The World's Fastest CPU (Technically...) - Intel i9-14900KS
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Intel is back with the FASTEST CPU the world has every seen... technically. With great power comes great energy usage so Jake is here to find out if this expensive CPU is worth the increased power bill or if Intel's (potentially) last monolithic CPU is more of a flex than something worth daily driving.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 The "WORLD'S FASTEST"(?)
0:34 Unboxing and thoughts on specs/power requirement
3:07 Sponsor - Gamepower
3:32 Benchmarking
5:21 Pricing and LABS test results
8:31 Removing limits and benchmarking again
9:53 Overall thoughts
10:58 Outro 
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At this point, I think Intel just wants to make heaters. Not CPUs, GPUs, just house heaters.
Laptops and Laptop CPUs existed for decades dude, you are a bit late
You think Dyna Glo needs to worry?
You can buy heaters that mine Crypto.
Laptops were the weaker version of their heaters, now they'll perfect it into a box that isn't too big, but still warms up the whole house. 🤣
Lol something being “heater” is slang for awesome, and I agree.
3x the power consumption for -2% the gaming performance of a 7800X3D. What a steal!
DAYUMN😆
It really depends on what the user finds valuable. I returned my 7800X3D combo to microcenter as it was not stable. It kept blue screening. The 14900K uses a lot more juice but it doesn't crash on me.
@@russomd i have a 7900X because i listened to an amd fanboy and was convinced to switch from intel, what a moronic move that was. amd sucks ass still and is absolute garbage with ddr5
@@ralph1660 FAFO
@ralph1660 gets a terrible cpu, blames entire amd for it, their gpus suck but their cpus beat intel in gaming
The screwdriver ad at 2:50 is edited in such a witty way that I can't be mad about it.. Nice job editors!!
yeah genius
I agree
was thinking the same
You know that that is editor initiative and people say 'Yeah, that's cool, brah. Leave it in!'
I don't care about FPS nor GHz.
I'm just here for the Watts.
Texas Instruments TI-83 Plus might serve you well.
I’m here for the 1 kilowatt.
If watts are the concern like me then get a minisforum bd790i. It has 16core ryzen 9 laptop cpu with max boost can only consume 85w(mb,ram,cpu,ssd)
Without gpu, with any gpu increase the power draw from the mb to be 160w (75w solely for gpu from mb).
Oooh 69
@@evilsam4 no one will like now
Intel is going through their AMD FX phase. I hope they get into a new Ryzen phase soon
And I hope that AMD’s follow to Ryzen is a whole new architecture that beats the crap of the Ryzen phase. Edit: and then Intel does the same.
HAhahAHa.... Which century will that happen?
So glad people are finally pushing for competition rather than being fan boys..
nah FX was way worse. this is more than decadence rust rather than f*king up badly
no, they are going through their P4 era, buuuuut lets be honest here a well tuned intel even an 12gen i7 with fast ram will be up there with am5, even 7800x3d with 6000c30 sticks. But for those that dont wanna tune, amd 7800x3d is king.
I got the 7800 X3D right when it was released because it looked like it'd stay near the top of the charts for a while without needing a dedicated nuclear power plant and that was spot on. It was even worth the stress with the early firmware issues that burned some sockets. Now it's like every new CPU review is basically an ad for the 7800 X3D.
It's hilarious that all the 7800x3d needs for cooling is a damn AMD stock cooler and it won't throttle, not even in cinebench.
@@sergioav7278 But then it is way slower than a 14900K(S). So yeah buying slow things need not much investment.
Can confirm. My rig has a 7800x3d and that thing is crazy fast. Games load like instantly.
@@idkwhattohaveasausername5828your CPU doesn't really have any relevancy to how fast your games load lol
@@poweruwa Well it kinda does if his old rig had like an i3 from well over a decade ago that was pegging 100% utilization when just loading the desktop.
It's just a matter of perspective.
6:08 - You brush past that graph mighty fast but the 7800X3D was the fastest here in-case anyone blinked
I want to see a graph that show cost per fps and fps per watt is would be 😮.
i noticed that, i love my 7800X3D, it has a 120w TDP but mine never even touches 90w. crazy how efficient this chip is WHILE being an absolute beast in games.
Not in 1% lows, but overall average yeah, and just a stonking great performer anyway. And that it pulls about the same power under all core load as the 14900KS pulls under single threaded is NUTS.
Intel copium: Ah, but if you look at the 1% low score, you'll see that the i9-14900KS beats the 7800X3D by 1 fps, and by a whole FOUR FPS with power limits disabled! Clearly the 14900KS is the superior gaming CPU.
@@jubuttibthat's with slow ram for an intel CPU as well so that ain't too bad xd
Can't wait for intel i9 169000ks that you will overclock it to 6.9 ghz that will be nice video
That's going to be a core ultra 9 390KS I think 🤔 probably. Who knows what the naming scheme of Intel will turn into.
At 800W for 10 seconds.
*nice*
@@JorgenKremer Core Ultra 9 16900KS
I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the marketing meetings. "Ok, we're losing to AMD because our last launch of an expensive and impractically hot CPU nobody asked for isn't in line with consumer trends. How do we win them back?" "Oh I know, let's make another one of those, but make it hotter and more expensive!"
Ladder upselling is a cheap and effective way to get extra profits. Consumer FOMO is a real thing.
nah I’m faster
That's what she said 😏🤣
@@dftfiredamn I came to say exactly this 👆
hell yeah
I'm so sorry. Have you tried tablets?
Nah I’d win
another refresh of a refresh of a refresh of a refresh
Oh it's overrated, but for someone like myself who previously had an 11700KF, there wasn't a huge reason not to get one. The price difference between the K and KS was marginal. I think if someone already has a 13xxx then there's not much point in jumping to this chip, ESPECIALLY since it appears the 14xxx's are a bit dodgy. It made sense for me. I did have to adjust my BIOS to get it going smoothly though.
Doesn't matter, it is beating AMD 7950X and hits a nice 6.2ghz. Who cares about what technology is behind it. Making AMD even look bad as with better technology they can't even beat Intel on worse technology. Who is doing something really wrong then, AMD for sure.
I lost count of haswell +'s.
@@jankees4037You sound mad
@@jankees4037 i really cant tell if youre serious tho i really hope youre not
14900KS: _Intel regretting not investing in UV lithography_
Yea, but what is the loss of a few billions.
They them are intel 💅
@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 Yeah, who needs to be careful with money when an entire government will just sponsor every stupid financial decision?
@@theyeetus1428 yep!
But only if you're a big business, dedicated to ruin competition, and patent general ideas.. which the government or whichever organisation gives it out will help you acquire to monopolise entire business sectors and eliminate affordable shiiite for consumers.
Otherwise, just start a business, you'll be crushed by competition!
What do you mean ?, they already use DUV
EUV... UV was used for ages
Lol, 320w is absolutely insane for a desktop cpu
400W, the 14900KS consumes 400W. The one that consumes 320+W is the 14900K
My cpu, it's gonna be a nice warm winter
Summer is coming soon >:D
@@Tunnelsnakes And my computer is in a small bedroom. Literally unusable for me. This room already gets 3-5 degrees warmer than the rest of the house while gaming. I can't use a cpu that is half of a space heater.
@@sphygobuy a thunderbolt dock and move it to another room
@@sphygo well i have a haf 700 evo with 16 fans and a 420 aio, heat isn't really a problem, i run my 14900ks with a -0.15v undervolt
@@fabianmennel4478 thats not how that works ...
Yeesh, single threaded it's pulling more power than a 7800X3D at full draw? That's pretty bonkers. =/
I mean it's not a direct comparison, but just the fact that it's possible is astonishing to me.
My phone is weirdly warm while watching this video. That's just how hot this CPU runs I guess 🤣
Should've mentioned the massive recalls/refunds that this line of CPU's has been having lately.
I'm having my 14900K swapped (returned and given a new one) in a couple weeks, and the Internet is filled with other such cases where people had to swap 3-4x until they got "a good one" that wouldn't deteriorate over time.
This was very briefly talked over on TechLinked somewhat recently.
nice 1 bro hope everybody understand that wave of RMA will coming
Intel still blaming mobo, and mobo still blaming intel lol
maybe most of this channel viewer not up to date with intel recent instability issue
skill issue
As we know that a watt is a unit of power. Intel just makes more powerful cpus year after year.
When CPU wasting more watts than there are mms in aio radiator, you know there is something wrong.
AMD: Thread Ripper!
Intel: Uh, that's a sewing machine feature, right?
Like Tesla, we vacuum the house with that brand.
intel supporting the electric utility suppliers since 1968 🤣
Funny how a CPU half the price from AMD beat it by a few fps consistently (in games)
It’s almost as if different products have different use cases.
Simple minded nonsense.
its a CPU for extreme overclocking, people do a hell of a lot more than just game on PCs.
@@OneBiOzZ Extreme overclocking? Its sitting at 100 celcius idle with a monster water cooling rig...
@@solenoidnull9542 But extreme overclocking using liquid nitrogen it would still run at sub zero. Also that was not a monster water cooling rig it was just an AIO with a 360 radiator.
@@OneBiOzZ people who want to do "a hell of a lot more than just game on PCs" probably won't like the added costs of how power-hungry this card is for the boost in performance.
Have my 7800x3d tuned for efficiency with pbo2. Only pulling 45-55w under gaming loads and about 75w on all core
It's missing the "*" stating that gets returned for failure in mere gaming loads.
imagine using a motherboard power limit/voltage issue to make intel look bad. ppl did the same shit when x3d was exploding.
@@TheBURBAN111 Shrug, even before that thing blew up online, I knew many people who were getting build and compile errors on their 13th and 14th gen CPUs when they hit high temps, on many different brands and classes of motherboards, and with more than decent cooling solutions. And they weren't always even the highest end SKUs doing that. Definitely felt like Intel was just flying slightly too close to the sun.
@@TheBURBAN111 Power limit? This is not a power limit issue (unless you mean "the CPU can so much power it kills itself"). X3D wasn't a power limit issue either. It was shorting between substrate layers.
@@jubuttib Other than a few early bios issues mines been fine even with an oc... and again its due to AUTO OC or MCE blasting an all core oc with insane voltages... and then the motherboard maxing out power limits and current/cache limit by default... ive noticed auto voltages of around 1.43v+ on 13th gen when mce or enhanced turbo is on... its not just a power limit issue... with enhanced turbo off and a manual all core OC auto vcore is a lot better but i still use a manual vcore with a different llc level than auto as i can get the voltage and temps as low as possible and keep full stability and better than stock performance if motherboards came with limits forced then a lot of this degradation and instability wouldn't be happening its basically a bad OC with insane vcore.
@@samiraperi467 basically boards running the 14900ks at 1.5v on stock.
i wouldnt even recommend if not just gaming. 7800x3d you dont need a 360 aio, intel is crazy
Hell you can air cool a 7800x3d. Air cooling a 14900ks is just asking for thermal throttling.
@@theunknown7683 not only can you air cool it, you can put a 30$ cooler on it and it will stay inaudible. The one I installed consumed 40-50W in gaming and 80W max...
the x3d is very sensitive to heat it hit 80 or 89 degree at 80W , while the ks hits 89 degree at 320W bro there is a defirance.
@@user-lq4ni6pr5l no its not I have a 5800X3d and use fan cooling lol stay away from Garbage intel products
@@clark85 5800x3d and 7800x3d are both fantastic at gaming realy realy good, but there not good at productivity (video edting , multitasking , emulation) that is why amd created 7950x3d so people can game and do productivity work but that failed too becuase of playing games on the wrong ccd (non x3d cores), if i was only gaming i would buy 7800x3d but i do more so intel offers both gaming and productivity for now. hope i helped. 🙂
4:35 87w single-core power draw. Which was the full multicore TDP of the entire CPU in my previous PC (4790k).
A perfect ad for a 7800X3D.
nah we need 480mm coolers now 360mm ain't cutting it
Can confirm it makes no difference
The idea is that the CPU is shitty hot.
This is like advertising a car that does 0-100mph in 2 seconds and a max speed of 300 mph, and not mentioning it gets 0.1 miles to the gallon.
They literally mention it multiple times, and even Intel mention how much power it draws..
Your listening comprehension seems to be lacking
No one buying high end cars care about gas mileage.
At least try to use common sense and realize there’s different mindsets to different classes of purchases.
@@brandonhoover2120they care at a certain point. If they have to refill every time they get down the road, they would care
@@JBrinx18 They do not lmfao
Stop trying to argue things you don’t understand.
No one spending 300 grand on a Lamborghini is worried about the gas mileage.
A Bugatti owner doesn’t care.
Modified 1,200hp track cars don’t care.
This isn’t a Prius or Camry shopper.
80w singelcore is crazy tho. my 7800x3d pulls 87 with all cores at 100%. thats ALL CORES vs A SINGLE CORE
So glad i just stayed on AM4 and upgraded to a 5800X3D
The 5800X3D is likely to be useful for at least the next 5 years, possibly 10. It's like how Skylakes are still okay-ish now.
Ok buddy good for you. This is an enthusiast chip.
FYI, the T(Junction) of this CPU is 100°C
It actually goes over that in this video, so it is 100% thermal throttling here
of course it would. unless you can get some subambient cooling on top of it, or direct die cool it, that IHS is just choking the chip.
"Weren't we supposed to be saving the planet or something?" hahahahaha gold
Nice video idea, delid and chill this monster. How much power can you put through the die?
So this is the last Monolithic Intel form, the Final Form of the Monolithic die from Intel, The Idea seems to sell the Ultimate form of the Monolithic CPU ever when everything maxed out
Press F to respect, we shall never see something like this again, ever, the Monolithic Era is over
This CPU needs a chiller.... and thats a good video to do ;)
My guy just gave idea to Alex
I bet we'll see this CPU next time when he's de-liding it
10:00 even it is used to evaporate water easily😂😂..Water Colling gone nuts😂
8:36
I remembered the FX9590 too! People thought it was insane having a CPU with a 220W TDP that came with a **gasp** 120mm AIO!!
Ok, it was hot garbage, but still, funny how perception changed. Back then a 200W+ CPU was just as insane as, say, a $1000+ GPU. "Who would ever buy that?" We thought.
I wonder how effective undervolting would be to help tame the power draw/heat on that CPU.
I feel like it would benefit from it. Given that it is thermal throttling.
When intel was caught themselves using a makeshift chiller, we all knew where we heading. Hope the future isn't just throw more power at it
If you want to have a chance of keeping the temps under control, you should delid it and go for direct die cooling, EKWB even supports it by default now.
How the tables have tabled
How the turns tabled
how the turns have turned
The only reason I watched fully is to see if Jake can make nothing interesting and he so did! Love you man, keep up the good work!
You should make a video focusing on performance compared to wattage used. For the whole pc.
I like my next gaming pc to draw as little power as possible and be good at gaming at the same time.
easy choose AMD in this case 7800x3d or 5800x3d.
i call this bulls*it, its not fastest, but highest clocking one "stock/oem" that can be bought
were you even listening? thats exactly what they said
you don't need to only fry on it you can now boil water on it
The best high end cpu for Gmaing+Productivity is 7950x3d
It provides a huge performance while being very easy to cool (it does not consume a lot of power)
Tell me you don't actually own a 7950x3d without saying it, lol.
I love the end-gag at 1:00. Hilarious.
For my 13900k and 14900k I have done the following: MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.5 GHz and E-core boost to 4.3GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC value. I have set voltage offset at a modest -0.010v. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95, CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Very happy and benchmarks are very close to where they were before taming these beasts.
Update: I have now undervolted to -0.015v and set the Core limit to 300 Amps.
At this point just buy a R7 x3d bro
Yeah, there should be an efficiency rating (like with the bulbs) on the CPUs as well.
Would be nice if they started working on lowering wattage use instead of adding on an extra few 100mhz speed increases.
Pat: Make it faster!
Engineer: But sir, it's gonna draw over 300 Watts!
Pat: FASTERR!!!
You should do the test with the Aio fans forced at max speed
I'd like to see what the extreme would look like for a daily driver situation. I'd be referring to delidding and maybe using a kryosheet with direct die cooling and a 360 RAD AIO. That's a bit of a stretch, but I'm personally more daunted by custom watercooling vs delidding a CPU.
Would be interesting to see how a 14900ks vs a 7800x3d would look with extreme daily driver type setups, like both delidded.
Dang the last time I built and intel system was during the 4th gen haswell/skull canyon era, come to thinks about it the 14900KS single core wattage is the same as the 4790k total package wattage!
would be interesting to see how the cpu would preform on an application that is cpu dependant like rpcs3
I wonder what a water block that adapts to an air cooler still on the cpu, in addition to the radiator would look like
Hey I don't mean to be a pain but could you help me decide on which Monitor to go with between: AOC Agon PRO AG276QZD 27" OLED Tournament Gaming Monitor and ASUS ROG Swift 27”1440P OLED DSC Gaming Monitor?
While I like the idea of the efficiency cores that intel is putting into CPUs. It's really sad none of their chips are actually that efficient. Even in laptops you're usually getting better battery life and more power with AMD. Hopefully Intel can actually innovate again and make some more worthwhile chips.
Doesn't the KS series cpus have an all core boost to max frequency?
You know, why don't they put copper IHSes on high end high power parts? Might as well get as much thermal conductivity as you can for something like this, right?
Which software are you using to see clockspeed, power consumption etc..
6.2GHZ HIGHEST FREQUENCY EVER!*
*Single core, for 14 seconds. Results my vary.
tbh id rather just get a 6.0 all core haha which is only doable with a custom loop and delidding usually.
3:23 With Intel CPU you'll always be within the heat of the game.
8:35 bruh my previous PC had an FX-9590 and after 10 years i upgraded to the KS 💀 wasn’t expecting to get roasted twice in one video
My laptop is i9 and 3070 and the fans run constantly. I repasted and cleaned the fans and vents and that makes no difference so I'm considering the heat changing pads from LTT store or I might liquid metal it to see if that makes a difference. My laptop doesn't run crazy hot, in the low 90s for the CPU when I'm playing Forbidden West but I'd still like to get the heat down just a bit!!
This is like when amplifier companies quote a "max" power where it can do 200 RMS but like 600 watts for 1/1000th of a second sometimes maybe if the stars are aligned.
I wonder if when Jake shaves will Linus's beard reappear
In my opinion, among all the LTT members, Jake is the best one who could truly replace Linus
Isn't core effective clock the important one? What's the different to default core clocks?
5:43 wow, I bought a Ryzen 9 7950x in 2022 and it was cheaper than that. Was 750 CAD around Black Friday.
A true engineering marvel, that it can pull so much more power for little performance increase.
Review the Tremec TR6060 next
I bought one since I was on an 11700KF. The official spec I can find says ICCMax is 307A and PL1/PL2 is 253 Watts. I can't find any Intel specific source on the extreme power profile of 400A and 320 Watts, but I've played with my powers a bit. In practice, 307A 253 Watts is just fine and under normal circumstances. Benchmarks are where things diverge quite a bit. If you can run this thing stable, it will eat 300, 400, 500 watts... it's kind of bananas. But so far I can't see a big advantage to pushing it that far in daily use. I'm keeping mine at 307A 253 watts for now just to keep it running a little cooler, and unfortunately my setup's DDR5 XMP isn't very stable with higher powers to the CPU. So to put it another way, if I let this thing run unleashed my build can do a Passmark CPU score of around 67,000, if I reign it in, it is around 61,000. It's definitely an Intel flex to overclockers and bragging rights and not much else. To people who want to USE it, it's still just a K.
i have a Q borther. is 360mm aio enough for 14900ks under intel specs = 400A / 320W limmit
in heavy load and gaming.
@@user-lq4ni6pr5l I'm not the best to ask but I'm not seeing many choices. There's apparently one by Lian Li and one from Enermax that can handle 300+ watts. Pushing a 14900KS is probably best done with a 420mm or custom loop. I'm not seeing much that can touch the kind of heat these things are capable of generating.
it's crazy to think about that this thing eats more power than my CPU and GPU combined 😅
Technically accurate is the best kind of accurate
IMO the KS chips are meant for overclocking, not stock usage. So if you're gonna use it at stock and with DDR5 6000, yeah it's garbage value. But if you're pushing it to the max with 6GHz+ allcore locked and DDR5-8000+ like it's meant to be then the gap between the K and KS will be larger (considering max OC numbers for both) as the binned silicon is actually being used to it's fullest.
Agreed. And actually tuning the voltage just like anyone who is interested in this CPU will do. The stock drop in settings from the motherboards are hot garbage. I can overclock while undervolting because it's so far off from what's necessary.
I will buy a 14900k processor - liquid cooling asus rog ryujin III and corsair icue h150i LCD latest version. what is your recommendation?
€1/5h gaming.
Intel: We have the biggest balls
AMD: yeah, but no sperms!
some would argue that is an advantage :D
@@marsovac Hmm, being super macho and depopulating the earth?🤔🤨
@@marsovac Just like it can be used a s a space heater.
Cudos to Jake for just being down to Earth honest! 👏👍
I literally just got the 14900K for $24 from work and I'm honestly gonna send it back to upgrade it to the KS. I havent even opened it yet lol.
Honestly given that even triple A games still don't multithread very well if at all, singcle core performance is still the biggest bottleneck in cases where your not trying to to run on an extreme monitor (4k 60+ hz, ray tracing etc..)
This video is brought to you by AMD.
Huh, they still have the core i naming schemes in this processor...
Is intel's new naming scheme just not apply for all of their current processors or what?
This is still the 14th gen. The new branding will only apply to future generations.
The new naming only started with the release of Meteor lake laptop chips. It hasn't come on desktop it. It will most probably come to desktops with Arrow Lake.
@@TuxikCE ah i see, i understand now
Yeah i knew the laptops already had the naming scheme but was confused about the PC part not getting it yet.
Thanks for the explanation!
1:01 that actually got me😭
Live in Poland, electricity costs a lot and it's about to get 40% higher, my 7950x3d was a smart choice
that CPU dwarfs the total power draw of my 1080ti ftw3.....insane
And this video comes out two days before Earth day… comments were on point for sure .
For that much extra money they could have at least added a copper IHS or something like that...
The IHS already is out of copper.
What do you think the IHS is made of? Hint: Nickelplated copper.
Those watts and heat are insane for what is literally no performance gain
Jake dammit, we’ve been over this. Be more excited about this. There’s only one occasion per year after all!
With great CPU power comes lower heating costs (during northern winters at least) 😅
Otherwise raised HVAC operation bills 🙈
9:15 I can't believe you said that, "copper IHS"! What do you think the Intel one is made of aluminum?
Those copper IHSs you can buy online are a SCAM. You replace the copper Intel with another copper one, without any anti-corrosion coating.
The rest of the material is quite nice👍🙂
Intel out here selling $700 nuclear heaters
i live in an apartment where power is a flat rate included into the rent price (and no matter how much of it i use - i pay the same amount of money) and i still wouldn't get 14900K or 14900KS for either my professional (think: a lot of large project compilation and programming work) or gaming workloads. 7950X does the same thing but at lower power and easier to cool, and 7800X3D would be better for the games I play. Not to mention that AM5 platform will see 1-2 more generations of CPUs, while Intel's 14 gen is the last one of the current socket.
Wish they would have graphed how many extra watts/extra % speed
The reason I prefer (and bought) the 7950x3d, is because of its power usage. The 14900ks consumes way too much power with not enough performance gain compared to the 7950x3d.
Copper IHS doesn’t make sense because the Intel IHS is nickel plated copper right?
they don't know that , this is funny and i don't care channel.