I love my ESEE Junglas, it's definitely the Better Knife,... but the RTAK II fits my hand perfectly. I really like the RTAK II, its a good knife for the money.
God stuff .I'm hoping you'll review the Esee CM6 as it keeps calling to me .I prefer the look of it to the Esee 6 but there's not a whole lot of comparison videos from people I trust .
Great job! Rtak 2 was my go to large knife a few years ago. It was right on the cusp of Ontario’s transition from 5160 to 1075 on many models. I never had one chip, even though I DID have an Ontario kukri in 5160 chip pretty bad. The rtak 2, however, caused me a different problem. After chopping repeatedly through a tough tree, I had the primary grind wobble on me on 2 separate rtak’s. My theory is that the lower 53-55 Rockwell coupled with the thinner edge geometry coupled with the friction and heat generated from chopping deep, over and over , and removing the “stuck” blade from the tree caused the lower rockwelled, thin edge to heat up to the point of becoming malleable and thus taking a wobble in the primary grind. I think the reason that condor doesn’t have this problem is the thicker edge geometry on their similarly hardened blades(53-55). I would love to see a video of hard use on this knife to see what your experience is. Keep up the good work. 👍
Nice yeah agreed Ontario is a less refined product and crap QC! I lost 2 handle screws on my big bushcrafter the first time and rat 7 was loose out the box but they're serious for under $100 thanks for the vids
Back in the day, dummy me went with the Ontario “Bushcraft” Woodsman in 5160, because it was the only one I could find that came naked, and it gave me Wood...handles. lol
I got one two years ago. Was pretty decent but I broke it battoning some tough firewood. Wish it lasted longer. Are they still making these? I thought Ontario went down last summer.
Your description of what happened with Ontario and Esee is silly. I have never had an issue with my RTAK-II, had it for 12 years. Put TKC scales on it, stripped, and put a patina on the blade. I have seen the chunks missing from blades online. Ontario as seemed like their knives were made extremely cheaply when compared to Esee, and that reflected in the price. The coatings on the Esee knives is primo compared to Ontario, as well as fit and finish. Not surprised that Ontario went under; still sad to see, they are iconic. They could have improved their knives, but it seemed like they were trying to make it appear as if they had improved, but really were just going cheap and Chiese made. I hope whomever ends up with the name can restart the company and be competitive. We are in an unprecedented time with all the good, cheap knives now available, and all the insane super steel knives with insane fit and finish are available for the price... and the internet keeps hyping it up...
I used to have the RTAK2. I got it after extensive research (aka youtube) on nutnfancy videos and he liked the 5160. And the price difference between it and ESEE was double (RTAK2 was like 85 bucks? And Junglas was 180)... gave it to my dad for his portaging trip. I'm sad to see that Junglas is now like $400
I have seen that company selling it for 399. If you look at every thing that company is selling, it's all double price. Been a while since I scrolled down far enough to find it
Yea man I’m liking that. OKC has more knives than I thought. Good stuff. 👊👌🇺🇸
Oh yea
Thanks for this introduction to the RTAKII and comparing it to the Junglas, well done! 👍Take care and Cheers!
Thank you
I love my ESEE Junglas, it's definitely the Better Knife,... but the RTAK II fits my hand perfectly. I really like the RTAK II, its a good knife for the money.
They really are great knives
Awesome video my friend keep it up
Thanks Tristan
@@peterbiltknifeguy 👍👍
God stuff .I'm hoping you'll review the Esee CM6 as it keeps calling to me .I prefer the look of it to the Esee 6 but there's not a whole lot of comparison videos from people I trust .
I have looked into it. Looks like a nice blade. I honestly would trust anything esee on everything
Great job! Rtak 2 was my go to large knife a few years ago. It was right on the cusp of Ontario’s transition from 5160 to 1075 on many models. I never had one chip, even though I DID have an Ontario kukri in 5160 chip pretty bad. The rtak 2, however, caused me a different problem. After chopping repeatedly through a tough tree, I had the primary grind wobble on me on 2 separate rtak’s. My theory is that the lower 53-55 Rockwell coupled with the thinner edge geometry coupled with the friction and heat generated from chopping deep, over and over , and removing the “stuck” blade from the tree caused the lower rockwelled, thin edge to heat up to the point of becoming malleable and thus taking a wobble in the primary grind. I think the reason that condor doesn’t have this problem is the thicker edge geometry on their similarly hardened blades(53-55). I would love to see a video of hard use on this knife to see what your experience is. Keep up the good work. 👍
I definitely agree. I can’t wait to hard use it
Nice yeah agreed Ontario is a less refined product and crap QC! I lost 2 handle screws on my big bushcrafter the first time and rat 7 was loose out the box but they're serious for under $100 thanks for the vids
I love both of these greatly but my OKC RTAK II has a horrible tendency to warp under hard use, The Esee J is far superior imo.
I thought okc is out of business...
Its the 1075 that chipped. Not the 5160 is what i heard
Back in the day, dummy me went with the Ontario “Bushcraft” Woodsman in 5160, because it was the only one I could find that came naked, and it gave me Wood...handles. lol
My other head was doing the think’n that day...
😂
@@dlrmon1 mine is always doing the thinking lol
I have an okc ranger RD6 that is a beast but the edge has chipped out on me with medium use
Do you know at what point the steel was changed?
I think it was a few years ago
I got one two years ago. Was pretty decent but I broke it battoning some tough firewood. Wish it lasted longer. Are they still making these? I thought Ontario went down last summer.
They are still available. I’m not sure about new production. This particular one was made in may of 23
This will be very interesting showdown as maybe sand down that blocky handle of the Rtak 2 to give it a chance....LOL....Good stuff....
Oh it has a chance lol. Thankfully I have large hands 😂
@@peterbiltknifeguyprobably fits good in BIG hands. I feel like I'm holding a 2x4 with mine
Your description of what happened with Ontario and Esee is silly. I have never had an issue with my RTAK-II, had it for 12 years. Put TKC scales on it, stripped, and put a patina on the blade. I have seen the chunks missing from blades online. Ontario as seemed like their knives were made extremely cheaply when compared to Esee, and that reflected in the price. The coatings on the Esee knives is primo compared to Ontario, as well as fit and finish. Not surprised that Ontario went under; still sad to see, they are iconic. They could have improved their knives, but it seemed like they were trying to make it appear as if they had improved, but really were just going cheap and Chiese made. I hope whomever ends up with the name can restart the company and be competitive. We are in an unprecedented time with all the good, cheap knives now available, and all the insane super steel knives with insane fit and finish are available for the price... and the internet keeps hyping it up...
I think everyone was surprised to see the Olean factory close
You should do a little research on Newt Livesay and his LAK-5 that became the RTAK
I used to have the RTAK2. I got it after extensive research (aka youtube) on nutnfancy videos and he liked the 5160. And the price difference between it and ESEE was double (RTAK2 was like 85 bucks? And Junglas was 180)... gave it to my dad for his portaging trip. I'm sad to see that Junglas is now like $400
It’s 175 on the knife connection. Where is it 400? Amazon has it for 188
I have seen that company selling it for 399. If you look at every thing that company is selling, it's all double price. Been a while since I scrolled down far enough to find it
Still no Prather vid :(
In due time lol.
@@peterbiltknifeguy pls:/
What would you like to see in the video
@@peterbiltknifeguy overview and your opinion. :)