Played BDM back on its first release here in Asia (October or November 2019) and played gladiator, titan, destroyer, archmage (Mainly Gladiator and berserker for a short time) then stopped playing at the time of the pandemic. Then I returned almost 3 yrs later (November 2022) and saw Legatus. I fell inlove with this class and to this day I still get a winstreak at pvp (Especially Normal Arena) I really agree to your suggestion to have the skill damage enhanced since it's very low dmg output. I just learned as well it was previously OP then got nerfed ggwp.
Not related to the video. But Mr. Bigfish I need your blessing coz I'm stuck on my +4 necklace. The last one I need to upgrade to chaos and I'm about to lose my god damn mind🤣. PS: Nice Tier list as always. Lookin forward to that Primrose Vid after the buff later👌.
what is your dream class composition for a full 50 member guild? the class and how many of said class that would be ideal for the guild to be composed of main damage dealers, grabbers, and supports
@@k24m76 drak is too soft for a frontliner, she does have a lot of dmg but due to the low sustain and super low bulk she isnt just viable for a dream roster imo, the 20 long range bucca raven combo has way more than enough damage to completely nuke everything too They just need something to draw aggro Lancers are the best choice for a melee dps Gm acts as a bulky tank / aggro magnet/ high burst dps/ grabber Titan same role, but the double grab can be good to completely null a high cp too Zerks just wont cut it imo..i get it, hes tanky but hes got near to no sustain.. Gm is just better cuz hes got way better damage, far Tnkier, has way better sustain and a grab.. Titan, same Theres just no place for zerks for my dream roster, so many better classes
I've only played for 1 month and always see tier list guides like this, regardless if it's PVP or PVE (which is where content like this really helps new players like me to build my own team). so I'm going to ask you a little bit, which one is the most suitable for pvp content (including black sun) between GM, Primrose and warlord?
Archer is Top Tier for War/Siege/GvG...I'm in Legendary on America Server...We literally have people who CC to Archer just for Siege...Titan on Top Tier is nonsensical.
@@unclebigfish I didn't say he had it in Arena...Arena is pointless content. Because your title on that video was, Whale Hunting...I had assumed regular pvp because you can't hunt whales in randomly matched Arena.
@@nmeofdst8 fiy if you know how to play, and have a whale hunter class you can reach top 10 in ranked at any server, I was top 10 VK before EU merge as baron, I was top 100 lancer ranked arena ( before buff) as Duke, not mention I was top 100 all servers EU before merge as nova ( before rework, before buff) same for Lupa I went to master aa lupa, before merge and before rework. yea ranked arena is based on cp for noobs, if tou know all classes skills and your class weakness/strength you can easily work around it, no need to be rerolling to metas every week 😉. I'm retired, but if you check my videos you'll see some open field PVP against whales that could 3 shot me, and I still have killed them a few times in a row, sadly most of my videos are split into into different accounts due to my potato head forgetting account log ins 😆.
@DV This video and discussion was for Mass PvP...not ranked. ...and your fiy is FYI...and you're late cause this list has now changed. I'm 51940cp as of writing this...come hunt me on anything. Your theory only works if the whale hasn't been manually pvping in a top guild since Dec of 2019...
Unkolll, do a tier list of whale hunting class in field (outlaw) please do us a favor like me low who is cp and get bullied always thank you unkolll 🥰😘
Unfortunately its just how it is.. Low cp in bs is all abt numbers Outnumber a whale, and whale will die thats it Theres no foolproof way to beat a whale in field Maybe cheese it with sura or Use fg heavy/grab heavy classes like gm/lancer Or just go braindead and use raven The class that performs absolutely god tier regardless of cp Broken af class Those are probably ur best bet
This is the beauty of tierlists, there is no 100% correct tierlist as there are too many variables we need to put into account But the list above should be pretty accurate from the standpoint of Burst dmg per 5 seconds Tankiness Survivability Continuous dps per 20 seconds Additional debuffs/buffs it can provide for the team
@@unclebigfish alright thank you, just wondering would you say it is a good idea to have for my self an Archmage alt and an Invoker alt just giving an example
I cast random skills in field They do cause debuffs and ground effects The basepower of the skills themselves might not be great But when it keeps coming out.. Itll start to hurt
Played BDM back on its first release here in Asia (October or November 2019) and played gladiator, titan, destroyer, archmage (Mainly Gladiator and berserker for a short time) then stopped playing at the time of the pandemic. Then I returned almost 3 yrs later (November 2022) and saw Legatus. I fell inlove with this class and to this day I still get a winstreak at pvp (Especially Normal Arena) I really agree to your suggestion to have the skill damage enhanced since it's very low dmg output. I just learned as well it was previously OP then got nerfed ggwp.
Not related to the video. But Mr. Bigfish I need your blessing coz I'm stuck on my +4 necklace. The last one I need to upgrade to chaos and I'm about to lose my god damn mind🤣.
PS: Nice Tier list as always. Lookin forward to that Primrose Vid after the buff later👌.
what is your dream class composition for a full 50 member guild? the class and how many of said class that would be ideal for the guild to be composed of main damage dealers, grabbers, and supports
Hmm.. This would be 100% my own opinion
But this roster would be great
10 bucca
10 raven
5 prim
5 shai
5 titans
5 gm
5 Lancers
5 nova
interesting that it didnt include zerker or draks. is it because they dont have the same amount of immunities as ravens and buccs?
@@k24m76 drak is too soft for a frontliner, she does have a lot of dmg but due to the low sustain and super low bulk she isnt just viable for a dream roster imo, the 20 long range bucca raven combo has way more than enough damage to completely nuke everything too
They just need something to draw aggro
Lancers are the best choice for a melee dps
Gm acts as a bulky tank / aggro magnet/ high burst dps/ grabber
Titan same role, but the double grab can be good to completely null a high cp too
Zerks just wont cut it imo..i get it, hes tanky but hes got near to no sustain..
Gm is just better cuz hes got way better damage, far Tnkier, has way better sustain and a grab..
Titan, same
Theres just no place for zerks for my dream roster, so many better classes
29:03 xD bruuuhh
morning sir , i want to know your skill equipment and combo of primrose... i hear she will get rework...
Later,
I've only played for 1 month and always see tier list guides like this, regardless if it's PVP or PVE (which is where content like this really helps new players like me to build my own team).
so I'm going to ask you a little bit, which one is the most suitable for pvp content (including black sun) between GM, Primrose and warlord?
Gm
Agreed with invokers being very very hard to kill!
sad my main is just quit 😔
As a kuno main bots is a real pain, node war isn't THAT bad though, don't get me wrong, still bottom five hands down
Archer is Top Tier for War/Siege/GvG...I'm in Legendary on America Server...We literally have people who CC to Archer just for Siege...Titan on Top Tier is nonsensical.
Lol, werent u the dude who told me that warlord has fg in arenas??
P. S i did say yes, archer is top tier
If u have high cp
@@unclebigfish I didn't say he had it in Arena...Arena is pointless content. Because your title on that video was, Whale Hunting...I had assumed regular pvp because you can't hunt whales in randomly matched Arena.
Youre entitled to your own opinions
@@nmeofdst8 fiy if you know how to play, and have a whale hunter class you can reach top 10 in ranked at any server, I was top 10 VK before EU merge as baron, I was top 100 lancer ranked arena ( before buff) as Duke, not mention I was top 100 all servers EU before merge as nova ( before rework, before buff) same for Lupa I went to master aa lupa, before merge and before rework.
yea ranked arena is based on cp for noobs, if tou know all classes skills and your class weakness/strength you can easily work around it, no need to be rerolling to metas every week 😉.
I'm retired, but if you check my videos you'll see some open field PVP against whales that could 3 shot me, and I still have killed them a few times in a row, sadly most of my videos are split into into different accounts due to my potato head forgetting account log ins 😆.
@DV This video and discussion was for Mass PvP...not ranked. ...and your fiy is FYI...and you're late cause this list has now changed. I'm 51940cp as of writing this...come hunt me on anything. Your theory only works if the whale hasn't been manually pvping in a top guild since Dec of 2019...
Unkolll, do a tier list of whale hunting class in field (outlaw) please do us a favor like me low who is cp and get bullied always thank you unkolll 🥰😘
Unfortunately its just how it is..
Low cp in bs is all abt numbers
Outnumber a whale, and whale will die thats it
Theres no foolproof way to beat a whale in field
Maybe cheese it with sura or
Use fg heavy/grab heavy classes like gm/lancer
Or just go braindead and use raven
The class that performs absolutely god tier regardless of cp
Broken af class
Those are probably ur best bet
@@unclebigfish thankyou beremats ungkol
For now better berseker or primrose sir?
# nanya
Prim better
invoker, just lock and stay back.. range so good
Yup
i think sura tier list in no sweat, cause sura is still work in any field
This is the beauty of tierlists, there is no 100% correct tierlist as there are too many variables we need to put into account
But the list above should be pretty accurate from the standpoint of
Burst dmg per 5 seconds
Tankiness
Survivability
Continuous dps per 20 seconds
Additional debuffs/buffs it can provide for the team
GM also good for pve?
Not really, cus his aoe doesn't cover around him. Mostly only in front of him
Is Raven easy to play?
Can you make a tier list for pve or send me a link of someone doing a pve list
I cant make a pve tierlist, as this is a pvp channel
But if u want to watch a pve tier list
Try see IceXGames
Hes a PVE focused BDM content creator
@@unclebigfish alright thank you, just wondering would you say it is a good idea to have for my self an Archmage alt and an Invoker alt just giving an example
@@Eric-vh8ru no good, low basepower skills
mostly meaning for when balance changes can just log onto the spiritwalker instead of lupa or vise versa with out spending money on the class swaps
U very hate Gladiator ? 😂😂😂
I love gladi, but what i think about him Doesnt matter for the tierlist
Data> opinions
@@unclebigfish ur sound when says gladiator kinda like " i very hate this class " 😂😂
@@rcalisto5864 i hate how bad he is in field pvp hahahah! So poopoo
R u from indo?
@@MrKooderna no
Double meteor really really high damage, angkol playing too much overwatch la 🫣
I cast random skills in field
They do cause debuffs and ground effects
The basepower of the skills themselves might not be great
But when it keeps coming out.. Itll start to hurt