Dad shoes are comfortable. As you get older you realize a lot of shoes are not comfortable, even if they look good. New Balance has done an amazing job of taking comfortable shoes and letting designers get creative with colors and materials.
@@christopherrodriguez9514Yep that’s a big reason Yeezy took off as it did. Jordan’s just DON’T feel right because they’re not shaped like feet. Yeezys and New balances are shaped like feet and look good 👍🏾
been wearing dunks a long time but finally pulled the trigger and grabbed some Asics and NBs. and I’m real happy I did. my feet have never been happier.
Kick game so properrrrr ! My Salomon’s have been in daily rotation since I bought them. My 2002r’s have slightly fallen out of my rotation but an amazing sneaker. Infrared 6’s, favorite sneaker of all time man ! Such an amazing conversation ! Great job guys !
I like this podcast the most. So interesting to think about counter-designs to what fashions are in right now. Adidas Tubular pump from the year 1991 was my favourite technical sneaker when i was 11 years old. Really want Adidas to bring back the OG 1991 version in the different 3 colour ways.
Comfort is key, but I also think people are smarter with their money. How many times we've spent 150-200 on Nike/Jordan to get a pair covered in glue but with new balance I've never had a that problem.
57:06 The 2002r were probably one of the first mesh runners shoe that got a huge popularity. But now people are looking into the 1906r, 860v2, and especially the 530 that everyone are hunting to get their hands on. They are all super comfortable as well.
TNs & ASICS are to Australian sneaker heads what JORDANS & DUNKS are to American sneaker heads, always have been. Only difference is we’ve been on that for years aswell as Js & Dunks. I have over 60pairs of TNs & 10-15 ASICS on top of Jordan’s & dunks but much prefer TNs/ASICS due to comfortability & CWs
@@hamgil “eshay” means yes, proves your age & ‘knowledge’ of a subculture. Been a searcher & collecting TNs long before that was even a word cuz. Humble yourself.
Both GT-21xx and 860v2 (and its 767, 768 predecessors) were legit stability running shoes in early 2000's just like the Kayano. They were upper mid level running shoes. They were never trendy or worn for fashion. I was still wearing my 860v2 I bought from 2012 until last year and was surprised when I found them on NB website for sale.
Shout out BIG JLP with the Oregon Trail game recall. Definitely a great game. Looked forward to computer class in 7th grade only because of that game. 😂
ALD 860s too niche to blowup like the 550s. As long as street wear brands keep coming up with clean cws and design, i can see the mesh runners coming in and out of fashions trends. Kith 1130s go so hard tho 🔥
38:26 I work at New Balance, I have notice that a lot of young adults even early teenagers are even considering buying 608s, 618s, 928s, 847s those training/running shoe that are labeled as Dad shoes. I think a lot of people are starting to choose comfortably and stability even if that means paying a slightly higher price on shoes like New Balance. But 608s are one of New balance selling shoes alongside their Made in USA products just like Welty mentioned.
Welty Knows his NB I’m Adidas boost comfort fan since 2014 but last year after I tried the NB 2002r made me buy a couple of pairs so comfy and better looking for my age 😅
I was working at sports authority/oshmans in high school when the Kayano 14 came out. I was rocking those and the nimbus heavy! And I was far from cross country runner type. The comfort was unmatched. I remember lots of people on the sole collector forums also rocking. Welty you don’t know all. 😅
If Welty is ever going to tell a story, nothing will stop that story being told. 😂 no matter how many times he has to start, he WILL get through the full event 😂
I think that the new balance 550 craze came from the rise of dunks and sbs(much of which can be attributed to Travis and panda hype). And as a dunk being your first sneaker head shoe your going to want something more comfortable after that and the 550 was the halfway house so to speak for rocking more comfortable sneakers. A lot of the 550 wearers are onto other NBs or ASICS now. Part of it also is the amount of trend hoppers; they aren’t into kicks so they just hop from whatever was popular to the new thing to stay in the now. My sneakerhead friends and I were rocking Monarchs in an attempt at counter culture back in ‘10-‘14, we even rocked 999s, Gel Lyte 3s, Bodega collabs, and SBs(Shanghai 2s, Tiffs, DeLas, Newcastle). Back then much like now I was always looking for shoes I knew no one else would have on.
That’s why I rock NBs and ASICS to separate me from these fashion victims wearing dunks and AJ1s.. like everyone you see wear Jordan 1s and those hideous panda dunks..But I do have some forums and air max 1 on my rotation which I still love..
To me, dad shoes and retro runners are different. Chunky aesthetic shoes like Monarchs, 608s, to Wave Runners, 990s, etc are more dad shoe. Kayano 14s, 860v2, 1906s, Triumph 4s, etc are more retro runners. More of the slimmer mesh based shoes. I don't put them in the same category. Similar but different. I'm here for them.
The waverunner and the triple S are what I think of first when people were first calling thing dad shoes in fashion/pop culture. I know that’s not the true genesis of the term. But I’m 2017, in the context of streetwear/fashion it was wave runner and then lots of chunky copycats. Not NB (on mass appeal scale) until a few years later.
59:27 Like Welty, Joe, and Brendan mention everyone is becoming more active so therefore everyone wants to buy the most comfortable and performance running shoe they can get. I notice a lot of people are starting to buy more New Balance 1080s, 880s, 860s and More v4s for their daily walking shoes due to its sock like fabric material.
1:00:42 what’s wrong with Disruptors tho? I’ve been in college for 3 years and they’ve been my daily driver since basically day one. They provide decent comfort and they’re easy to slip on and off even when relatively loosely laced. I have however been considering switching to a pair of 1130s tho
Do you see certain current performance shoes will be retroed a number of years from now that includes current technology like higher stack or plated shoes?
After Yeezy left I feel like New balance took the 2nd place in the sneaker game behind Nike. Nike has a deep catalogue of early 2000’s dad runners too so idk why they don’t release more
Worth mentioning the continued frustration of missing on the SNKRS app resorting to loss of loyalty to their brand and a willingness to go elsewhere for footwear
Brendan, we’re about the same age but lets be honest about dad shoes. In the early 2000s, hs especially, the kids who wore “dad” shoes were straight up nerds lol. They all wore the super technical cross training sneakers. All the cool kids were wearing air forces, phat farms, shox, retro ajs, and bootleg ajs 😂. Athletes wore whatever was appropriate to their sport or airmaxs. Thanks to our boy Kanye, ofc i ,like everyone else, fell for the hype when the waverunners dropped 😅
Welty is not wrong about the Gel Asics in Australia. In primary and secondary school we'd use to wear them lots during P.E. and they were seen as acceptable. I wear them still doing cause they're sturdy.
The reason these shoes are in fashion now is because kids these days are dressing in 90s/early 00 style - Back in the day if you had a pair of those mesh panel runners you were just poor and couldn't afford anything better, they were never a fashion statement back then. But because those shoes are so iconic to the time period that is in fashion once again, kids are gravitating towards them. It's also a case of "constantly trying to find the new trend and stand out from everyone else" - Most of those runners look so terrible that they've never been in style, so now people are creating style around them to find some originality and mold breaking in their own look against what's currently in
I got introduced to hoka shoes after a torn foot tendon and needed a shoe to relieve pain off my toes and hoka shoes will out do any shoe in comfort reason why they are on a lot of people feet.
Dad shoes are comfortable. As you get older you realize a lot of shoes are not comfortable, even if they look good. New Balance has done an amazing job of taking comfortable shoes and letting designers get creative with colors and materials.
I dont get why shoes arent the shape of feet…..
@@christopherrodriguez9514Yep that’s a big reason Yeezy took off as it did. Jordan’s just DON’T feel right because they’re not shaped like feet. Yeezys and New balances are shaped like feet and look good 👍🏾
Asics too
You nailed it , just turned 29 of the past year I’ve been eyeing running shoes more , I got the NB Vongo 6 and the ASICS cumulus 25
Welty been killing it lately on the podcast.
Welty is the personification of evil.
…he may in fact be the Antichrist.
Come for joe, stay for welt. These is facts
Can we give the man his own show already
@@mattkaminski1832 How long have you been worshiping Satan?
After he dropped the hat he never wore a hat again
Thanks, Joe! The Bear is the best show of 2023! Also, yes I notice everyones shoes nowadays, thanks to you guys.
this podcast is so for the culture love tuning in!
Shouts out to Welty for not being ashamed of his faith but also not pushing it on the viewers, great show.
I need those lol
been wearing dunks a long time but finally pulled the trigger and grabbed some Asics and NBs. and I’m real happy I did. my feet have never been happier.
Hey!
Which NBs did you get?
Welty dropping the knowledge as always 🙌🏾
Absolutely!
New balance went from dad shoe. To, i see why my dad wore this shoe.
I love waking up to complex sneaker podcast on Friday mornings
Nothing matches that feeling!
Kick game so properrrrr ! My Salomon’s have been in daily rotation since I bought them. My 2002r’s have slightly fallen out of my rotation but an amazing sneaker. Infrared 6’s, favorite sneaker of all time man !
Such an amazing conversation !
Great job guys !
I think the raf simons ozweegos were the first to bring the dad shoe hype to the newer gen and the new era. 2013/2014 ish if I’m not mistaken
History repeats, late 90s the sneaker game went through this.. Saucony, Asics, NBs...
i was born in the late '90s didn't see it but you're not the first person i've heard say this
Also - new Asics Skateboarding line that just dropped is pretty sick. Would love to hear y'alls take
I like this podcast the most. So interesting to think about counter-designs to what fashions are in right now. Adidas Tubular pump from the year 1991 was my favourite technical sneaker when i was 11 years old. Really want Adidas to bring back the OG 1991 version in the different 3 colour ways.
Comfort is key, but I also think people are smarter with their money. How many times we've spent 150-200 on Nike/Jordan to get a pair covered in glue but with new balance I've never had a that problem.
Welty delivering insight after insight, in the zone!
We went from Nike basketball to Nmds to element 87/ waffles to dad shoes to dunks to mesh runners. So interesting to see how the culture changes
57:06 The 2002r were probably one of the first mesh runners shoe that got a huge popularity. But now people are looking into the 1906r, 860v2, and especially the 530 that everyone are hunting to get their hands on. They are all super comfortable as well.
Weltys favorite topic
😂
To each their own
the designers themselves are getting older and want comfort so makes sense they work on things like NB and Asics
Since I'm from DC we been wearing dad shoes since the 80's.
I've leaned into the Dad shoes for years. They've always been dope!
TNs & ASICS are to Australian sneaker heads what JORDANS & DUNKS are to American sneaker heads, always have been. Only difference is we’ve been on that for years aswell as Js & Dunks. I have over 60pairs of TNs & 10-15 ASICS on top of Jordan’s & dunks but much prefer TNs/ASICS due to comfortability & CWs
Nah TNs are usually associated with eshays and dropkicks so most people avoid them tbh.
@@hamgil “eshay” means yes, proves your age & ‘knowledge’ of a subculture. Been a searcher & collecting TNs long before that was even a word cuz. Humble yourself.
Welty needs his own show!
Both GT-21xx and 860v2 (and its 767, 768 predecessors) were legit stability running shoes in early 2000's just like the Kayano. They were upper mid level running shoes. They were never trendy or worn for fashion. I was still wearing my 860v2 I bought from 2012 until last year and was surprised when I found them on NB website for sale.
We got more jesus t shirts for you Welty
I think the pod needs to update the whats on feet section to a full fit, I need to know where some of these fire garments are from!
Best beach shoe? Gotta go with the Nike boat shoes.
Does anyone know the name of the Nike boat shoes?
I saw the shoe on Marcus from the Bear. I ain't leaving you hanging Joe! 😄
Shout out BIG JLP with the Oregon Trail game recall. Definitely a great game. Looked forward to computer class in 7th grade only because of that game. 😂
Great conversations and topics.
Amazing episode! So much knowledge being dropped from different perspectives
ALD 860s too niche to blowup like the 550s.
As long as street wear brands keep coming up with clean cws and design, i can see the mesh runners coming in and out of fashions trends. Kith 1130s go so hard tho 🔥
cheers for a fire ep as always! good friday vibes
how they ignore kikos work on the knit asics is insane TALK ABOUT KIKO
The NB 530 is EVERYWHERE in the UK right now!
More style than Monarchs is why imo and 5 bucks cheaper atm.
38:26 I work at New Balance, I have notice that a lot of young adults even early teenagers are even considering buying 608s, 618s, 928s, 847s those training/running shoe that are labeled as Dad shoes. I think a lot of people are starting to choose comfortably and stability even if that means paying a slightly higher price on shoes like New Balance. But 608s are one of New balance selling shoes alongside their Made in USA products just like Welty mentioned.
Welty Knows his NB I’m Adidas boost comfort fan since 2014 but last year after I tried the NB 2002r made me buy a couple of pairs so comfy and better looking for my age 😅
I was working at sports authority/oshmans in high school when the Kayano 14 came out. I was rocking those and the nimbus heavy!
And I was far from cross country runner type. The comfort was unmatched. I remember lots of people on the sole collector forums also rocking. Welty you don’t know all. 😅
La puma.. I too caught that scene from the bear.. Absolutely fire!
If Welty is ever going to tell a story, nothing will stop that story being told. 😂 no matter how many times he has to start, he WILL get through the full event 😂
JLP, Lionel's character wearing a pair of 990v1s in Copenhagen was heat too
Welty -not so- lowkey defending whoever gifts him shoes. We see you, sir.
JLP great tidbit. Def more to explore on The Bear and the fashion they’ve brought into the show 🔥🔥
That “functional” thing Welty mentioned around 1:02/1:03 mark coincides with the GORPCORE thing happening now
You know Dunne had that backpack on wheels.
Fr dudes a nerd 🤓
I think that the new balance 550 craze came from the rise of dunks and sbs(much of which can be attributed to Travis and panda hype). And as a dunk being your first sneaker head shoe your going to want something more comfortable after that and the 550 was the halfway house so to speak for rocking more comfortable sneakers. A lot of the 550 wearers are onto other NBs or ASICS now. Part of it also is the amount of trend hoppers; they aren’t into kicks so they just hop from whatever was popular to the new thing to stay in the now.
My sneakerhead friends and I were rocking Monarchs in an attempt at counter culture back in ‘10-‘14, we even rocked 999s, Gel Lyte 3s, Bodega collabs, and SBs(Shanghai 2s, Tiffs, DeLas, Newcastle). Back then much like now I was always looking for shoes I knew no one else would have on.
That’s why I rock NBs and ASICS to separate me from these fashion victims wearing dunks and AJ1s.. like everyone you see wear Jordan 1s and those hideous panda dunks..But I do have some forums and air max 1 on my rotation which I still love..
Can't be mad at the forums 👌
To me, dad shoes and retro runners are different. Chunky aesthetic shoes like Monarchs, 608s, to Wave Runners, 990s, etc are more dad shoe. Kayano 14s, 860v2, 1906s, Triumph 4s, etc are more retro runners. More of the slimmer mesh based shoes.
I don't put them in the same category. Similar but different. I'm here for them.
i think the Monarchs, 608s, Salomons, & Hokas of the world are the TRUE "dad shoes" & the 990 series are retro runners but other than that i agree
The waverunner and the triple S are what I think of first when people were first calling thing dad shoes in fashion/pop culture. I know that’s not the true genesis of the term. But I’m 2017, in the context of streetwear/fashion it was wave runner and then lots of chunky copycats. Not NB (on mass appeal scale) until a few years later.
Exactly what I was thinking, the waverunner and triple s is what I think of when I hear people talk about the start of the dad shoe.
Props to whoever edits these that intro was smooth af
I'm literally wearing pink and purple Asics Gel kayano 22s while I'm watching this podcast
LL Bean flagship shoutout is crazy! Mainer here
what a timing to talk about Teddy pushing the 860v2 just a few days before it happens
That Anders episode is still my favorite
Even though Welty wears fake kicks, he has good points sometimes.
Made in UK 991 🔥🏆💰
29:44 those are some nice white socks Welty got on
Hehe I have the jjjjounds and ALDs. I knew they would be hits😊
59:27 Like Welty, Joe, and Brendan mention everyone is becoming more active so therefore everyone wants to buy the most comfortable and performance running shoe they can get. I notice a lot of people are starting to buy more New Balance 1080s, 880s, 860s and More v4s for their daily walking shoes due to its sock like fabric material.
I been wearing my new balance 9060 beef & broccoli this summer I love em
1:00:42 what’s wrong with Disruptors tho? I’ve been in college for 3 years and they’ve been my daily driver since basically day one. They provide decent comfort and they’re easy to slip on and off even when relatively loosely laced. I have however been considering switching to a pair of 1130s tho
this is now officially the matt welty podcast.
nice talk. ANNND other brands also like Crocs?(i know we talk about only sneakers...) crocs has now so many designers collab.
Roger Federer in the podcast will be a dream
Im not an airforce 1 guy... I'm here for them Terror Squad AF1!
Yes watching The Bear 🐻 1:00:30 👏🏻👏🏻
Welty has this show on his back now.
Great show and perspective on the return of the mesh performance shoes! 😄
Do you see certain current performance shoes will be retroed a number of years from now that includes current technology like higher stack or plated shoes?
Yo when JLP wanted to dress Welty up for the New bs Jersey city release was hilarious
My dad don’t wear dad shoes, so I guess I’ll wear em for him.
My Nike Woven footscape skull pack are still comfy but my 360 bubble is cloudy. How can I fix if fixable.
After Yeezy left I feel like New balance took the 2nd place in the sneaker game behind Nike. Nike has a deep catalogue of early 2000’s dad runners too so idk why they don’t release more
I started drinking those polar drinks Welty drinks. They are awesome 👌
Marcus and Sydney are the freshest characters of the show
The BEAR when I saw that ep. and him wearing the 6s I was like to my wife 👉🏽🔥🔥 I had to wear mine the next day.
I NEED those action Bronson baklava 1906!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have no interest in shoes but I watch this loyally
35:32
I have the 2016 990v4
Crazy ive had em so long. Still in great condition. Made in usa.
vans amazon pacu would be perfect for walking on beach
Has anyone counted how many times Welty says "LIKE" in an episode? Must be some kind of Guinness World Record opportunity right there?
1:07:16 the number one ranked tennis player Iga Swaitek also looks like she’s sponsored by ON - that’s all she wore at Wimbledon.
Joe I just wanted to let you know that I feel you with the J6 story
Genuine question, what does Welty have against Nike?
THE BEAR IS THE BEST SERIES RIGHT NOW
Big The 🐻 fan, thanks Joe
Worth mentioning the continued frustration of missing on the SNKRS app resorting to loss of loyalty to their brand and a willingness to go elsewhere for footwear
ALD Has the best loyalty program.
Brendan, we’re about the same age but lets be honest about dad shoes. In the early 2000s, hs especially, the kids who wore “dad” shoes were straight up nerds lol. They all wore the super technical cross training sneakers. All the cool kids were wearing air forces, phat farms, shox, retro ajs, and bootleg ajs 😂. Athletes wore whatever was appropriate to their sport or airmaxs.
Thanks to our boy Kanye, ofc i ,like everyone else, fell for the hype when the waverunners dropped 😅
who made brendan dunne's shirt? Or what's the brand?
saloman index 1.0 are wide, I love working out in em
17:41 did we forget about the Jordan Futures!?
Welty is not wrong about the Gel Asics in Australia. In primary and secondary school we'd use to wear them lots during P.E. and they were seen as acceptable. I wear them still doing cause they're sturdy.
i tell you this whelty this union will be surely the most used because price will not skydrop and people will rock it
The reason these shoes are in fashion now is because kids these days are dressing in 90s/early 00 style - Back in the day if you had a pair of those mesh panel runners you were just poor and couldn't afford anything better, they were never a fashion statement back then.
But because those shoes are so iconic to the time period that is in fashion once again, kids are gravitating towards them. It's also a case of "constantly trying to find the new trend and stand out from everyone else" - Most of those runners look so terrible that they've never been in style, so now people are creating style around them to find some originality and mold breaking in their own look against what's currently in
I got introduced to hoka shoes after a torn foot tendon and needed a shoe to relieve pain off my toes and hoka shoes will out do any shoe in comfort reason why they are on a lot of people feet.
First time I agree with Welty that the union would have been better as a low top
Footscapes def had a wave. There is a big Facebook group that’s been around fir over a decade now.
Please get Roger on the show, his ON line is actually sick