Fascinating! | Sennheiser HD800S Review
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Where's DMS' channel link in the description?
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@@JoshuaValour Can you write the names of songs you mentioned in the video? Also the one that plays at the end of the video and some people asks the one that plays in intro too. It can be hard to pick up names by listening, especially for us non native english speakers. Next time, can you please write the names of songs in the video, that'd be super helpful. Have a nice day.
No, wife said I don’t need another headphone. No, wife said I don’t need another headphone. No, wife said I don’t need another headphone.
Wife says you have enough headphones as she does not have enough designer bags.
Z O Wait a minute! Do we have the same wife?
@@DoNotTellWifeIBoughtThis LMFAO!
Ok. So hows the new headphones?
RustyGates No, I’ve sold them all.
(They are great, and they only say things that I love to hear)
Freaking awesome I’ve been waiting for this one and just asked you in the last video!! Thank you so much josh! These are headphones I’d like to listen to before I die.
17:50 - For anyone interested in how these do for gaming
A hero.
Thanks
800S for gaming??
Joshua, you have a unique ability to speak “sound”. I really appreciate your descriptions it’s almost as if I was listening my self. Thanks for the effort you put into these.
Finally! That’s my baby! For music, movies and gaming. 👍
Congratulations on getting sponsored!
I'm really enjoying your music recommendations, especially Avi Kaplan.
Woa.. good one :)
Great review.
The passion and enjoyment, pros and cons all came through in an engaging way.
I´m glad that you finally made some justice to the HD800(S), you nailed it in this review. I´ve modded mine with the SDR long time ago, and coupled with a Burson Conductor is my go-to headphone for classical/instrumental music and movie soundtracks. The clarity, soundstage and transparency are outstanding. For vocals and pop/rock you need a complementary HP like an LCD2 and you´re set with the best of both worlds.
What about just 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s?
Great Video! I think the quality got even better in the past videos. I like it a lot (in Jim Carrey voice).
Also: thanks for the awesome song recommendations. Please include more of it. This way we all can build our own audiophile playlists. 🤘
I just got a pair of the HD800S's and I absolutely love them! Plugged into my Neve RNHP, it is sonic bliss! I never heard anything better than these.
I listened to Hans Zimmer on the 800S at Warsaw Audio Video Show 2019 and I had little tears in my eyes... great headphone! LOVE IT! and I love standard 800 too!
Total beginner here, but I walked into to local HiFi store thinking I was going to buy this but just wanted to audition other stuff just to see what's out there. Tried this against a hifiman Aeon (didn't have the Arya) a focal elegia and clear, and some others I can't remember. Walked out empty handed cause I liked the focal clear better but couldn't say why. Before that all I had was a Shure 535. Saw your focal clear review and a few others comparing this and the Clear and ended up purchasing the Clear. Bottom line was the balance. This 800s is a surgical scalpel and efficient in the hands of a professional, wasn't for me at all. The Clear just makes stuff sound beautiful especially female vocals.
I appreciate your work and it really helps those of us getting into the hobby understand what it is we are really looking for when we don't know the words to express it.
Joshua Valour Very objective, truly and neat review, Congrats Josh!.
I admire your ability to describe a sound experience with words. You are a master at this!
Finally, thanks Josh!
I thought you'd never check these out since you weren't a fan of both the 800 and 820. Glad to see another vid!
Get sponsored son! Nice. Great review. As an Arya owner looking forward to your comparison. Pls throw in the LCD-X too.
Excellent review and production. Josh, you and I have very similar taste in sound signature and what we like. I also own many of the headphones you reviewed. I also prefer pleasure of critical listening. Please make a comparison with Ayria and the HD800S.
Maybe even LCD X but I feel my LCD2C is good enough so would rather see the other two compared.
Someone who can actually talk in sound tech language. Great review. Good communicational review
I own this headphone since 2017 and I love it for what it is. I think that you are spot on.
I use the THXAAA789 with it and thats a fantastic match!!! I also use the Chord Hugo 2 as a DAC/AMP or as a DAC with the THX and the resolution is insane.
Great review!!! 👍
Love your content ❤️🙏
Awesome, Review, need these headphones asap.
Dunno why I'm watching this while using my 800S. But I agree with what he says. I don't have fatigue when listening to my music. Let some of my friends try it who have no experience with pricey audio gear and they all agree it sounds amazing.
Nice review. I have SDR modded HD800 (modded by myself) it sounds exactly the same as HD800s. I like how it sounds but dynamism, smoothness and low frequencies extension on my SR007mk2 is far better.
Good review 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Very comprehensive review. I bought these pretty much the day I heard that they came out, having used the HD650 from 20 years ago, followed by the HD700. What I learned from those applies to these as well. Sennheiser, in my view at least, uses some of the worst headphone cables ever out of the box. I changed the cables on these to Cardas latest "Clear" cable, and that took a great headphone over the top. It's a pure Litz wire that has exceptional high end transparency, while the stock wire sounds gritty and noisy to me. This also shifts the balance away from the distracting high frequency noise and the bass and mods become bigger and more balanced, while not losing anything in terms of the huge soundstage or detail that you describe so well. There are online stores that allow you to try out and return cables, and I strongly recommend to anyone that is considering these that they experiment with a very high end wire. Thank you for your review.
Your intro's are insane Josh, keep going mate!!
good review! i really want these when the ps5 comes out!
40k subscribers with such amazing production? How are you not over a mil yet?
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I think his videos are too slow paced. Everytime i watch his videos, i have to ramp up the speed to 1,25. If he puts more emphasis on optimizing video length (which i`m sure he does already), his viewership should rise imo.
which audio reviewer has a million subs? you need to go to tech reviewers or auto guys .
Love the professional feels, I'll subscribe then
I love playing Destiny with you my man!
I got mine in this week and can certainly see what you mean about the treble being bright and the Ses are a bit sibilant at times. Overall they sound fantastic even on my 2019 Jotunheim (I think something changed since your review of it as I hear no compression compared to my husbands Magni Heresy).
Currently waiting for the Dekoni Elite Hybrid pads to come in as a few audiophile friends said they help alot with everything on the headphone (like you did) once the pads break in. Thank you for this awesome and honest review as It helped me decide if I wanted to take the plunge on my dream headphones.
Yep I hated these headphones till I put dekoni hybrids on them now I wouldn't swap em for anything
13:34 I think you meant "Chris Jones". I enjoy that song too. Very good!
The Sennheiser HD800S is the improved version of the HD800 which corrected an audible and distracting midrange resonance issue. The 800 and 800S are renowned for their highly accurate, highly detailed sound, localization and enormous sound stage. The 800 and 800S are open ear headphones, which I believe are best for acoustic and classical music. Bass heavy dance music and rock music are not going to sound great on the 800 or 800S. The sound produced is so accurate it will be uncompromising in revealing deficiencies (flaws) in the recording, mixing and mastering process.
Thanks for this detailed comment!
Spot on! Great and accurate review like always Joshua! Maybe Sennheiser 800s will be my next headphone. Recently I just bought a dt1990pro ( because of your review) and I would like to ask you if is it good for competitive gaming too? For Bf5? Thank you and keep up the exellent vids!:)
Hey Josh, did you notice if the soundstage was altered for gaming or otherwise with the Dekoni Elite hybrid pads? I game with an original unmodded HD 800(on your advice)with a Woo Audio WA7tp. I have not done the SuperDupont resonator mod as I read that it reduces the soundstage(apparently similar to the slightly reduced sound stage on the HD 800S compared to the stock HD 800). I'm treble sensitive but love my current expansive and immersive soundstage. I would love to hear your thoughts on the pads and must say what an absolutely beautiful song you ended the video with! Thanks again, Josh. Congrats on your first sponsor!
I like this guy. Mysterious.
Good review.
You might want to hold off for the new Air Motion Transformer based HEDDphone, some early impressions have suggested its very close the LCD4 for nearly half the price.
The best headphone I've ever had was the HD800s paired with the Schiit Loki and the bass turned up by 1/3. After that it's perfect!
Finally I got mine with Schiit Bifrost + Lyr 3. Absolutely love it! But his latest review of Focal MG Pro…make me curious because I never try that headphone before.
The B roll footage is very nice.
Hope you can get your hands on some LCD-4z as they are exactly the sound signature you are describing to be your preference!
Great review! How do you clean your headphones? Especially the pads? Thanks
HD800S best gaming headphone. Focal Clear MG my favorite headphone of all time. My daily combo. Thanks Joshua.
Currently I got the HD 660s. Would these be a direct upgrade or is the soundstage a lot different? I am looking to these and the ZMF Auteur.
Hi Joshua i have a question. Do you use ATMOS for headphones or DTS x for gaming or do you leave it on default stereo ?
Good review Josh. Worth pointing out that the 800S includes a quality balanced XLR cable which makes up a good portion of the price difference over the 800. Would love to see a comparison review to Beyerdynamic T1, which I think is likely the closest competitor to the 800S.
Mine didn’t come with an XLR cable
@@ThotsAndPrayers pentaconn?
@@rauldon273 yeah, but no XLR. You have to buy that separately.
@@ThotsAndPrayers what's wrong with pentaconn? oh right; if you don't hav sennheiser's hdv 820, then you'd need the XLR-4 cable.
@@rauldon273 my dac/amp requires xlr for balanced output
Listen to the Buena Vista Social Club album, it is AMAZING with HD800S.
ZMF verite? Sounds to be exactly what you said at the end. Detailed and almost as 3D stage as the 800s but fully with more body and musicality.
Nice review once more... can you upload a list of albums you prefer according the headphones you use? like the recomendations for hd800s...
About the Dekoni pads.. does the inner fabric not bother you by how they touch the tip of your ears? I've been debating cutting out the fabric and giving them a try again. I just got some for my HD800's today and not sure if I like them yet or not.
What are you using for virtual surround in games? Dolby Atmos / DTS X or just stereo?
Would you ever consider any ZMF dynamic headphones to buy for yourself?
Love your reviews!
Any plans to review the Schiit Magni 3+ and Magni Hersey? Interestingly the Hersey measures better but some say the 3+ sounds better objectively. Both put out 2.4w which for $100 is great. Or even a $100 headphone amp shootout :p
I have a big pile of headphones here including Audeze but I'm listening to my Sennheiser HD590s out of my Gilmore Lite Mk2, the tear drop cups are just so comfortable. lol
Hey Josh, one thing I would love to see you do in the future is start weighing the headphones with and without cables. I am finding manufacturers claims of weight to be very misleading.
Great video. Any chance you may review the monoprice retros?
How do they compare to the Elex, in general?
Are the 800s the best gaming headphones on the market today? How much of an upgrade on the Elex for gaming?
Arya, bro. Best of both worlds; fun and analytical.
Can you compare this to DT1990 ? I'm really curious about your opinion.
I have the Dekoni Fenestrated pads which I really like; are the sound signiture differences similar to the Fenestrated with the Hybrid pads? If you have tried the Fenestrated pads?
I currently have a NAD C328 amplifier. Is that good enough for the HD800S? How should I evaluate whether an amplifier is "good enough" for these headphones?
If you want to judge a headphone like the HD800, throw classical music at it, not just a bunch of songs. When the gear calls for it, as it does here, you should be able to discuss how it handles symphonies, piano concertos, string quartets, etc. Of course, that would not sound cool to your target audience, but at least you would have done these headphones justice. I just saw Currawong's review of the HD800S. He basically described it as a dumbed-down HD800. I have to trust his review more than yours since at least he knows that you judge the HD800 more by how it handles a symphony orchestra than a show tune.
I agree. If it can handle live classical recordings, it will work well in general.
As an Audio production person, should I get this headphone or both the Beyerdynamic 1770 and 1990? I need 1 open back for mixing/referencing and 1 closed back for tracking.
Hi. New to the stream. I love your comments and expertise. Pity I can't afford most of the headphones you experience. But lovely and clean videos however.
Thanks great info and review, hope to one day have a HD800S. BTW shazam is absolutely useless in identifying your lead in and exit music tracks..
@joshua valour hey joshua! I was just wondering how dt 1990 pro and hd 800s compare in terms of musical enjoyment. I have dt 1990 pro and i was wondering if it is worth it to spend 1600 euros in my country to get hd 800s. I am just audiophile not music producer. I use headphones for music pleasure. Also which is the better headphone overall soundwise in your experience? Thanks in advance.
would the sh''' hel 2 with Sennheiser hd800s sound great on the ps5?
Hi Joshua, I have ordered HD800S to pair it up with Fiio M17 and PL50 combo. I am wondering which tube amp would you advice to my chain to warm up the headphones and give bottom end little more slam. I have been looking at Feliks - Echo 2, would it be good enough for my chain or you have different opinion? Thank you in advance!
Hi, I really enjoy your video. after watching it, I decide to buy one of the HD800s and LCD - x, any suggestions?
Joshua adds the 800S to “his top recommended”.... who cares this headphone is the most sold high end headphone for few years already. If you see his videos you know that he is obsessed with ‘’vocals’’ but if you are the kind of person that loves musical instruments, harmonies, melodies, harmonics, room detail, spaciousness, recording detail, texture and maybe complex music like classical orchestral or jazz no doubt this is your headphone. By the way singers sounds amazing here too just the headphone don’t put them in your face. Ahh and bass is also Amazing is just not emphasised like the audeze headphones. I agree in some cases the headphones could be a bit thin sounding but that is not necessarily bad. Actually that is very realistic sounding. This headphone can make you look to your room asking yourself where the sound is coming from more than any other headphone. I’m happy he start appreciating this cans, it was taking you a while.
Thank you for the review very enjoyable
I have turned my head around and replayed certain parts of songs more times than I like to admit thanks to the HD800S lol.
Audeze have flat bass. It's not emphasized. Maybe more dynamic but not emphasized. If anything, the 800/800S have emphasized bass because of the 100 Hz impedance hump which makes the bass sound fat. It was so bad that I could hear it in Oluv's sound demo.
I agree that audeze headphones are having flat bass but it’s all very emphasized all the way down. People can’t hear 20hz as the same level as 1khz. I agree that some emphasis down there give a nice thick and full sound specially for music like EDM but in audeze are too much. Horrible headphones for music production for example ..... the X are probably their best technical headphone but still not good for that.
Sorry for making this comment twice... my ipad crashed when I was commenting and I didn’t notice
@@jhontroll4612 "Emphasized". No. It's flat all the way down. That's a speaker engineer's wet dream but speakers don't have that good of a response down there unless they're very big or have many drivers and have to pull all sort of tricks to get there.
Planar bass is about as good as you can get. Minimal distortion, no weird impedance humps that fatten the bass, and great extension.
Bought a pair of HD800s after seeing this. Going to be used for gaming, discord and music. Thanks for the gaming part of the video :)
How did you like it so far? And have you bought an amp?
@@4bdull784 Yea I bought the SMSL SP200 amp and the Topping D50s dac (with P50 powersupply). Sounds amazing. Love it :)
@@magnusavr Am considering an 800S for gaming as well. What headphones did you game on previously and was the 800S really a step up?
@@shootinbruin3614 I used a DT990 with a Creative G6 before. Been a month since i have heard the DT990 now. All I can say is that the 800S sounds amazing. Yes I would say it sounds better. Just how much better that is another question. The 800s is way more comfortable and can be used for several hours without a problem. You ears wont get sweaty. Try it for yourself and let me know what you think :)
Question, does using tube amp give the 800s more body to the mids?
I use Sonarworks SoundID to EQ it, if you’re fine doing so you’ll have an amazing time with them.
Between the Dekoni Audio EPZ-HD800 Elite Sheepskin Ear Pads or the Fenestrated ones which ones would you pick? I'm hearing negative reviews about both saying it changes the sound stage to be more narrow? While their official website for the pads states otherwise.
ZMF verite open/ closed review?
What's the opening track? I only know's coat of many colors, but I cannot find the exact version. Any help?
So they let their customers fix it and then sold that fix to their customers for a big premium?
Pulled a real Bethesda there...
Get yourself an ifi Zen Can and turn the bass boost on. It’s phenomenal on this headphone imo
What microphone do you use in this recording? That's clean af...
would these pads and an XLR cable make the sound much more powerful?
At the end of the day it’s all about personal taste. I liked the HD-800 very much and I like the HD-800S even more. I think they are both fantastic in their own way.
I use these headphones with soundblaster x7 for some console gaming. BF4 :) Great audio quality
Did you listen to these via a balanced connection? The difference is substantial, and really the only way these should be used.
man, that Outtro track was nice. what was it?
I know this may be a crazy comparison but how do these compare to the HD660s as thinking of upgrading to the HD800s at a later date
I spy an IFI Pro Stack ha , much agree with your opinion of the 800S , have mine through the IDSD and Procan , having the tube on it is quite pleasing
I bought the dekoni pads for it and I wasn't sure if they helped or hurt the sound. Couldn't make up my mind. May have to try them again. I think you can use oratory1990 eq and get a really amazing sound from these. And when you game leave them stock for all the detail and width.
Its crazy how tube mess with audio your voice is like a whole other person without a tube
I am actually considering getting one of the 4 headphones you mentioned in the video, and I don't know which one to go for... Will have a listening demo soon, but currently I own a HD 58X and I am loving them. Which one did you end up going for?
Hey, is the magni and modi schiit stack enough for these? I’m looking to buy the HD8XX.
Anyone know what song is playing at the beginning? Did a quick search through the comments and didn't see anyone else ask.
How does this compare to the Arya for gaming? And then overall?
Hope you will answer. Do you play in common stereo or dolby ATMOS/ DTSX headphone ?
Joshua, odd question, but what wristwatch are you wearing in this video? Awesome review of the HD 800 S!
Is the driver angled? Can you make a video about headphones with angled drivers? And talk about the soundstage they bring out with hearing things behind you.
Do you think the Schiit Jotunheim would be a good match for these?
2:50 - serious audiophile look
Joshua, so what's the alternative with more base?
That’s a dope hoodie
Nice review. What camera do you use, so sharp!