You have seriously changed shooting for me. I went from shooting very well when I first began the sport...two deer in two years hunting trad...to then trying to get better at shooting and getting so mixed up and frustrated I didn't even want to shoot my bow anymore. You have brought the joy back and I'm shooting better than ever. Absolutely love your content, thank you again!!
Hello Sir, This whole series is great. I recently switched to thumb draw because of a tendon injury. Your videos relating to thumb draw helped me with that because I didn't want to have to buy new bows! I'd love it if you could add to this series anything specific to shooting with a thumb ring or glove. For instance "the hook" for thumb draw and anything else that would change on your shot cycle. Thanks again!
Good info. thankyou. I use the deep hook, similar to the Olympic that you described. I have big hands and shoot a longbow with a 3-under style. If I shoot alot, a callous develops on my ring finger that is a hard bump. I get better groups by moving the tip of my ring finger back a bit so the string doesn't slide across the callous/bump. For a while I tried the fingertip grip. It worked ok but I soon developed pain in the first joint of my middle finger so I gave it up.
Greg, very good video. One thing you left out and I am sure you know is with a deep hook to the first joints you get a more relaxed grip no pressure on the back of your hand a which gives you a cleaner release. The deep hook lets you use your back more also. you hook the string towards the tips of your finger it puts tension on the back of your hand which can/will effect your release. Thank you and keep having fun and enjoy yourself. Alan
Good video series, I've been referring others to them. The USA Archery instructor certification book refers to the bucket handle drill to establish a good consistent hook.
I'm liking the "Black Widow" tab with "finger fenders". It has a different design that feels natural without having to break it in........A Yost is in the mail too.
Nice lesson and very important along with the anchor. I'm beginner archer and right away after a few shots I notice how much influence do your grip depth (three under). For my self I prefer shallow grip because after a minute thinking I decided that as less the string slides through you fingers during the release, as less the fingers affects the correct vertical axis position of the bow. It is because your fingers have to go longer way until their full stretch which, is pushing your string toward your body (inside) and probably the bow itself (around vertical axis). It is a bit feeling insecurity but easily you can get used to it. Moreover the release became more sharply like a compound bow's triggers which could put more energy to the shot... im not sure about that, just speculating :) Thank you.
As you draw back with deep hook, do you make sure the finger tips are always pointing backwards and not uncurling under string tension? I just can't figure out how to completely relax my string fingers. If I do the string will slip away so I have to consciously maintain the hook and prevent it from uncurling. When I see videos like Jimmy Blackmon he seems to hook the string effortlessly and completely relaxed and the string still stays in the joints the whole way. If I don't do the omg it's deep hook, the uncurling would be very easy and right around anchor I'd be struggling because I can and should still pull back more but that would cause the hook to flatten and the string would just slip away immediately before a solid anchor. That happens if my string hand is relaxed, as a result I am not anchoring properly. The alternative is that I consciously apply some amount of strength to my fingers and make them maintain the hooking shape all the way. That works for me but my string arm isn't relaxed so I'm not 100% on my back tension.
I know people that do it both ways and each thinks it is best. It really comes down to what works best for you. In my opinion, people take the relaxed hand the wrong way. The hand cannot be relaxed and hold the string, there has to be tension. But that tension is in the fingers, not the hand. To understand better what I'm saying, think or try his. Hold your self off the ground with just your fingers holding onto a edge. It is very much like how you hold a string. Notice that all the effort is from the knuckles forward to the fingers. Now try it again, but this time bend at the knuckles, as you hand. Notice how much more effort that takes. That is what they mean by a relaxed hand. The first method, the hand works less and is not carrying the load. Does that make sense?
It is a home made three under. I took an AAE Cavalier Tab (Split Finger) and used the Cordovan leather from a Fred Eichler three under. The best of both worlds. I really like it.
Great Show and Tips. I have always wondered about when you draw the bow that is canted maybe 10 + - degrees left or right depending on the shooter do you try to keep the drawing hand in line with the cant ?? Or just let the string be torqued as you draw. Hope this makes sense. My poor shooting style is that I come to anchor with the bow canted right and the string straight back. HMMM any ideas and tips Thanks for a great show
You are suppose to keep them at the same angle. Which I think most people do. When you see me cant my bow, it is because of the string hand. Something I too am working on. As for your problem, have you tried not canting the bow?
Many thanks for the speedy reply. And yes I have tried not canting and am more consistent but old habits are hard to break. Again thank-you for the very interesting program.
What are you doing at 58m? I know of a completion that shoots at 50, but nothing at 58. What your are doing, the gear you are using, all play part in which anchor you should use
@@TradArchery101 Sorry typing error. I meant 50 m. Please watch one of my shorts videos in an orange jacket, you will know the kind of bow I am using. I am struggling to find my anchor point.
@@Sangey_archery Okay, 47 is a good poundage for that distance. Seen from the video you hand is going a little past the mouth. They placing either your index or middle finger at the corner of your mouth. You can also go to split finger, which will help get the arrow closer to the target.
Hi, Greg! I have the same ringfinger problem. I shoot 3 under with a glove, tried a lot of hooks, but the problem is still there. How did you solve it? I'd like to see a video on that topic. All the best!
I use longer bows, that helps a little to relive the pinch. I also played with where I grip the string with that finger and finally I use a very heavy glove. Those three things have helped, but I can still feel it from time to time.
A slightly more consistent way of placing your fingers on the string when using a tab is to slide the tab up against the nocking point instead of the nock of the arrow
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You have seriously changed shooting for me. I went from shooting very well when I first began the sport...two deer in two years hunting trad...to then trying to get better at shooting and getting so mixed up and frustrated I didn't even want to shoot my bow anymore. You have brought the joy back and I'm shooting better than ever. Absolutely love your content, thank you again!!
Thats a game changer... i used to got the finger pressure thing wrong. Most pressure on index finger at set position works perfect. Thank you!
Best RUclips videos on archery.
One of the best archery channel.
Another winner!! Love your videos Greg.
you really got me looking at my hook and I found it needed work. great video
Hello Sir, This whole series is great. I recently switched to thumb draw because of a tendon injury. Your videos relating to thumb draw helped me with that because I didn't want to have to buy new bows! I'd love it if you could add to this series anything specific to shooting with a thumb ring or glove. For instance "the hook" for thumb draw and anything else that would change on your shot cycle. Thanks again!
Good info. thankyou. I use the deep hook, similar to the Olympic that you described. I have big hands and shoot a longbow with a 3-under style. If I shoot alot, a callous develops on my ring finger that is a hard bump. I get better groups by moving the tip of my ring finger back a bit so the string doesn't slide across the callous/bump. For a while I tried the fingertip grip. It worked ok but I soon developed pain in the first joint of my middle finger so I gave it up.
Great Video Mr. Greg.
Greg, very good video. One thing you left out and I am sure you know is with a deep hook to the first joints you get a more relaxed grip no pressure on the back of your hand a which gives you a cleaner release. The deep hook lets you use your back more also. you hook the string towards the tips of your finger it puts tension on the back of your hand which can/will effect your release. Thank you and keep having fun and enjoy yourself. Alan
Good video series, I've been referring others to them. The USA Archery instructor certification book refers to the bucket handle drill to establish a good consistent hook.
Nice job! Thanks again!!
Thank you 🙂
I'm liking the "Black Widow" tab with "finger fenders".
It has a different design that feels natural without having to break it in........A Yost is in the mail too.
Nice lesson and very important along with the anchor. I'm beginner archer and right away after a few shots I notice how much influence do your grip depth (three under). For my self I prefer shallow grip because after a minute thinking I decided that as less the string slides through you fingers during the release, as less the fingers affects the correct vertical axis position of the bow. It is because your fingers have to go longer way until their full stretch which, is pushing your string toward your body (inside) and probably the bow itself (around vertical axis). It is a bit feeling insecurity but easily you can get used to it. Moreover the release became more sharply like a compound bow's triggers which could put more energy to the shot... im not sure about that, just speculating :) Thank you.
Thanks
What brand is your left hand tab ?? Where do you buy one ? Ty Mark
AAE Cavalier, I bought it from Lancaster Archery
I chopped of 3/8 inch from my middle finger when I was a kid on the front door.......OMG, I am Handicapped! : )
As you draw back with deep hook, do you make sure the finger tips are always pointing backwards and not uncurling under string tension? I just can't figure out how to completely relax my string fingers. If I do the string will slip away so I have to consciously maintain the hook and prevent it from uncurling. When I see videos like Jimmy Blackmon he seems to hook the string effortlessly and completely relaxed and the string still stays in the joints the whole way.
If I don't do the omg it's deep hook, the uncurling would be very easy and right around anchor I'd be struggling because I can and should still pull back more but that would cause the hook to flatten and the string would just slip away immediately before a solid anchor. That happens if my string hand is relaxed, as a result I am not anchoring properly. The alternative is that I consciously apply some amount of strength to my fingers and make them maintain the hooking shape all the way. That works for me but my string arm isn't relaxed so I'm not 100% on my back tension.
I know people that do it both ways and each thinks it is best. It really comes down to what works best for you.
In my opinion, people take the relaxed hand the wrong way. The hand cannot be relaxed and hold the string, there has to be tension. But that tension is in the fingers, not the hand. To understand better what I'm saying, think or try his. Hold your self off the ground with just your fingers holding onto a edge. It is very much like how you hold a string. Notice that all the effort is from the knuckles forward to the fingers. Now try it again, but this time bend at the knuckles, as you hand. Notice how much more effort that takes. That is what they mean by a relaxed hand. The first method, the hand works less and is not carrying the load.
Does that make sense?
Thanks 👍
Hey Greg. Great video. I am sure you have probably answered this question before. What tab are you using in this video? Thanks.
It is a home made three under. I took an AAE Cavalier Tab (Split Finger) and used the Cordovan leather from a Fred Eichler three under. The best of both worlds. I really like it.
Great Show and Tips.
I have always wondered about when you draw the bow that is canted maybe 10 + - degrees left or right depending on the shooter do you try to keep the drawing hand in line with the cant ?? Or just let the string be torqued as you draw. Hope this makes sense.
My poor shooting style is that I come to anchor with the bow canted right and the string straight back.
HMMM any ideas and tips Thanks for a great show
You are suppose to keep them at the same angle. Which I think most people do. When you see me cant my bow, it is because of the string hand. Something I too am working on.
As for your problem, have you tried not canting the bow?
Many thanks for the speedy reply.
And yes I have tried not canting and am more consistent but old habits are hard to break. Again thank-you for the very interesting program.
I have a question, please help me with anchor points for three under at 58 m range
What are you doing at 58m? I know of a completion that shoots at 50, but nothing at 58.
What your are doing, the gear you are using, all play part in which anchor you should use
@@TradArchery101 Sorry typing error. I meant 50 m. Please watch one of my shorts videos in an orange jacket, you will know the kind of bow I am using. I am struggling to find my anchor point.
Take down Long Bow, what Poundage?
I see that you want to anchor low on your face. Did you come from Olympic Archery?
@@TradArchery101 my bow has 47 poundage. No sir, I am a beginner.
@@Sangey_archery
Okay, 47 is a good poundage for that distance. Seen from the video you hand is going a little past the mouth. They placing either your index or middle finger at the corner of your mouth.
You can also go to split finger, which will help get the arrow closer to the target.
Hi, Greg! I have the same ringfinger problem. I shoot 3 under with a glove, tried a lot of hooks, but the problem is still there. How did you solve it? I'd like to see a video on that topic. All the best!
I use longer bows, that helps a little to relive the pinch. I also played with where I grip the string with that finger and finally I use a very heavy glove. Those three things have helped, but I can still feel it from time to time.
A slightly more consistent way of placing your fingers on the string when using a tab is to slide the tab up against the nocking point instead of the nock of the arrow
the OMG hook is my favourite 😂
Oh..... My groups are HUGE TODAY. I think perhaps I have gone crazy.
My experience I have more weight on my ring finger and it's more callous then the other finger.