I don't have the Schultz yet. I just acquired the Z-31, and in my first match I citadel'd a broadside Myoko 3 times on just two salvos...Needless to say my jaw landed on the floor. So I'll be moving on to the Maerker and eventually the Schultz, thus continuing my ongoing streak of having never met a German ship that I disliked.
I love these new german ships and elbing are great scout cruisers Different playstyle, Kind of like the pan asian cruiser lines modified playstyle Very rewarding when you get it right
Great vid Derka, this was the exact question on my mind. I’ve been loving this line. On a side note, I’m glad I saved up for and bought Stalingrad a while back. I don’t feel a need to rush to buy Elbing now.
Great vid, I'm loving the vibes in your recent vids, something has changed and it definitely feels better 😃👍 I enjoy this line but I'm too much of an aggressive cap contester to play these ships haha.
In general Elbing plays similarly, but more versatile and it can do that by launching longer range torps while hammering from afar. Schultz is almost exclusively a gun boat because its torps are 8km range and slower than molasses in the winter time.
I have Eric set with mortar and the torpedo skill. I don't care to much about having faster reloadind Boost for a shorter smoke. And these ships are ment to use the guns, so i do prefer to make them more effective. For something middleground, i use furiora, that can focus on concealment and torpedos, without so much detriment of the guns. Love this type of gameplay. GG.
Glad wargamming did this. We been needed a ship on tech tree line similar to ebling. Gives you idea if you want ebling or not playing this destroyer because giving up 1.4 million xp is alot and major decision make.
@@DerkaGames same here. Yes it is a good thing they didn't make one destroyer way better than the other it take away from both destroyers if one ended up way more powerful than the other.
when I play any of the alt german destroyers, i'm often in a situation where i say "ohh no i'm dead"...but I'll live through it and surprised everytime
I didn’t get lucky with the crates last update so I just got z31 but I’ve been super impressed so far. I run a double stealth build using mordoff as the second inspiration it’s been super easy slipping up on seals and clubbing them.
I build Maerker / Elbing for Stealth and torp speed using Bey as a DD hunter. I get 5.2km detection and 60 knot torps. Its a blast this way. DD fighting? Just use AP until they go broadside and switch to HE to finish the job.
@6:50 'If you can control the engagement, there is nothing wrong with going toe-to-toe with other DDs, you just have to have an escape route.' I'm still looking forward to this ship being caught by Kitikaze AP in standard, cause that will be thrilling to watch, based on my encounter with her sister. Anyhoo, I have poured my all piled-up GXP budget on Herr Schultz, as skipping Herr predecessors and saving footwork and silvers.
@@DerkaGamesMy point was meant that so far no CC has issued any video other than when this ship delivers her promises and then folks tend to overlook pitfalls of each ship and get enchanted. In this vid particularly your Plymouth partner did hell of a great deal of the job being bold enough to endevor out and spot red DDs, at least this is my understanding. So what if your BBs mates do not understand Herr Schultz's upsides and downsides and they will not go out of their way to take some demage but rather rally in the same grid square and start gossipig on their yellow belly DD player, I guess it wouldn't be exceptional. Nonetheless, I am always happy to watch videos from any of you (CC), even though I pick you up on something here and there.
My question is does both ships have same ap pen?and ap angles? That is the one thing I was curious about .can u ask blip. I been loving these new German dds. I was thinking why spend 1.4 mill gxp is shultz had better dpm. So thats why im asking about pen and angles . Nvm lol i went back thru ur video you answered my question about ap pen and angles .
The pen angles are the same but Elbing pens at 12km what Schultz pens at 8km (190mm), also Elbing's AP has a higher Krupp (shell hardness) so its shells with shatter less and have a higher chance of penetrating. TLDR: the pen angles are the same but Elbing has WAY better AP pen.
Eh I use concealment with blue as my commander on elbing so I have speed while on the tech tree I choose bay and concealment inspirations alongside mortar
Yeah it's very similar to gj mearker, check that video out. The only discussion is if you want to run mortar or not. If you struggle with low conceal DDs just use Look at Me Now
So, Derka are you, or are you not doing a video on Sovetsky Rosiya? Is it because it's 25k dubs, or you have to whale alot of crates to get it? We all know you got it for 2 weeks for free.
This line is really good, but with how poor i am in game i'm not even close to grind these... As for Schultz itself ? Great Elbonk counterpart Meanwhile Brest ? Only redeeming feature is its called breast, but french BCs needs a MASSIVE buff right now, i'd rather have a Strasbourg in LT than Brest, i mean you got the exact same guns as Dunkerque !
@@caioanglussi7139friesland struggles at longer ranges against elbing/ Schultz cuz of the 25mm armor plate and bad balistic, but friesland can just load ap and melt the Elbing/Schultz at closer ranges
I know it doesn't matter, but Schulz is a better looking ship...Elbing is too wide... With the raked bow, and the split superstructure, Schulz reminds me of 1960's frigates... Just saying...😆
So satisfying to have an ultimate gunboat destroyer that can eat all other ships alive and yea they nerfed the battlecruisers because WG hates brawlers! lol They were disgusted at the notion of a brawler build Columbo on the holiday stream.
@@DerkaGames I mean Bismarck was basically the only brawler that got any love and only after YEARS of the community complaining that the Sabaton ship was not good enough. So clearly we just need to have Sabaton write a song about them and then bitch to WG relentlessly.
@@DerkaGames yep but why devs putted anti aircraft equipment l don’t know why. the Germans anti aircraft artillery is a little bit weak than Americans and European
wtf why it is better than 2m GXP Elbing!? The extra range and ~15% faster reload speed are killer advantage over Elbing! I would trade my ebling for that (Speaking from someone with over 200 games exp on Elbing)
@@DerkaGamesboth have advantages over the other but the Schultz definitely takes the cake with the range and reload advantage. It’s a bit sad that elbing has poor range. With a max build the Shaltz has a 2km advantage
As a chef note, I can't help but noticed that you are not into Italian cuisine, as skating over the fact that there is t8 Italian dd Adriatico as such with the worst concealment.
Derka! Don't you just love this ship, you said it, so much fun! I was pleasantly surprised with the range and the insane AP. Thanks for the review.
It's a blast! Really enjoying her
"Check the Coriolis effect..." killed me, great video derka my beloved
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Your channel is growing quite a lot
Keep it up
Top informative Legends CC
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I don't have the Schultz yet.
I just acquired the Z-31, and in my first match I citadel'd a broadside Myoko 3 times on just two salvos...Needless to say my jaw landed on the floor.
So I'll be moving on to the Maerker and eventually the Schultz, thus continuing my ongoing streak of having never met a German ship that I disliked.
That poor myoko! Haha nice
I love these new german ships and elbing are great scout cruisers
Different playstyle,
Kind of like the pan asian cruiser lines modified playstyle
Very rewarding when you get it right
Couldn't agree more!
Great vid Derka, this was the exact question on my mind. I’ve been loving this line.
On a side note, I’m glad I saved up for and bought Stalingrad a while back. I don’t feel a need to rush to buy Elbing now.
Nice choice on Stalingrad!
Great vid, I'm loving the vibes in your recent vids, something has changed and it definitely feels better 😃👍
I enjoy this line but I'm too much of an aggressive cap contester to play these ships haha.
Yeah you're really good in your Gearing/ US DDs. Thanks Dadcorn ❤️
These new dds make me think that my Z39 needs a reload buff lol.
Awesome job as always.🍻
Yeh it needs a little love lol although the sonar is saucy
@@DerkaGames Oh yes, that sonar is wonderful. Shhhhh...don't tell anyone 🤣
it needs a little more than that
Always Mortar on gunboats. I use twist n track in slot 3. Great video as usual 👍🙂👍
Thanks Games
In general Elbing plays similarly, but more versatile and it can do that by launching longer range torps while hammering from afar. Schultz is almost exclusively a gun boat because its torps are 8km range and slower than molasses in the winter time.
Spot on!
I was having a hard time deciding between Stalingrad and Elbing and I think this helped me narrow it down!
That's so much GXP lol
@@DerkaGames im almost to 1.2million! Decision time nears! lol
I have Eric set with mortar and the torpedo skill. I don't care to much about having faster reloadind Boost for a shorter smoke. And these ships are ment to use the guns, so i do prefer to make them more effective. For something middleground, i use furiora, that can focus on concealment and torpedos, without so much detriment of the guns.
Love this type of gameplay. GG.
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The AA on elbing kicks ass got a clear sky in it last night
It does indeed!
Glad wargamming did this. We been needed a ship on tech tree line similar to ebling. Gives you idea if you want ebling or not playing this destroyer because giving up 1.4 million xp is alot and major decision make.
Agreed! I'm just glad ones not completely better than the other. It's a fair trade between the two I'd say
@@DerkaGames same here. Yes it is a good thing they didn't make one destroyer way better than the other it take away from both destroyers if one ended up way more powerful than the other.
when I play any of the alt german destroyers, i'm often in a situation where i say "ohh no i'm dead"...but I'll live through it and surprised everytime
I recently got the ZF6, it is pretty fun but the bad ballistics makes it much harder to use AP against DDs at long ranges.
True true, these new boats power crept a lot of German boats, z-39 included
I didn’t get lucky with the crates last update so I just got z31 but I’ve been super impressed so far. I run a double stealth build using mordoff as the second inspiration it’s been super easy slipping up on seals and clubbing them.
Been there, once in early access I only got the T4 pan euro DD. Had to grind the whole way. ugh
I build Maerker / Elbing for Stealth and torp speed using Bey as a DD hunter. I get 5.2km detection and 60 knot torps.
Its a blast this way. DD fighting? Just use AP until they go broadside and switch to HE to finish the job.
Nice build
@6:50 'If you can control the engagement, there is nothing wrong with going toe-to-toe with other DDs, you just have to have an escape route.' I'm still looking forward to this ship being caught by Kitikaze AP in standard, cause that will be thrilling to watch, based on my encounter with her sister. Anyhoo, I have poured my all piled-up GXP budget on Herr Schultz, as skipping Herr predecessors and saving footwork and silvers.
"getting caught" isn't controlling the engagement haha Kita will eat this alive if too close. Good ship you wont regret going for it
@@DerkaGamesMy point was meant that so far no CC has issued any video other than when this ship delivers her promises and then folks tend to overlook pitfalls of each ship and get enchanted. In this vid particularly your Plymouth partner did hell of a great deal of the job being bold enough to endevor out and spot red DDs, at least this is my understanding. So what if your BBs mates do not understand Herr Schultz's upsides and downsides and they will not go out of their way to take some demage but rather rally in the same grid square and start gossipig on their yellow belly DD player, I guess it wouldn't be exceptional.
Nonetheless, I am always happy to watch videos from any of you (CC), even though I pick you up on something here and there.
My question is does both ships have same ap pen?and ap angles? That is the one thing I was curious about .can u ask blip. I been loving these new German dds. I was thinking why spend 1.4 mill gxp is shultz had better dpm. So thats why im asking about pen and angles . Nvm lol i went back thru ur video you answered my question about ap pen and angles .
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The pen angles are the same but Elbing pens at 12km what Schultz pens at 8km (190mm), also Elbing's AP has a higher Krupp (shell hardness) so its shells with shatter less and have a higher chance of penetrating.
TLDR: the pen angles are the same but Elbing has WAY better AP pen.
I have really fallen in love with these destroyers. They are such bullies and have found in lower tiers even BBs back off quickly.
Me as well, some of my faves now fr
And many reds sent team hate mail that game! Talk about a ROFLstomp, Derka! 😂
Haha you win some and lose some...we defo won this one tho!
Where do you find the accuracy and penetration stats? Thank you.
I used to get my pen stats from wowsft.com, but it has since shut down. Now i get them from Princeblip lol
elbing
mmmm
I love this line.
It's just a mini cruiser and that's how you should play.
But I see enough people trying to turn the line into a torp boat 😑
Oof yeah bad torp boats
I run ebbing with a full concealment build. I like it enough
Is the elbing way better with ap pen? Or only a little better then elbing
That part I do not know...and have no way of checking now with wowsft shutting down. I just know "it's better"
Eh I use concealment with blue as my commander on elbing so I have speed while on the tech tree I choose bay and concealment inspirations alongside mortar
solid
Does the same apply to the z31? I've been struggling with her and I think I'm playing it wrong.
Yeah it's very similar to gj mearker, check that video out. The only discussion is if you want to run mortar or not. If you struggle with low conceal DDs just use Look at Me Now
Nice
what’s your opinion about the Sovetskaya Rossiya? is she worth 25k
No ship is worth that 😀 but in my testing of her I haven't been super impressed
derka should i get des moines or yamato
Des Moines
Of course they’re different, one is named Elbing and the other one is named F. Schultz
You should start a YT channel 😄
Elbing has way more ap pen too
"If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball"
Bruh wish I could've remembered the 5 Ds lol. Dodge, dip, duck, dive....and dodge lol
So, Derka are you, or are you not doing a video on Sovetsky Rosiya? Is it because it's 25k dubs, or you have to whale alot of crates to get it? We all know you got it for 2 weeks for free.
Won't do a standalone vid on it. Not enough views for my time. May do a full AL wave 5 collab video
Ok man. For a minute I was thinking you were trying to get by without doing one. I will be awaiting your content. Thanks.
This line is really good, but with how poor i am in game i'm not even close to grind these...
As for Schultz itself ? Great Elbonk counterpart
Meanwhile Brest ? Only redeeming feature is its called breast, but french BCs needs a MASSIVE buff right now, i'd rather have a Strasbourg in LT than Brest, i mean you got the exact same guns as Dunkerque !
Haha if I'm being real I haven't even tested them
It would be cool to do like friesland vs schultz without torping
Schultz would win at long range
@@David_Z220 yep, but what i mean is at super close range when the friesland is not angled so schulz would get only overpens, but it has about 30k hp.
@@caioanglussi7139 at super close range friesland is unbeatable
@@David_Z220 but friesland is like 18k
@@caioanglussi7139friesland struggles at longer ranges against elbing/ Schultz cuz of the 25mm armor plate and bad balistic, but friesland can just load ap and melt the Elbing/Schultz at closer ranges
Shultz
My 1st battle 2 kills
Downed 23 planes
I know it doesn't matter, but Schulz is a better looking ship...Elbing is too wide... With the raked bow, and the split superstructure, Schulz reminds me of 1960's frigates...
Just saying...😆
haha I neglected that part of the comparison!
I think we need new commander like run and gun same as other nation should be more fun with this ship
I wouldn't complain about a new German DD commander
So satisfying to have an ultimate gunboat destroyer that can eat all other ships alive and yea they nerfed the battlecruisers because WG hates brawlers! lol They were disgusted at the notion of a brawler build Columbo on the holiday stream.
Maybe that's the case...I'd hate to see these nerfed!
@@DerkaGames I mean Bismarck was basically the only brawler that got any love and only after YEARS of the community complaining that the Sabaton ship was not good enough. So clearly we just need to have Sabaton write a song about them and then bitch to WG relentlessly.
@@Sempergrumpy441 😄🤣
Shame Schultz doesn’t have a sonar it would be better to spot enemy destroyer
It would be unstoppable
@@DerkaGames yep but why devs putted anti aircraft equipment l don’t know why. the Germans anti aircraft artillery is a little bit weak than Americans and European
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wtf why it is better than 2m GXP Elbing!? The extra range and ~15% faster reload speed are killer advantage over Elbing! I would trade my ebling for that (Speaking from someone with over 200 games exp on Elbing)
Elbing has plenty of high points still imo
You didn’t watch the video?
@@DerkaGamesboth have advantages over the other but the Schultz definitely takes the cake with the range and reload advantage. It’s a bit sad that elbing has poor range. With a max build the Shaltz has a 2km advantage
As a chef note, I can't help but noticed that you are not into Italian cuisine, as skating over the fact that there is t8 Italian dd Adriatico as such with the worst concealment.
what's an Adriatico 😆 honestly forgot that thing existed
So Elbing is the better cruiser and Schultz is the better destroyer.
Hear me out, elbing torps are the best in game
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Day 6 of asking for the Lexington review (This free Elbing looks good)
Oh my
Turn on national Voicelines lol.