In my opinion the problem is, everybody seems to have to use planes, but people are playing ground battles. I don't understand how in ground battles the most important thing has to be planes.
Except it isnt...... you dont HAVE TO use a plane. If oyu relay dont want to do that then use SPAA to counter them......if you realy cant be arsed to do that then you are part of the problem.
I don't understand how in air battles you can win just by killing ground targets and bases in bombers and attackers... Things that totally don't require skill decide about battle.
Bases bombign hasnt been a thign in groudn battles for a long time...just goes to show oyu kanve no idea what you are talking about.... And if oyu think groudn attakcign takes no skill....go ahead...try it...
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Yeah, I have a P47M in my line up for a good reason, I do CAS. And with the damage model buff to planes and the laser guided HVARs is dead easy killing ground targets. Takes practice, not skill. Bombs take skill and I love killing with the 3 the P47 carries, but rockets are easy mode
woha, Orange is uploading again on a regular basis - the free golden eagle app must be back ^^ Nice video mate despite the circumstances in this video being 1 in 10!
Gotta agree with you napal. Almost everytime you get into a german CAS plane there will be at least 1 or 2 planes with better fighter capabilities. Nitpicking situations with no allied/dumb planes around is silly. My spits/wyvern/tempest feast on axis planes with ease even with full payload. Meanwhile i have to climb 3k and BnZ turboprops to get a chance to run in my axis planes.
morderkaih Sounds like someone is not aware of Energy states and how to use them against players who are always over confidant. Funny how Germany has all the best energy fighters.
GamingToday Yeah i dont know about energy combat, thats explain why i climb with my germans planes to not get helicoptered/outaccelerated by turboprops. Are you seriously saying that late 190-109 are better energy fighters than f8f/Gspits/Tempest/yaks/lalas? 109s pre g-2 can energy fight properly but beyond they get clearly outclassed.
morderkaih Actually, Yes. The German D9 and most 109s(Great Buff incoming btw) tier for tier have amazing energy retention in the vertical. Add in throttle control and proper flap use you will and I have out turned spitfires in vertical engagements. The flat circle turns are where the Spit out shines the 109s at lower speed so that is a no no. The D9 on the other hand is a rocket and in air RB will climb with griffin spits, but the D9 does much better on the engine department at high ALT(says my 105kills to 13deaths). With the G2, it may not be as fast in a line as the P51d's but it sure does out class them in every other aspect. What im talking about is something that takes a lot of playing but there are different energy states and Germany has the best use to exploit these advantages. What I do is judge rate of closure and most the time that can give me the info I need for the enemies fighters energy weather im faster or slower. Using that you can engage in a higher energy state in the vertical, if he follows he will stall and be dead.
So strafing some open top light vehicles is the proof that German CAS is comparable to Allied CAS? Orange get your shit together please. Even a He.51 with 7.62mm machine guns can kill an open top vehicle. Of course 109s and 190s can kill enemy planes (and i actually like to dogfight in ground RB) but this is not CAS.
Pinco Pallino Do you even know what CAS stands for? CLOSE AIR SUPPORT and orange did exactly that. Also if you get shot down just spawn spaa and there you go, plane shot down
Close air support in this game means take out important targets with a plane. Open top SPAAs are not important targets. Good luck stopping a Centurion from capping a point with 20mm guns.... on the other hand, the british for example have no problem taking out a Maus that has just left spawn with their loadout of 10000 RP-3 rockets.
Smiws Guess what.... if the Duster has its guns pointed at me I WON'T ENGAGE HIM! It doesn't take a degree to understand how to strafe properly avoiding SPAA.
Try killing ANY SPAA while the guns are pointed at you. I don't know what the fuck your point is supposed to be. Bullets hurt? Yeah, no fucking shit. And I'm pretty sure a Duster is armored beyond the point most German planes can do damage.
German CAS doesn't work in the warthunder meta, things such as the Stuka, hs129 are to slow and can easly be shot down. And bombs on the german fighters are not effective enough to kill multiple enemy's in Warthunder.
Bear in mind that, until they ditch their ordinance, allied CAS vehicles are also very vulnerable as they're so heavy and have so much drag. You just gotta hit them before they ditch their ordinance. Plus, Germans have MK103s at high tier, that are very effective air to ground weapons that don't cost you any flight performance, and the planes that have them usually supplement them with 151s that can be loaded for air to air and still leaving you with more than enough firepower for shooting down aircraft.
It doesnt matter if it hits machine gun port or not. Long 88mm goes thru T34 upper plate as long as its not angled to hell and you dont hit the extra tracks.
This proofs nothing. This is just maxed out crews and perfect rng on your side lol. Look we get it, you have 10000000000 hours into this game. But for the regular player, this won´t cut it or work.
It will work, just your "regular" player needs to: 1. git gud 2. play EVERYTHING 3. stop complaining about non existing bs - just because he is bad and can't counter something. Bitching about CAS is same as about russian bias.
There is one problem with your "show your side to a British APDS shell". And that is, that your Crew Level is 131 with Expert qualification on the Jagdpanther, god knows how high is your Vitality on your Crew. The two crew that took a hit but was left alive were dark(ish) orange. So it's anyones guess if they would be alive if their level was lower. So yes, it's a good advice, and usable even if your crew level is lower, but it might not have the same results if your crew level isn't high. But it doesn't matter how many crew are left alive if he/she hits your transmission or engine, and this has a higher chance of happening since the APDS shell still has more energy left in it after penetrating the side armour. (at least this is how i think it might happen, i do not really know how APDS shells work. And of course this disadvantage doesn't really apply to turreted vehicles.) So it has it's advantages and disadvantages.
the strafing an SPAA and killing a B17 part is a bit misleading, its the same if youre trying to get stat kills for something like a camo but its not the same RP and SL wise. jus sayin
theOrangeDoom *piss everyone whos complaining about CAS by saying its not "op"* theOrangeDoom *show us video of him strafing useless open top targets and call it "hey germany cas is not bad fuck you"*
This is basically the reason I fly almost all of my planes in ground th, because, the dogfights are just so much more satisfying. Playing the British I often just take either the typhoon or tempest with 2×1000lb bombs, blow up some tank that's causing problems, then go and attack the enemy cas. I don't even bother to strafe wirbelwinds and ostwinds most of the time, instead I'll strafe the light skinned vehicles like sturer emils and pt76s or any flak trucks.
Orange, can you make a guide on how to aim with German SPAA. I play them yet I really can't seem to get the aim down with things like the Ostwind or Coelian
There is no good way to aim AAA in this game, because we still don't have stereoscopic rangefinders. Oh hey, a new premium tank for the whales to buy! Off with you, who cares about proper game mechanics, when we can cram in more OP shit?
there is a video made by the British army in ww2 on how to use tracers on the QF2 pom pom, the basic principle applies to most tracers guns. the video is on RUclips
The M41A1 didn't need six shots to kill you. But you get points for doing extra damage. He knew you were a goner, but he wanted you to die so that you can't spot for your team. Also more points for more hits, for both parties.
Regarding you comment about turning your side to an APDS shooting tank: whenever I'm in a FV4202 position - i shoot a TD's into their engine bays. With some waiting it only takes 3 shots to deal with them.
Why does no body seem to recognize the narwhal in ground battles, it has 3 shell options a minengesiß for planes, an HVAP round which is alright, and the amazing APHE shell with 97mm of pen, that shell is able to penetrate any tank from the top and has explosive filler. It one shots tanks as long as you are accurate. So if you are looking for a good German CAS look no further than the Me-262-a1/u4
As much as the 190s are strafing gods, you were also blessed with a good team and bad enemies in this. Credit where credit's due, you did everything perfectly, but if the FV4202 was a bit more patient and went for your driver first or the SPAA didn't try to play Tank Destroyer this could've easily been a different game.
And that's all about it... you just said "you were also belssed with a good team" - german players who bitch about CAS are just bad... and that's why they lose cuz they can't counter it.
The problem with german CAS is most of it was designed to take out light armor and infantry targets because germany doctrine used a lot of tanks so the main threat was enemy air power and infantry overwhelming the tanks. Allied on the other hand designed their CAS to take out heavy tanks because that is what they faced.
nutcrackit I disagree with your historical point here. Allied forces had a strong focus on CAS to disrupt supply lines, precision strike specified targets and ofcourse to provide close support to an almost always advancing ground war.
In my experience in WT, Germans win against Allies around 80% of the time in tier 3-4 matches. Reasons may include: •More heavily armored vehicles •More mobile heavily armored vehicles •Bigger guns •Better SPAA •Faster and more heavily armed fighters
Wut m8? 1) Literally anything except a King Tiger and a Ferdinand is easy kills for tanks at that BR. Panthers, Jagdpanthers, Jagdpanzers, the Panzerjaegers, etc., are easy to pen with most guns. 2) Tigers are among the slowest tanks in the game, the Ferdinand probably the slowest next to the Maus and T95. Panthers are somewhat fast in a straight line, but turning slows them down a lot. Although there is the Jagdpanzer IV/70 which is reasonably fast. Besides, no stabilizer means that the already-slow tanks need to slow down to a stop to accurately fire. 3) Germany's got 88mms and very long 75mms at that range, with one 128 in the Sturer Emil. America's got 90s and Russia's got 122s. 4) Can't argue with that ))) love my Wirbelwind 6) With .50s the way they are now, to be honest American planes have the best firepower imo. And American planes (F6F, F4U, P-51, P-47, P-38) are faster.
SkyEye MCCIX lol you're really triggered. And I'm describing my experience, especially since most tanks I face at the moment are tigers. My 90 mil can't even pen half of the time at like 20 slope. I have to deal with bad armor until waiting weeks for my research on anything more than the m4a3e2, and even then, I can't bounce anything.
i will never get how people can say that spaa is useless, i mean its not like you would have to be particularly smart to get the idea of this type of vehicle... thats why i love playing il2, the community is just so much better
Orange...seriosuly....the fact you had that many spawn points but still didnt load a bomb is triggerign the fuck out of me.... WHY woudl oyu do that. Its not like the bomb pylon woudl have a seriosu effect on your performance once oyu droped it.
LordDarthHarry I think when he chose the Fw in that battle it was with the intention of using it to strafe and counter enemy air, which ofcourse he goes on to do with great effect.
Ru 251 I'd say. It's a tougher tank to play and you're going to die _a lot_ , but it is going to prepare you for the Leopard playstyle, whilst still being useful in top tier alongside the Leopards you'll unlock
:D omg it's you! Big fan over here! Thanks for the advice! (Cringe alert... Oh wait, too late...) And is the La-174 worth it if I have to spend GE to get it? From what I see, it is pretty much the same as the La-15.
IIRC it is indeed statistically identical to the La-15. That said, both are just sexy, sexy planes, and the La-174 is a rather rare treat that can turn some heads. I'd say try to grind for it normally until a day or two before the event ends, and if you think you can't make it buy the rest of the RP with GE.
I really like this video. Guys, Orange is showing us his wealth of knowledge of warthunder in its current state and how to play it for the best results regardless of your opinion on CAS in RB. Respect the grind and take your salt elsewhere 😊
I know this is late but I absolutely kove playing SPAA. Espetialy german SPAA. I can reliably take out a wirb or Ost as my first tnak from my lineup in battle and kill a few tanks and kill any plane with ease. The problem is the P47 spam.
B-6/R3 is sooooo good, ive gotten several 8 kill matchs, in that thing PogChamp, and german CAS wont be effected much by the rocket nerf, so FeelsGoodMan
The RP-3s shoudl stil lbe pretty damn dangerous considerign how much explsive mass they are uspsoe to have. the HVAR is around 3kg of TNT while the Rp-3 is 27kg. That beign said the germans wont relay suffer fro mthe rocket nerf at all. The 210mms had aorudn 50kg of TNT which sohudl be more than enaugh, and the Panzerblitz are HEAT rockets anyway.
the Me 410 are slow, stall very easily, hard to pull up & cant turn fight properly. The Mk 103 are good gun but the plane itself makes it difficult. The firefly is slow too but they can turn fight at least.
so yeah in this video we kill unimportant target using guns but what the fuck your gun gonna do against is6,t34,t29,t95,tortoise and so on which in hundred level more important than just open top SPAA? dumbass.
Dude today I was being trailed by these ki,s and the ki players were absolutely terrible they missed ever shot but as I was about 1 km away the dude fired one last shot as I was pulling away knowing I was a lot faster and he was running out of ammo and the lucky bastard got 3 hits from 1 km away Insta kill , killed my pilot even though it hit me from the back
Its not bad, but way worse than allied CAS....I mean I LOVE the Do-217 M1 (with its 4 1000kg bombs) or the late Fw190 As (the F aswell), but I would actually prefer a british RP-3 slingin death machine than an Fw-190 or any cannon CAS from Germany. I like them far more than allied CAS :D Also to sealclub allied pilots in my Fw-190A is just awesome, so much fun.
In my opinion the problem is, everybody seems to have to use planes, but people are playing ground battles. I don't understand how in ground battles the most important thing has to be planes.
Except it isnt...... you dont HAVE TO use a plane. If oyu relay dont want to do that then use SPAA to counter them......if you realy cant be arsed to do that then you are part of the problem.
I don't understand how in air battles you can win just by killing ground targets and bases in bombers and attackers... Things that totally don't require skill decide about battle.
Bases bombign hasnt been a thign in groudn battles for a long time...just goes to show oyu kanve no idea what you are talking about....
And if oyu think groudn attakcign takes no skill....go ahead...try it...
Yeah, I have a P47M in my line up for a good reason, I do CAS. And with the damage model buff to planes and the laser guided HVARs is dead easy killing ground targets. Takes practice, not skill. Bombs take skill and I love killing with the 3 the P47 carries, but rockets are easy mode
Because there are so many really fun, interesting planes that are literally almost unplayable in air battles.
I still come back every once in a while and remember the good old days
woha, Orange is uploading again on a regular basis - the free golden eagle app must be back ^^
Nice video mate despite the circumstances in this video being 1 in 10!
Gotta agree with you napal. Almost everytime you get into a german CAS plane there will be at least 1 or 2 planes with better fighter capabilities. Nitpicking situations with no allied/dumb planes around is silly. My spits/wyvern/tempest feast on axis planes with ease even with full payload. Meanwhile i have to climb 3k and BnZ turboprops to get a chance to run in my axis planes.
morderkaih Sounds like someone is not aware of Energy states and how to use them against players who are always over confidant. Funny how Germany has all the best energy fighters.
GamingToday Yeah i dont know about energy combat, thats explain why i climb with my germans planes to not get helicoptered/outaccelerated by turboprops.
Are you seriously saying that late 190-109 are better energy fighters than f8f/Gspits/Tempest/yaks/lalas? 109s pre g-2 can energy fight properly but beyond they get clearly outclassed.
was about to say the same. 1 in 10 games are like that!
morderkaih Actually, Yes. The German D9 and most 109s(Great Buff incoming btw) tier for tier have amazing energy retention in the vertical. Add in throttle control and proper flap use you will and I have out turned spitfires in vertical engagements. The flat circle turns are where the Spit out shines the 109s at lower speed so that is a no no. The D9 on the other hand is a rocket and in air RB will climb with griffin spits, but the D9 does much better on the engine department at high ALT(says my 105kills to 13deaths). With the G2, it may not be as fast in a line as the P51d's but it sure does out class them in every other aspect. What im talking about is something that takes a lot of playing but there are different energy states and Germany has the best use to exploit these advantages. What I do is judge rate of closure and most the time that can give me the info I need for the enemies fighters energy weather im faster or slower. Using that you can engage in a higher energy state in the vertical, if he follows he will stall and be dead.
So strafing some open top light vehicles is the proof that German CAS is comparable to Allied CAS?
Orange get your shit together please. Even a He.51 with 7.62mm machine guns can kill an open top vehicle.
Of course 109s and 190s can kill enemy planes (and i actually like to dogfight in ground RB) but this is not CAS.
Pinco Pallino Do you even know what CAS stands for? CLOSE AIR SUPPORT and orange did exactly that. Also if you get shot down just spawn spaa and there you go, plane shot down
Close air support in this game means take out important targets with a plane. Open top SPAAs are not important targets. Good luck stopping a Centurion from capping a point with 20mm guns.... on the other hand, the british for example have no problem taking out a Maus that has just left spawn with their loadout of 10000 RP-3 rockets.
Try killing a duster in a Heinkel while it's guns are pointing straight at you. Good luck
Smiws Guess what.... if the Duster has its guns pointed at me I WON'T ENGAGE HIM!
It doesn't take a degree to understand how to strafe properly avoiding SPAA.
Try killing ANY SPAA while the guns are pointed at you. I don't know what the fuck your point is supposed to be. Bullets hurt? Yeah, no fucking shit. And I'm pretty sure a Duster is armored beyond the point most German planes can do damage.
German CAS doesn't work in the warthunder meta, things such as the Stuka, hs129 are to slow and can easly be shot down. And bombs on the german fighters are not effective enough to kill multiple enemy's in Warthunder.
But German CAS is amazing.... ME410 is very easy...
He 129 and stuka's are not good if there are enemy planes in the air. I don't get why people still use them and get raped.
luxi life what about me410?
Bear in mind that, until they ditch their ordinance, allied CAS vehicles are also very vulnerable as they're so heavy and have so much drag. You just gotta hit them before they ditch their ordinance.
Plus, Germans have MK103s at high tier, that are very effective air to ground weapons that don't cost you any flight performance, and the planes that have them usually supplement them with 151s that can be loaded for air to air and still leaving you with more than enough firepower for shooting down aircraft.
The Do217s work pretty good for CAS as long as there isn't ennemy plane
4:10 how dafuq are the average players gonna take shots like that, this is not for normal players at all
It doesnt matter if it hits machine gun port or not.
Long 88mm goes thru T34 upper plate as long as its not angled to hell and you dont hit the extra tracks.
By not being shit
I'm Average. Git Gud
not 100% if hit the track extra armor
talking like you are so pro you can do it consistently
6:20 Why is there a Pz. IV F2 in a 7.0 match ?
Miguel Mauro God mode.
sturmpanzer 2'd 4 fv4202s in a game one time
Pff... Why doesn't he take the StuG III F?
Liechtenstein Mapper Because F2 is better, especially on this BR
Raphix
You can killl literally *any* tank with the StuG III F
This proofs nothing. This is just maxed out crews and perfect rng on your side lol. Look we get it, you have 10000000000 hours into this game. But for the regular player, this won´t cut it or work.
It will work, just your "regular" player needs to:
1. git gud
2. play EVERYTHING
3. stop complaining about non existing bs - just because he is bad and can't counter something.
Bitching about CAS is same as about russian bias.
Russian bias exists u prove the crap that happens in those things
There is one problem with your "show your side to a British APDS shell". And that is, that your Crew Level is 131 with Expert qualification on the Jagdpanther, god knows how high is your Vitality on your Crew. The two crew that took a hit but was left alive were dark(ish) orange. So it's anyones guess if they would be alive if their level was lower.
So yes, it's a good advice, and usable even if your crew level is lower, but it might not have the same results if your crew level isn't high. But it doesn't matter how many crew are left alive if he/she hits your transmission or engine, and this has a higher chance of happening since the APDS shell still has more energy left in it after penetrating the side armour. (at least this is how i think it might happen, i do not really know how APDS shells work. And of course this disadvantage doesn't really apply to turreted vehicles.)
So it has it's advantages and disadvantages.
+1
the strafing an SPAA and killing a B17 part is a bit misleading, its the same if youre trying to get stat kills for something like a camo but its not the same RP and SL wise.
jus sayin
Also I like that lil piece of intense FOKKEH WULF you had there in the A5/U12.
FOKKEH approved video.
2:13 'I'm playing on Korea' I think you meant 38th Parallel, either way great vid. I'm excited to see those SPAA vids.
my dude 38th parallel is in korea.....
38th parallel was the border between north and south korea. and its the only korean map
iBeast_M0de the map is located in Korea
theOrangeDoom *sees community going crazy because of CAS*
theOrangeDoom *time to abuse and quickly make videos about it while advertising the GE app*
theOrangeDoom *piss everyone whos complaining about CAS by saying its not "op"*
theOrangeDoom *show us video of him strafing useless open top targets and call it "hey germany cas is not bad fuck you"*
Here you can see a rare sightning where wild germam cats win a war thunder match at 6.7-7.0. This is a historical moment.
This is basically the reason I fly almost all of my planes in ground th, because, the dogfights are just so much more satisfying. Playing the British I often just take either the typhoon or tempest with 2×1000lb bombs, blow up some tank that's causing problems, then go and attack the enemy cas. I don't even bother to strafe wirbelwinds and ostwinds most of the time, instead I'll strafe the light skinned vehicles like sturer emils and pt76s or any flak trucks.
Orange, can you make a guide on how to aim with German SPAA. I play them yet I really can't seem to get the aim down with things like the Ostwind or Coelian
Naplamratte made one
Working on it. Till then feel free to drop by the stream, I play SPAA every day :)
Jordan Mozelle just practice nothing else to it
There is no good way to aim AAA in this game, because we still don't have stereoscopic rangefinders. Oh hey, a new premium tank for the whales to buy! Off with you, who cares about proper game mechanics, when we can cram in more OP shit?
there is a video made by the British army in ww2 on how to use tracers on the QF2 pom pom, the basic principle applies to most tracers guns. the video is on RUclips
Part 2. against russian 7.0 team
"Playing air battles wasn't my 2 cents" no orange.
"Playing air battles isn't my cup of tea"
or perhaps
"My 2 cents is that Ground battles are better"
The M41A1 didn't need six shots to kill you. But you get points for doing extra damage. He knew you were a goner, but he wanted you to die so that you can't spot for your team. Also more points for more hits, for both parties.
Focke-Wulves? My inner Kurt Tank is satisfied
Now do a video about the Leo and this time show us the battles you have lost
Regarding you comment about turning your side to an APDS shooting tank: whenever I'm in a FV4202 position - i shoot a TD's into their engine bays. With some waiting it only takes 3 shots to deal with them.
Well, You got really lucky with that T34
Hmm again i find the old smigol
Can someone tell me how I leave my hangar with nothing
Thankfully you don´t have oil in your radiator. That wouldn´t be really good.
How about using Fw-190 F-8 with P.Blitz Rockets ??
Why does no body seem to recognize the narwhal in ground battles, it has 3 shell options a minengesiß for planes, an HVAP round which is alright, and the amazing APHE shell with 97mm of pen, that shell is able to penetrate any tank from the top and has explosive filler. It one shots tanks as long as you are accurate. So if you are looking for a good German CAS look no further than the Me-262-a1/u4
Some of the hardest SPAA I've played is the M15 & the Crusader AA MkII.
How Do You Get the orange left wing
all that this FV4202 had to do is hit the engine :P
WHILE watching this, I had a losing game get turned around by ace 190 players
Oh God orange.
Stop
There's not enough REEEEEE in the world for the people youre triggering kappa
UKoctane thumbnail-octane triggered
The Legionary Romanian fokkeh wulf*
The Legionary Romanian practice practice and more practice.
FOKKEH WULF POWA
Part 2? When?? Bring it on
What I use in the your role is the D12- a hidden gem. Great guns for strafing and I can get a 500kg for a tank kill.
Love to see the rest of that footage
After the first hit you should know where to shoot to hit ammo on the second shot cus of killcam
1:00 I love german CAS,do 335 mk103 with 90mm of pen and 2x15mm with 50mm of pen,usually you kill almost everything from front+me410 with 2x mk103
heavy? yes,flanking or roofing works
mk103 10m 95mm 100m 93mm
As much as the 190s are strafing gods, you were also blessed with a good team and bad enemies in this. Credit where credit's due, you did everything perfectly, but if the FV4202 was a bit more patient and went for your driver first or the SPAA didn't try to play Tank Destroyer this could've easily been a different game.
And that's all about it... you just said "you were also belssed with a good team" - german players who bitch about CAS are just bad... and that's why they lose cuz they can't counter it.
The problem with german CAS is most of it was designed to take out light armor and infantry targets because germany doctrine used a lot of tanks so the main threat was enemy air power and infantry overwhelming the tanks. Allied on the other hand designed their CAS to take out heavy tanks because that is what they faced.
nutcrackit I disagree with your historical point here. Allied forces had a strong focus on CAS to disrupt supply lines, precision strike specified targets and ofcourse to provide close support to an almost always advancing ground war.
In my experience in WT, Germans win against Allies around 80% of the time in tier 3-4 matches.
Reasons may include:
•More heavily armored vehicles
•More mobile heavily armored vehicles
•Bigger guns
•Better SPAA
•Faster and more heavily armed fighters
Wut m8?
1) Literally anything except a King Tiger and a Ferdinand is easy kills for tanks at that BR. Panthers, Jagdpanthers, Jagdpanzers, the Panzerjaegers, etc., are easy to pen with most guns.
2) Tigers are among the slowest tanks in the game, the Ferdinand probably the slowest next to the Maus and T95. Panthers are somewhat fast in a straight line, but turning slows them down a lot. Although there is the Jagdpanzer IV/70 which is reasonably fast. Besides, no stabilizer means that the already-slow tanks need to slow down to a stop to accurately fire.
3) Germany's got 88mms and very long 75mms at that range, with one 128 in the Sturer Emil. America's got 90s and Russia's got 122s.
4) Can't argue with that ))) love my Wirbelwind
6) With .50s the way they are now, to be honest American planes have the best firepower imo. And American planes (F6F, F4U, P-51, P-47, P-38) are faster.
SkyEye MCCIX lol you're really triggered. And I'm describing my experience, especially since most tanks I face at the moment are tigers. My 90 mil can't even pen half of the time at like 20 slope. I have to deal with bad armor until waiting weeks for my research on anything more than the m4a3e2, and even then, I can't bounce anything.
i will never get how people can say that spaa is useless, i mean its not like you would have to be particularly smart to get the idea of this type of vehicle...
thats why i love playing il2, the community is just so much better
part 2 works, this was a good watch.
a part 2 or 3 should definitely be uploaded this was nice
Another video pls
What's CAS?
so basically, german CAS is perfectly fine as long as the enemy team only pulls paper thin TDs and SPAA. sounds good.
Why did that FV4202 not shoot your engine?
A spit wouldn't struggle at all when fighting an FW 190
Orange...seriosuly....the fact you had that many spawn points but still didnt load a bomb is triggerign the fuck out of me....
WHY woudl oyu do that. Its not like the bomb pylon woudl have a seriosu effect on your performance once oyu droped it.
LordDarthHarry I think when he chose the Fw in that battle it was with the intention of using it to strafe and counter enemy air, which ofcourse he goes on to do with great effect.
Yeah...none of which woudl have been realy hampered by equiping a bomb just in case. You can always dump it if you need to.
Seriously. Learn to spell numbnuts
Thank you for your oh so valuable contribution to this conversation.
If you have nothign to add to the topic could you now kindly piss off?
LordDarthHarry the way you answered spencer almost gave me an orgasm
I think RP-3 rocket damage and/or pen is going to be nerfed
Theo Martin no shit
Michiel Bijlsma yes shit
Whale Thunder horse shit
Why is the u 12 6.3 in the thumbnail
after seeing this video: Why not go for some more Butcher Bird action in tank RB ? please?
I really like that you started to do more videos. Keep it up!
What are your video settings and advanced video settings/filters? Your game looks amazing!
Orange UPLOADING... noooo your just pulling my leg
SERIOUSLY well then I guess I get my Christmas presents today
I love the fw-190 A-1
What emblem do you have on your wing?
we r really going to act like p47s arent op
No CAS was founded in this video.
Part 2 and 3 plz
Why is he suddenly only uploading this gamemode?
I NEEDED a video from you and you delivered... fucking brilliant. Seriously though, thank you orange, great video as always
That first shot on the T 34 was pretty sick;)
Thanks doom..great gp...welcome back lol
Jesus 0 situational awareness
out of 10 games, how many games like this one you have? 1?
6.7 german tank rb.
Uses bf 109 G2/trop with a 250 kg bomb
pleas part 2 and 3!
Did he reference ksi? , 2 birds 1 stone
wait, your FW have machine guns, so it have to be the U2 variant
no the U2 has only 2x 20mms and the U12 has 2x 20mm and 2x 7.7mm
I just want a spaa montage.
he cant because he fucking suck or probably he would use top-tier spaa because hes a piece of shit.
I need your help Orange. Should I get a Jagdpanther or Ru 251?
Ru 251 I'd say. It's a tougher tank to play and you're going to die _a lot_ , but it is going to prepare you for the Leopard playstyle, whilst still being useful in top tier alongside the Leopards you'll unlock
:D omg it's you! Big fan over here! Thanks for the advice!
(Cringe alert... Oh wait, too late...)
And is the La-174 worth it if I have to spend GE to get it? From what I see, it is pretty much the same as the La-15.
I also forgot to say o7. o7
IIRC it is indeed statistically identical to the La-15. That said, both are just sexy, sexy planes, and the La-174 is a rather rare treat that can turn some heads. I'd say try to grind for it normally until a day or two before the event ends, and if you think you can't make it buy the rest of the RP with GE.
And cheers lad o7
Do you have that badass La 5 skin.
P2 plz senpai
I really like this video. Guys, Orange is showing us his wealth of knowledge of warthunder in its current state and how to play it for the best results regardless of your opinion on CAS in RB. Respect the grind and take your salt elsewhere 😊
What screen recoder do you use?
The Jagdpanther is literally sooooo sexy
Part 2 and 3 please!
Is this the new free golden eagle intro or the old? It sounds different
Old intro, new app :)
why you are using the "Red John's Smiley" from the Mentalist as your logo? that should be copyright...
Oh this was the video. Yeah fires don't give you spawn points.
the first shot on that T34 was pure luck, sure skill helped, but In the end it was pure luck.
I know this is late but I absolutely kove playing SPAA. Espetialy german SPAA. I can reliably take out a wirb or Ost as my first tnak from my lineup in battle and kill a few tanks and kill any plane with ease. The problem is the P47 spam.
But is it Japanese bad
CAS, CAS, CAS... boring. Please insert another CD.
Waffen rockets are bae tho. At least before nerf. After 1.71 we'll have to see
i thought you said you were going to get better thunbnails?
You should add game sounds in video
Yes, he is comparing german cas busting aa to british cas busting heavy tanks.
this never happend to me enemy is never ssoo stupid ( at least not all of them )
Part 2-3
B-6/R3 is sooooo good, ive gotten several 8 kill matchs, in that thing PogChamp, and german CAS wont be effected much by the rocket nerf, so FeelsGoodMan
except a firefly can dogfight in some degree while the me 410 is just a flying coffin
never said it was better then the firefly my dude, but it will be after the rocket nerf
The RP-3s shoudl stil lbe pretty damn dangerous considerign how much explsive mass they are uspsoe to have. the HVAR is around 3kg of TNT while the Rp-3 is 27kg. That beign said the germans wont relay suffer fro mthe rocket nerf at all. The 210mms had aorudn 50kg of TNT which sohudl be more than enaugh, and the Panzerblitz are HEAT rockets anyway.
the Me 410 are slow, stall very easily, hard to pull up & cant turn fight properly. The Mk 103 are good gun but the plane itself makes it difficult.
The firefly is slow too but they can turn fight at least.
LordDarthHarry rp3 has only around 6 kilos of tnt. The rocket itself weighs 27 kilos.
Tell mike goes boom that.
Doom, I'd LOVE to see more on the Focke Wolf series of planes. Been loving your content on the air to ground "problems" in RB.
I loves to shoot down every plane with every SPAA. I m currently spading the M15 MGC. And its not bad.
do i need to start making videos just debunking oranges BS ?
Yes please
thanks for making this video dude all i see is you tubers bitching about rockets on ally planes.. they seem to forget germany doesn't need rockets.
What about their sluggish characteristic of planes that have mk103s? US and Brits planes out perform them all the time.
so yeah in this video we kill unimportant target using guns but what the fuck your gun gonna do against is6,t34,t29,t95,tortoise and so on which in hundred level more important than just open top SPAA? dumbass.
Dude today I was being trailed by these ki,s and the ki players were absolutely terrible they missed ever shot but as I was about 1 km away the dude fired one last shot as I was pulling away knowing I was a lot faster and he was running out of ammo and the lucky bastard got 3 hits from 1 km away Insta kill , killed my pilot even though it hit me from the back
Its not bad, but way worse than allied CAS....I mean I LOVE the Do-217 M1 (with its 4 1000kg bombs) or the late Fw190 As (the F aswell), but I would actually prefer a british RP-3 slingin death machine than an Fw-190 or any cannon CAS from Germany. I like them far more than allied CAS :D
Also to sealclub allied pilots in my Fw-190A is just awesome, so much fun.
german cas isnt bad the allies just have much better planes and germans have to work harder to get their cas allies i mean brits and us not soviets