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Ohh dear god.. why have I never used a chalk bag for toilet paper =o
make it 5.99 and also send it to overlanders. its okay to have overhead
Greatest climbing innovation since the quickdraw
I suggest to replace the rubber band with a shrink hose. Clamp down then shrink. Save several tens of fractions of grams. You can thank me later.
But the biggest advantage is that the rubber will still „stick“ to stuff it is pulled along to.
I also immediately thought that heat shrink tubing would be better. Though shrinking it after would require the band being around something that could withstand the heat.
One could put on the hose clamp, measure, remove the clamp, add heat shrink tubing (covering the screw but leaving the screw head accessible), then shrink the tubing and then reattach the hose clamp.
Not sure how the tubing would react to the tail of the hose clamp being pushed into it, but one could just apply a little less heat to the bit where the tail will go in order to leave room.
Isn't part of the attraction to the system being able to disassemble it and use it without the hose clamp?
If one is going to make a permanent hanger, I think there are lighter materials than a hose clamp. A shrink hose could probably replace both the rubber band and the hose clamp in a permanent hanger.
Instead of a loop, maybe a knot that acts like a stop. When the string is clamped the knot will keep it from pulling out and it doesn’t loop back to be in the way of the lid.
I like that the hose clamp is removable. I like that the rubber band is removable and not brittle like shrink wrap.
This is honestly so awesome. There are so many problems that you can find an easy DIY solution to only to realize that there's no way to get 10cm of heatshrink without buying a whole roll. A little complete pack like this is the perfect middleground.
add 2 inches of heat shrink to hide the knots and now it look like fancy gear ;)
I would add a large, drilled aluminium washer (buy them with holes already drilled for the cord to pass through) at the top. It would reduce the amount of cord converging in the heat. I would run three doubled lengths of cord so it’s more stable, less prone to swinging at a single pivot point. Then knot all the runs of cord as they pass the washer and clamp for redundancy, bit like building an anchor. Fun thought exercise, thanks!
Have you looked at Technora/Kevlar kite string? Braided cordage keeps the fuss-factor low. You wouldn’t need to gut PowerCord
We used it because we had so much broken PowerCord from our accessory cord video. *eco friendly*
@@HowNOT2 Yay for reusing!
Oh yeah that makes too much sense
@@HowNOT2 Now when you release V2 you can claim it went under "intense research and testing" before making the change to difference cordage.
You could make the rubber band wider if you used a bicycle inner tube, you might have to go with a fat bike tube but you would get better coverage of the hose clamp.
i dont even climb bigwalls but still watch the videos and apreaciate the product
So maybe an idea instead of the hoseclamp: Heat/uv resistant reusable zip ties? I use them on my offroad motorcycle trips all the time. Can buy them in bulk and not sharp. Also depending on how hot that spot gets, 1 inch wide velcro strap is pretty great as well!! Such a cool and useful idea!
I make my own fueled lines for Tenkara fishing using Kevlar thread. I twine together three strands, sized a little larger than standard sewing thread, which can hold 20-35lbs (way more than needed for an 8-12' trout). It may be difficult for the material you have as you typically need longer sections to fold back on themselves, but furling would make it significantly more durable by eliminating the single loose strands that will inevitably get snagged and broken. I'd be happy to walk you through my setup!
I love that you break tested it😂
You could also rivet a small D-Ring for picture frames to either side of your cup.
I imagine that would add a fair more weight. I think the whole point is making things as light as possible... But your idea would work really well nonetheless.
@@JJ_ExMachina That would be lighter than an entire hose clamp, though it does require putting a hole into your jetboil.
@@FlightRecorder1 ... Well considering it's going to be filled with boiling water, you would have to make sure to use ones that were strong enough, won't move, and made from a material that wouldn't rust. So considering all factors, I doubt it would be lighter than just a simple hose clamp.
We use big hose clamps in diving in a similar way to attach cylinders. We put tubular webbing over the whole thing as it stops any of the sharp edges catching and won’t move off
If the rubber band breaks, gets lost, whatever, you could always cover that with a few wraps of your choice of tape. It'd cover it and provide you with emergency tape if required
Some improvements you can do (a product designers advice):
If you’re not going to design some lightweight titanium clamp, change the clamps screw with a wing screw for ease of use.
Tread the cord into the clamps holes to prevent them from moving.
Use three lines to the top (not two) for better stability.
I think I’ve seen Jimmy Chin hanging his Jetboil with something similar in one of his clips/movies. Check it out, may be useful…
Keep up the good work
You could just put a knot in the line and clamp slightly above that. Then you don't have the sharp edge issue.
My first impression was "Well cool but why would I buy this instead of just using a hose clamp and paracord core"
Its not like hose clamps are expensive or hard to find.
But then I saw it was $3, so if I ordered something else and had a use for this then why not, props for not charging $10 for something I could make for $5 I think the hoseclamps I use alone are $4-5
If I was making something myself I'd probably use CV boot clamps, just because they're more low profile than the hose clamp, but not everyone has the tools needed for those, and they can't easily be undone and reused.
❤ "It's more than just three things in a zip lock bag"
Stainless steel tie wraps have a much smaller profile than a hose clamps and may suit this application better. I hope this is of interest and helps. Thanks for your great vids.
This kind of setup might work pretty good as a gimballing stove for the boat, too.
My wife and I do one trip a year sleeping on our not set up for camping open bow, I’m totally doing this for coffee this summer.
Small improvement, for future runs, paper envelopes for these little things. I think an A4 or #7 coin would work well for this.
Second this!
You can get 6x9 manila envelopes in bulk for a little more than the ziplock and it gives you a chance to print a product label and it's more eco friendly.
Also, stainless steel zip ties are fractions of the weight and $0.30 each, much more cost effective than a stainless hose clamp
Overall love what your doing with this!
@@tysondunn5183 Looks like we are a small minority.
I'm continually impressed by your community support. Things like this are such a cool way to use your store for!
You may want to look into stainless zip ties. Hose clamps are nice but expensive. If you threw in 3 stainless zip ties I expect it would still be as secure, and less expensive than 1 hose clamp, with no weight penalty. Also are you familiar with "ranger bands"? They're sections of bike or other inner tubes instead of rubber bands. Very eco-friendly.
Personally I like 1/16th aircraft cable and drill a couple of holes. Swaging for that size is pretty simple and a mile of the stuff might run $200 for galvanized. Anyways, food for thought. Can't wait to see how the evolved version turns out.
If you drill an 1/8th in hole in the locking ring overlap, you can stick a cotter pin (on a wire lanyard) in there to keep them together
Wouldn't do this without a conection to the burner good idea @hownot2 should include this
you should throw in a plastic straw, people could cut that down and thread the technora (sorry if that's spelled wrong) through the straw and possibly give it a little better cut protection to the metal clamp. As long as the straw doesn't melt.
Maybe you could sell the powercord sheath too!?
For autoblocks or something!?
From memory they're good for nearly 4kn, so fine for a hitch whilst rappelling.
You're welcome!? 🤗🤗🤗
Mans making that zip lock bag money. Mr Big Time.
That's great Ryan you are so thoughtful
I'm never going to be able to climb, but your videos always keep me watching lol. You are doing great things for the climbing community, don't stop.
Hello. Nothing to do with this video,but I experienced a stuck rope this past week while ice climbing. And while rappelling our rope got stuck. We re climbed the pitch to find out it hitched the last 6” of the rope to the maillot.Found out this happened to a party a week before same anchor. I have also got my rope stuck with 1/2” of rope pinched against rock. I know it’s common. Just thought if you haven’t done a video on it. It would be cool to see you recreate it while filming in slow motion. I can visualize it. Makes a person think more about what side to set up for a pull. Thanks for the great content!
Cool idea! It looks super bomber enough, but why not "thread" the hose clamp through the jet boil handle or upper loop (carabiner loop?)? Perhaps that would give a little extra peace of mind when fully loaded w/water.
Great idea
Slip the clamp through the nylon loop then bury the tightening mechanism within the same loop and tighten. Add a sleeve of vinyl tubing to cover the tightening mechanism and cinch it down. Eliminates the band that may dry out, powder or reduce its stretch with the heat.
Mark Smiley would just ditch the rubber band, and probably the hose clamp, and the cover for the jetboil. just use some scotch tape and tae it right on the outside of the boiling apparatus....then drill extra holes in the stove body to save weight, file the jetboil down to make skinnier to save weight, probably so the same with the steel fuel bottle (or better yet try and find one made with titanium.
2 lengths (or a complete band) of heatshrink tubing over the hoseclamp -under the technora loops, - should help reduce chafing on the "band"..
(single pull strength isn't the major fail mode).
You could get plastic hose clamps we use them on cell towers a lot they are just as light as ss clamp but won’t cut anything
In my experience, it’s the little thing like this. Also makes me wonder sometimes if manufacturers actually use their products. In general, not bashing jet boil specifically. I doubt big walling was their main marketing clientele 👍🏼
This is consistent with the sort of needs divers have. Their solution to "stage rigging" is a tubular nylon sleeve on the hose clamp and then a tube or shrink tube over the mechanism. The hose clamp band would cut the rope/strap so a sleeve of tubular nylon helped solve that problem. I think I'd prefer that over a rubber band in this case as well. Though it probably doubles the production cost
As others sugested I think heat shrink around the nut would add the needed protection and be more polished looking. Also add some heat shrink for connecting the dangly bits onto the rest of the rope.
Alittle heat shrink for the hose clamp would be nice.
Nice dude!
Nice. Maybe use a Voile ski strap strap instead of the hose clamp? No more pesky pokey bits of metal, and also usable for other potential things.
Moto touring, I carry like a dozen pipe clamps for repairing subframe breaks (ktm990) If you splurge on the GOOD electrical tape, a few wraps has a similar effect to your rubber band, only it won’t slide off and chew up your panniers. Moto has serious vibration issues by comparison, slick system!
awesome !
As a side mount diver, no loop is super good enough
They do make kevlar thread. Super strong and super good enough (some are coated in wax which is a fuel but we are talking about the base thread not burning) (McMaster Carr has thread that should be good up to 315°C)
the pot size is gonna be universal for the small canister stoves. so thats clutch for most people!
It's great to see you bringing new items to the market...... but part of me thinks you should aim a little higher 😅 *pun intended 😂 I've never done a big wall climb, but it seems that there's a few more things to consider before trying your first route 🤔 I do like the idea of the hose clamp and string method as it'll pretty much fit EVERY size of cooker on the market 😊👍
This is a great idea, but I think I would use either the thumb screw type hose clamp(for convenience and sharp edge removal possibly removing the need for the rubber band, or the "Double Loop Squeeze Hose Clamp"nice to have built in loop points, if it's strong enough....something someone could test maybe...
I love this concept. I like how you buy it in bulk so we don't have to, lol.
Maybe add a sleeve to the technora sling.. i mean just in the hose clamp, i think over time the loop would wear through..
Make it 5 bucks. Well worth the hassle of going to a hardware store to find the right hose clamp
If you're including 4 feet anyway, I think it would be smart to, instead of looping, just run two strands all the way back up to your hanging point. This way, all your knotwork is away from the hose clamp/lid area...
why not using heat-resistant cable ties (+125°C; briefly up to +145 °C) or Stainless steel cable ties with black polyester coating. Both are lighter, probably cost less and have no sharp edges
I can sea this being pretty popular with survivalists lol😅
I don’t big wall so I don’t know how applicable this is, but a quick thing I thought of watching the video would be having three strings going down to the cup so that it’s less susceptible to tipping.
Ryan what about using 1.5 mm Stainless Steel cable instead of the Technor with looped cable clamp ends attaching to a Stainless Steel solid wire circular wire, with eyelet attachment points, instead of the adjustable Jubilee clip
worm drive hose clamp for sure instead of punched. marine grade 316 bc it is going to get wet. or a reusable zip tie.
I have a small piece of metal wire (like a mm thick) for hanging it, crimped at the end to a loop. Came with the pot. Why not wire?
For a meltproof solution maybe picture hanging wire? Not for weight weenies tho.
Picture wire is full of lead. Not something you'd want near food.
I still haven't found a suitable solution for my phone.
I just want an Otterbox case with a large loop for a carabiner. Is that too much to ask for?
This is how Jetboil started, everyone and I mean everyone and their mom had a Markil Stormy hanging system with a stove like epigas alpine? inside and the Jetboil guys said we can do this better! Maybe one day your product will or overtake them. Need a better name like soup'r good enough - strappapot ermmm maybe you need someone better at this than me
The design is very human !
I dig it, I like the clamp, but any climber will have a set of nuts and a quick draw. One less string to carry.
Clamp 2 nuts, and clip the quick draw, hang. Or use 2 quick draws to center. Might need to bring a penny to for the screw on the clamp.
I kind of think that the rubber band might be super good enough on its own, without the clamp.
kevlar thread? just a thought
Let me work on this for a little bit. I have some ideas.
file the dges, they are stamped from factory.
Can technora support car exhaust systems:)
One way to find out?
In a pinch fencing wire is excellent for many things including holding up exhausts.
Why don't you use the same kind of cord to wrap around it instead of rubberband? Rubber burns and rots.
3d print a tpu hose clamp cover for 3 cents a piece
replace rubber band with electrical tape, it wont wear through or break as easy
Would put a Big Disclaimer if youre sending that to folks. Wouldnt even send instructions or a product name just in case.....
hows the purity? lol
Lol yes :D
click 👎 twice for redundancy 😂😂
👎🏼This twice for redundancy. 🤣🤣
I love you Ryan but is this a joke? I have all of these “components” sitting in my garage and kitchen… 99cent hose clamp from napa and oven proof twine from frying turkeys…