This was on live on a Wednesday night during the early summer. Remember it well, great game to watch. Greenwood’s England were one of the best in Europe at that stage-as were Austria, fresh from a great WC in Argentina the year before
@@johnmorell7020 England WERE one of the best teams in Europe over that late 1977 to 1980 period. The damage was Revie’s fault. Greenwood got plenty out of that team. Why do people in England expect trophies? A lot of good teams were around then without winning anything(Poland 74, 82; Belgium 80; Yugoslavia and Holland 70s).1978 and 79 was a purple patch for England, not a purple haze. I remember them being distinctly unplayable and doing things like winning away in Bulgaria for their Euro 80 group, something no other team could think of doing. They failed in Italy, hampered by a tough group and didn’t recover from a draw disrupted by their own thuggish fans. They were attractive to watch then too, which I would grudgingly have to admit not being a fan of theirs.
Good game. In the thousands of games I've watched, it's the first time I've ever heard a player (who played in the same game) work as co-commentator - Peter Shilton in the second half.
Like many people commenting on this thread, I have distinct memories of this great football match. It was played at a great pace from the kick-off, both teams seeming to have little regard for defence. Austria, in particular, were superb going forward and thoroughly deserved the win.
They only qualified from their 1st round group in '78 as it was very poor and the one really good team they played in the finals - Holland, gave them a 5-1 pasting.
@@Ruda-n4h uhm harsh. They beat Spain , Sweden & West Germany, topped their group above Brazil and lost only 1-0 to Italy & Brazil. Not too shabby, England didn’t even qualify for the tournament.
I try to be objective. They were all poor sides and the Italians were physically knackered by the time they played them. I'm not comparing Austria with England who although by the time the World Cup came around had improved a lot under Ron Greenwood, were no world beaters. They probably would have got as far as Austria had they qualified as the field in 1978 was pretty average and of course Austria beat them here a year later.
To think at the time Liverpool, Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa rules Europe. In yet the same old problem. Our national team was shit. Players who were brilliant for their club teams simply froze when playing for England. Let’s be honest we’re shit at national level. We should compete with Germany at national level, however, we don’t. Germany play, as do the Italians with a certain maturity that we don’t posses. England haven’t had a truly world class national team since 1970. 1990 in Italy it came together for a golden fortnight and then again in 1996 in the European championship. However, not since 1970 have we stood shoulder to shoulder with Brazil. This England performance against Austria sums it all up. Remember watching it as a kid. Thought we’d beat Austria, because we’re England. Here lies the problem. The rest of the world caught up and passed us a long time ago.
To compare what was going on here with what happens now is ridiculous. In those days, the main problems with England were a). an obsession with 4 - 4 - 2, which was predictable and opponents knew just how to cope with it and b). in the days before foreign players came into the English leagues and helped improve technical ability and slowed the game down, it was all a bit frantic. The defending in this game was a disaster, but fortunately, that old squared up defence is consigned to history.
I'm viewing all these England games from the 70s, you've got a point: terrific players, many teams dominating over european football, National team struggling to qualify for EC and WC tournaments. Anyway, looking at these games I realized how good Keegan and Brooking were. Certainly among the top world players of that period.
Clemence was a very good keeper but Shilton lost his form in 1974 and when Revie took over he preferred Ray and so began his long run until 1978 when Shilton's form with Forest brought him back under Ron Greenwood but they both continued to alternate until 1982.
Maybe I'm biased but laurie cunningham bryan robson and cyrille regis were the most exciting players in england at the time west brom were 3rd in the league. But were overlooked. if only ths midfield had got Coppell Robson Hoddle and Cunningham.
@@philh8288 agree..Statham that is a name from the past..!...agree with that selection, Alvin Martin was top draw..(how did bobby robson drop him for terry fenwick against argentina in '86' is a first class mystery?!!!
Great quality footage.
Love these back in the day games,just to see the different style nets.
This was on live on a Wednesday night during the early summer. Remember it well, great game to watch. Greenwood’s England were one of the best in Europe at that stage-as were Austria, fresh from a great WC in Argentina the year before
The notion that England was one of the best teams in Europe under Ron Greenwood, under whom we won nothing, sounds like a purple haze to me, mate.
@@johnmorell7020 England WERE one of the best teams in Europe over that late 1977 to 1980 period. The damage was Revie’s fault. Greenwood got plenty out of that team. Why do people in England expect trophies? A lot of good teams were around then without winning anything(Poland 74, 82; Belgium 80; Yugoslavia and Holland 70s).1978 and 79 was a purple patch for England, not a purple haze. I remember them being distinctly unplayable and doing things like winning away in Bulgaria for their Euro 80 group, something no other team could think of doing. They failed in Italy, hampered by a tough group and didn’t recover from a draw disrupted by their own thuggish fans. They were attractive to watch then too, which I would grudgingly have to admit not being a fan of theirs.
Good game. In the thousands of games I've watched, it's the first time I've ever heard a player (who played in the same game) work as co-commentator - Peter Shilton in the second half.
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I had that red England shirt in junior school(I was 8)happy days!
Blimey this makes me feel old, I remember watching this I was 13yo
Remember watching this match as a 10 year old back in 1979.
Kevin Keegan one of England's best ever
Kurt Welzl...I think he was playing with Az67 at that point, scoring tons of goals in the Eredivisie. Also, Bruno Pezzey RIP
Yes he was. He also had an unsuccessful stint in Valencia when the Spaniards changed Bonhof and Kempes for him and Frank Arnessen.
Shilton replaced and... joining the commentator. Quite amazing.
Like many people commenting on this thread, I have distinct memories of this great football match. It was played at a great pace from the kick-off, both teams seeming to have little regard for defence. Austria, in particular, were superb going forward and thoroughly deserved the win.
Herbert Prohaska was a terrific midfielder
Very overrated despite his obvious skills, as a lot of players often are.
@@Ruda-n4h No. Schneckerl was one of the best midfielder at this time.
@@markuszoernig8663 Never showed anything to me.
Trevor Francis was a class act.
I remember watching this game during England's barren years and thinking it was a good result. And that was Austria without Shachner and Krankl
Great footage. Chic.
Austria looked pretty good. On the night, the better team.
Austria was one of the best team in the world 70-80 but they just had many internal problems not to forget Hungary and US too.
Wow...what a game...
That Austrian team that played was the same team that reached the 2nd round of the 1978 World Cup
They only qualified from their 1st round group in '78 as it was very poor and the one really good team they played in the finals - Holland, gave them a 5-1 pasting.
@@Ruda-n4h uhm harsh. They beat Spain , Sweden & West Germany, topped their group above Brazil and lost only 1-0 to Italy & Brazil. Not too shabby, England didn’t even qualify for the tournament.
I try to be objective. They were all poor sides and the Italians were physically knackered by the time they played them. I'm not comparing Austria with England who although by the time the World Cup came around had improved a lot under Ron Greenwood, were no world beaters. They probably would have got as far as Austria had they qualified as the field in 1978 was pretty average and of course Austria beat them here a year later.
@@Ruda-n4h I think you are a little Austria-hater
I remember this match well, Austria had a good team them.
We never had the players
To think at the time Liverpool, Nottingham Forest and Aston Villa rules Europe. In yet the same old problem. Our national team was shit. Players who were brilliant for their club teams simply froze when playing for England. Let’s be honest we’re shit at national level. We should compete with Germany at national level, however, we don’t. Germany play, as do the Italians with a certain maturity that we don’t posses. England haven’t had a truly world class national team since 1970. 1990 in Italy it came together for a golden fortnight and then again in 1996 in the European championship. However, not since 1970 have we stood shoulder to shoulder with Brazil. This England performance against Austria sums it all up. Remember watching it as a kid. Thought we’d beat Austria, because we’re England. Here lies the problem. The rest of the world caught up and passed us a long time ago.
Vantheman12 Welshman
England 1990 was world class, 96 also world class.
But Germany won the penalties and took the cups....
shut up [ dont use word shit about england it refelcts on you
how is losing 4 3 away shit [ your afool, alas so many are [ no loyalty no fibre[ no patriotism, please dont comment on my great country
To compare what was going on here with what happens now is ridiculous. In those days, the main problems with England were a). an obsession with 4 - 4 - 2, which was predictable and opponents knew just how to cope with it and b). in the days before foreign players came into the English leagues and helped improve technical ability and slowed the game down, it was all a bit frantic. The defending in this game was a disaster, but fortunately, that old squared up defence is consigned to history.
I'm viewing all these England games from the 70s, you've got a point: terrific players, many teams dominating over european football, National team struggling to qualify for EC and WC tournaments. Anyway, looking at these games I realized how good Keegan and Brooking were. Certainly among the top world players of that period.
Forgot Ray Wilkins ex Fulham manager as well .
Ron greenwood ,Bobby Robson , Kevin Keenan , Roy hodgson all have played or managed Fulham , is there any other club who has had this .
Roy was the best how i long for tuose days of turning up confident.
There are a LOT of players that have Played 8against Fulham only jokin mate But were is Roy Hodgson ?
Works experience on the camera
Puma Jersey... Very rare now
How Rare - a long sleeve England Home or Away kit , I never seen us were them after there introduction in 74
No krankl no shackner as well
How did Clemence win so many caps when we had Shilton? I just dont get it watching all these old clips
As far as I can remember, a good few games Shilton would play the first half and Clemence the second.
Clemence was a very good keeper but Shilton lost his form in 1974 and when Revie took over he preferred Ray and so began his long run until 1978 when Shilton's form with Forest brought him back under Ron Greenwood but they both continued to alternate until 1982.
@@Ruda-n4h Ray Clemence was very good too. I do not think it made too much difference which of them were in goal really, as both were competent.
Friendly?
yea
zobielamouche1 end of season European tour
Was at the game Kings Lynn always had a good firm following England back then as did Nuneaton and Exeter
Yeah but on the Home + Away basis that's erm England 10 Austria 4 Great Vid Cheers
Maybe I'm biased but laurie cunningham bryan robson and cyrille regis were the most exciting players in england at the time west brom were 3rd in the league. But were overlooked. if only ths midfield had got Coppell Robson Hoddle and Cunningham.
you would need Brian Clough as manager for that my friend..The Coppell-Cunningham combo is mouthwatering, that midfield is mouthwatering
Possibly Viv Anderson instead of Phil Neal at the back
Any suggestions to improve the backline in this period!!, I was no fan of neal or phil thompson!
@@kailashpatel1706 Alvin Martin Terry butcher Viv Anderson and Derek Statham
@@philh8288 agree..Statham that is a name from the past..!...agree with that selection, Alvin Martin was top draw..(how did bobby robson drop him for terry fenwick against argentina in '86' is a first class mystery?!!!
No krankl or schachner
Krankl was uncomfortable at this time. Schachner the 3rd striker behind Welzl and Kreuz.
@@markuszoernig8663 Schachner wurde in der 2. Hälfte für Jurtin eingewechselt. Krankl, war der nicht durch das EC-Finale mit Barca verhindert?
Shite floodlights.