Ernst Roets in debate with Andile Mngxitama on racism in South Africa
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2017
- Watch this debate between AfriForum’s deputy CEO, Ernst Roets and the president of Black First Land First (BLF), Andile Mngxitama. Roets was arguing that racism is not as big a problem as some extremists would like us to believe, contrary to Mngxitama’s point, that South Africa is suffering under a scourge of anti-black racism. Subscribe to our channel and leave your comments below
listening to the rhetoric from BLF enrages me
Because you're a bloodsucker
Meneer Du toit do something about your rage start something you won't end
@@njabulontuli8217 YES BUILD ANOTHER SHACK YOU WONT GET THE LAND I PROMISE YOU THAT WE WILL FIGHT YOU DONT KNOW A BOER
This reporter ruined the whole debate.
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the interviewer is most certainly not behaving impartially as she should this is not a debate its a ambush. E News should seriously consider scripting their debates correctly with a IMPARTIAL person running the course of the debate as it is simply done from as low as high school level.
Is this debate between the Andie and Ernst or between the eNCA anchor and Ernst? Why does the anchor not allow Ernst to finish his responses?
Because she works for eNCA.
As a black person that attended multiracial schools in SA, i can sincerely say i have deep empathy for fellow black people that suffered during apartheid. But one thing i know is that for the black people who died for the end to segregation, we as black people show little respect to their legacy and indeed their lives when we do not show appreciation for where we are now. In no society can everyone of the same race be of the same economic or social level. There are poor whites as well as poor blacks. The fundamental truth is that the important social parameters that define our worth as human beings like the freedom to vote is common to all regardless of race. Let us please be respectful to the ones that died (which by the way also includes white people that were against the segregation) and get on with our lives. Let us help rid wide spread poverty among both black and whites. TIME FOR UNITY.
bannister james unity is great but it depends on balanced,civilised minds
How, is that going to be possible if one super rich through the sweat of the other and the other remains poor, then you expect unity
IamAman Dempisi
Therer we go, equality to be enforced by the government, equality being taking richer white peoples stuff, not rich black peoples stuff. I ponder do you want richer than average Indians stuff too? how about other nationalities? when you run out of people to blame will you blame the last of the farmers like one of the great socialists? that only landed up as a city VS country battle, the Russians starved tens of millions Ukranian farmers to death as they confiscated all the food to take to the city, because once people start living off of other peoples wealth and feel entitled to greed sets in and they want more until there is none.
Where are we because I don't see much difference since we don't have the land nor do we own any major stake in the country
Nomathemba Cele You are not owed anything, you have to work for the country to make it worth something, at the moment the leaders are leading it down a communist black hole coupled with Chinese ownership of what the people should build. There are too many people looking for what they believe they are owed but have never worked for it.
Wow what a mess. On another note, it's vital journalists need to stay impartial.
Awful ⁉️⁉️..
I didnt know if someone earns more than someone else then they are a racist. that is just crazy.
ALSO - the presenter should not have pushed her own agenda
She is NOT neutral AT all... but THAT in itself says a lot... 👀
Isabella Kleinhans: why should she be neutral, have you been this towards the Whites who are not neutral and prefer to keep all the land that is stolen land ???
Why is it so difficult to understand that steeling however it happened, it is theft ? Any time you Isabella are robbed and beaten, in your life time, you would want Justice.
Monarchial Entertainment, Barbados. You should really learn something about the history of SA before you open your mouth. Shit usually comes out at the other end.
Amazing how Andile believes his own lies. Amazing.
MARK WARREN its funny how yoi believ youre own lies since you all arivved in africa prbly
I was born here. Just like you. I don't live in the past, do you?
@@markwarren3631 yes we all do since the past itself was not corrected the only way we are going to be even, is the land reform
@@markwarren3631 You born here but you still white. So you don't belong in Africa.
@@hmos9145 AND YOU ALL YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO IS STEAL
if 2 babies were born in 1994 - 1 black and 1 white, now 20 years later after ANC took over, both these babies apply for a job at Public works, WHO WILL GET THE JOB? IS THERE EQUALITY?
we are not racist instead we assist poor people
GOOD FOR YOU RACISTS.
Strange how one debater is not interrupted by the interviewer while he speaks and the other debater is interrupted more than once. It appears to me that the interviewer is siding with one side. I thought that the interviewer, was supposed to remain neutral and be fair to both points of view
Yes because she is black
@Sabc thank you for all propaganda! So glad I don't pay my tv licence lol!!!
And I agree 100% that education that education is the biggest issue in this country not racism
His last comment: “We’re coming for your land, don’t worry .”
How can people deny that this is a coordinated effort towards genocide ~ when these people have shouted out loud what their plans are??? They’ve begun carrying them out over the last few years.
This world is so upside down.
I don’t care What color you are ~this is the 21st century
Enough of this barbaric behavior ~ it’s time for ALL of humanity to grow up!
Peace ✌🏻
its easy saying that now isn't it. why wasn't that barbaric behavior held back in the centuries prior ?
Just 25 years ago the injustices done to black people in their own land wasn't barbaric??? You people are so arrogant its sickening!!!!
It seems Andile can spew his racism and insults without interuption but Ernest is interupted everytime he wants to quote facts.....is the presenter neutral?
Alles behalwe neutral swaer.
Ony whites can be racist it seem
Andile cannot be racist
What a load of nonsense
Get your spelling right..
@John Ferreira I hope you experience home-invasion. I hope that you're mocked when you protest what's happening...I hope that you're beaten into submission...and I hope that you remain completely powerless to stop it.
I hope that the people that invade your spot put their names on your deed, and give themselves your national name, and make your ilk to be a pestilence and undesirable, even to your own.
I hope and wish so much for you that you condone when it happens to others.
I hope that one day you can know the filth that you support.
I hope a filthy, thug, terrorist, gang...does you like you say is A-OK for these filthy, thug, terrorist, gangsters to do to South Africans.
Hold the faith Black People.
InformationIs Immortal
My remark is not about racism or history, it is about being rude. Go spew your bitterness against the right people. You don' t know my history. Fast track to the 21st century and cross the border into Africa and readup about modern rulers and how they treat there subjects. As for your curse on me...the proverbs says: do unto others what you want done to yourself. By the why, who taught the black man so that he could invent the internet. Gid bless
All I can say is you know you're bat shit crazy when even Julius Malema kicks you out of his party.
Michael was
Productivity and racism are the same words to the interviewer.
Productivity always WINS. Unfortunately, it needs plans and execution.
I wish the lady would stop interrupting him 😈
She picked her side before this interview started lol
They keep repeating the word `racism` as if its a magic wand to get something free. Ernst is brilliant at handling the hostile Andile & a biased presenter.
Andrew Novis you should go back where you come from, you caucasian white folks dont belong to afrika when u understand ?? And this isnt racist, its a fact !!!!! Greets from switzerland you stupid asshole
You are the only people who want something free when u arived in africa not the africans!!!!!!!
@@hmos9145 are you another Low IQ Buffoon? did you runaway to the white mans country for a better standard of living? do you think all the black people in Europe & America should go back to Africa? have you seen how the useless & racist ANC have destroyed South Africa in a mere 25 years? are you jealous of the white mans successes? do you miss living in a mud hut? Zimbabwe kicked out the white farmers, then they realised that they were incapable of farming & then begged for whitey to return. South Africa is on the same path as Zimbabwe, only a stupid asshole wouldn`t know that.
@@hmos9145 You couldn`t even invent the wheel, or a 2 -storey house. Whitey built S.Africa with his superior work ethic, intelligence, innovation. Today 8% of population is paying 90% of the taxes, you will starve without the white man. You are always over represented in welfare/crime yet still you complain & want more free stuff. Why are you in Switzerland? is it because you agree that whitey builds better societies?
@@andjuju6476 you're triggered & resorting to spewing nauseating racist hogwash
Where are you
Dont argue with a fool. A fool thinks he is wise in his foolishness
education and training seeking specific knowledge that can balance and bring harmony in economic transformation in our country and government must initiate this task and apply it for building better lives and strengthen economy.
Dankie Vir wat jy doen Ernst Roets.
What's so funny is that Ernest said the blf was going to deny that education is the solution to unemployment and when he was asked he actually didn't deny it I thought that was so funny
Ernst Roets hits the stats research on the head I believe as I can relate them to my own experience. I'm white, have about 50 times more black friends and colleagues than white ones, lived for most of my life in Zululand and Pietermaritzburg, and they are the least bit concerned about being racially discriminated and land expropriation. in fact EVERY Zulu friend of mine has ancestral land that he or she can call home. Not one of them hasn't such a place.
Reality is real, and to deny it is ignorant, shallow and sad...
The moderator espouses the same ridiculous beliefs that she is supposed to be arbitrating between the two debaters!
absolutely everything that is wrong with SA... blame and take......bye bye South Africa
Andile✊🏾
Humansim is what prevail's in the world and we will continue into oblivious with this doctrine - let it be done. We are our own destroyers.
we have not stole your land you entitled to buy land go to the bank and apply. stop always accusing people for stealing land if this was the case we would be locked up
Cam muller stop being such a victim and get your facts straight.
First off, the Dutch escaping the Roman Catholic persecution in Europe were the first to arrive in the Western Cape which was populated by the bushmen tribes - the SAN and the Koi who were the original people of Southern Africa.
Secondly, African tribes frequently waged war against each other and made alliances for survival. The succession of african immigrants from Central Africa during the time of the Bantu expansion initially led to the formation of merged tribes such as the Masarwa. After some time african immigrants of greater strength invaded much of the traditional San territories. Archeological research suggests that each african tribe succession had better weapons than their predecessors enabling them to dominate the eastern parts of South Africa thereby forcing the Khoisan into less desirable parts of the country. Your ancestors were the ones killing the Khoisan people left and right and stealing their land.
Don't be a hypocrite. If Whites need to leave, then so do the Bantu people aswell.
@@ntsakomarete3437 Respect to you brother ,it's people like you who shows that there is hope within our country .May God bless you 🙏
Well done Ernst,Good facts this other guy cant face the truth.They want you to fail but yet again you are the victor in this debate.
am a black person...but here i see two against one
I have hardly see or hear a white or even coloured interviewer defend the nubian people
Its because they are payed by the other sides TO PRETEND THAT EVERY THING IN GOING SMOOTH IN SOUTH AFRICA .. 💷💶💵💴 they are just agents 🤔🤔🤔
Im just saying 🚴♀️
Im just saying 🚴♀️
The journalist is asking based on facts and Afriforum is lying
Ernst brings facts and figures and Andile is bringing dogmatism
Franca Francesco Petrarch go back to your shithole countries
Red pill Africa Red pill Africa go back to central africa where your ancestors came from
The government of the ANC should have transformed this country. How can black children live in tin houses..so many years after apartheid had been abolished.. it doesn't make sense.. where is the money for the jobs that were supposed to be created? Where's the the money for houses that were supposed to be built that weren't? When the government deserts its own people..volatility between the different races groups grows! And the government has no problem with this..because it takes the spotlight off their hands in the cookie jar..
The Native Americans say the same thing about their land that was stolen taken from them! By Europeans
u can even sense an element of racism by the comments below..how appaling
"Racism" word came from white people who want to use black penis. That's why the term and idea came about
TOZ LUMUMBA i am black. I cant be racist!
Stand together it is scaring
I honestly thought this was going to be a debate on Black mal treating whites now racism ... so they are still on that little trip -_- ffs. its 2018 they need to revive that 80s song what have you done for me lately. you've had more than 20 years to not fuck it up and ppl are asking the ANC for the report card and all they can do is this same old excuse we fail becuase racism -_-
she interrupts Ernst every 5 minutes with a pointless point, but never interrupts Andile.
Well the media is predominantly a leftist propaganda machine and not news at all.
The interviewer is so biased its ridiculous.
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself.
or.........do answer a fool according to his folly, lest he become wise in his own eyes!
"We're coming for your land, don't worry."
It's sad how collectivist black people tend to be. It feels as if there's no solution. People who share Andile's views are beyond reason.
Andile the Court Jester!👺
you get good bad in every race
Give them the sliver spoon don’t have to work for it
Let all stop this shit.viva mandella
I am qualified with a degree, with 15+ years of experience and now cannot secure a job for the last 3.5 years after taking my previous company from Stellenbosch to the ccma for unfair and discriminatory (racial) actions toward me. My white boss threatened me at the ccma meeting by indicating that "they" will get me for this (I won by virtue of them having to give me a payout). So far I have made job application after job application , written test after test getting 100% in many and still cannot secure a position - the feedback I get is nothing that makes sense to me as well - things like I'm not the right fit - I can understand what this means when talking about a condom but not in the context of me securing the job - so how would you explain my case - I am qualified and with my further experience and skills can assert that I can trash virtually most others in my field - SO it has NOTHING to do with lack of education and experience!!!
According to Andile it is racist to work hard and earn a lot.
No it's racist for white people to still own majority of the land and shortchange the blacks
Nomathemba Cele what do you want to do to the land ?
Two sectarian leaders. I'd rather support Andile because he is not corporate funded, even though he is as much of a zealous rifle target as Andile
Does BLF have a silent F in its acronym?
The blf guy is lying, blatantly. And how can you put an organization like afriforum in the same category as AWB. One is mega racist the other one isn't
This journalist herself too she is racist because she is just putting Ernst in the corner.
She probably also have a low IQ
Did I hear correctly. A genocide? What are you smoking Andile. He doesn’t seem to be aware that apartheid ended decades ago. Perhaps he needs to look at the ANC.
1 persent world come for my land
slaughtering sheep on Clifton beach is a problem and aggravate racism. i am sure it would have been well supported by all races if we could all have got together and prayed on the beach,
Sacrificing is not aggressive racism it’s more like prayer but in the African sense.The Bible had sacrificing as well.
Bell Pottinger.
I don't agree with Mr Roets, i applaud Afriforum for the work that they are doing but the image i have of them is that they represent and protect the Afrikaner white population. I agree what farmers are protesting and fighting for but we have to understand, crime affects more people from poor communities, crime does not only affect the white farmers, we, as a country are faced with this violence on a daily basis
well nothing is stopping you from starting your own civil rights movement , why should my membership fees fight for your rights ? FU
The problem in the country is the result of the due to the lack of understanding/commonsense/basic common sense including basic education that although unprotected sex will eventually result in the conception and birth of a child which will need to be cared for i.e bathed, fed, clothed and adequately educated in order to contribute to their future and the future and the country's prosperity in future years, Folks yes work hard to earn money enjoy in order to enjoy life according to what you are able to afford and of course includes healthy stimulating sex, but remember to take caution or if otherwise y the necessary alternative contraceptives in order to avoid having children until you are able to support and provide them with the BEST education you can afford. After all your children are YOUR (not someone else's) responsibility in order to ensure their eventual success in this life.
Im 8 minutes in and I couldn't finish this video. This lady has just proved to everyone watching that the education system is a big problem in this country. If I was her boss, I would have given her a written warning.
her boss is supposed to give her finale warning as she is bias, not her job description...oh well this is S,A he probably like it also😩
Ramaphosa sure has a lot of wealth and his relative patrice motsephe. How about apprioriating some of that wealth? Mostly gained by socialist redistribution.
Ha,ha Black genocide Really? Does this black knows what genocide means? I mean it does not look like that their race have undergone a genocide, it is actually the opposite if one visit any town in South Africa.
Talk is cheap, the time of discussing is over we as the EFF have a clear mandate and solutions for this conjecture. Our approach is with conception of our society not just explaining problems in isolation instance rather by inspecting its complex whole to come to the conclusive solutions that shall bring closure to the current historical condition. SA is a colonial social setting constructed by the white colonial settlers who systematically and violently installed their white supremacy over black objects norm that determines our colonial and apartheid social relations through a racial relations code. EFF has the answer and solutions for that, we shall decipher that code once and for all without fear or favor.
hahahaha you are funny
Let's not focus to much time on a topic that never existed until whites showed up? White people's history in all areas, speaks louder than words.
Its not about rational argument, its about black socialist ethno-state whatever it costs. And global banks will bank roll this, because after the eventual bankruptcy of the nation, all natural SA's resources will confiscated by the ones who borrowed money.
The bankrupt and stooge of the guptas... where is he today
Go to jail no pass
😊"We are coming for the land don't worry" ~Andile... I've loved every second of that interview
😂
He has a problem with being truthful and logical! Poor boy! He needs help and so does Malema who should be ashamed of living like a White man - a RICH White man - while his followers whom he is manipulating into a frenzy of hatred for White people, live in extreme poverty. Malema drives back to his mansion in Sandton after an hour or so of yelling a crown of Blacks to cause them even more misery. Horrible person.
Andile . can you please give a definition of racism. just to be clear from your platform. mike
I'm moving on to flat earth videos. Much less fantasy....
I am a victim of black monopoly capital
Andile doesn't know SA's history at all!
This cannot be the most intelligent spokesperson BLF could find.
Andile just wanted fame.
Potsiso Mocheke he sure got it! In a negative way, the law does not protect white people, hahaha. This guy is stupid
He is not stupid you are for not seeing the bigger picture where the white still have control the economy which is important in having power
@@nomathembacele5365 yes because the whites have an IQ greater the 70 such as yourself by the looks of your name
Enrst is a phenotype of racism.
It's quite unreasonable to reason with racists land thieves.
Ssshhhh.... Thula.
Asshole
Racism is a power connection to the means of production and distribution in a society. Therefore, Andile is correct: Black people cannot be racist.
That’s convenient. It allows black people to not take any accountability for wrong doing
You are completely ignoring the individual.........you keep bringing up "black" or "white" as if everyone in those groups is equal as far as intelligence, effort, moral outlook, desire for peaceful cooperation.......consider the individual.......people are responsible for their own success or failure in a democracy.........SA is not a democracy......it is a racial totalitarian state.............
2 against 1
damn...why did whites vote to stop apartheid in 91? and actually 70% said stop apartheid.
Yes, they sold us out
Its not them.
@@williamzar5021They would have been slaughtered.
Yes brother, never stop saying, "...they came and stole our land..." I am with you 100%.
Monarchial Entertainment, Barbados the only thing stolen by the looks of it is your IQ
Afriforum is not racist
Andile you home land is Ghana don't you think you should go back home and spread your propaganda there. We dont need racists here. Black people can't be racists!
"must be burned!" typical 😕
What a terrible interviewer. She is so blatantly impartial. Its hilarious 😂😂😂😂
Racism my ass! what about the Berlin Conference nobody made a big deal about that!
Troy C berlin conference was 150 years ago. Still want to blame the mongols for gengiz khan too?
That Black guy want to turn SA into Zimbabwe
This whole debate is absolutely infuriating and a insult to a intelligent person, I feel sorry for poor Ernst to have to listen to this verbal avalanche of stupid reasoning out of all contacts...
Racism STILL continues in the private sector especially. That is why those who defend racism will suffer slowly with every passing election because the black people will vote for those who have their interests at heart. Some people do not know the meaning of selfishness.
Please 2019 we can't wait anymore viva EFF viva
1:54 Classic burn!
That's right Andile, i just spoke about definitions. We have to define our burdens for ourselves, period. With you 100% Andile. Peter Boateng who is on this chat, started out wrong, by going against Andeli in public. So i will call him out Peter Boateng.
The journalist is baise
Andile - every word from his mouth belied by his very T-shirt and he does not even realise it hahahaha -
Black people cannot be racist??? ROFL!!!!!!! Liegbek! Ek is so siek en sat van die twak!