The Mare's Leg
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- An overview of the Hollywood gun "The Mare's Leg" a modified Winchester Model 1892.
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Zombieland 2009
Once Upon a Time in the West 1968
Firefly 2002
Wanted Dead or Alive
Trackdown 1957
Sagecoach 1939
True Grit 1968
Terminator 2 1991
The Simpsons 1989
ZombieLand: Double Tap 2019
Archer 2009
Kindergarten Cop 1990
Army of Darkness 1992
The Rifleman 1958
The Adventures of Brisco Country Jr. 1993
The Quick and the Dead 1995
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Sorry gang. Repost due to Copyright gremlins. The good news is I was able to edit Ash from Army of Darkness into this version of the video.
I'll watch it again, darn the copyright gremlin
I forgive you my son.
Worth it
Ok good I thought I was going nuts
Bruh the gremlins
Glad to see nobody disagrees with treating Firefly as a western. There never really was any question about that.
I mean, Western is a genre rather than a setting. A fine definition, to be sure, but an important one.
Firefly is 100% western down to its "civil war" roots. Just, you know, western *in spaaaaaaace!*
It's a space western, so anyone who disagrees doesn't know Firefly.
I swear By my pretty floral I will end anyone that says otherwise.
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The second episode even has a very "western" bar fight in the beginning.
Straight up western.
The actual purpose of the large loop on some lever actions is to make operation of the weapon easier for shooters who are wearing gloves.
Yes that's true, but doing the loop swing to reload looks cool, but is better for Hollywood than real life, especially when you paid good money for a well built firearm and now you're abusing it. Sort of like when you flick your wrist with a revolver to swing the loaded cylinder back into place, looks cool but can damage the gun. Never thought trying to be cool and operating a firearm was a good mix.
@@wilycoyote9091 Watch "The Rifleman."
One major advantage the Mare's Leg as over a single action revolver is the ability to reload and top off the magazine as you fire.
with the old revolvers you had to stop and eject each spent casing one at a time, before reloading one at a time.
Not with the Smith & Wesson No.3 from 1870
@@TheAwast2 True.
Not necessarily, there were a few single actions that were quick to reload. The Schofield is the first to come to mind, but there was a few others. There was also modified confederate revolvers where you could replace the cylinder for quick reloads.
@@jcfra420 I guess what I should have said was a Loading gate Revolver.
I said single action in reference to the colt single action army.
@@johnpatterson8697 Well if I am honest, you were right. I am just splitting hairs because I am bored. These revolvers were by no means the general standard. Maybe the Schofield. But a lot people did not even like them, they preferred the Army colt.
I'm a collector & my son is a gunsmith. I'm guessing a town marshal with a Mare's Leg in the 1880's would attract a good deal of respect from hard cases & rowdies.
I heard McQueen talk about this weapon in a 1960s interview. He said he originally ordered a mare's leg (for himself) in 45-70, but it was "too much" when shooting REAL rounds. But, 45-70 rounds looked MUCH cooler!
My guess is he was referring to recoil/accuracy, especially when firing fast & 1 handed. The 45-70 would've been heavier to wear & use as well.
Wow who cares !
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Who asked for your input?
Thank you so much for manually creating subtitles I am heart of hearing and I really appreciate when people do that, it takes a lot of work and wont help much people but the people it does help will greatly appreciate it.
This is the mare's first lightning strike. Let's see how many more it does.
Johnny.... You give me the feeling like a friend is telling me this info. Thank you.
Thanks man that comment actually means a lot to me.
I caught all those clever editing tricks (can’t think of the right phrase) where you make a statement in voice over, then some one in the clip you used responds with a line like they are talking to you, or almost adding on or contributing to what you just said.
EXAMPLE
Johnny in voice over: “Interestingly the gun is chambered in 44-40 but for even more dramatic effect, as if the gun wasn’t dramatic enough, larger 45-70 rounds are worn on McQueen’s belt. “
Gloria Talbott (?) in WANTED Dead Or Alive: “Yes. I know. Thank you.”
I love shit like that.
Either you have an encyclopedic knowledge of film and TV shows (which is entirely possible), or you have the luckiest timing of anyone on the planet.
After watching things like this I often find myself thinking about one of the greatest and most important questions of our age.
Who is the coolest of ALL TIME between John Wayne and Steve McQueen?
I always come down on the side of Steve McQueen, because well…. just because.
I guess we can add Chuck Norris now to that question, now that he has passed, or not. Norris might be too tough for Death to hold on to him.
Well I'm glad you are picking up what I'm putting down my friend. Learning to edit has taken some time. I'd say I'm more in the Steve McQueen camp than John Wayne but they've both entertained me over the years.
Steve McQueen was the man, and love Mare's Legs.
As a big Steve McQueen fan, I was delighted to learn he was the first user of the Mare's Leg! Steve, in my opinion, was the best gun handler Hollywood ever produced. No only does he appear very competent and confident in the use of firearms, he also uses them as part of his character and not just a prop. In Hell is for Heroes (1962), McQueen used a fairly boring M3 Grease Gun. However, Steve used "jungle" style tapped magazines that matched his character's aggressive nature and Steve flips the M3's dust cover/safety up and down a few time for dramatic effect.
If you are looking for future content ideas, Johnny, a video on the best gun handling actors might be interesting!
However, he is also seen fanning the hammer of the mare's leg to fast fire in a number of scenes, not really possible with a lever action firearm. looks cool, just like the gun but no
I have one of these, made by Rossi. Mine is chambered in 45 Colt. It's a fun shooter.
About 15yrs ago my buddy had one. He warned me not to try that "spin cock". Of course that made me want to do it more. So I tried to do that once and only once...
I dislocated one finger and broke my middle finger. I'm not sure if he kept the video after he of course showed it to everyone in my unit.
So just because it has the larger cocker it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
That’s what I tell my wife.
I actually got to shoot a Mares leg in 22. once. It was a fun little gun to shoot but it felt awkward to handle at the beginning mostly because of the stock. I wouldn't recommend the whole one handed thing, not that you can't do it but unless what your shooting at is really close you probably wouldn't hit much. My recommendation if you want to get one is get a full stock that you can switch out with the small one when you want to do some longer range shooting.
don't wanna get caught with that full stock on it without a permit for it. kinda like changing the birdshead on a shockwave or tac 14, it's a REALLY easy felony to commit without even realizing.
@@shootmcrunfast The one I shot had some feed issues as well but not horribly. The 22. version is definetly more of a fun gun than for anything practical though.
@@stevenunyabidness Yeah, putting a stock on it is going to change it from pistol to SBR. You *can* do that in most places if you want to file the paperwork and pay the tax for it but you can't change it back.
In Canada a pistol is a restricted firearm and you can't travel with one. But a mare's leg is considered a rifle so you can...
@@alexsawa2956 put a full stock sbr it too with no bs in Canada. About the only gun law we got that's cooler than the US
these were super popular in canada for the longet time. 1 inch barrel no stock really, lots of fun but pretty useless overall.
Not useless at all if you know how to run it. But it is almost always looked at as a strict range toy which is sad
@@ccrkicksass00123 with a full sized stock it would make for a much better weapon. the mares leg in essence is a oversized pistol, not a short rifle. any gun is a good choice if you know how to run it. but 100hrs down pipe over a mares leg is not 100hrs down pipe of a full sized rifle. tbh with u man, even a bs cheap 12 gauge would absolutely blow away the mares leg in a fight. its not at all something I would count on. but like earp said, accuracy is final. and the target doesnt really care what system struck it. it rings all the same. peace.
@@sukhoiboy4140 a full stock absolutely would make for an easier shooting weapon, no arguments on that. But I've never had any issue shouldering the stock of the mare's leg, albeit in a more unusual way than a full length, but still with enough stability to very easily use it as if it were a rifle and make good shots 0-150yd with a red dot. Took no time at all to pick up and get good with, but I also have multiple lever guns so that could have something to do with it.
Also a cheap 12ga could win sure, all depends on who is better with their gun.
The Rifleman. Some good old-fashioned TV there. I remember watching that when I was in grade school. You will never see another production like that
I own the exact hat Woody Harrelson wears as Tallahassee in Zombieland.
Original upload gang.
Like or reply for your acknowledgment that you sew the original upload.
I watched it 16x during the editing process and nearly went mad so hopefully that counts.
I too watched this many times...
@@JohnnyJohnsonHistory 🤨😳 moment
Sometimes written as Mares' Laig. I had a toy Mare's Leg when I was a kid. I felt as if I was the coolest cowboy on the street.
I had one as a kid also, a cool looking toy!
@@if6was929 Yes it was.
I had one too as a kid. That style really made an impression. I just wonder if anybody in the west actually used a lever action in that configuration.
@garfieldsmith332 It's obvious, with 'toy firearm taste' like that, you definitely *were* the cool kid.
All I could manage was a chrome, plastic cap gun version of Jim West's pistol.
I was fast, though. The fastest kid in my bedroom 😏
@@jmmartin7766 Me mom took me to visit her aunt and uncle in NYC. That was my 'treat' for being so good for a week.
Had to look it up to confirm that was Robert Culp I saw in that Trackdown clip. Such a fantastic Columbo villain
wallace breen
I first remember Culp as the government agent in "The Greatest American Hero." He was cool even then
ah yes, just hearing name makes me remember the days when i used this with a 40x in bf4 and could of never gotten a kill outside of hardcore
Love using this as my sidearm of choice on BF4
love steves little pat on his friends pot belly
3:26 - of all of the spin- or flip-cockers, Ash most deserves a pass. He's only got one (real) hand.
Man, I loved it when Steve McQueen used it!
Never been a fan of the Mares Leg or spin cocking. Neither one are practical and actuallu present a hinderance in most situations. I have a number of lever guns, most of which are Winchester model '96s, for the reason that it is the earliest model that allows for the use of the larger cartrides. The ones I have are in .45/70, .45/90, .45 110, .50/100 &
50/120. I have a couple of '92s. One in .44mag and the other in .357mag that I got to go along with my Super Blackhawks in the same caliber. None of my rifles have a lever loop either, I have a .45/70 with an enlarged lever to be used with gloves but it's not a loop, per sè
I found the info I was looking for. I thought a mare’s leg was 44-40 magnum or whatever but those rounds in McQueen’s gunbelt looked like 45.70
Awww, Johnny, I'm sorry they're on you like a rash.
"Here we go 'round the mulberry bush" is ringing in my head.
Thanks for modifying and reposting for posterity. It does our future good.
Thanks brother. Sorry I always look for your comments. The upside is that the channels doing well lately, so I've gotten lost trying to keep up with the comment section.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Never feel compelled to respond to me, my friend. I'd rather you take care of yourself first, and keep on pumping out that sweet, sweet content second. I know you value your audience whether you say it in comments or not; no one does what you do for any other reason and a lot of us recognize that. 😁
Peace and health to you and yours!
Besides Johnny, I was the first to arrive...
...in this comment section.
Then May turned up and boy, were we in for a shock.
Hammond came in last in his typical moronic fashion.
Giganotosaurus is a terminal disease.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq "I'm sorry, your skeleton has a bad case of Giganotosaurus. It's terminal."
YDAW moment 🦖💀🦕
"I'll be Lufthansa: 'I'm sorry, ze gate is closed.'"
"Well could you just open it?"
"Nein."
"Aber ja natürlich Hans ist nass, er steht unter dem Wasserfall."
One advantage, You can get a bit more velocity out of your round with the longer barrel. More than a pistol, less than a carbine.
I think the main advantage in a longer barrel with black powder was a longer sight radius. Easier to get accurate shots.
i can see the practicality as sort of "submachine gun" of the wild west- faster than a revolver outside of fanning and definitely more controlable when using both hands, yet still short enough to not be cumbersome in close quarters. its a fast up-close weapon.
Impractical as all hell, but awesome looking indeed
This is really fucking cool. I always wondered about where those came from and now I know. I think I'll be seeing more of your content, that's for sure
You could actually make the argument that the 1892 in .44-40 was the assault rifle of it's day.
Absolutely, and the Henry 1860 was the first viable weapon for that role.
@762M80 As good as the Henry was, the Kings gate was a real game changer.
Love your name, btw. Was actually loading a belt for a 1919a4 earlier, (by hand, since I don't have a loading machine) going shooting with a buddy tomorrow. Israeli version.
Steve McQueen made it famous in Wanted Dead or Alive tv show in the late 50s early 60s.
Henry's is in .410 and classified as a firearm as it doesn't fall within any defined terms.
Four of them were ordered by Ushiromiya Kinzo, but he did not used them in battle...
You know good and well spin cocking just cools your opponent into submission !
Very good review of a Hollywood gimmick gun. Until the 1934 National Firearms Act put a $200 bounty on short barrel rifles, Winchester offered a full stock 14" Trapper version of their Model 1892 and 1894 rifles. Existing rifles could be grandfathered in for free with federal permission, but I doubt many people in the 1930s complied with the law, including Hollywood. I say this because John Wayne used something similar to the original Trapper in at least two movies, Stagecoach and Rio Bravo. I've read it was a Model 92 cut down to 15" and fitted with a large loop lever. At least one Hollywood gun rental company later got into a bit of trouble with the forerunner of ATF over such matters. Anyway, while the Mare's Leg is a bit of a joke, the short carbine isn't. I've got a Rossi 16" 92 with a regular lever that is very handy. I personally don't care for the large loop lever and found it awkward when trying to operate the carbine in a normal manner. Yes, it's fun to twirl, but you can whack yourself with it or damage the lever if done improperly. Then there's always the danger of an accidental discharge (which happened to Steve McQueen when he took his Randall Special home to practice and didn't unload it first).
Johnny: “…if you want to be cool as Steve McQueen.” Internet: Who’s Steve McQueen? Johnny: *Sigh* Google him…
I fucjing NEED one in 357 so bad :(
I never realized that the Mare’s Leg was in so many different television shows!
It is more powerful, there is no venting of pressure due to the revolver cylinder gap.
Some say there's more power from a longer barrel too, but black powder makes that less advantageous than smokeless.
At eighteen years of age, I bought a Marlin Lever-Action 44 Magnum rifle at Walmart. In Southern California. It had the standard lever on the action so you had to be mindful of how you would use it, because you could hurt those fingers.
I suggest videos on the:
Winchester rifle series
Mauser rifle series
Lee Enfield bolt action rifle
Remington 870
English long bow
Composite bow
Mauser and Mauser derivatives would be an hour long video by itself, if we consider both controlled and push feed variations, like Ruger 77, Parker Hale, Win mod 70 or Zastava
50’s tv westerns lmao nothing sells a rough and tough cowboy like a mid-atlantic accent
Just a dramatic plot device. As you mentioned, spin is unsafe. That said, a rifle is always the better choice, for accuracy, capacity and steadiness of shooting.
A 30/30 is no joke. Many a deer have graced tables because of it. Hell, I'd be afraid of getting hit with .22 short.
Favorite appearance of this type of weapon is when skull face uses one in mgs5
Repost? Well, time for a rewatch
Gotta get those view numbers back up
Thank you for the support :)
Quite possibly the most worthless firearm of all time. The stupidity is mind-numbing. I know let us take the worst qualities of a handgun and combine it with the worst qualities of a long-arm without having any of the advantages of either. A shotgun maybe kind of since there is no handgun equivalent although if you have the option, why not cut down a semi-auto? I'll never know. But a centerfire? Just plain idiocy.
kool piece Mcqueen !!
I've got a couple Henry Mare's Legs from .22lr up to .410 shot
1:53
Ah yes, very dramatic.
Inherently inaccurate due the fact that you can’t anchor your face to the stock along the sighting plane.
Just another gimmick gun. Totally impractical.
the WInchester in CAS contest at 5"25 is modified with a short stroke kit.... not "origin"...😉
Bill Burr's wife on Firefly killed it with this little gun!
Nia Renee Hill didn't star on Firefly. That was Gina Torres.
That gun was pretty cool in terminator
I know there were some issues getting these in the states, but it was oddly easy to get one here in Canada. I bought mine at Canadian Tire a few years ago. Just a regular firearm, not restricted or anything, either.
Henry still sells them. They're badass.
Hey! Give us a video on the SPAS (Special Purpose Automatic Shotgun) 12 GAUGE... I know all the specs already. But there are those out here who have forgotten about it's legendary place in movie history. I just want to resee some action scenes on your channel about it. And I think I'd give you Great Video Content.
Known movies with it:
The Terminator.
The Hitcher (1986).
The Wrath.
Robocop.
Halloween 4.
Jurassic Park.
The Matrix.
3000 Miles to Graceland.
Just to name a few.
Oh yes, it's in a PLETHORA of video games and a few anime.
Marty Robbins wrote about it also... Big iron ...😁
Was wondering if I would see The Rifleman references
Did it in which you could fire the mare's leg and still be pretty accurate. If you hold the mares leg out in front of you without locking your arms you could get off some pretty consistent shots.
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As John Wayne said: "Fill your hand, you son of a bitch!" Lol. Classic westerns.
I have a Chiappa Scorpio in 44 mag which I carry in the mountains. I do not enjoy firing it and I would never pull the trigger one handed! Pure Hollywood. But I don't travel in bear country without it.
Why carry that instead of a revolver? Are you Canadian per chance?
@huntersmith761 yup
I got a Rossi ranchhand 44 mag. It is awesome come on 44 mag 😂
Impractical but cool! :)
This video keeps making me giggle for all the right reasons.
A dumb concept, and Steve McQueen had a belt full of 45-70 rounds, would be lucky if the gun held 3 rounds….stupid hollywierd concept.
Huh when you think about it the Mare’s Leg could be considered the grandfather of SBR’s.
I got the Henry Mares leg in .44 mag, love it.
Great info. Having been a lover of the lever gun, I am naturally drawn to these
My question is why do we never see other models as a mare leg? Its always the 92. But dont get me wrong i love the 92 its one of my favorites but id love to see a 1873 or maybe 1866 yellow boy or 94 dont think i have ever seen any other then 92
Mines a henry 22 wmr it was a tough decision to go with 22 wmr or 45 colt but i allready had 4 45 colts two of them rifles and a pair of pistols 22 wmr i have a pair of 9 shot sa/da 22/22wmr so settled on getting it in 22 wmr mainly because the cost of ammo i bought it for fun and to go with my22 wmr pistols 22 wmr is a whole lot cheaper to shoot then 45 colt should a emergency ever occur with the smaller caliber ill just double up output and sew them in a defensr scenario pretty sure 9 shots of 22 wmr will be as effective as 3 shots of 45 colt
In the UK most hand guns are banned in Wales, Scotland, England but these Mares legs are legal to own.
Hi again. Good deal man. Catch ya next time Johnny.
That there were handguns in the same caliber and with the same capacity but that were faster and more convenient than the mare's leg is a fun little factoid lol
2:41 In the commentary to T2: Special Edition, James Cameron mentions that it's 10-gauge, so it might be a model 1901.
3:16 Totally McQueen!
first
Can you do one on fouble barrel shotguns exsposed hammer and internal
Thanks, well done Johnny! Chris from BC Canada
I have some episodes of "Dead or Alive" he says in one episode he calls it a 30-30.
It would be more dangerous if you turned it around and used it as a billy club...
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I thought it was first used by the Rifleman TV series.
So it's just a short version of a Winchester rifle got it.
Thanks for featuring the Mare's Legs { brief } appearance in "Once Upon A Time in The West" , as that was the first time I ever saw that particular gun.
Thanks for the video.
I see the appeal of the longer barrel for more velocity from a handgun. Otherwise, I don't see much value to one of these. I guess they would be fun to shoot.
One of the earliest penile compensation devices
Never been a fan of that weapon, I always liked having a decent stock.
another reupload? guess ill watch it again
Sorry about that. At least Ash from the evil dead made this cut.
I miss fistful of frags
holy moly! arnold his spin cocking like a badass!
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Oh yeah I got a toy version of Josh Randles gun when was six, a long long time ago.
Nobody going to look or move as good as Steve.😊Masterclass in cool.
Trigger discipline apparently wasn’t a thing in the “ol’ west” huh?
They all carried (if they were smart) on an empty chamber until about the 1890s. So they wouldn’t shoot themselves in the thigh when on horseback.
Trigger wasn’t a thing till the 80’s I think. I grew up in the Western US in the 50’s-60’s and had a .22 at maybe 6 or 7. My dad, like most in that time, was a WW2 vet. He taught my brother and I gun safety. Muzzle discipline paramount, trigger discipline, well you had to know about the use of the safety, but nobody walked around with their finger on the receiver. In the Army 68-70, again muzzle discipline would get you push ups or worse, finger inside the trigger guard not so much.
Damn. You both made good points that I hadn’t considered. Trigger discipline is something that becomes so ingrained in modern shooters that I was horrified to see some of these clips…
also called hog's leg
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