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Hela has always been one of the biggest examples of wasted potential in the MCU for me, so this episode was exactly what I wanted. The ways it elaborated on her past and Odin’s abuses, as well as using the people of Earth’s spirituality and wisdom to help her character grow worked so incredibly well for me. What If is quickly becoming one of my favorite MCU properties.
I think what I enjoy most is that it's Marvel comic stories without the hyper Marvel fandom. Can't predict any of this stuff, nor overanalyse Mephisto in every frame.
Agreed this is far better than season 1. The episodes feel more creative and the heroes and villains actually act like themselves. Plus it gives focus to characters that didn’t get a lot of screen time in the MCU. Nebula, Happy, Hammer, Hela so far it’s great, only wish we had more episodes left instead of just 2
Easily the best episode of the season. And it's not even close. Hela, for me, has always been one of the best villains in all of the MCU. They gave her one movie. A complete tragedy. Seeing her get the Loki arc at the end of this... I can't even! ❤❤❤❤❤ This episode is too good.
Hela talked mad smack in Ragnorak! One of the jokes was when the Asian warrior said "whoever you are..." after one of her monologues and she was like, "Did you not hear hear a word I said!?"
This journey Hela took wasn’t just a reflection of Thor’s, but in many ways also a reflection of Loki’s! Especially the Loki we see in the series. Hela coming fully into her power echoes Loki’s final realization even more than Thor in Ragnarok. I love it. A subtle way of showing that Thor and Loki and Hela were indeed family, maybe? I’d like to think so. All of them learning to overcome their hurt and trauma and hubris, all of them becoming something greater once they did. Beautiful symmetry!
This, episode 6 (Kahhori), and episode 1 (Nebula) are three of the best bits of the MCU. I think Kahhori's episode is still the better of those three, but the other two are a close neck-and-neck second.
@@StarkRG Especially since they've established her as a leader. I could see her being a big part in something like Secret Wars. For example, Kahhori and her people could be a fill in for the Thor Core if they do the Dr. Doom version
From all episodes so far I hope marvel makes a spinoff kahhori animated show before going live action and if shang-shi takes an eternity, I would love if maybe that kahhori show could connect to shang-shi as their realms are similar.
Can I also say that he is the worst father ever. Takes her puppy away and then gives her a crown and says be evil and then punishes her for that. No. bad dad
Ahhh!! "Even the darkest of hearts can know peace"!! This is how Thanos changed his mind in the first season and gave up the whole idea of snapping out half the universe! This is literally the third time I've seen this and just caught that!
I really like it but makes me wish they bring Hela back into the MCU main timeline. Very glad they flesh her character a bit more. So potential they could have explored with Hela rather than kill her off in Ragnarok
@@gerardlacroix6015that or this version comes in during secret wars, it could work considering this hela is a bit more like thors sister in the comics, she is still nothing like hela but eh.
This is a good What If episode simply because we are not going to get more Odin Hela and Wenwu stories in live-action, and this is a great way to visit these stories
This episode more than anything else, showed us that Odin is a villain. That's just facts. I love this episode SOOOOO much that I can't even stand it. ❤❤❤❤❤
It's ironic, i feel the biggest problem with some of these what if episodes is that they are only the length of an episode. Some of them i would love to see be extended by another 30 minutes.
While laid low on his knees, Hela took command over Gungnir, ripped the kingship straight from his hands - Odin, former king of Asgard can finally lay his weakened frail body to rest, as he always has been depicted as.
That was indeed hella badass (hehe). After this episode, Hela became my favorite What If character, and really, one of my favorite MCU characters in general. In my opinion, the humor was great, it showed that she was more than what Odin wanted, what other people expected of her. Just loved it.
This was a Fun Episode I Never Dreamed That there would be a Good Version of Hela Before, but the Whole Episode was Great, Watching Hela Become a Martial Arts Master Made me Happy.
This whole season is INCREDIBLE, man. Cate Blanchett is obviously an outstanding actor, but her performance in this ep was about as transcendent as a VA performance can be in ~26 minutes. I thought Bugs Bunny (can’t remember his name, Jeff Burgmann, was it? Bugs’ voice actor) did a great job as Odin, too. And Idris, of course. Love some Heimdall. Really top shelf entertainment this whole season, top to bottom.
This episode was real real good. I feel like Wenwu’s characterization is a bit off, but beyond that it did great work with an underutilized character and some great action.
True, but maybe this is a Wenwu who has only had the rings for (at most) a few years. And maybe at one point in his life he did try to use them for good early on, albeit through conquest, before settling on simply using the Ten Rings to carve out and rule over his shadow empire that we see in the main timeline.
tbh, not that much. He probably had the Ten Rings for a long while now seeing his large army + i think its a fortress he conquers at the beginning of Shang Chi and he already lives there? We saw he fought off all dangers with ease. When one woman appears and beats his ass, he is curious and falls for her, just like he fell for Shang Chi's mom, who also beat his ass... So I guess it turns him on xD Its very in character if anything
Great episode, I like this one a lot. But... You could have 100 rings and Wenwu/Mandarin, Hela, whoever... They are still getting snuffed out by the All-Father, Odin Borson.
This episode of what if confirmed yet again that Odin was a terrible father that made literally all the wrong choices,except with maybe Thor and even those choices were questionable
Well season 2 at least, wasn’t a big fan of season 1. And to answer your question I think their just actually putting in effort in making good stories unlike the rest of the MCU
@@rygornspectre7142 I'd genuinely recommend giving Moon Knight a shot, SPOILERS it's a good story on its own, although it barely connects with the rest of the MCU in any way.
How I feel about this episode is the same as how I feel about the ones with Kohhari and Nebula because they're female leads who don't have love stories; which is even better because it's at a point where a damn love story is forced into a female-lead adventure/action tale
@@appo9357 that's not really the story they wanted to tell as she would just take over earth. Plus I don't think they want to show the origin of the rings here as that is a mystery at the moment
@@lightdarksoul2097 it didn’t have to be the actual origin of the rings. She could’ve just found them before Wenwu. This was an alternate timeline after all. Even titling it “Hela joins the Ten Rings” would’ve been slightly more accurate.
Slightly I suppose. This episode was a big mix of plenty of stuff. I do like the title What if Hela found the Light but that could be a spoiler @@appo9357
This is again Disneys woke agenda and its downfall ! We all know Odin is super powerfull in comics and here he first won Hela then at the end lost easily 😅
“Woke agenda” when it was literally about a man and woman working together to fight for peace across the universe Please come back when you know what the word woke means
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Hela as a mix of Loki and Thor.... Didn't know i needed that in my life.
Makes me wish that Thor Ragnorok was a 2 parter.
Hela has always been one of the biggest examples of wasted potential in the MCU for me, so this episode was exactly what I wanted. The ways it elaborated on her past and Odin’s abuses, as well as using the people of Earth’s spirituality and wisdom to help her character grow worked so incredibly well for me. What If is quickly becoming one of my favorite MCU properties.
and she's so DEVILISHLY sassy.
I do wonder how powerful Shang Chi will be in that universe when he’s born to mother Hela and immortal Wenwu
😮😮😮 @@deathking1019
@@alexanderthealright I love me a sassy woman
@deathking1019
Realistically, biological?
Shang chi should have step siblings instead of being born half Asgardian/mix.
No matter which universe, Odin is still bad at parenting 😂
And still a hypocrite
Haven’t seen Odin get a beatdown like that since God of War: Ragnarok!
And they acknowledged Gungnir by name!
Just need now chinese gods easter eggs in the new god of war.
I didn't care for the first season, but this season has had some of my favorite MCU stuff so far. The Nebula, Hela and Kahhori eps have been amazing.
I think what I enjoy most is that it's Marvel comic stories without the hyper Marvel fandom.
Can't predict any of this stuff, nor overanalyse Mephisto in every frame.
Agreed this is far better than season 1. The episodes feel more creative and the heroes and villains actually act like themselves. Plus it gives focus to characters that didn’t get a lot of screen time in the MCU. Nebula, Happy, Hammer, Hela so far it’s great, only wish we had more episodes left instead of just 2
Easily the best episode of the season. And it's not even close.
Hela, for me, has always been one of the best villains in all of the MCU. They gave her one movie. A complete tragedy. Seeing her get the Loki arc at the end of this... I can't even! ❤❤❤❤❤
This episode is too good.
Hela talked mad smack in Ragnorak!
One of the jokes was when the Asian warrior said "whoever you are..." after one of her monologues and she was like, "Did you not hear hear a word I said!?"
Yeah she talked non stop. Surprised mr Omni doesn't remember that.
Yeah...she actually also had very good sense of humour.
I do hope that we´ll get this version of Hela in liva-action in the MCU in the future
In secret war maybe 🤔
Hear me out……. Team up with Thor & Loki for the sibling dynamic would get people out of their seats
@@gualacheesesteakYESSS. OMG I didn’t think about that but i love it so much
@@gualacheesesteakthat would make sense because thor and Loki's sister is actually a lot like this version of hela......hmmmmmmm
It's like Hela became Galadriel in this episode. Love it
I agree dude, I liked Shang-Chi a lot. Might be the best origin story MCU film next to Iron Man 1.
This journey Hela took wasn’t just a reflection of Thor’s, but in many ways also a reflection of Loki’s! Especially the Loki we see in the series. Hela coming fully into her power echoes Loki’s final realization even more than Thor in Ragnarok. I love it. A subtle way of showing that Thor and Loki and Hela were indeed family, maybe? I’d like to think so. All of them learning to overcome their hurt and trauma and hubris, all of them becoming something greater once they did. Beautiful symmetry!
Whatever happens, we get more Cate Blanchett in campy, snarky evil mode. Worth it.
This, episode 6 (Kahhori), and episode 1 (Nebula) are three of the best bits of the MCU. I think Kahhori's episode is still the better of those three, but the other two are a close neck-and-neck second.
I know they couldn't but I do wish they gave Kahhori an hour special episode since she was fully original but I quite liked it
@@lightdarksoul2097 She'll be back for the finale, at least. I could see giving her a movie or, at the very least, a large part of an ensemble movie.
True no doubt we'll see her more in what if seasons. I wouldn't mind a live action appearance though in one of the multiverse films. @@StarkRG
@@StarkRG Especially since they've established her as a leader. I could see her being a big part in something like Secret Wars. For example, Kahhori and her people could be a fill in for the Thor Core if they do the Dr. Doom version
From all episodes so far I hope marvel makes a spinoff kahhori animated show before going live action and if shang-shi takes an eternity, I would love if maybe that kahhori show could connect to shang-shi as their realms are similar.
Can I also say that he is the worst father ever. Takes her puppy away and then gives her a crown and says be evil and then punishes her for that. No. bad dad
Yup. Not to mention keeping Loki in the dark about his origin.
Just like hela says in the episode, he cast away his sword forgetting it was his daughter
the chemistry Hela and Wen was surprisingly strong.
Ahhh!! "Even the darkest of hearts can know peace"!! This is how Thanos changed his mind in the first season and gave up the whole idea of snapping out half the universe! This is literally the third time I've seen this and just caught that!
I love that we get a final fight where the movie villains are the heroes and the movie hero is the villain.
I really enjoyed this episode, especially the interactions between Hela and Xu Wenwu.
I really like it but makes me wish they bring Hela back into the MCU main timeline. Very glad they flesh her character a bit more. So potential they could have explored with Hela rather than kill her off in Ragnarok
They technically could, she is technically never confirmed dead... Loki came back "from the dead" 3 times... Honestly, it wouldn't be far fetched.
@@gerardlacroix6015that or this version comes in during secret wars, it could work considering this hela is a bit more like thors sister in the comics, she is still nothing like hela but eh.
This is a good What If episode simply because we are not going to get more Odin Hela and Wenwu stories in live-action, and this is a great way to visit these stories
Let's all agree that Odin's parenting style needs work, it backfires on him every time
Hela being chatty can also be the fact she is mortal now. As such she need her gile more than ever.
This episode more than anything else, showed us that Odin is a villain. That's just facts. I love this episode SOOOOO much that I can't even stand it. ❤❤❤❤❤
Hela, Goddess of Life
It's ironic, i feel the biggest problem with some of these what if episodes is that they are only the length of an episode. Some of them i would love to see be extended by another 30 minutes.
While laid low on his knees, Hela took command over Gungnir, ripped the kingship straight from his hands - Odin, former king of Asgard can finally lay his weakened frail body to rest, as he always has been depicted as.
Hela AND Shang Tsu- err..? Xu Wen Wu..! Make for One HEL-UVA!! paring! This has got to be one, if not THE best of the What If episodes this season!
this ep was soooo good! Damn them with teasing us with Wenwu and Hela vs Thanos fight xD
The director of chang Chi quit Kang Dinasty to focus on Chang chi 2
Another great episode, loving Hela the white hope to see more of her she’s a badass ❤
That was indeed hella badass (hehe). After this episode, Hela became my favorite What If character, and really, one of my favorite MCU characters in general. In my opinion, the humor was great, it showed that she was more than what Odin wanted, what other people expected of her. Just loved it.
Literally everyone in the MCU has Stark's humor, everyone's a snarky quip machine.
Beat episode so far , Helas white suite is so beautiful
Hela talked mad shit in Ragnarock. Plus she’s basically doing a Loki impression.
This reminds me of an episode couple of episodes of Xena Warrior Princess. So I’m a big fan of this episode.
The idea that shang chi could defeat thor is crazy omg
Exactly ☝️😲
Well it depends he would have the means to beat him but Shang Chi is still not nearly to his father's level of skill with the rings
Director of the movie said Shang chi was Thor and Hulk level.
And the producer confirmed it could go either way in a fight against Thor.
loved it, though the one yesterday remains my favorite. I could easierly see fanfictions written on it than the one with Kahhori.
This was a Fun Episode I Never Dreamed That there would be a Good Version of Hela Before, but the Whole Episode was Great, Watching Hela Become a Martial Arts Master Made me Happy.
That one choked me up. At first, I wasn’t going to give it a chance. I’m glad I did.
This whole season is INCREDIBLE, man. Cate Blanchett is obviously an outstanding actor, but her performance in this ep was about as transcendent as a VA performance can be in ~26 minutes. I thought Bugs Bunny (can’t remember his name, Jeff Burgmann, was it? Bugs’ voice actor) did a great job as Odin, too. And Idris, of course. Love some Heimdall. Really top shelf entertainment this whole season, top to bottom.
Hella was chatty and sassy in Ragnarok, too.
Odin does not deserve any of his kids.
He only just started seeing Frigga by this point apparently. she must have really mellowed him out!
Actually, you're right. In Norse mythology, it's Fenrir, or the Fenris-wolf.
my fave ep so far.
Your hair looks good man! Love your vids.
The way all episodes are building it man !! 🤍
Dude hela is so cool in what if 😮
“Epic as Hel-A” I see what you did there lol
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I really enjoyed this episode I hope we see this Hela appears in secret wars and interact with our Thor and Loki.
This episode was real real good. I feel like Wenwu’s characterization is a bit off, but beyond that it did great work with an underutilized character and some great action.
True, but maybe this is a Wenwu who has only had the rings for (at most) a few years. And maybe at one point in his life he did try to use them for good early on, albeit through conquest, before settling on simply using the Ten Rings to carve out and rule over his shadow empire that we see in the main timeline.
@@bryannkam Also, at this point, he hadn't yet been heartbroken.
tbh, not that much. He probably had the Ten Rings for a long while now seeing his large army + i think its a fortress he conquers at the beginning of Shang Chi and he already lives there? We saw he fought off all dangers with ease. When one woman appears and beats his ass, he is curious and falls for her, just like he fell for Shang Chi's mom, who also beat his ass... So I guess it turns him on xD Its very in character if anything
Great episode, I like this one a lot. But... You could have 100 rings and Wenwu/Mandarin, Hela, whoever... They are still getting snuffed out by the All-Father, Odin Borson.
Hot damn, this episode was PHENOMENAL.
Heava the Goddess of Life.
This was a cool episode. I really want to see Odin going up against Zeus though.
This episode of what if confirmed yet again that Odin was a terrible father that made literally all the wrong choices,except with maybe Thor and even those choices were questionable
I’m pretty sure that I heard a voice calling for Hela in Ta Lo I wonder if that was The Dweller in Darkness.
great catch. 🤩
It was, I thought they were gonna touch on that
Same ❤
Nice easter eggs.
best episode so far
What if Hulk really turned into raging Hulk and kicked Thanos ass from the get go ?
I gotta say they make one Hela couple together. 😏
Now we just have to wait for the morons crying about how this is "woke".... 🙄
But - To end on a happier note; this episode was awesome. 😁
Season 3: What If Captain America Is Worthy of the Power of Hela?
Really good analogy between the Odin-Hela dynamic and the Sylvie-TVA dynamic… and yes I find the forced comedy in the MCU annoying too.
How is it the 'What If?' series is the best Marvel we've had since the Infinity War movies?
Well season 2 at least, wasn’t a big fan of season 1. And to answer your question I think their just actually putting in effort in making good stories unlike the rest of the MCU
What if ... Marvel didn't suck and was actually amazing?
We get this fucking masterpiece!
And yet I bet you watch everything they put out
@@gualacheesesteak Believe it or not, I don't.
I haven't seen Quantumania, Moon Knight, nor the Marvels etc.
@@rygornspectre7142 riiigghhtt
@@rygornspectre7142 I'd genuinely recommend giving Moon Knight a shot,
SPOILERS
it's a good story on its own, although it barely connects with the rest of the MCU in any way.
S2 of What If is definitely much better than the 1st.
2:57 - The Collector in Season 1 perhaps ?
I'm surprised that they showed someone (Hela) bleed. This series is not known for anything that looks bloody
wen wu became savage when his wife died
Amazing episode.
How I feel about this episode is the same as how I feel about the ones with Kohhari and Nebula because they're female leads who don't have love stories; which is even better because it's at a point where a damn love story is forced into a female-lead adventure/action tale
This is my fave ep.
Team Hela 💯
Welp. This did Captain Marvel's arc better than the Captain Marvel movie.
I want them to change Thor from the main movie universe to this Hela.
Puppy Fenris ;w;
So Thor & Hela have different mothers
this episode was hela good
I guess the Odin Force is weak in that universe
Maybe because he's near on his Odin sleep and the Odin force inside him is on its absolute lowest.
Uhm this is Hela full power and Wenwu with the 10 rings...
Also, Hela got a power up from Ta Lo...
@@Phizzo4real Sure, maybe, if we are specifically just referring to the MCU which I wasn't.
@@doriejames7650 Yeah, that's a good probable explanation.
no Odin let her win
Hi
More one piece please
Anyone else find the title misleading?
Yeah I thought that too but not sure what else it could be. Maybe what if Hela was cast to earth? But then it sounds too much like Thor
@@lightdarksoul2097 it could be that she actually found the rings.
@@appo9357 that's not really the story they wanted to tell as she would just take over earth. Plus I don't think they want to show the origin of the rings here as that is a mystery at the moment
@@lightdarksoul2097 it didn’t have to be the actual origin of the rings. She could’ve just found them before Wenwu. This was an alternate timeline after all. Even titling it “Hela joins the Ten Rings” would’ve been slightly more accurate.
Slightly I suppose. This episode was a big mix of plenty of stuff. I do like the title What if Hela found the Light but that could be a spoiler @@appo9357
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This is again Disneys woke agenda and its downfall ! We all know Odin is super powerfull in comics and here he first won Hela then at the end lost easily 😅
*sigh* what agenda? There is no agenda.
Ah one of those types. Nice to know you're slinking about still alive and well
“Woke agenda” when it was literally about a man and woman working together to fight for peace across the universe
Please come back when you know what the word woke means
Please explain this so called agenda that you keep throwing around lmao!?.