Maumee homeowner must foot 5-figure sewer repair bill due to recent city ordinance

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @williamkechkaylo7915
    @williamkechkaylo7915 4 месяца назад +79

    as a plumber, i had to replace the sewer from the house to the lateral of the city sewer. it also was shared with the next door. they refused to help pay for their share of the replacement so, i was told not to reconnect their home. as a result, the owner who refused to pay had their home condemned. (no sanitary sewer) oh well. they had no lateral to connect to. they would need to connect directly to the main. what would have cost them around $1000 probably cost them $12,000. cheap skates learn the hard way.

    • @chiefsnarlsnortz1610
      @chiefsnarlsnortz1610 4 месяца назад +4

      Luv that! Hope she does the same, if needed?!

    • @chiefsnarlsnortz1610
      @chiefsnarlsnortz1610 4 месяца назад +1

      When was that subdivision built? Who approved it, along with river disposal? @ 65, this makes no sense to me! How long ago has dumping waste been illegal!

    • @williamkechkaylo7915
      @williamkechkaylo7915 4 месяца назад +1

      @@chiefsnarlsnortz1610 inside city limits. unknow when homes were built but it was and still is common in that city. i expect they were done just after ww2 with the rush of/demand of homes. dumping waste has been illegal (SEWAGE) for many years.

    • @petebusch9069
      @petebusch9069 4 месяца назад +1

      Nobody wants to pay and make everything someone else's problem.

    • @govinda102000
      @govinda102000 4 месяца назад +1

      Surprisingly the city didn't penalize your customer. Happy ending. I just paid 12k for 80 feet of sewer but that included 10x20 driveway paving above it.

  • @dlight9849
    @dlight9849 4 месяца назад +61

    Two neighbors share the sewer but only one is being forced to pay for the repairs -- why no explanation on this? MIMS

    • @Serpico1152
      @Serpico1152 4 месяца назад +5

      @dlight9849 I worked for a water & sewer municipality for 40 years and these shared "Y" connections are quite common, probably the reason that the other Homeowner does not have to pay or be involved is that this woman's problem is on her own private separate branch of that "Y" junction and her neighbor's portion is fine, the municipality is normally responsible from the "Y" fitting and on the single pipe portion. If the shoe was on the other foot would she be willing to pay the costs to repair her neighbor's connection if there were no issues on her portion? 🤔

    • @Bigrignohio
      @Bigrignohio 4 месяца назад +7

      @@Serpico1152 But they said she has to replace the line to the STREET, not just to the "Y". Looks like 1/3 or more of the run is after the "Y".

    • @dyates6380
      @dyates6380 4 месяца назад +5

      It's because they are not selling their house, which means it isn't mandatory to make the repairs. She didn't have to either, but she's the one selling her house and that is why it's being done in the first place, so that is why the neighbor bears no responsibility for it. He's not selling his home, she is. Thus, the repair needing to be done in the first place is solely due to action being taken by her, not both of them. Whether the neighbor wants to contribute or not is obviously completely up to them, and to be honest, if I was them and if I was looking into selling in the future, I'd split the cost with her. However, if I wasn't planning on selling, I'd have to really think about it. It's tricky for sure.

    • @Bigrignohio
      @Bigrignohio 4 месяца назад +3

      @@dyates6380 Nothing tricky about it. What if there were three houses on the lateral? Four? Heck what if everyone on that side of the street was on that same lateral that EVENTUALLY hit the city main. Would she still be responsible the entire distance? As soon as it went from "hers" to "common" it should be on the sewer district to maintain.

    • @chiefsnarlsnortz1610
      @chiefsnarlsnortz1610 4 месяца назад +5

      No way I would leave neighbor connected!

  • @user-ii3vn8tn3q
    @user-ii3vn8tn3q 4 месяца назад +50

    If she alone pay, she shouldn't have to pay for a duo line, no link to the neighbor.

    • @DHxJarsyl
      @DHxJarsyl 4 месяца назад +1

      She probably doesn't. I am pretty sure combined lines are no longer authorized anywhere. I know my house in texas was still using an old combined line that ran through my neighbors yard, but that neighbor had a new line that was separate.

  • @Attalla2023
    @Attalla2023 4 месяца назад +26

    I rented a backhoe, bought the pipeline and did this myself. 1500 dollars. A plumber wanted over 10000. Now im out of the city. Well and septic. I do everything. Electrical, plumbing. Whatever, i do not pay anyone for anything.

    • @TheVeggiekat
      @TheVeggiekat 4 месяца назад

      Not many people have those skills and would just mess things up worse. Also could be a problem for an average person getting a permit to do this

    • @FloridaFrank2010
      @FloridaFrank2010 4 месяца назад +1

      This is the way - aka freedom.

    • @BoomstickMark5
      @BoomstickMark5 4 месяца назад

      Some cities require a licensed contractor. Insured and Bonded.

    • @natureboy1313
      @natureboy1313 4 месяца назад

      Good way to save some $$. But you ever encounter an issue. Unlikely that your home owners insurance will cover.

    • @anjhindul
      @anjhindul 4 месяца назад

      I kinda want to see your electrical. Half what I see diy, scares me. Currently helping one rebuild, after diy burned their house down.

  • @Plethora.of.Pinatas
    @Plethora.of.Pinatas 4 месяца назад +1

    They did that where I live years back when they replaced all public water lines under the street. The people who could not pay had bonds against their land and the land was taken by city later.

  • @vivalaleta
    @vivalaleta 5 месяцев назад +23

    We have a little bicycle shop in a small town. This summer the city decided to replace the pipes, sidewalks, street lights and roads. The tiny, ornamental park across the street was neglected so, with our own meager funds, we planted some perennials. It was torn away also. The shaking of the machines to our building knocked down plaster and broke dishes. The noise and mud scared customers away and we (as well as the other shops I'm sure) lost at least a third of our seasonal income. On top of all this we now owe the city almost $20,000'for the pleasure.

  • @msomething3579
    @msomething3579 4 месяца назад +11

    Every house I owned the sewer and water line connections from the house to the street were my responsibility. The new thing is every one is selling water line insurance and sewer line insurance, I get offers from the power and gas company every billing cycle. So yes, from the house to the street comes out of the homeowners pocket,..

  • @dianarockwell6256
    @dianarockwell6256 4 месяца назад +14

    If the city put in those lines, that is part of their infrastructure of city services, if the homeowner pays a monthly fee or a yearly fee, as in the case of my city, which just doubled, by the way, then the homeowner is not responsible to repair or replace the cities infrastructure. I don’t care how many laws they pass. This person had kept with a septic tank. This wouldn’t be an issue, but the cities infrastructure sounds old since it’s clay and needs to be replaced so they decided to let the homeowners pay the price. Bad form.

    • @williamevans2176
      @williamevans2176 4 месяца назад +1

      This is not part of the city sewer. It is the service line into the home, which is always the homeowners responsibility and installed by the homebuilder. Unfortunately, these are very old clay tiles, which allows tree roots to enter and haven't been used for decades. Newer homes have plastic piping that is impervious to roots, so this law really only effects older homeowners.

  • @mazzith
    @mazzith 4 месяца назад +2

    Wonder if a relative of the of the city is a line repairman.

  • @Catfish5577
    @Catfish5577 5 месяцев назад +9

    All this done with the best of intentions, what could possibly go wrong?

  • @Chris-tb1er
    @Chris-tb1er 5 месяцев назад +34

    They already pay property tax and the city should pay for it since they want it done !

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 4 месяца назад

      What is everyone say that I pay a dollar a month? I should get it everything now for free because I’m paying something.
      Yes, the city could’ve repaired all of these and raised everybody’s taxes, but people would’ve complained about that too

    • @PilotVBall
      @PilotVBall 4 месяца назад

      There's no such thing as a property tax. The correct term is housing tax. But the regime doesn't want you realizing that housing should not be taxed. You have the right to anyone without the regime encroaching through punitive taxation.

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 4 месяца назад

      @@PilotVBall
      Yes, reality doesn’t matter. Only your conspiracy theory does. And your job at the bureau of naming things all allows you to tell everyone what things are really called.

    • @williamevans2176
      @williamevans2176 4 месяца назад

      ​@@PilotVBallthey tax you on the value of the land as well as the house and any other improvements such as a swimming pool, so that's why it's property tax.

    • @bubbajones4522
      @bubbajones4522 4 месяца назад

      @@PilotVBall Housing Tax, Property Tax? No, it's government rent. We The People are not allowed to own property but rather we rent it from the government. If you don't think so then don't pay your rent and you'll get evicted. You also need to get the owners permission and pay them a fee if you want to modify their property.

  • @hosta3199
    @hosta3199 4 месяца назад +5

    This is good thing. I bought my house and unaware sewage line was damaged and backing up and i now am stuck with repairs. Homeowner should had it fixed prior to selling.

    • @onenikkione
      @onenikkione 4 месяца назад +1

      Hire an inspector (that sends a camera down the drain/sewer lines) b4 you purchase

    • @BusArch42
      @BusArch42 4 месяца назад

      @@onenikkionealways. We own and have our sewer line inspected every two years after some neighbors had horrible damage to theirs from a tree

  • @FastestStockCarEver
    @FastestStockCarEver 4 месяца назад +10

    Epoxy pipe relining, also known as trenchless pipe lining, is a minimally invasive method for repairing drain, waste, and vent lines using epoxy resin to create a new pipe within an existing damaged one:

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 4 месяца назад

      It’s not available everywhere, though.

    • @FastestStockCarEver
      @FastestStockCarEver 4 месяца назад

      @@evilsharkey8954 a real plumber can get anything anywhere!!!

    • @evilsharkey8954
      @evilsharkey8954 4 месяца назад +1

      @@beckymash12 It depends on how bad it is. If it’s collapsed, no. If there’s just some broken pieces inside, yes. I watched a video on how they do it years ago. They have a pusher on a long spool that removes the broken bits and then they evert a new pipe dripping with resin into the old pipe.

    • @onenikkione
      @onenikkione 4 месяца назад

      might cast just as much. only difference is no digging up the yard

  • @Hibbie2963
    @Hibbie2963 4 месяца назад +1

    This is why I don't live in the city limits, Country Baby!

  • @darkwolfe6986
    @darkwolfe6986 4 месяца назад

    Why not have the city offer low cost loans for sewer installation and upgrades that are tied to the property and can be transferred to new owners? Several municipalities offer this program

  • @rickchapman9232
    @rickchapman9232 5 месяцев назад +4

    I watched the video and it kept going back and forth between sewers and storm drains so are they the same?

    • @danlowe8684
      @danlowe8684 5 месяцев назад +6

      It's not you, it's the reporting!! It sounds like there are two issues with her sewer lines: 1) Her clay tile (common in older homes) sanitary sewer line likely has a low spot or is damaged. The contractor runs a camera down the line, records it, and it gets sent to the city inspector for review before house can be sold. The inspector ordered repairs be done to that line. 2) Her gutters, foundation drain tile, and or sump pump is discharging into the sanitary sewer line instead of the storm sewer (clean water) line. This leads to massive inflows to wastewater treatment plant (WWTP) during rain events. The WWTP cannot possibly handle all of this, so the sewage/rainwater mix overflows into the river, lake or ocean the plant discharges into. This is why E. coli warnings at beaches after storms are common.
      This is called infiltration & inflow (I & I). Most cities do not have their own WWTP and get billed by gallons of sewage sent to the plant. Thus, it is very expensive to have clean water treated unnecessarily. Also, the EPA has started getting tougher on raw sewage discharges and fines the WWTP operator for spillages. My hometown dealt with this issue about 20 years ago. They hired a contractor to do all homes in town (to get a good price), and the city then paid 50% of the bill. The balance was placed on property taxes if one could not afford it.

    • @viktorakhmedov3442
      @viktorakhmedov3442 4 месяца назад +1

      @@danlowe8684 Many cities in the Midwest (including Maumee) have a combined sanitary/storm system. There is no separate storm system. That's the problem.

  • @jefff6167
    @jefff6167 4 месяца назад

    We have a similar ordinance in Sidney OH.
    The leaking sewage must be cleaned up.
    Who should pay?
    Well, whose poo is it?

  • @steveniemyer9288
    @steveniemyer9288 4 месяца назад +2

    If you make a law that requires repairs are to be made, repair prices are going to go up.

  • @Fireguy97
    @Fireguy97 4 месяца назад

    The problem with, "Market Rate" pricing is that it's based on an even market. When you pass a city ordinance and mandate a time line, you drastically change the parameters of that even market. Short time lines and a flood of clients because of the new ordinance makes a flood of clients. Rates now go up. Does the city works department not understand this?

  • @OldAndInTheWay-k1w
    @OldAndInTheWay-k1w 4 месяца назад

    Who doesn't carry sewer and water line coverage on their insurance? If the city says lines need replacement let the ins company work it out
    Mine is.coverage up to 20k for line replacement.

  • @joemeathook-rb2nx
    @joemeathook-rb2nx 4 месяца назад

    It seems quite expensive I’ve replaced my sewer line from the inside to the city and it only cost $6000

  • @politicsuncensored5617
    @politicsuncensored5617 4 месяца назад +2

    Our gov. leaders at all levels seem to think because they have a large pile of our tax $$$ dollars to play with when they want to that homeowners should have no problem in coming up with $12,000.00 or in case of some people living 70 miles down out cost that need to come up with $100,000.00 extra by Dec. 2024. If they don't come up with the $100K they may lose their homes. I hope things work out for Ms. Grzecki. Shalom

  • @MrHurricaneFloyd
    @MrHurricaneFloyd 4 месяца назад

    In most communities house to main connection is the homeowner's responsibility.

  • @nolongeramused8135
    @nolongeramused8135 4 месяца назад

    Is the neighbor actually affected by the problem? If not, then why should they split the bill? If the answer is "not yet" then they'll be paying eventually.

  • @Mark-lq3sb
    @Mark-lq3sb 4 месяца назад

    My house has a clay sewer lateral. I pay an added cost (around 60 dollars.) to my property tax every year which is "insurance" incase my line needs replacing. If it does need replacing the city will replace at no extra charge to me. The old line is still good, chugging along since 1955, but I know it could go at anytime.

  • @eldebtor6973
    @eldebtor6973 4 месяца назад

    Do hoa cover this?

  • @caseycieslikowski2929
    @caseycieslikowski2929 4 месяца назад +1

    Government ruins everything it touches.

  • @Bigrignohio
    @Bigrignohio 4 месяца назад +10

    It is HER line . . . until there is more than one person on it. Then it is the CITY'S line!

    • @Bigrignohio
      @Bigrignohio 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Look_What_You_Did Because otherwise she could CUT the line and leave the neighbor without sewer? So "fak off".

  • @franklinhernandez683
    @franklinhernandez683 4 месяца назад +1

    How can that sewer not be be up to code it's been working ever since they connected their they just want to make her move it so they can bounce her out

  • @michman2
    @michman2 4 месяца назад +2

    Looks like the city legislated a contractor field day.

    • @Fireguy97
      @Fireguy97 4 месяца назад +1

      Exactly. A contractor field day, then the city has the balls to whine about, "Market Rates". Standard Market Rates are only applicable when it's an even and stable market. Throw in a new mandated by-law with a short time line and you have an artificial field day. Prices go up.

  • @estelladog1
    @estelladog1 4 месяца назад

    Our City has not only Sewer and Water line help for repairs but they also have spent months and years replacing old sewer lines in every subdivison as needed! WTH is going on in that City?...crazy.

  • @barrysnow6993
    @barrysnow6993 4 месяца назад +2

    Fees (a tax), local taxes, city taxes, state taxes, federal taxes... Does anyone else see a pattern? The system gets rich under the guise of the "community wins" as the potholes get bigger... Communism is in the taxation...

  • @SillyPutty3700
    @SillyPutty3700 4 месяца назад

    It seems to me that the owner's problem stops at their property line. It seems like BS that the owner is stuck paying for both.

  • @danasmith858
    @danasmith858 4 месяца назад +1

    Basically just make a single line from her house, let the neighbor pay when they have their house done, easy peasy😅

  • @stevejones9062
    @stevejones9062 4 месяца назад +1

    City has passed an illegal ordinance, shared sewer = shared cost.

    • @everybuddy5924
      @everybuddy5924 4 месяца назад

      Not really, the pipes to the city sewer runs through her property thus makes it her responsibility. The neighbor would be responsible for the piping that is on their property.
      The builder saved costs by connecting the neighbors line into the other persons line thus pocketing the saving from having to run two separate lines.

  • @tiaharvey1261
    @tiaharvey1261 4 месяца назад

    What are taxes for??

    • @1stfloorguy59
      @1stfloorguy59 4 месяца назад

      Paying city workers and government pensions

  • @basspig
    @basspig 4 месяца назад

    Never allow city sewer to be connected to your home. We're never moved to an area that has pre-existing City sewer.

  • @MelaniaT-r6m
    @MelaniaT-r6m 4 месяца назад +4

    Maumee is a terrible place to live. Downtown is absolutely awful.

  • @hexhex7220
    @hexhex7220 4 месяца назад

    Our line ran across the adjoining neighbours property ( house built in 1921) Our neighbours " piggy backed" on our efforts, got to have their line done for a fraction of a full job, because the trench was dug when we did ours. They didn't lift a finger, or bother with a permit. Increased the value of their property by over $20,000.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 4 месяца назад

      They should have disconnected your sewer line as it was on their property

  • @suejaracz585
    @suejaracz585 4 месяца назад

    Prior to listing your home you should have had the sewer line inspected. Then you proceed with getting your quotes and or getting the necessary repairs completed.

  • @danielrandolph9170
    @danielrandolph9170 4 месяца назад

    Well it should be home owners responsibility to fix to city sewer hookup but not a the neighbors sewer line tell plumber don't connect the neighbors line to your new sewer line not your responsibility !! Stand your ground but I would ask neighbors first if they will share the cost & if not well you know what to tell your plumber !!!

  • @govinda102000
    @govinda102000 4 месяца назад

    Not an issue if her neighbor had agreed to pay for their share of the shared sewer.

  • @kchaney56
    @kchaney56 4 месяца назад

    The ordinance is illegal and the city needs to be sued.

  • @robertbragg9364
    @robertbragg9364 4 месяца назад

    We dont own our tree lawns or sidewalks in ohio. I dont understand why the city expects the homeowner to pay for a pipe they own. They charge us a monthly fee for the pipe. They should maintain their pipe, in my opinion.

  • @user-zu5do6ri6r
    @user-zu5do6ri6r 4 месяца назад

    Seems like something taxes should cover.

  • @EdMaco-ob6ur
    @EdMaco-ob6ur 4 месяца назад

    Don't hook neighbor back up

  • @yellowbird5411
    @yellowbird5411 4 месяца назад

    I wonder if her insurance would cover any of it.

    • @relevant.c5411
      @relevant.c5411 4 месяца назад

      NOT LIKELY. THEY COVER WHAT IS INSIDE THE HOUSE AS FAR AS SEWER LINES. I JUST WENT THRU THIS DUE TO MY TAP BEING OFF THE MAIN AND IT COST ME 12K TO FIX OR THE CITY WOULD HAVE CONDEMNED MY HOUSE. THERE ARE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT OFFER SEWER LINE COVERAGE FROM THE OUTSIDE OF UR HOME TO THE TAP. I HAD THIS ...LONG STORY SHT AFTER GETTING THE CITY INVOLVED THIS INS REIMBURSED ME 2/3RDS THE COST AFTER INITIALLY DENYING THE CLAIM.

    • @yellowbird5411
      @yellowbird5411 4 месяца назад

      @@relevant.c5411 I'm glad you got at least partial coverage. Still expensive for you. Insurance companies can be awful. Glad you persisted.

  • @davidbrooks8809
    @davidbrooks8809 4 месяца назад

    Except this is Ohio😮

  • @98f5
    @98f5 4 месяца назад

    Sure sounds like a scam

  • @tinytim4657
    @tinytim4657 5 месяцев назад

    She did this without understanding of how long it takes to process the inspection - takes 60 days

  • @chiefsnarlsnortz1610
    @chiefsnarlsnortz1610 4 месяца назад

    Who originally planted sewer lines to A River! & When? How long has that subdivision been there? How many houses.or businesses are discharging in the river? Is this a national issue in this day an age? That’s been outlawed for how many decades? Should’ve been fixed ages ago! 😢 Wake Up America 🇺🇸

  • @DemocratsUnite
    @DemocratsUnite 4 месяца назад

    This law is in place to protect the environment. I support it 100%.

  • @MMCUSN
    @MMCUSN 4 месяца назад +1

    The Government is not your friend, no matter how many of your friends work there.
    For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 1 Timothy 6:10
    That City council needs some sweet Jesus upside their heads.

  • @davidbrooks8809
    @davidbrooks8809 4 месяца назад +2

    So much garbage and so many hidden costs on your home this is why like I like renting... too much to deal with expensive when you getting up in age

  • @sheevson7458
    @sheevson7458 4 месяца назад

    Garbage government rides again.

  • @zbow1974
    @zbow1974 4 месяца назад

    well as for the neighbor, hes not wanting to sell and dont new sewer lines updated, all you honey

  • @dixiebrick
    @dixiebrick 4 месяца назад

    Colonialism 2.0

  • @eattherich9215
    @eattherich9215 4 месяца назад +3

    '... everyone pays a tax or a fee because all would benefit from it ...' That's SOCIALISM lady and something Americans don't want. 😂

    • @maryswanson9982
      @maryswanson9982 4 месяца назад +5

      So is the fire department. Libraries, too. Public education and community healthcare… Veterans Admin. So many things that help other’s are not acceptable to MAGA.

    • @Bill-im6nt
      @Bill-im6nt 4 месяца назад

      I thought we were done with defund the police nuts?

    • @eattherich9215
      @eattherich9215 4 месяца назад

      @@maryswanson9982: 🎯I don't get why people don't understand that America already has elements of socialism.

  • @colddeadhands5167
    @colddeadhands5167 4 месяца назад

    This is the LATERAL sewer line running from the house to the public sewer main. Clearly the responsibility of each homeowner. Anyone, who is not an idiot, can purchase an insurance policy to cover these repair costs foe less than 50 bucks a year......you just can't fix stupid

  • @Netcentric-fk6ek
    @Netcentric-fk6ek 5 месяцев назад +3

    Its called life ....lady

  • @milfordcivic6755
    @milfordcivic6755 5 месяцев назад +3

    So, she wants to sell a house with outdated clay sewer lines? Seems unfair to stick the buyer or city with that bill. She sure doesn't seem to be hurting for cash looking at the decor and fixtures in that house.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 4 месяца назад

      😉 Exactly. Outdated and failing

    • @Bill-im6nt
      @Bill-im6nt 4 месяца назад +1

      She specifically said she did not want to pass on the problem, not even as escrow.

  • @franklinhernandez683
    @franklinhernandez683 4 месяца назад

    Who gives up to f*** about that River

  • @dennistowne457
    @dennistowne457 4 месяца назад

    Could only happen in Florida.

    • @TheRealJoeMama1
      @TheRealJoeMama1 4 месяца назад +2

      Ohio is NOT in Florida. Try to keep up.