the smooth sound, and in the end that's all thst really matters
That’s the horn of that area of the big band ( Cadillac of trombones) for that soft and mellow sound of the dance band . H.N. White music company made a few musician very popular because of the King 2B trombone,just to name a few Tommy Dorsey, Glen Miller.
Does yours have the Pound Sterling stamp? I have a similar looking 2B Silvertone from 1942 or 1943 and I absolutely love it, but it doesn't have the stamp. It is in phenomenal shape and is my favorite horn. Did every silvertone with a sterling bell have the stamp? Is it possible that any work may have been done which may have removed the stamp? Where I think the stamp should be there are two little indentations which look like they could be the top and bottom of the stamp but I don't see any line through it. Is there any other way to determine if the bell is sterling or not? Weight perhaps? Thanks.
This model did have the "Sterling" stamp on it; all of the King sterling bells I have had in, going back to the late 1930's, have also had this stamp in a few different forms. While in my experience the stamp is fairly deep it could be possible to hide/degrade it if the bell were aggressively buffed during a relacquering and then heavily lacquered to further fill in the remaining stamp. As far as determining whether it is in fact sterling weight might be the best bet; in general I would say that, if King labeled it as a Silvertone then it is, however when we are looking at a potential wartime build the rules may well have been different...
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Thanks for the reply. As to the weight - do you know what the difference would be between a sterling silver bell and a silver plated and/or gold brass bell? I just weighed my 2B Silvertone and it is almost the exact same weight as my 2b Liberty. Thanks again!
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Does the Sterling Bell stamp indicate that it is a solid silver bell, or might it also appear on a silver plated bell? I just acquired a 1945 2B Silvertone and am trying to ascertain its exact makeup. By comparing serial numbers, I think this was made a couple of months before WWII ended.
Honestly, trombones make the least amount of difference when it comes to sound. You sound great. I think mouthpiece matters more than the horn. Bores and materials matter for the types of music you are playing, but I think they matter more for how they make the player feel while playing the horn. How you feel matters a lot when it comes to the music and sound you are creating.
I'm going to respectfully disagree, at least in part.. There's no question that the most important part of any playing equation on ANY instrument comes down to the individual behind the mouthpiece, keys, strings, you name it, but saying the trombone is the least affected by make/brand/etc. (for me) flies in the face of the reality of picking up a Conn 88H in the late 70s after playing any number of Yamahas, etc. The difference was real, and profound. Great players, always, but great trombones also make a difference, or I suspect Keith wouldn't be spending so much time trying to develop the Lake City brand. btw, the length of that first sentence indicates how much I (respectfully) disagreed with your statement. I didn't even put the words together in order.
Sweet dance band sounds. Lovely job Keith!
I just bought a late 30s silvertone 2B with the gold plate trim and after watching this I'm even more excited for it to arrive! And I'll only be the second ever owner
Congrats; sounds like a great instrument!
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Oh it is sooooo much better than I could've hoped for
Great sound along the tenor trombone spectrum!
Playing better and better
Sick playing.
My favorite review here so far. My favorite horn, by far. And the best performances I recall from you. Man, I dig listening to these samples. Great playing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I picked up a 1939 2B Silvertone several years ago when I found myself playing lead in multiple big bands and needed something with more projection than my Conn 10H, and this horn cuts through and sails over the band beautifully when I need it to. I play it with a vintage Giardinelli 5M cup/shank section and a custom rim that’s a little narrower and more rounded thand the standard Giardinelli 5 rim.
Thanks for sharing!
Holy Shirt! I have to go back and listen to your jazz stuff from a couple of years ago, because the opening blew me away. I agree with Ken Hughes, that it would be neat to hear you play the Michael Davis Shires, and maybe the BAC Elliot Mason head to head. Give us some good listening, anyway.
Keith, you sound good on that 2BST. It definately sounds sweet. It would be good to hear you compare it to something like a Shires Michael Davis, particularly since he left his 2BSS when Shires crafted him his now horn. Anyways, a great review of a trombone with a superb pedigree.
Man that horn sounds rad! As a bass trombonist I admittedly don’t know a lot about the small bore vintage horns aside that the main players were Olds, King, and Conn. I’m trying to learn more about the different eras and models of those companies and videos like this are definitely very helpful. I’m a die-hard Shires fan for tenor and bass bone but when it comes to small bore it’s gotta be old horns. I actually used to own a Conn Victor USA from I believe the 60’s or 70’s, maybe 80’s? But through extreme misfortune it was stolen.
I think about that horn a lot.
I too am a bass trombonist. I own a sterling silver, '66 Reynolds. I think they have become Olds. Anyhow, it sounds a lot like the King with the same husky, centered "dark" tone and you can whale on it without the tone breaking up. And it looks good, too. Maybe check that one out. There is also on one of the online shops a Reynolds, singer rotor Bass trombone wit a rose brass. One of the handsomest horns I have ever seen.
Great playing, Keith! I have a 2B 100 anniversary silversonic that I play frequently. It does take noticeably more effort for me to articulate the notes than my 2BL and 3B 125 anniversary model. I love my King trombones and use my 2BL Jiggs on most gigs. It is the ultimate!
Thanks so much for sharing!
Miler always played on a Bach 6, another great horn of that era
Very good playing Keith.
I had one of these with gold engraving, it was superb, unfortunately I had to sell when I hit hard times, you sounding so good, love the smooth sound, and in the end that's all thst really matters
About to buy one. What's a good price?
You sound amazing on such a great horn!
Thanks for watching!
The 🍖 has the best sound of all instruments…nice play!
Thanks for watching!
Hello
can you review a 3BF, please?
You sound great!
Thank you very much!
What's your recording setup - the quality of the audio is just superb, absolutely sublime.
Have you ever come across a King 2B Silvertone from 1938, that has 24-K gold accents and gold brass washed inner bell flare?
Absolutely beautiful trombone! Sounds incredible! Great playing! I kinda wanna play a 2B or 3B myself and see how they are. Good stuff, man! 😁👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
That’s the horn of that area of the big band ( Cadillac of trombones) for that soft and mellow sound of the dance band . H.N. White music company made a few musician very popular because of the King 2B trombone,just to name a few Tommy Dorsey, Glen Miller.
Dorsey always played King 2B. Miller played Vincent Bach.
How does sterling silver compare to plated silver?
Extremely well played and thank you very much for this review.
Were you just improvising? You sound great!
Does yours have the Pound Sterling stamp? I have a similar looking 2B Silvertone from 1942 or 1943 and I absolutely love it, but it doesn't have the stamp. It is in phenomenal shape and is my favorite horn. Did every silvertone with a sterling bell have the stamp? Is it possible that any work may have been done which may have removed the stamp? Where I think the stamp should be there are two little indentations which look like they could be the top and bottom of the stamp but I don't see any line through it. Is there any other way to determine if the bell is sterling or not? Weight perhaps? Thanks.
This model did have the "Sterling" stamp on it; all of the King sterling bells I have had in, going back to the late 1930's, have also had this stamp in a few different forms. While in my experience the stamp is fairly deep it could be possible to hide/degrade it if the bell were aggressively buffed during a relacquering and then heavily lacquered to further fill in the remaining stamp. As far as determining whether it is in fact sterling weight might be the best bet; in general I would say that, if King labeled it as a Silvertone then it is, however when we are looking at a potential wartime build the rules may well have been different...
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Thanks for the reply. As to the weight - do you know what the difference would be between a sterling silver bell and a silver plated and/or gold brass bell? I just weighed my 2B Silvertone and it is almost the exact same weight as my 2b Liberty. Thanks again!
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Does the Sterling Bell stamp indicate that it is a solid silver bell, or might it also appear on a silver plated bell? I just acquired a 1945 2B Silvertone and am trying to ascertain its exact makeup. By comparing serial numbers, I think this was made a couple of months before WWII ended.
Honestly, trombones make the least amount of difference when it comes to sound. You sound great. I think mouthpiece matters more than the horn. Bores and materials matter for the types of music you are playing, but I think they matter more for how they make the player feel while playing the horn. How you feel matters a lot when it comes to the music and sound you are creating.
I'm going to respectfully disagree, at least in part.. There's no question that the most important part of any playing equation on ANY instrument comes down to the individual behind the mouthpiece, keys, strings, you name it, but saying the trombone is the least affected by make/brand/etc. (for me) flies in the face of the reality of picking up a Conn 88H in the late 70s after playing any number of Yamahas, etc. The difference was real, and profound. Great players, always, but great trombones also make a difference, or I suspect Keith wouldn't be spending so much time trying to develop the Lake City brand. btw, the length of that first sentence indicates how much I (respectfully) disagreed with your statement. I didn't even put the words together in order.
jeez these things are tiny, just look at that slide bore!
Nah it's perfect