Thanks for the video. I’m gonna take a second look at the GRE. I took practice tests for both and liked gmat a little better (similar scores for both) but I’m not sure I can hit the average in time for GSB round 3. I toured them last weekend and fell in love with the program. Shot in the dark but I have a really unique background and wanna give it a go. Thanks for the videos!!!
@@CareerProtocol Thanks again for the video! Just scored a GRE 326 (159Q 167v) Makes sense cuz I’m an English major. Not sure if adcoms will be more or less critical of my quant score because my background is in humanities but I’ll take it one more time in 3 weeks and see if I can bump it up a few points. ❤️
The average GRE of students at a given school still to date has LESS impact on the school's overall rank in the ranking lists than the average GMAT does. That means they can afford to have a lower average GRE, which means they can afford to admit people who are otherwise strong but have weaker GRE scores. They have to be a bit more judicious around GMAT scores because of this rankings issue despite the fact that they know (or should know) that the GMAT is not a good predictor of post-MBA success. This article: careerprotocol.com/gmat-gre-converter/ (though not yet updated for the new tests) makes this point very clear in the data.
Hi Angela, what is the advantage of taking the GMAT if you believe you are a good test taker? Because it looks like a riskier option and you never really know how good you are until you’ve put in some hours of study and done some mock tests… Thank you!
Hi Raquel! In our experience, study and practice will help you add around 100 points to your GMAT (this held for the old version, and we expect similar for the new - there's just not much data yet), so if you take a practice test out the gate (free on their website!) it should give you a clue on where you're likely to end up if you were to commit yourself. The advantage is that schools want the highest average possible so prefer to admit candidates with higher GMATs. For good test takers, this increases their chance of getting in.
Hi, Is it same for all graduate programs that require a GMAT/GRE score or is the ranking thing only for MBAs? I'm trying to apply for master degrees in accounting and I have to choose between one. And thanks for the video!
Hi Angela! I have been prepping for the GMAT for the last 2 months and got 625FE (680 on classic) in the official exam and 700 on mocks with verbal being the highest and quant being the lowest. I want to apply R2 but want to leave time for application prep. Should I pivot to the GRE (316 completely cold: 155V, 161Q). I’m not great at vocab but think at elite score for GRE might be easier for me, would you agree?
Very tough to say, 2 months is not the outer limit of prep time required to reach one's personal best. I frequently see people study for 3-4 months to hit that target. Take a practice GRE and see how it goes. If the test feels more intuitive to you and your cold test is already pretty high, that might be a sign the GRE is your test. Good luck!
One would think that would depend if the goal is to go into computer science or business! Business school is a tool to get you to where you need to be - so check out the class profile of schools you might be interested in to see where MBAs end up. If your goals align, then an MBA is a great option to accelerate your journey there (depending, of course, on the specifics of your prior experience, network, geography etc.)
@@CareerProtocol Took both GRE and GMAT. In my first year of MBA, just finished a semester and felt I learned nothing. Courses seemed useless. Just applied for Master's in Computer Science at our school and quit MBA. Believe that business knowledge can be found online or through AI like GPT, but foundational Computer Science and Engineering need systematic study. Agree on taking GRE for more options in Science or Engineering-focused Master's programs. Noted MBA costs equal 1.5 to 2 years of Engineering School. Thanks.
@@hhkk2742 thank you so much for leaving a feedback, it made me reconsider a lot. I’m happy you were able to find the right program for you. I’m currently at similar crossroads and would really love to talk privately, of course at your own convenience.
Hey Angela, on that basis, I’ve been struggling with the GMAT for 6 months (stuck at 595). I just took the GRE out of the blue with no prep today and scored a 321 (Q164 V157). 3 months to go to R1, do you think GRE is the way to go here? I only wish I saw this video earlier 😢
Do schools not care about average GRE scores? If yes, then low GRE scores won't work as well right? Just like low GMAT. Also, what is a good GRE and GMAT score respectively?
Hey! Regardless of the reasons for/ against the tests, if you've already committed to one then it wouldn't make sense to switch and undo any prep you might have done if you're already at the average. Best to focus on the rest of your application! A bad GMAT score keeps you out but great essays and interviews will be the things that get you in
Hi Angela, this is Biraj from Nepal, just gave my IELTS, and now planning to study MBAn @usa, and luckily i found this video, will subscrbe the channel, big thanks. Anyways, does GRE has the same impact on MBAn?, like you mentioned for MBA in the video.
Wherever a school asks for standardized test scores, they will care about it as a measure of your abilities. In the case FT MBA programs they also have to monitor their averages for the rankings. Alternative programs have less pressure from rankings, so the primary use is to calibrate your abilities.
Ignore the suggestion in the video that it is still January. It is, in fact, March. You slept through February, sorry 🤷
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Thanks for the video. I’m gonna take a second look at the GRE. I took practice tests for both and liked gmat a little better (similar scores for both) but I’m not sure I can hit the average in time for GSB round 3. I toured them last weekend and fell in love with the program. Shot in the dark but I have a really unique background and wanna give it a go. Thanks for the videos!!!
Thank you Russell! Definitely give it a shot - good luck!!
@@CareerProtocol Thanks again for the video! Just scored a GRE 326 (159Q 167v) Makes sense cuz I’m an English major. Not sure if adcoms will be more or less critical of my quant score because my background is in humanities but I’ll take it one more time in 3 weeks and see if I can bump it up a few points. ❤️
wow thank you so much for this amazing advice, appreciate it a lot ♥♥♥ wish I had seen this earlier.. Thank you so much
Why do schools not have to manage their average GRE?
The average GRE of students at a given school still to date has LESS impact on the school's overall rank in the ranking lists than the average GMAT does. That means they can afford to have a lower average GRE, which means they can afford to admit people who are otherwise strong but have weaker GRE scores. They have to be a bit more judicious around GMAT scores because of this rankings issue despite the fact that they know (or should know) that the GMAT is not a good predictor of post-MBA success. This article: careerprotocol.com/gmat-gre-converter/ (though not yet updated for the new tests) makes this point very clear in the data.
Hi Angela, what is the advantage of taking the GMAT if you believe you are a good test taker? Because it looks like a riskier option and you never really know how good you are until you’ve put in some hours of study and done some mock tests… Thank you!
Hi Raquel! In our experience, study and practice will help you add around 100 points to your GMAT (this held for the old version, and we expect similar for the new - there's just not much data yet), so if you take a practice test out the gate (free on their website!) it should give you a clue on where you're likely to end up if you were to commit yourself.
The advantage is that schools want the highest average possible so prefer to admit candidates with higher GMATs. For good test takers, this increases their chance of getting in.
Hi, Is it same for all graduate programs that require a GMAT/GRE score or is the ranking thing only for MBAs? I'm trying to apply for master degrees in accounting and I have to choose between one. And thanks for the video!
Hi Angela! I have been prepping for the GMAT for the last 2 months and got 625FE (680 on classic) in the official exam and 700 on mocks with verbal being the highest and quant being the lowest. I want to apply R2 but want to leave time for application prep. Should I pivot to the GRE (316 completely cold: 155V, 161Q). I’m not great at vocab but think at elite score for GRE might be easier for me, would you agree?
Very tough to say, 2 months is not the outer limit of prep time required to reach one's personal best. I frequently see people study for 3-4 months to hit that target. Take a practice GRE and see how it goes. If the test feels more intuitive to you and your cold test is already pretty high, that might be a sign the GRE is your test. Good luck!
would it be more valuable to take computer science boot camp or masters than MBAs in these days?
One would think that would depend if the goal is to go into computer science or business! Business school is a tool to get you to where you need to be - so check out the class profile of schools you might be interested in to see where MBAs end up. If your goals align, then an MBA is a great option to accelerate your journey there (depending, of course, on the specifics of your prior experience, network, geography etc.)
@@CareerProtocol Took both GRE and GMAT. In my first year of MBA, just finished a semester and felt I learned nothing. Courses seemed useless. Just applied for Master's in Computer Science at our school and quit MBA. Believe that business knowledge can be found online or through AI like GPT, but foundational Computer Science and Engineering need systematic study. Agree on taking GRE for more options in Science or Engineering-focused Master's programs. Noted MBA costs equal 1.5 to 2 years of Engineering School. Thanks.
@@hhkk2742 thank you so much for leaving a feedback, it made me reconsider a lot. I’m happy you were able to find the right program for you.
I’m currently at similar crossroads and would really love to talk privately, of course at your own convenience.
Hey Angela, on that basis, I’ve been struggling with the GMAT for 6 months (stuck at 595). I just took the GRE out of the blue with no prep today and scored a 321 (Q164 V157). 3 months to go to R1, do you think GRE is the way to go here? I only wish I saw this video earlier 😢
Sounds like GRE to me!! Good luck!
Do schools not care about average GRE scores? If yes, then low GRE scores won't work as well right? Just like low GMAT. Also, what is a good GRE and GMAT score respectively?
They do care about the GRE, but not as much. Check the average test scores at the schools you are applying to. That is the score to aim for or beyond.
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Should I take the GRE even if I hit the exact GMAT average of my target MBA program?
Hey! Regardless of the reasons for/ against the tests, if you've already committed to one then it wouldn't make sense to switch and undo any prep you might have done if you're already at the average. Best to focus on the rest of your application! A bad GMAT score keeps you out but great essays and interviews will be the things that get you in
I have plateued my score in GMAT mocks 610-620 but got 311 (162 Q 149 V) on Kaplan cold mock of GRE. Which test to take ??
GRE 100%.
Thanks for the information @@CareerProtocol
Hi Angela, this is Biraj from Nepal, just gave my IELTS, and now planning to study MBAn @usa, and luckily i found this video, will subscrbe the channel, big thanks. Anyways, does GRE has the same impact on MBAn?, like you mentioned for MBA in the video.
Wherever a school asks for standardized test scores, they will care about it as a measure of your abilities. In the case FT MBA programs they also have to monitor their averages for the rankings. Alternative programs have less pressure from rankings, so the primary use is to calibrate your abilities.