Hey, just some more information. In the GB version, press select on the start menu. You will see an icon pop up. Once that shows up, press start. You will see that the maze will be scaled down to the point where you can see the whole thing.
There is technically another version of Pac Man for the NES. The European PAL version, and it plays differently. The change in timing puts ghosts in different places. So if you play by NTSC maze pattern routines, you won't get far.
The best Game Boy Pac Man game is from Namco Museum 50th Anniversary for the GBA, the screen is stretched but it can be changed to rotated for GB Micro, and Scrolling, but I'd stick to stretched screen since it shows the whole Pac Man maze
1:38 but did you know that there´s a full screen mode in the title screen just press control pad left or right and then 1/2 will appear press start and the screen will show the full maze
This was more information than I knew. I'd still be interested in both Tengen versions. The original Game Boy version, too, accepting that it probably plays better with color (for ghost behavior).
The Special Color Edition of Pac-Man for the Game Boy Color is superior because Pac-Attack is included on the cartridge and the original Pac-Man game itself is in full color.
You know's what's interesting? There has been 4 released of this Pac-Man game in the U.S. Official Tengen version in 1988, unofficial Tengen version in 1989, unofficial Tengen 10th Anniversary version in 1990, and official Namco Hometek version in 1993, after Tengen stopped producing NES games.
But why did it took so long for namco to put their pacman on nes? How was tengen able to come with an official licensed version of it in 1988? Did namco loaned the rights to tengen or did tengen it iligally.
Before Namco opened their American branch in 1990, they had an agreement with Tengen (who was created by arcade manufacturer Atari) to publish their games on the Nintendo Entertainment System. That's why you saw licensed versions of both Pac-Man and Rolling Thunder in the early days.
I have, and I wasn't a huge fan of it. That said, I accept your point. I was specifically talking about the original Pac-Man, but there are plenty of examples of the franchise having scrolling stages in later games.
The Namco version arrived at my mailbox today ordered it last week cost me 44$ on EBay plays great but for people that want a cheap copy just get the Tengen licensed one which costs around 15$
Side note for PAC-MAN pros: Another reason not to buy the GameBoy version is that you can't tell the ghosts apart. This makes where they'll go all the more unpredictable.
The GBC version fixes that problem with different color ghosts, the original even on a SGB makes all the ghosts the same color, but just stay away from the ghosts, and you'll do fine. Plus the GB and GBC Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man games are super cheap to buy.
I own the Game Boy, and Game Boy Color versions of Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man, I like them all the same as the big console versions. Oh and there is one thing different about the versions of Pac-Man, the price of the Namco variant is far higher than the Tengen variant, and is less common. I was lucky to score the Namco Ms. Pac-Man NES version for $20 (it too is approaching the $100 mark), still desire that Namco variant due to the extra options it has over the barebones Namco version.
Tengen variant I desire, not the Namco variant, since I own the Namco one already. I don't want the Namco Pac-Man version though, since it's basically the version Tengen built off of for it's release.
From what I'm reading, Namco developed and held the original rights to _Pac-Man._ Namco also bought the Japanese division of Atari (just that division, not the whole company). Atari was given license to publish the existing Famicom version of _Pac-Man_ on the NES, which they did through the Tengen label. First, Atari had license to release the game on the NES (gray cartridge), then Nintendo revoked that license due to a dispute, so Atari published the game without NES license (black cartridge). Years later, Namco decided to officially re-release the game themselves on the NES (gray cartridge). So, assuming that the ROM on both Tengen cartridges are exactly the same, is there was any difference in the ROM between the Tengen and Namco versions? With only the screen captures provided in this video, the later Namco version has the trademark TM symbol next to the title. Any difference in game play (scoring / bonuses) isn't shown in this video. Now armed with this information, I can only assume that any difference in game play, the Namco version _should_ in theory be closer to the Arcade version, but that's only my educated guess. I genuinely don't know if there's _any_ difference between the three versions. If we for the moment ignore Atari's history with Nintendo, then there's nothing special between the releases to make one more appealing to a collector over the other two versions. The first Tengen version had Nintendo's license to publish for their system, the second Tengen version did not, and the Namco version had Nintendo's license. This is the information I was looking for when trying to decide which versions to add to my wishlist: all releases are valid, with the unlicensed Tengen (black) cartridge being of interest to those wanting to collect Tengen games.
Why should you avoid the Game Boy version.....? Simple, you can't differentiate the ghosts from one another. The Game Boy Color version is the one you are looking for!
You're going to have to be more specific. There are many pacman books. But I can tell you that neither of the NES pacman games play like the original arcade puckman game which is what I think most of the books would teach. If you're taking about how to win at pacman then you can see that there NES version is very different and the ghosts have different movements from the original pacman.
Huh, I always thought that they were more different, like the Tengen and Namco releases of Ms. Pac-Man on the NES. I guess the NES Classic system really has nothing then that I couldn't play from my own pool of originals.
Make it 4 versions. Mine looks the same as the right screen shot in the side by side comparison showing 1980 1984, then TENGEN in red right below, BUT below that it reads: licensed by Nintendo of America INC.
+Daniel Kessler That's right- Tengen put out their unlicensed black cartridge, then apparently got it licensed some time later and released a gray cart version. Craaaay-zeee.
It is kinda funny how that was. Of course Ms. Pac-Man on the NES was different if you note how the Tengen version was much superior to what Namco did in the 90's by simply modifying it's Pac-Man rom for it's release.
it's kinda crazy to think that this was the best could do back then. cause someone literally made a clone and imo it's 10 times more accurate than the one from back in the day. here's a link to some gameplay: ruclips.net/video/sLyKJUaT5NA/видео.html
This is one of the earliest videos I posted. If I were to make it today, I definitely would have gone into greater depth and would have addressed all of the versions you mentioned.
I have no fucking idea why they didn't realese Pacman gbc on virtual console yet wether if they didn't like it or the couldn't figure it out with ms.pacman
Is that how you are supposed to pronounce, Tengen"? "Teng-Gin"? I always said it like, "Ten-Jin" O_O I'm always finding things like this I always said wrong!
+28SNaKeS Ten Gen That is how it's pronounced like it's 2 different works but it's not. It is the center of the board for the game GO, the very same game the name Atari comes from. Tengen was Atari Games the arcade division of Atari that was created when Warner Communications split the company into 2 halves. Atari Corp was bought by Jack Traimel who just recently got booted out of Commodore. He had the rights to home consoles, computers and other home products. Atari Games was sold to Namco which was the Arcade division. Arcades were dying in the late 1980's (only to get a brief revival in the early 1990's with games such as Smash TV, Street Fighter 2, Mortal Kombat) so they wanted to get into the home market. NES was dominating at the time so they wanted to make games for them. But they didn't have the rights to use the Atari name and logo on home consumer products as that was owned by Jack Traimel, so they called themselves Tengen taking the word from the game GO just like Bushnell took the name Atari from in the early 1970's.
28SNaKeS I just gave you a rough history. It does a little deeper than that. But the short version is, Tengen aka Atari Games eventually got bought by Warner Communications in the mid 1990's, then Warner sold it off to Midway in the late 1990's and then rebought it when they bought Midway in 2010 or so. So basically 1/2 of Atari is back home again where it started with the VCS.
Could you be more specific-which version is "the other version"? Which one awards bonus points, and is it true to the original arcade version? I've seen a few arcade cabinets when I was little, but I don't recall _Pac-Man,_ so I wouldn't know the difference.
@@doctorpetrovich9296: That's a very indefinite answer. Rather than posting as a reply here, I'll post my findings as an original comment so that it will be more visible to anyone wanting to read it.
nothing wrong with the Game Boy Pac-Man. It's quite fun and addictive. :-) I purchased it on the Virtual Console for my 3DS and it's been worth every penny I paid for it.
Hey, just some more information.
In the GB version, press select on the start menu. You will see an icon pop up. Once that shows up, press start. You will see that the maze will be scaled down to the point where you can see the whole thing.
full screen mode
I discovered that on accident when I had the color edition of pac-man for gameboy
I thought everyone who played the GameBoy version knew this. I guess not…
There is technically another version of Pac Man for the NES. The European PAL version, and it plays differently. The change in timing puts ghosts in different places. So if you play by NTSC maze pattern routines, you won't get far.
The Game boy version still beats the Atari 2600 version by a long shot.
True... though I like the 2600 version myself. it's almost like the 2600 version is a Pac-Man spin off. LOL
@Joey Ford its playable, just not the best version. Is it's own beast.
actually the Gameboy version of Pac-Man is quite good. I do believe there is a way to see the whole screen I just forgot how to do it.
Press select on the title screen.
or pres the left key on the menu and this works on game gear
It looks and plays like Pac-Man should, can't go wrong. One doesn't always have to rely on ghosts patterns to survive.
The best Game Boy Pac Man game is from Namco Museum 50th Anniversary for the GBA, the screen is stretched but it can be changed to rotated for GB Micro, and Scrolling, but I'd stick to stretched screen since it shows the whole Pac Man maze
1:38 but did you know that there´s a full screen mode in the title screen just press control pad left or right and then 1/2 will appear press start and the screen will show the full maze
You also can play the NES version on the My Arcade Pacman mini arcade game.
This was more information than I knew. I'd still be interested in both Tengen versions. The original Game Boy version, too, accepting that it probably plays better with color (for ghost behavior).
I like how the gameboy version of pacman shows a closer attempt to make the nes music closer to the arcade.
Wow, that zoom in added difficulty for the GB version haha
The Special Color Edition of Pac-Man for the Game Boy Color is superior because Pac-Attack is included on the cartridge and the original Pac-Man game itself is in full color.
Pac-Attack would be the only reason to get it.
You know's what's interesting? There has been 4 released of this Pac-Man game in the U.S. Official Tengen version in 1988, unofficial Tengen version in 1989, unofficial Tengen 10th Anniversary version in 1990, and official Namco Hometek version in 1993, after Tengen stopped producing NES games.
But why did it took so long for namco to put their pacman on nes? How was tengen able to come with an official licensed version of it in 1988? Did namco loaned the rights to tengen or did tengen it iligally.
Before Namco opened their American branch in 1990, they had an agreement with Tengen (who was created by arcade manufacturer Atari) to publish their games on the Nintendo Entertainment System. That's why you saw licensed versions of both Pac-Man and Rolling Thunder in the early days.
"scrolling BREAKS the rule of a pac-man game" Have you NOT played Jr. Pac-Man?
I have, and I wasn't a huge fan of it. That said, I accept your point. I was specifically talking about the original Pac-Man, but there are plenty of examples of the franchise having scrolling stages in later games.
I own the Tengen unlicensed version and the Namcot Famicom version.
I've got a fever and the only prescription is...more Pac-Man! Pac-Man (NES) review coming sooner than not soon!
The Namco version arrived at my mailbox today ordered it last week cost me 44$ on EBay plays great but for people that want a cheap copy just get the Tengen licensed one which costs around 15$
Not seeing no difference so wonder why it's a difference in price? I noticed the price difference cause Im wanting to order for the nes
Side note for PAC-MAN pros: Another reason not to buy the GameBoy version is that you can't tell the ghosts apart. This makes where they'll go all the more unpredictable.
The GBC version fixes that problem with different color ghosts, the original even on a SGB makes all the ghosts the same color, but just stay away from the ghosts, and you'll do fine. Plus the GB and GBC Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man games are super cheap to buy.
I own the Game Boy, and Game Boy Color versions of Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man, I like them all the same as the big console versions. Oh and there is one thing different about the versions of Pac-Man, the price of the Namco variant is far higher than the Tengen variant, and is less common. I was lucky to score the Namco Ms. Pac-Man NES version for $20 (it too is approaching the $100 mark), still desire that Namco variant due to the extra options it has over the barebones Namco version.
Tengen variant I desire, not the Namco variant, since I own the Namco one already. I don't want the Namco Pac-Man version though, since it's basically the version Tengen built off of for it's release.
From what I'm reading, Namco developed and held the original rights to _Pac-Man._ Namco also bought the Japanese division of Atari (just that division, not the whole company). Atari was given license to publish the existing Famicom version of _Pac-Man_ on the NES, which they did through the Tengen label. First, Atari had license to release the game on the NES (gray cartridge), then Nintendo revoked that license due to a dispute, so Atari published the game without NES license (black cartridge). Years later, Namco decided to officially re-release the game themselves on the NES (gray cartridge). So, assuming that the ROM on both Tengen cartridges are exactly the same, is there was any difference in the ROM between the Tengen and Namco versions? With only the screen captures provided in this video, the later Namco version has the trademark TM symbol next to the title.
Any difference in game play (scoring / bonuses) isn't shown in this video. Now armed with this information, I can only assume that any difference in game play, the Namco version _should_ in theory be closer to the Arcade version, but that's only my educated guess. I genuinely don't know if there's _any_ difference between the three versions. If we for the moment ignore Atari's history with Nintendo, then there's nothing special between the releases to make one more appealing to a collector over the other two versions. The first Tengen version had Nintendo's license to publish for their system, the second Tengen version did not, and the Namco version had Nintendo's license. This is the information I was looking for when trying to decide which versions to add to my wishlist: all releases are valid, with the unlicensed Tengen (black) cartridge being of interest to those wanting to collect Tengen games.
Also, Atari Inc. split into Atari Corporation and Atari Games in 1984, Atari Games was still partially owned by Namco and created the Tengen label
Why should you avoid the Game Boy version.....? Simple, you can't differentiate the ghosts from one another. The Game Boy Color version is the one you are looking for!
Thanks for the info for sure. Was looking at getting one of the NES versions.
Do the patterns from the Pac Man book work on the Tengen version?
You're going to have to be more specific. There are many pacman books. But I can tell you that neither of the NES pacman games play like the original arcade puckman game which is what I think most of the books would teach.
If you're taking about how to win at pacman then you can see that there NES version is very different and the ghosts have different movements from the original pacman.
you sound like bentley from sly cooper and i love that
Huh, I always thought that they were more different, like the Tengen and Namco releases of Ms. Pac-Man on the NES. I guess the NES Classic system really has nothing then that I couldn't play from my own pool of originals.
All Tengen versions are _licensed_. It's just a matter of cartridges they made compared to what Nintendo underproduced.
"Revoked?" Tengen left Nintendo to publish without a license, not the other way around.
oof, my family already got the GB version, and that was a decade ago
Make it 4 versions. Mine looks the same as the right screen shot in the side by side comparison showing 1980 1984, then TENGEN in red right below, BUT below that it reads: licensed by Nintendo of America INC.
+Daniel Kessler That's right- Tengen put out their unlicensed black cartridge, then apparently got it licensed some time later and released a gray cart version. Craaaay-zeee.
just got the Tengen version in the mail yesterday :)
Was it the licensed Tengen version or the black cart version? It's a great port.
But the thing is, I don’t like the NES version of pacman because the ghosts patterns aren’t the same
what about the game boy color version
So DREADFULLY slow!! I could never go back from Championship I and II.
It is kinda funny how that was. Of course Ms. Pac-Man on the NES was different if you note how the Tengen version was much superior to what Namco did in the 90's by simply modifying it's Pac-Man rom for it's release.
the gameboy version of pacman is the best one for me
it's kinda crazy to think that this was the best could do back then.
cause someone literally made a clone and imo it's 10 times more accurate than the one from back in the day.
here's a link to some gameplay: ruclips.net/video/sLyKJUaT5NA/видео.html
I had the Game Boy version of Pac-Man. It wasn't that bad.
What about other versions like:
MSX
Gameboy (Classic/Color)
Game Gear
and SNES/Super Nintendo?
Sega Genesis/Mega Drive
This is one of the earliest videos I posted. If I were to make it today, I definitely would have gone into greater depth and would have addressed all of the versions you mentioned.
@@DefunctGames Ok :I
Meh
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@DefunctGames I:P
GAMEBOY Wins
Nes Tengen & Nes Namco Versions are same no different for both they are 100% same i don't see any difference and nothing that's it
Game boy version has a way to go full screen...wouldn't suggest it tho
Thanks for the public service announcement.
The Game Boy version of Pac-Man isn't that terrible though and btw there's a fullscreen mode in the game too.
Review - Pac-Man (Game Boy)
how'd you get blue text
and how did you manage to make it have a link
Even the famicom namcot versions the same
All I'm gonna say about the NES version of Pac-man is.... Yellow Eyes........
I have no fucking idea why they didn't realese Pacman gbc on virtual console yet wether if they didn't like it or the couldn't figure it out with ms.pacman
Is that how you are supposed to pronounce, Tengen"? "Teng-Gin"? I always said it like, "Ten-Jin" O_O I'm always finding things like this I always said wrong!
+28SNaKeS
Ten Gen
That is how it's pronounced like it's 2 different works but it's not.
It is the center of the board for the game GO, the very same game the name Atari comes from.
Tengen was Atari Games the arcade division of Atari that was created when Warner Communications split the company into 2 halves. Atari Corp was bought by Jack Traimel who just recently got booted out of Commodore. He had the rights to home consoles, computers and other home products.
Atari Games was sold to Namco which was the Arcade division. Arcades were dying in the late 1980's (only to get a brief revival in the early 1990's with games such as Smash TV, Street Fighter 2, Mortal Kombat) so they wanted to get into the home market. NES was dominating at the time so they wanted to make games for them. But they didn't have the rights to use the Atari name and logo on home consumer products as that was owned by Jack Traimel, so they called themselves Tengen taking the word from the game GO just like Bushnell took the name Atari from in the early 1970's.
+CF-105 Games wow man! Thank you for the detailed responce, it was a great little read! Thank you :)
28SNaKeS
I just gave you a rough history. It does a little deeper than that.
But the short version is, Tengen aka Atari Games eventually got bought by Warner Communications in the mid 1990's, then Warner sold it off to Midway in the late 1990's and then rebought it when they bought Midway in 2010 or so. So basically 1/2 of Atari is back home again where it started with the VCS.
I like the Tengen better
Why is it better? They are both the exact same game.
only the bonus life was the different on the NES bec on the other version of pacman on the NES you will get a bnous at 10,000 and 40,000 pts
Could you be more specific-which version is "the other version"? Which one awards bonus points, and is it true to the original arcade version? I've seen a few arcade cabinets when I was little, but I don't recall _Pac-Man,_ so I wouldn't know the difference.
@@Christopher-N i think it's made by tengen if i remember right or namcot
@@doctorpetrovich9296: That's a very indefinite answer. Rather than posting as a reply here, I'll post my findings as an original comment so that it will be more visible to anyone wanting to read it.
@@Christopher-N i'm sorry about that
1:28 I made that mistake D:
They are the same game
They are the same
allo je m'appelle Arthur je Love Pacman
so fast video
to bad i got the game boy one!
nothing wrong with the Game Boy Pac-Man. It's quite fun and addictive. :-) I purchased it on the Virtual Console for my 3DS and it's been worth every penny I paid for it.