I feel like Darkhole is insane for this format. There's no mass spell and trap removal, plenty of monster negation (and tribute removal), but Darkhole is killing Gage's field and devastating his resource burning decks, lol.
The original text for Imperial Custom just said that Continuous Traps could not be destroyed. They added ‘By Battle or Card Effect’ because it caused Judge Calls with Trap Monsters
@IC-23 yes, but the issue was people would use it as intended(for trap monsters) and then some butthurt opponent would call a judge complaining that their opponent must be cheating saying they can't walk over trap monsters in battle and insisting that the card isn't supposed to protect from battle destruction(even though it literally protected from all destruction). It had a much more streamlined effect text that had to be erratad to make it more direct because people were stupid and judges were annoyed.
Anyone who says Cimo messing up matters, go to the original video and read the pinned comment. He argues that it doesnt matter because he could have played in a way that the games would've ended the same if he knew to play trap monsters how they used to be.
Besides that, the rules-as-written for trap monsters used to be physically impossible to abide by unless you happened to carry a pair of scissors with you. Not only can a card not physically occupy two places at once, the game lacked the means to signify or clarify this intent. Hence the rule change. And given that they've been playing with MR5 modern rules throughout this season, it simply doesn't make sense for Alex or Gage to make an exception for this extremely niche rule in particular.
yeah, like while he had mbt & friends post prog reaction I watched it there, but now he doesnt and, Im sorry, but I got shit to do and dont have 5 hours to watch the stream only for prog reaction, so why is it bad if you dont give enough crap to postr it on your own channel but you have problem when soemone else does hasanabi has like 10-15 different channels that all post and actually some even profit off of his streams, and he doesnt bat an eye, and regardless how you feel about him, if he can do it, why do they have such a big problem with this
@@nbassasin8092the problem is due to this channel existing mbt & friends was deemed ineligible for monetization. When multiple channels all upload the same videos and then try to monetize them the channel that more consistently uploaded first is deemed the original and the others are deemed to be stealing. This channel fought to post first every week, ultimately leading to vlad losing the ability to monetize the content he had permission to post while this channel got to steal it without permission. If enough channels all steal the same content, NONE of them are eligible for monetization, but in this situation there were only 2 channels so the one that more consistently uploaded first won.
This channel being in the same time zone and rushing to upload first literally is massively slashing the income of the MBT and friends channel, aka the official one. This channel also still says it’s endorsed by MBT, which is just not true lol. So this isn’t about it being a fan channel, it’s about it being in active competition to the official sources of MBT
Progrussy simply is a non-official source and actively Leads to the actually dedicated channel to be demonitized. They are aware of that issue, and still rush to upload the reacts before the actual channel can
Since day one Progrussy has cleared Vlad. Faster upload speeds and for a time, Vlad included sponsored ads. I’ve been a Progrussy rider since day one, unapologetically 🙏🏻
@@BanishforCostI feel like that editing out sponsored segments when you’re literally claiming someone else’s footage is kind of disrespectful lol. This channel actively takes views from the actual content, which is the reason master saga reacts are 1) not on MBT and friends except some cases, and 2) now a week delayed to avoid siphoning views.
@@BanishforCost the thing simply is that the market does care about copyright and so on, and being disrespectful to the person whose content you literally upload without any work done yourself seems like a good way to lose that opportunity.
Id be happy to stop watching on the grussy channel, the problem is vlad hasnt updated the mbt and friends channel in over a month Anyway this episode was pure karma for last week
The reason why vlad stopped the mbt and friends channel is because I'm pretty sure that channel got demonetized, so he makes no money off that channel.
@@queenautumnween2796the problem is that why would I or anyone else do it when there’s a perfect cut out made by someone else already. Mbt really need to just get in contact with this guy or take him down if he wants to keep his clips where it belongs.
It's ok, but costs too many resources, especially when Gage is already burning through his mirrors in order for his deck to simply function, and it's not worth a minus just to effectively weaken Cimo's battle Phaze when Gorz exists.
for everyone whos annoyed with the subreads i can recommend the extension sponsorblock. It detects stuff like the sub reads, marks it and asks you wether you want to skip it!
I just build the Trap Deck in TCG and Master Duel a couple of weeks ago ^^ It is so funny to play. Obviously I'm using the new support and paired it with the Eldlich engine, which also has several Trap Monsters 😀 such a fun deck! Love to make some guys in Master ragequit ^^
Nowadays I feel like Nekroz of Sophia is a sleeper disruption because of its in-hand effect. It just isn't good because it requires you to discard it AND a Nekroz Spell to use, but if it didn't also require a Nekroz Spell discard, it would actually be banned for being such a broken handtrap. Feel free to debate this.
39:10 the chain is actually not gonna stop the damage, the attack was already declared. chain must be activated before the attack is declared and after prio was passed, so end of M1 nevermind the fact that the chain set was illegal because of trap monster 'holding zones' ruling.
Why? it doesnt say that the monster "cant declare an attack", but that it "cant attack" at all. next you wanna tell me that activating gravity bind in response to an attack doesnt stop it.
Cuz it is? When you bring a new (in this case an old updated deck) back into the fold, and it produces good results (completely shut down Cimo last game), it's only appropriate to bring/consider countermeasures going forward no? This isn't a case of hypocrisy or the pot calling the kettle black (both of them have brought silver bullets for each other decks before), nor is it about playing Monarchs. It's about Gage's actions backfiring since bringing attention back to the Monarch/Vanity deck also brought back attention to Mask, which coincidentally, works both with this new deck (which he never knew about) and against Nekroz (which he either failed to consider, or figured he would have enough removal/answers for). That is what Cimo was calling him out on
@@haruhirogrimgar6047yeah no you’re right stun decks absolutely deserve to stay in prog they’re always so fun to watch and don’t just make the episode outright unwatchable
@reydragon2597 Cimo has been playing that same styled deck for the last couple of episodes straight to deal with the DRulers. Infact Cimo ran that same deck for longer.
Like the cheating from alex actually came up every game cause it turns off Tris. Also cant you just still banish for mirror if mask of restrict is up? Man this was a bad episode
alex didn't need to abide by those old rules anyway, they've been abiding by most modern rules this entire time. plus that rule has always been incredibly stupid so genuinely, who cares
This channel vs MBT & Friends is a classic case of "Piracy is a service problem."
100%
is it though
From what I’ve heard is that vlad is currently moving, and I’ll be back there once uploads continue
I just wished Vlad included the memes at the end like Progrussy
@OsirusHandle
No uploads in months and even then when he did upload there were no memes
Cimo is what? HE'S WHAT?!?!?
MBT said that he is probably asleep because he goes to bed at 8:30 PM.
Asleep
I feel like Darkhole is insane for this format. There's no mass spell and trap removal, plenty of monster negation (and tribute removal), but Darkhole is killing Gage's field and devastating his resource burning decks, lol.
"Dont come to progression next week MBT, youre one of the good ones" - Gage probably
The original text for Imperial Custom just said that Continuous Traps could not be destroyed. They added ‘By Battle or Card Effect’ because it caused Judge Calls with Trap Monsters
The only way cards even get destroyed is by battle or card effect, I feel that's pretty clear and self explanatory
@@IC-23pets, humidity, wretched siblings, deranged parents...
@IC-23 yes, but the issue was people would use it as intended(for trap monsters) and then some butthurt opponent would call a judge complaining that their opponent must be cheating saying they can't walk over trap monsters in battle and insisting that the card isn't supposed to protect from battle destruction(even though it literally protected from all destruction). It had a much more streamlined effect text that had to be erratad to make it more direct because people were stupid and judges were annoyed.
@@ChaosDragonreading the card did not explain the card 😂
@@IC-23Cards can be destroyed by game mechanics. Like equipped cards don’t just get sent to GY, they get destroyed.
Anyone who says Cimo messing up matters, go to the original video and read the pinned comment. He argues that it doesnt matter because he could have played in a way that the games would've ended the same if he knew to play trap monsters how they used to be.
Besides that, the rules-as-written for trap monsters used to be physically impossible to abide by unless you happened to carry a pair of scissors with you. Not only can a card not physically occupy two places at once, the game lacked the means to signify or clarify this intent. Hence the rule change. And given that they've been playing with MR5 modern rules throughout this season, it simply doesn't make sense for Alex or Gage to make an exception for this extremely niche rule in particular.
Does he know that unlike his chatters we can just fast forward through the donos lol
Everyone’s reactions were top notch, happy to have seen it twice
46:50 WHAT THERE IS A PROGRESSION PLAYOFF IN PLANS I NEED IT NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW
It still amazes me how MBT and his chat get so stressed over a fan channel like this
yeah, like while he had mbt & friends post prog reaction I watched it there, but now he doesnt and, Im sorry, but I got shit to do and dont have 5 hours to watch the stream only for prog reaction, so why is it bad if you dont give enough crap to postr it on your own channel but you have problem when soemone else does
hasanabi has like 10-15 different channels that all post and actually some even profit off of his streams, and he doesnt bat an eye, and regardless how you feel about him, if he can do it, why do they have such a big problem with this
@@nbassasin8092the problem is due to this channel existing mbt & friends was deemed ineligible for monetization. When multiple channels all upload the same videos and then try to monetize them the channel that more consistently uploaded first is deemed the original and the others are deemed to be stealing. This channel fought to post first every week, ultimately leading to vlad losing the ability to monetize the content he had permission to post while this channel got to steal it without permission. If enough channels all steal the same content, NONE of them are eligible for monetization, but in this situation there were only 2 channels so the one that more consistently uploaded first won.
This channel being in the same time zone and rushing to upload first literally is massively slashing the income of the MBT and friends channel, aka the official one. This channel also still says it’s endorsed by MBT, which is just not true lol. So this isn’t about it being a fan channel, it’s about it being in active competition to the official sources of MBT
0:46 start of subs and self promo
Its crazy how everyone in the thumbnails foreheads make up half their face.
Gage is more like 2/3
Lmao. After the Bun Bun Cream Ad and getting the Discord Call. I wouldn’t be surprised he cleaned out his casha or web history
What's the source of MBT's sub sounds?
Illsay it I like it when MBT does his sub reads, and also like that Progrussy still keeps it in for the bit :)
CIMO IS WHAT
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT CIMO IS
I topped Nationals with Armityle, the Chaos Phantasm in my deck.
Only as my 12 Kaleido target but still
I am the only who prefers to watch it with ProGrussy?
Progrussy simply is a non-official source and actively Leads to the actually dedicated channel to be demonitized. They are aware of that issue, and still rush to upload the reacts before the actual channel can
progrussy will always be the best way to watch these I don't care lmao
Since day one Progrussy has cleared Vlad. Faster upload speeds and for a time, Vlad included sponsored ads. I’ve been a Progrussy rider since day one, unapologetically 🙏🏻
@@BanishforCostI feel like that editing out sponsored segments when you’re literally claiming someone else’s footage is kind of disrespectful lol. This channel actively takes views from the actual content, which is the reason master saga reacts are 1) not on MBT and friends except some cases, and 2) now a week delayed to avoid siphoning views.
@@GeneralHayateTCG definitely disrespectful, but it makes for better content. The market rarely cares about morals as long as the content is good.
@@BanishforCost the thing simply is that the market does care about copyright and so on, and being disrespectful to the person whose content you literally upload without any work done yourself seems like a good way to lose that opportunity.
This was great!
Id be happy to stop watching on the grussy channel, the problem is vlad hasnt updated the mbt and friends channel in over a month
Anyway this episode was pure karma for last week
yeah im not sure why i'd watch that one
The reason why vlad stopped the mbt and friends channel is because I'm pretty sure that channel got demonetized, so he makes no money off that channel.
Another way to /technically/ watch is by watching the vods uploaded to RUclips. But it usually takes a few days for the vod to show up
@queenautumnween2796 that's true I forget about that. if I'm few days late to one of these I'll try that
@@queenautumnween2796the problem is that why would I or anyone else do it when there’s a perfect cut out made by someone else already. Mbt really need to just get in contact with this guy or take him down if he wants to keep his clips where it belongs.
sees Ptolemaeus, instant nova / infinity flashbacks.
CIMO IS WHAT? WHY DID IT CUT? WHAT. IS. CIMOOOOOOOO?!?!?!
MBT said that he is probably asleep because he goes to bed at 8:30 PM.
did gage misread sophia? cause im pretty sure the discount scythe effect is a handtrap effect. would have put it in the side deck at least.
Have you heard of main phase 2
It's ok, but costs too many resources, especially when Gage is already burning through his mirrors in order for his deck to simply function, and it's not worth a minus just to effectively weaken Cimo's battle Phaze when Gorz exists.
@@itsfort2098 have you heard of going second? there is no mp2 in turn 1.
Mom, i got featured on the live!
I def like the older more transparent version of chat over this
for everyone whos annoyed with the subreads i can recommend the extension sponsorblock. It detects stuff like the sub reads, marks it and asks you wether you want to skip it!
That ending
I just build the Trap Deck in TCG and Master Duel a couple of weeks ago ^^ It is so funny to play. Obviously I'm using the new support and paired it with the Eldlich engine, which also has several Trap Monsters 😀 such a fun deck! Love to make some guys in Master ragequit ^^
Gage might ban mask of restrict honestly, it really kills his nekroz deck and vanities turbo if he wants to ever play that snooze fest again.
that's what good progrussy sounds like
51:06
Cimo is what?
Cimo is WHAT?
I need to know!
MBT said that he is probably asleep because he goes to bed at 8:30 PM.
11:12 foreshadowing
Yea Gage realy went there. (After using Domain Monarchs last week).
Words of wisdom:
Cimo is.
3:51 MBT has a crisis over his age and the passage of time
11:00 & 13:32 mbt react to the decks 33:36 yeah..... it is to late
Whats the card behind Cimo in the thumbnail?
Sub skip 3:00
Would magical merchant be useful in this deck??
11:10 it aged worse than milk 😂
3:00 End of subs
Progrussy the 🐐
What did you say MBT? this deck its unbeatable? :D
:D 3 bottomless and 3 prison and 3 compulsory and you say different :D so unbeatable :D
waiting for him to reveal the djin before he veilers, hella chet.
Bruh what else would he be doing with it. He also shotgunned effect
Nowadays I feel like Nekroz of Sophia is a sleeper disruption because of its in-hand effect. It just isn't good because it requires you to discard it AND a Nekroz Spell to use, but if it didn't also require a Nekroz Spell discard, it would actually be banned for being such a broken handtrap.
Feel free to debate this.
Iv unsubscribed from MBTs official channel, i wont take this grussy slander
The song ❤❤❤
39:10 the chain is actually not gonna stop the damage, the attack was already declared.
chain must be activated before the attack is declared and after prio was passed, so end of M1
nevermind the fact that the chain set was illegal because of trap monster 'holding zones' ruling.
Why? it doesnt say that the monster "cant declare an attack", but that it "cant attack" at all. next you wanna tell me that activating gravity bind in response to an attack doesnt stop it.
Zoomer detected
You're so confidently wrong lmao
38:13 wtf how many time cimoo plays Monarchs? and Gage plays it one time and it is his fault that cimoo plays stun?
Cuz it is? When you bring a new (in this case an old updated deck) back into the fold, and it produces good results (completely shut down Cimo last game), it's only appropriate to bring/consider countermeasures going forward no?
This isn't a case of hypocrisy or the pot calling the kettle black (both of them have brought silver bullets for each other decks before), nor is it about playing Monarchs. It's about Gage's actions backfiring since bringing attention back to the Monarch/Vanity deck also brought back attention to Mask, which coincidentally, works both with this new deck (which he never knew about) and against Nekroz (which he either failed to consider, or figured he would have enough removal/answers for). That is what Cimo was calling him out on
what is no 7 sa yugioh
Yu-Gi-Oh!
I LOVE HEARING SUB READ, I LOVR HEARING ALL THE PEOPLE SUPPORTING OUR FAVOURITE WHITE PODCASTER
I'd happily watch this on mbt and friends but you stopped freakin posting these in there.
am I the only one who finds progression close to unwatchable because they use dueling network instead of like… literally any other simulator?
CIMOOO WIN!
WOOT WOOT WOOT!
CIMO IS WHAT :(
MBT said that he is probably asleep because he goes to bed at 8:30 PM.
like #23 lets go!
alex actually came out with floodgate turbo
He played 2.5 floodgates. One just protected his trap monsters.
Continuous trap =/= floodgate turbo.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047yeah no you’re right stun decks absolutely deserve to stay in prog they’re always so fun to watch and don’t just make the episode outright unwatchable
@@end_phase2749 man didn't see your tears last episode when Gageh dished out Vanity's turbo
@reydragon2597 Cimo has been playing that same styled deck for the last couple of episodes straight to deal with the DRulers. Infact Cimo ran that same deck for longer.
@@reydragon2597 pre sure cimo’s entire gameplan games 2 and 3 for most of zexal was vanity’s or chain burn turbo
And they were crap decks then too
good lord mbt chat is such a cringefest
First
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Like the cheating from alex actually came up every game cause it turns off Tris. Also cant you just still banish for mirror if mask of restrict is up? Man this was a bad episode
alex didn't need to abide by those old rules anyway, they've been abiding by most modern rules this entire time.
plus that rule has always been incredibly stupid so genuinely, who cares
He finally moves his head over at 13:10
Thank you, I was getting worried he covers cimo and chat covers gage, as I was typing this out he moved it 😂