Thank you for not sugar coating this review! It's hard to find reviews that are honest and actually cover the real consumer issues/drawbacks to these products.
No Matter, no Thread, no adaptive lighting, and $250 for 3 panels? No way, I don't mine expensive and high quality products. I do mind lazy and overpriced products.
Bro, what do you expect, it’s Nanoleaf. The only good thing they offer are their lightbulbs. The rest is way overpriced and seems to be made exclusively for influencers and suckers 😂
And over 2 W in standby - I‘m not sure this is per panel - if so, almost 7W standby in the starter set with 3 panels For 250 bucks the technology should be state of the art
I read it takes around 2 minutes to boot up and connect to WIFI after a power loss. Better hope no one accidently flips the switch. They couldn't put better hardware in a $250 system?
Hi readers, and Shane. We just installed the skylight and loving it. We just hired a handyman who did a good job. And this is how I solved the switch issue. All across the house I replaced the regular (dumb) switches by connecting the 2 wires (so always on) in the switch box. Then I covered the switch box holes with the Aqara H1 switches, that screws in perfectly closing the holes, and is the same dimension as the switches. Then i control the Aqara switches over homekit.
@@pghatak yes but the Nanoleaf Skylight does not use Matter. They are connecting via HomeKit integration and should have been able to add adaptive lighting.
It’s beyond me why manufacturers don’t reach out to people like you, Shane, before running a full production. The issues you bring up are obvious to people like us, Nanoleaf could’ve hit a home run with this.
PSA: for any watchers also installing in Europe. Our kits apparently don’t have the mounting bracket and wing nuts!! I was going crazy and even ordered a second one just in case but nope also didn’t have it. Gonna have to return it now 😅 I guess Nanoleaf didn’t feel the need to include this since, you know, our ceilings are made out of concrete 😂 thanks for your detailed install videos Shane!
I love Nanoleaf's stuff, it's seriously cool! But ngl (not gonna lie), my Nanoleaf bulbs have been acting funky lately. I gotta reset them like, once or twice a week, and I keep thinking it's my Wi-Fi, but I'm starting to doubt it. For the price tag, you shouldn't have to deal with this much trouble. Hopefully Nanoleaf can fix this with an app update or something, or maybe give us some better troubleshooting tips! Thank you for sharing and being so cool!
Similar problem for me with the bulbs. We have 6 bulbs and 4 of them periodically say I need to connect them. When I try, it says you did this in another app so go there. So I go to Home and re-scan the code. It’s like our setup just forgets these bulbs after a couple weeks.
Very slick looking product Shane. I kinda dig the Live Premier video release. I wish these lights were getting better reviews. Seems, from The RUclipss, that Skylights may have been released before they were fully finished. Thanks for the video!
Hope you have a great day too@@ShaneCreates - Hopefully someone from #Nanoleaf is paying attention to the reviews...along with the Comments Sections. My ideal installation would involve like 19 total panels - so I would order the 12-pack AND the 9-pack (and I would used the leftover panels for a closet). While pretty much every reviewer makes several comments about the cost of the product...it was not all that shocking to me when I saw the price. BUT...I would expect the product to work exceptionally well at this price point. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the case. It would be nice (as I mentioned in the Live Premier Chat) if @Nanoleaf would offer a 'meaningful' Promo Code, at least to Member/Subscribers of Sponsored Reviewer Channels. I'm unsure of how to effectively tag them in RUclips Comments...but a good Promo Code would absolutely help offset some of the hassles/limitations that are being reported. Just my opinion.
They are hard as heck to align up correctly. Even straight line is a factor if the room is small. The more panels you add the more the alignment issue increases. Also there is a pronounced shadow in the center of the panels.
These lights are really cool. Nanoleaf makes some great products but they always have issues. Wasnt surprised to hear you already had trouble with them not connecting. The price seems too high and to know they won’t work flawless makes me hold off. I have a few sets of different shapes and lines and have had issues with them all. My ocd wouldn’t handle those spaces in your ceiling line up for the square. Will wait for Govee to make a similar product.
Looks awesome Shane!! Question for you. Where is that power setting to select for it to come on at the last setting used? I can’t find anything like that. I bought the 4D for my new tv and when I turn it on it’s always solid white. I want it to come on with the same mirroring settings each time but I have to go into the nanoleaf app to change it. It’s getting annoying.
What's the lowest brightness looks like. I maybe dumb for doing this, but I feel like covering my whole ceiling with this. So I can have that kind of Unbox Therapy Studio Lighting in my room. But my concern is turning all of em all at once might be too blinding. What do you think?
hilarious that you said to turn off the breakers but only for the first one and then proceeded to install the expansion lights (powered by mains voltage) with the power on
Shane thank you for the video, this is a product that is worth having in your home. My only question is if you wanted to keep a smart switch on the wall which ones can you use that are compatible with these lights? Hydrogen
I’ve got mine early and got to set mine up the same day the app was updated to support it! I love it I think it looks very nice and bright, I love the senses and etc and me myself am happy with the purchase but I love LEDs and I love Nanoleafs from there other products I have
@@donaldlee6760 I Still love it. It have had some issues but seems to mostly been good. the times it has issues typically are when you turn the light on or off or from power goes out can glitch it out for a bit, but firmware might of fixed it but I've been scared to try not wanting it to glitch when its been working great. The only other issue I have is occasionally when creating a scene I may want to look at the more motions that they have sometimes it says can't connect to sever or something like that but its good and im not having that issue currently it seems like other newer Nanoleaf products I have are slightly more glitchy at the moment than those aka the new multi colored Strip lights, so I think its pretty good and I Still Love them and they worked and been realy good but like most things there are a couple glitches or bugs here and there.
Thanks for the vid ! I have almost every every product they released ! Even their collaborations with other brands .. but … I’m starting to doubt their reliability.. their app that needs a serious update, their firmware update that often fails ! .. and finally the after sales support who is not responsive at all !! All of that at premium price .. i don’t know , I really love their ideas , but better I wait for someone else to copy that !
Thank you for a good and thorough review Shane. Can you tell us the exact outside dimensions of one panel ? I have a recessed area in my kitchen ceiling I’d like to put these in, but I need to know if they will fit properly. 0:12
I had the first panels called canvas. I had similar problems with the non responsive thing at times. Nanoleaf eventually sent me a new control panel. It worked for a few months and back to non responsive. Spent way to much money on them and have been afraid to buy anything from Nanoleaf since. When it worked I loved it but when it don't it will make you feel ripped off.
I use smart bulbs with smart switches. All I do is create automation which turns the smart bulb on when the smart switch is turned on. When the light comes on, i can then continue to link any other automations.
Yup. that's what I did with my nanoleaf recess lights in my office too. The lights are controlled by a motion sensor most of the time and if it gets turned off by the switch, my automation resets the state after 10 minutes if the switch is still off by turning on the light and turning off the recessed light. I hate the 'No Response" states from bulbs and lights because the light switch is turned off.
Not Nanoleaf related, but what is that digital clock under your monitors? Now Nanoleaf - I just put up some shapes and looking at lines. I doubt I will ever install these skylights because every where I could put them all have ceiling fans. I’m not about to take fans down, especially being in Florida
The clock is configured using Yeelight Cubes. Full video here: ruclips.net/video/dFP4UmrtBIk/видео.html I understand needing ceiling fans! My studio is literally the only room without a ceiling fan. I could also see these being cool in a hallway or something like that.
Good question. They do show up as a device you can add to the device sync for the 4D. However, after testing this, it seems that the Skylight is not being affected by the 4D. Perhaps a firmware update will fix this if it's an issue.
Looks like it needs some improvements before it’s worth buying. As for lining them up, tile spacers might help. And here’s a prime use case for a smart switch that works with smart “bulbs.” Hopefully the NanoLeaf Sense+ Light Switch comes out soon, but better.
Probably best for alignment would be instead of having to run wires through one to the other have it plug into each other like an m2. Drive or something. Slide and click.
I told myself to not buy anymore lighting or sensors if it doen’t support thread. To include more and more thread routers your network will become stable and responsive. I don’t have a clue why Nanoleaf made the decision to go for a wifi antenna. That got me thinking. It’s offcourse also possible to make a panel yourself with some wood, a blade of diffuser material and a thread enable ledstrip or bulb. OK you don’t get the flashy disco effects but who cares. In the end it’s much cheaper, more versatile and your thread network is improving.
The panels and the way they transform the ceiling light from boring to amazing are great. They really set themselves apart from the market space with this product. And yet, I find myself really moving away from Nanoleaf mostly because of their horrible app. Nanoleaf needs to fire their software team and start over, as their physical products are the best out there. That said, and as others have noted, there are also a ton of misses: thread vs. WiFi (and only 2.4), no adaptive lighting, and too many dark spots make these way too overpriced. Moreover, we know that they will cut the price by 40% when the next major holiday comes around making early adopters feel ripped off.
This would be perfect in my hallway as it only has a light at one end and I already have an Aqara light switch controlling that light. I could set it to act as a smart switch but damn that price would be tough to convince the wife of… at the price we would need it’s about the same as just hiring an electrician and adding a new light to the end of the hall
I've also had absurd connectivity issues- namely, you can't power cycle them and expect to still connect or re-pair them. Pretty disappointing overall, definitely got ripped off with this. They make it near impossible to get money back too in their policies, so be warned. Too many people are giving negative reviews to take a chance, imo. I was just stupid.
I agree. While things sometimes might look better in person (some cars for instance) my initial take on the aesthetics of this thing can be summed up by the phrase: “cheap looking.” And I don’t take any joy in saying that either. All of that said, I am a big believer in “to each his or her own.”
Avoid this company. Cool product but they refuse to support the customer. When they make mistakes with their shipment, they didn’t fix it. It’s not worth the headache.
Bha ha ha ha ... Sixteen million colors....good luck showing those colors... I just notice in nanoleaf 'ads' they are solid light panels, they do not show the dark center...but you can see clearly why when the cover is off...the leds are only on the perimeter of fixture...
Thank you for not sugar coating this review! It's hard to find reviews that are honest and actually cover the real consumer issues/drawbacks to these products.
Shane is the real deal he doesn’t play that way. That’s why we support his channel. ❤
No Matter, no Thread, no adaptive lighting, and $250 for 3 panels? No way, I don't mine expensive and high quality products. I do mind lazy and overpriced products.
Bro, what do you expect, it’s Nanoleaf. The only good thing they offer are their lightbulbs. The rest is way overpriced and seems to be made exclusively for influencers and suckers 😂
I was so looking forward to this for like a year now. What a rip.
And over 2 W in standby - I‘m not sure this is per panel - if so, almost 7W standby in the starter set with 3 panels
For 250 bucks the technology should be state of the art
I read it takes around 2 minutes to boot up and connect to WIFI after a power loss. Better hope no one accidently flips the switch. They couldn't put better hardware in a $250 system?
What do you suggest then?
Hi readers, and Shane. We just installed the skylight and loving it. We just hired a handyman who did a good job. And this is how I solved the switch issue. All across the house I replaced the regular (dumb) switches by connecting the 2 wires (so always on) in the switch box. Then I covered the switch box holes with the Aqara H1 switches, that screws in perfectly closing the holes, and is the same dimension as the switches. Then i control the Aqara switches over homekit.
Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing your switch solution!
Dang... when I clicked on this video I immediately wanted these for my garage/golf sim, but this prices are WILD!
Oh these would be sweet added to your golf sim. But yea... totally agree.... the price is indeed wild!
Shane my Sundays are not complete until I hear the intro of your videos
Haha thanks for watching! 😃
Love the lights but absence of adaptive lighting is a deal breaker for me. Loving your setup.
Same here.
What a damn shame they chose to leave this (to me) extremely important feature.
Thread would have been to tho.
As per my knowledge anything that is Matter 1.0 does not support adaptive lighting and so has nothing to do with Nanoleaf.
That is true, matter doesn’t support adaptive lighting. Hopefully it will one day.
@@pghatak yes but the Nanoleaf Skylight does not use Matter. They are connecting via HomeKit integration and should have been able to add adaptive lighting.
It’s beyond me why manufacturers don’t reach out to people like you, Shane, before running a full production. The issues you bring up are obvious to people like us, Nanoleaf could’ve hit a home run with this.
Bro u got one of the best set up
PSA: for any watchers also installing in Europe. Our kits apparently don’t have the mounting bracket and wing nuts!! I was going crazy and even ordered a second one just in case but nope also didn’t have it. Gonna have to return it now 😅 I guess Nanoleaf didn’t feel the need to include this since, you know, our ceilings are made out of concrete 😂 thanks for your detailed install videos Shane!
I have been waiting for these to come out! I have the old school two tube fluorescent light in my kitchen that I want to replace with these.
I love Nanoleaf's stuff, it's seriously cool! But ngl (not gonna lie), my Nanoleaf bulbs have been acting funky lately. I gotta reset them like, once or twice a week, and I keep thinking it's my Wi-Fi, but I'm starting to doubt it. For the price tag, you shouldn't have to deal with this much trouble. Hopefully Nanoleaf can fix this with an app update or something, or maybe give us some better troubleshooting tips!
Thank you for sharing and being so cool!
Similar problem for me with the bulbs. We have 6 bulbs and 4 of them periodically say I need to connect them. When I try, it says you did this in another app so go there. So I go to Home and re-scan the code. It’s like our setup just forgets these bulbs after a couple weeks.
Very slick looking product Shane. I kinda dig the Live Premier video release.
I wish these lights were getting better reviews. Seems, from The RUclipss, that Skylights may have been released before they were fully finished.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching! Great to hear the feedback during the Premier! Have a great day!
Hope you have a great day too@@ShaneCreates - Hopefully someone from #Nanoleaf is paying attention to the reviews...along with the Comments Sections. My ideal installation would involve like 19 total panels - so I would order the 12-pack AND the 9-pack (and I would used the leftover panels for a closet).
While pretty much every reviewer makes several comments about the cost of the product...it was not all that shocking to me when I saw the price. BUT...I would expect the product to work exceptionally well at this price point. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be the case. It would be nice (as I mentioned in the Live Premier Chat) if @Nanoleaf would offer a 'meaningful' Promo Code, at least to Member/Subscribers of Sponsored Reviewer Channels. I'm unsure of how to effectively tag them in RUclips Comments...but a good Promo Code would absolutely help offset some of the hassles/limitations that are being reported.
Just my opinion.
11:29 the Aqara h1 wall switch can do this right?
They are hard as heck to align up correctly. Even straight line is a factor if the room is small. The more panels you add the more the alignment issue increases. Also there is a pronounced shadow in the center of the panels.
8:16 I spent probably 30 minutes installing each panel just to make sure they lined up correctly. I have 12 panels
Ground wire - assuming you tied that down to a green screw on a mounting bracket?
I did on my Skylight setup.
Is it possible to turn on just one or a select number of the squares or does all of the connected squares have to be turned on?
These lights are really cool. Nanoleaf makes some great products but they always have issues. Wasnt surprised to hear you already had trouble with them not connecting. The price seems too high and to know they won’t work flawless makes me hold off. I have a few sets of different shapes and lines and have had issues with them all. My ocd wouldn’t handle those spaces in your ceiling line up for the square. Will wait for Govee to make a similar product.
Looks awesome Shane!!
Question for you. Where is that power setting to select for it to come on at the last setting used? I can’t find anything like that. I bought the 4D for my new tv and when I turn it on it’s always solid white. I want it to come on with the same mirroring settings each time but I have to go into the nanoleaf app to change it. It’s getting annoying.
What's the lowest brightness looks like. I maybe dumb for doing this, but I feel like covering my whole ceiling with this.
So I can have that kind of Unbox Therapy Studio Lighting in my room.
But my concern is turning all of em all at once might be too blinding. What do you think?
hilarious that you said to turn off the breakers but only for the first one and then proceeded to install the expansion lights (powered by mains voltage) with the power on
How many do you need to adequately light a room brightly?
Shane thank you for the video, this is a product that is worth having in your home. My only question is if you wanted to keep a smart switch on the wall which ones can you use that are compatible with these lights? Hydrogen
I’ve got mine early and got to set mine up the same day the app was updated to support it! I love it I think it looks very nice and bright, I love the senses and etc and me myself am happy with the purchase but I love LEDs and I love Nanoleafs from there other products I have
Now that you've lived with it for almost a year, has the connection been reliable? I'm considering something like this for a bedroom.
@@donaldlee6760 I Still love it. It have had some issues but seems to mostly been good. the times it has issues typically are when you turn the light on or off or from power goes out can glitch it out for a bit, but firmware might of fixed it but I've been scared to try not wanting it to glitch when its been working great. The only other issue I have is occasionally when creating a scene I may want to look at the more motions that they have sometimes it says can't connect to sever or something like that but its good and im not having that issue currently it seems like other newer Nanoleaf products I have are slightly more glitchy at the moment than those aka the new multi colored Strip lights, so I think its pretty good and I Still Love them and they worked and been realy good but like most things there are a couple glitches or bugs here and there.
Does it work with philips hue?
Are there any alternatives? Dont want to get ripped off?
Love the countdown graphics
Thanks for tuning in to the premier! 😃
Thanks for the vid ! I have almost every every product they released ! Even their collaborations with other brands ..
but … I’m starting to doubt their reliability.. their app that needs a serious update, their firmware update that often fails ! .. and finally the after sales support who is not responsive at all !! All of that at premium price .. i don’t know , I really love their ideas , but better I wait for someone else to copy that !
Thank you for a good and thorough review Shane. Can you tell us the exact outside dimensions of one panel ? I have a recessed area in my kitchen ceiling I’d like to put these in, but I need to know if they will fit properly. 0:12
Sure here here the exact dimensions: 300 x 300 x 55mm (that's just under 12 x12in with about a 2in thickness)
@@ShaneCreates thanks Shane.
Nice video. Find out more about the German company Wago ;)
What is the brand??!! Need to know!!
I’m in an apartment can you put one panel in each room?
If you want to have wires over your ceiling. So probably not an option so you need the controller tile in every room.
I had the first panels called canvas. I had similar problems with the non responsive thing at times. Nanoleaf eventually sent me a new control panel. It worked for a few months and back to non responsive. Spent way to much money on them and have been afraid to buy anything from Nanoleaf since. When it worked I loved it but when it don't it will make you feel ripped off.
I Told Govee to do modular cloud ceiling panels like this over a year ago. Maybe this will actually get them to do it.
I use smart bulbs with smart switches. All I do is create automation which turns the smart bulb on when the smart switch is turned on. When the light comes on, i can then continue to link any other automations.
Yup. that's what I did with my nanoleaf recess lights in my office too. The lights are controlled by a motion sensor most of the time and if it gets turned off by the switch, my automation resets the state after 10 minutes if the switch is still off by turning on the light and turning off the recessed light. I hate the 'No Response" states from bulbs and lights because the light switch is turned off.
Not Nanoleaf related, but what is that digital clock under your monitors?
Now Nanoleaf - I just put up some shapes and looking at lines. I doubt I will ever install these skylights because every where I could put them all have ceiling fans. I’m not about to take fans down, especially being in Florida
The clock is configured using Yeelight Cubes. Full video here: ruclips.net/video/dFP4UmrtBIk/видео.html
I understand needing ceiling fans! My studio is literally the only room without a ceiling fan. I could also see these being cool in a hallway or something like that.
Does the sky light work with your TV 4d
Good question. They do show up as a device you can add to the device sync for the 4D. However, after testing this, it seems that the Skylight is not being affected by the 4D. Perhaps a firmware update will fix this if it's an issue.
Looks like it needs some improvements before it’s worth buying. As for lining them up, tile spacers might help. And here’s a prime use case for a smart switch that works with smart “bulbs.”
Hopefully the NanoLeaf Sense+ Light Switch comes out soon, but better.
Probably best for alignment would be instead of having to run wires through one to the other have it plug into each other like an m2. Drive or something. Slide and click.
I came from the aqara ceiling light video and was considering this instead until i saw the price
10:50 perfect place for a shelly mini
I told myself to not buy anymore lighting or sensors if it doen’t support thread. To include more and more thread routers your network will become stable and responsive. I don’t have a clue why Nanoleaf made the decision to go for a wifi antenna.
That got me thinking. It’s offcourse also possible to make a panel yourself with some wood, a blade of diffuser material and a thread enable ledstrip or bulb. OK you don’t get the flashy disco effects but who cares. In the end it’s much cheaper, more versatile and your thread network is improving.
The panels and the way they transform the ceiling light from boring to amazing are great. They really set themselves apart from the market space with this product. And yet, I find myself really moving away from Nanoleaf mostly because of their horrible app. Nanoleaf needs to fire their software team and start over, as their physical products are the best out there. That said, and as others have noted, there are also a ton of misses: thread vs. WiFi (and only 2.4), no adaptive lighting, and too many dark spots make these way too overpriced. Moreover, we know that they will cut the price by 40% when the next major holiday comes around making early adopters feel ripped off.
These are nice but I prefer something like Govee due to their ability to adapt to the tv screen.
Someone should create a video for a DIY version of this using Wifi and WLED, and connect to Home Assistant.
This would be perfect in my hallway as it only has a light at one end and I already have an Aqara light switch controlling that light. I could set it to act as a smart switch but damn that price would be tough to convince the wife of… at the price we would need it’s about the same as just hiring an electrician and adding a new light to the end of the hall
Looks nice. But sadly it’s not zigbee. Adaptive lighting can be fixed with Home Assistant. This is why you shouldn’t put all your eggs in one basket
I've also had absurd connectivity issues- namely, you can't power cycle them and expect to still connect or re-pair them. Pretty disappointing overall, definitely got ripped off with this. They make it near impossible to get money back too in their policies, so be warned. Too many people are giving negative reviews to take a chance, imo. I was just stupid.
oh and the reset button didn't work either lol. So this was terrible.
Very nice BUT I guess am gona wait until Govee does the same but better and cheaper :) but yeah very nice
Mine are showing two halos. Built quality is not good.
A few panels will add up to the price of my car :DDDD
That price is a total dealbreaker for me. It’s a neat product but nothing super innovative and it appears to be mostly plastic. Come onnnn, Nanoleaf!
I was so disappointed when they released the price and specs.
I would be more interested if it was twice as bright.
Of course I have 8 panels in my setup, but these are extremely bright.
The shape and plasticity of the basic square are unattractive. I don't think the product blends in well with a warm interior.
I agree. While things sometimes might look better in person (some cars for instance) my initial take on the aesthetics of this thing can be summed up by the phrase: “cheap looking.” And I don’t take any joy in saying that either.
All of that said, I am a big believer in “to each his or her own.”
Looks amazing but too much $
They're ok, but they suffer from the typical Nanoleaf randomness of randomly not working and fucking up all shortcuts associated with it.
Wait go back to the pressure mat.
9 panels are expensive
Avoid this company. Cool product but they refuse to support the customer. When they make mistakes with their shipment, they didn’t fix it. It’s not worth the headache.
Bha ha ha ha ... Sixteen million colors....good luck showing those colors...
I just notice in nanoleaf 'ads' they are solid light panels, they do not show the dark center...but you can see clearly why when the cover is off...the leds are only on the perimeter of fixture...
For free but not sponsored... 🤔
$250 + 3x $70 to=> you received a $410+taxes gift
Not sponsored! No. 😅