Eisenhower WRC-TV 1958 (oldest known colour videotaping)

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  • @Muonium1
    @Muonium1 13 лет назад +166

    I'm SHOCKED at how high the quality of both the color and sharpness of this video is. It's practically indistinguishable from common broadcast quality of the mid-80s. Incredible.

    • @The_DuMont_Network
      @The_DuMont_Network 3 года назад +21

      We used these tube cameras into the 80s. The cameras used in this video were the RCA TK-4X series (Could have been a TK-40 but likely a TK-41) cameras using hand selected Image Orthicons.
      Cameras weighs over 250 pounds. The viewfinder itself was over 75 pounds. I used to have to carry those bastards around golf courses, up and down stadiums and on and on. Cable weighed over a pound a foot. The cameras required a complete 88 inch equipment rack for the support electronics. Could take over an hour to set them up, AFTER warming up for an hour. But a good video operator could make some gorgeous pictures. If he had enough light. Lots of light. Lots and Lots of Light...
      Them was the days!
      Google RCA TK-41, and RCA TRT-1.
      www.oldradio.com/archives/hardware/TV/RCA-TV.htm#q3
      Oldradio.com is a wonderful archive of all hings radio and TV.

    • @eg3730
      @eg3730 Год назад

      Wonderment! E

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 9 месяцев назад

      That's because it's the same video format with the same bandwidth.

    • @td3993
      @td3993 5 месяцев назад

      Broadcast quality was far better than this. This is rather blurry, but it is off of an early magnetic tape. The capabilities of the tri-color tube cameras were, however, remarkable, both then, and later in the 80s. You can see the stunning results in color episodes of the Ed Sullivan Show, etc., and a very broad color gamut, far broader than televisions and the 60s and onward could reproduce, since they switch to brighter, paler phosphors as compared to those used in the first 1953 televisions.

    • @gooseknack
      @gooseknack Месяц назад +1

      ​@@td3993it's also likely the Ampex video machine they used for the transfer, may have been showing its age.
      It's would also be at the old NTSC visual resolution of 480 lines. It's bound to look a little unshared watching it on modern tech, especially a larger screen.

  • @ezHiker35
    @ezHiker35 10 лет назад +302

    Fascinating to watch. The video quality they achieved in 1958 is incredible. Aside from it not being high definition, it looks like a live broadcast.

    • @brig.4398
      @brig.4398 10 лет назад +7

      If you have ever watched and old Zentih tv they have a pretty amazing picture, the color is very beautiful.

    • @HBC101TVStudios
      @HBC101TVStudios 9 лет назад +5

      +Bri G. Beautiful? What about NTSC then? NTSC is not beautiful at all, it is twice as worst as SECAM. That's why people called NTSC as "Never Twice the Same Color" due to it's failure in controlling and auto-correcting the hues in the pictures.

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 5 лет назад +7

      @@HBC101TVStudios They call SECAM "System Extremely Crappy And Miserable".
      PAL is your pal.

    • @jmdocs
      @jmdocs 2 года назад +3

      The perfect is the enemy of the good

    • @fairussukarno1400
      @fairussukarno1400 2 года назад

      And no extreme phase error like PAL

  • @JimRockford853
    @JimRockford853 10 лет назад +1313

    This looks more like the late 1980s film than 1958

    • @rjmcallister1888
      @rjmcallister1888 7 лет назад +162

      It's on videotape. Most TV stations stopped shooting film by 1978.

    • @MaximRecoil
      @MaximRecoil 7 лет назад +125

      That's because it was recorded on Quad, which is a very high quality 2" videotape format that was still being used into the 1980s. Smaller cassette-based formats with 1/2" tape weren't able to equal the picture quality of Quad until Betacam SP came along in 1986 (not to be confused with Betamax, which was a consumer format introduced in 1975, and which had poor picture quality).

    • @johnalanelson
      @johnalanelson 7 лет назад +50

      Eisenhower was long dead by 1980!

    • @DiscoBallGaming
      @DiscoBallGaming 6 лет назад +10

      Monty Burns but those beautiful cars

    • @MaurineGoodyear
      @MaurineGoodyear 6 лет назад +3

      Monty Burns I know right. I find it fscinatong.

  • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
    @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 8 лет назад +610

    I bet all the people with B&W TVs were very confused while watching this.

    • @retrogamelord3763
      @retrogamelord3763 8 лет назад +66

      maccollectorZ (Commenting Account) "WHY ISN'T IT IN COLOR?!?!?!?"

    • @digitalleft9250
      @digitalleft9250 7 лет назад +24

      B&W TV would display B&W, right?

    • @asdfasdf4345artsdfg
      @asdfasdf4345artsdfg 7 лет назад +65

      Actually, I read that color TV had first been introduced a couple years prior; so, I'm sure people with B&W TVs knew that they were missing something.

    • @KobraKai69
      @KobraKai69 7 лет назад +25

      I was watching this on my BBW and we were both surprised.

    • @johnaddeo2251
      @johnaddeo2251 7 лет назад +36

      It drove my grandfather over the edge. I remember him screeching, flailing his arms and running towards the living room windows. I watched in stunned disbelief as he dove headlong right through it and fell five floors to his death. I think he just hated Eisenhower.

  • @endrightwinglunacy
    @endrightwinglunacy 9 лет назад +157

    I love videotape. It has that 'live' quality, even here from the 50s.

    • @NoobGamer-ix2mr
      @NoobGamer-ix2mr 7 лет назад +3

      Try watching 60 fps videos

    • @gordonm7038
      @gordonm7038 7 лет назад +4

      ReturnoftheBrotha
      Showscan invented by special effects genius Douglas Trumbull is 65mm 60fps.
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showscan
      It never really took off. It makes sense to shoot at 50 or more fps for 65mm to compliment the resolution.

    • @turboflamez161
      @turboflamez161 5 лет назад +5

      Early sitcoms (like Dad's Army here in the UK) give a very good example of the difference between film and tape. Any scenes outside are on film, whereas the studio scenes are on tape. The difference when they go outside is very noticeable!

    • @tomservo5007
      @tomservo5007 4 года назад +2

      I hate videotape -- have you seen the original Twilight Zone episodes when they switched to video ? It took 3-4 episodes before they went back to film

    • @joes9954
      @joes9954 4 года назад +2

      Tom Servo Blame CBS for trying to cut costs when the show went over budget. They didn’t end up saving all that much and thankfully went back to film.

  • @brycelandon6387
    @brycelandon6387 6 лет назад +224

    As a Kansas native, I am so proud of the things Dwight D. Eisenhower accomplished in his lifetime!

    • @johnwesleyhuss2327
      @johnwesleyhuss2327 3 года назад +7

      Yessir! #wearekansas

    • @SpeedyWings2323
      @SpeedyWings2323 3 года назад +3

      Wasn’t he a Kansas native and lived in Texas?

    • @SpeedyWings2323
      @SpeedyWings2323 2 года назад +7

      @@Squeaky_Pig he was born in Texas and lived in Kansas for most of his life and he considered it his home, so he is a Texan born who became a Kansas native. Let’s just be proud he was both and loved both

    • @nick56677
      @nick56677 2 года назад +11

      Eisenhower is a very underrated president. He made the Fabulous Fifties

    • @williamturner1517
      @williamturner1517 2 года назад +4

      The last, truly great leader this country had. Since, IKE we have endured a parade of low class politicians.

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts 9 лет назад +262

    Wow! Not only Eisenhower on video, but freakin' color video!! Blows my mind...

    • @DreitTheDarkDragon
      @DreitTheDarkDragon 4 года назад +5

      Check out British Pathé, you can find really old videos here. I was surprised to see even Edison o.o

    • @LauritzenLucas
      @LauritzenLucas 3 года назад +2

      This video is super high quality too, the framerate is pretty high.

    • @tacoman6485
      @tacoman6485 3 года назад +1

      Better frame rate than cyberpunk

    • @HailAnts
      @HailAnts 3 года назад

      @@DreitTheDarkDragon - Edison died in 1931, that’s long before videotape..

    • @UnitedStates17
      @UnitedStates17 3 года назад +1

      @@HailAnts we have videos from the 1890s.

  • @coffeehigh420
    @coffeehigh420 10 лет назад +673

    i think the president is so captivated by seeing himself in color on tv, that he cannot stop looking at it, so he seems very distracted through most of his speech!

    • @delreycustomshop7624
      @delreycustomshop7624 4 года назад +48

      I don't think he's distracted, but struggling to read the teleprompter.

    • @paulymac5513
      @paulymac5513 3 года назад +6

      If "Monk" was watching this he would say his tie is a little crooked.

    • @MrCubFan415
      @MrCubFan415 3 года назад +7

      @@delreycustomshop7624 did they have teleprompters at that point or were they still using cue cards?

    • @nidurnevets
      @nidurnevets 3 года назад +11

      @@MrCubFan415 Teleprompters were invented in 1950.

    • @KennyVeritas
      @KennyVeritas 2 года назад +7

      @@delreycustomshop7624 yeah Presidents have been using teleprompters for a very long time. And before that it was just paper on the desk 😂

  • @LampoonGoon
    @LampoonGoon 8 лет назад +169

    LOL!!!! 1:40 Eisenhower looking at Sarnoff like, "I wanted to press the goddamn button. I'm the President."

    • @dsbeerf
      @dsbeerf 7 лет назад

      Nicholas Smith Sarnoff was an evil, evil man. imho.

    • @lordsnivyofnottingham2948
      @lordsnivyofnottingham2948 5 лет назад +14

      Why didn't he? If they are going to go through the trouble of bringing the President, why shouldn't he have the honour of pushing the button?

    • @sillygoose635
      @sillygoose635 4 года назад

      @@dsbeerf lol, no

    • @pjhoody
      @pjhoody 4 года назад

      Jim Benn why is that?

    • @Bigclifton
      @Bigclifton 4 года назад +1

      Nahh lol. He was probably still trying to take in and understand all of the new technology he had seen on that day.

  • @jec1ny
    @jec1ny 4 года назад +75

    I wish Eisenhower were president today. Good man, solid, moderate in his politics, didn't treat people with different ideas as the enemy. He got things done with very little drama.

    • @mohameddiaby835
      @mohameddiaby835 2 года назад

      Well, I hope admiral Bill McRaven runs for president, some day.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 2 года назад

      importance of cod liver oil shows..

  • @cblizz730
    @cblizz730 9 лет назад +198

    the video quality looks very good maybe late 70's look, but the audio still has that 60's sound.

    • @ezHiker35
      @ezHiker35 8 лет назад +28

      +cblizz7301 I believe the "60's sound" was because it was being sent over microwave relay to Burbank to be recorded to videotape. In those days the coast-to-coast TV network feeds had a limit on the high frequencies for audio.

    • @rjmcallister1888
      @rjmcallister1888 7 лет назад +4

      Being 1958, it was probably being sent over AT&T Long Lines, since most affiliates did not yet have other capabilities, and early satellite was still a few years off.

    • @lilpontoon6022
      @lilpontoon6022 7 лет назад +4

      Bought some Bose earbuds. It sounds perfect

    • @mspysu79
      @mspysu79 5 лет назад +3

      That is "Network Audio" with the AT&T Microwave relay network the Audio and video carriers where not multiplexed and the audio was sent over a standard 5 kHz wide channel, which would be the standard until the late 1970's when the networks started the move to satellite distribution with the audio having the full 15 kHz bandwidth of a standard FM broadcast.
      With the AT&T network, you could get 10 or 15 kHz channels "In Town" but not across the entire network, which is how the networks did work in NYC an LA they all had 10 then 15 kHz lines between each other and the independent production studios in town

    • @oldgoody1
      @oldgoody1 5 лет назад +1

      @@mspysu79 Yes and the original 1956 B/W 2" quad VTR captured audio out to 15 kHz. Audio was easy. The video capture at close to broadcast quality was the triumph.

  • @RetroGUY77
    @RetroGUY77 9 лет назад +48

    My grandad went to America in 1956 and was amazed to see colour TV. When he moved back, he didn't get a colour telly until 1974!

    • @donaldfuck
      @donaldfuck 5 лет назад +1

      Italian?

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK 4 года назад +3

      @@donaldfuck
      No, in the UK even though colour TV was available from late 1969, more people paid the black and white licence than the colour licence fee until the end of 1976.

    • @Yetaxa
      @Yetaxa 3 года назад +4

      @@anonUK late 1969 was when bbc1 went to colour
      Other channels began colour broadcast a few years earlier

    • @jorgeneri
      @jorgeneri 2 года назад +1

      "Telly", UK for sure :)

  • @sincopare5795
    @sincopare5795 9 лет назад +234

    Ya gotta remember that when Ike was born, 99% of the country was shitting in a hole in the ground and reading by oil or candlelight.

    • @georgepenton6023
      @georgepenton6023 6 лет назад +18

      Sincopare That is absolutely ridiculous. Your understanding of history is atrocious.

    • @parcivale
      @parcivale 4 года назад +75

      @@georgepenton6023 Ike was born in 1890. At that time, most people lived in the country and used outhouses and the incandescent light bulb wasn't invented until 1897. So, no it's not ridiculous. Your understanding of history is atrocious.

    • @lordsnivyofnottingham2948
      @lordsnivyofnottingham2948 4 года назад +18

      @@parcivale Commercial electricity was already a thing by the 1880s, and the incandescent bulb in 1879.
      Granted, Eisenhower was also born in Texas, and grew-up in Kansas, so the point is still valid.

    • @user-kl4kh3qe4g
      @user-kl4kh3qe4g 4 года назад +1

      @@georgepenton6023 You’re absolutely right!

    • @GURken
      @GURken 3 года назад +6

      @@lordsnivyofnottingham2948 today 10gb internet is a thing but that doesn't mean that 90% of a nation watches youtube in 480p
      these facts that you read on wikipedia doesn't show the whole picture

  • @christianlane4785
    @christianlane4785 2 года назад +16

    Every time I see the Great Generals of WW2, I stand at awe. I am grateful for their distinguished service that helped save this free world.

  • @rockintetster
    @rockintetster 8 лет назад +321

    The switching from BW to color should have been the honor of the president.

    • @jojopuppyfish
      @jojopuppyfish 7 лет назад +52

      It was....the president of NBC (David Sarnoff)

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 6 лет назад +6

      +rerevisionist
      I suppose you are a national socialist.
      Have you not realized that national socialism failed.

    • @a1wireless1964
      @a1wireless1964 5 лет назад +12

      At the time, David Sarnoff probably had as much, if not more power than the president... He was the president of the largest corporation in the world NBC RCA

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 4 года назад

      @tinwoods
      Shut up to what exactly?

    • @Bigclifton
      @Bigclifton 4 года назад

      @@jojopuppyfish Robert Sarnoff

  • @terrytc1
    @terrytc1 4 года назад +30

    Color TV in the US started in a small scale in 1954 but didn't get really going until 1955. By 1956-1957 both NBC and CBS had a good number of color shows. Due to the price of the sets and the fact that the majority of Americans bought their first TV in the early 50's at a hefty price, they saw no reason to quickly replace it. My father took my brother and I to a local TV store in 1956 to see the NBC kids show Howdy Doodie in color which was on around 4pm or 5pm I remember. The US and the world went into recession in 1958 and 1959 which further discouraged color sales and CBS stopped broadcasting color when CBS Columbia company stopped producing sets. It took 6 years for things to turn around.

  • @richartrod
    @richartrod 13 лет назад +41

    Pretty impressive. I've worked in TV and knew a color program "Another Night with Fred Astaire" (1959) has been preserved, but I didn't know an older tape existed. When one considers this program was originating from WRC in Washington and being electronically recorded at NBC Studios in Burbank (KNBC), most likely via coaxial cable or telephone line, on the recently invented videotape format--in 1958--this is truly an incredible technical feat.

  • @QuantumBraced
    @QuantumBraced 3 года назад +21

    It's not just the color, the resolution and clarity are also very impressive. It is proper standard definition.

  • @wravenoak
    @wravenoak 12 лет назад +12

    Great to see Eisenhower in what is almost modern photography!

  • @donclark4685
    @donclark4685 11 лет назад +140

    I was 10 years old at the time of this telecast. It was a very pleasant time in the fifties. Far better than now, that's for sure.

    • @gianniveeful
      @gianniveeful 10 лет назад +15

      Yes it was Don, and how we miss that time, and General Eisenhower.

    • @johnalanelson
      @johnalanelson 7 лет назад +17

      Let's see ... Korean war, McCarthy era, Nuclear bomb scare (get your lead lined shelter today!) , Fidel Castro, Suez crisis ... yeah, those were really great times!

    • @catlover10192
      @catlover10192 7 лет назад +47

      I'm sure it was great if you were a straight, white, a least middle class male, or even a content housewife. Otherwise, not so good.

    • @boxingmmacars23
      @boxingmmacars23 6 лет назад +2

      Damn how old are you bruh

    • @martyzielinski2469
      @martyzielinski2469 6 лет назад +2

      While I have little sympathy for what passes as “civil rights” nowadays, it should be admitted that persons of color were often treated very badly back in those days. And this comment from an angry old white guy who’s supports #45...

  • @LostsTVandRadio
    @LostsTVandRadio 3 года назад +55

    Of the two tapes made of this historic event, the first was poorly preserved and when an attempt was made to play it by archivists only the audio could be recovered. Fortunately Sarnoff made reference to the second copy which was subsequently tracked down and was found to be in much better condition. With some clever work done by a team led by Ed Reitan the colour video signal was recovered from the latter copy. The result is stellar!!

  • @coffeehigh420
    @coffeehigh420 9 лет назад +163

    notice at 3:32 I think he looks at the color tv monitor and for the first time, see's himself in color doing a live broadcast and he's just in shock! Look at how he pauses to glance at it, etc.

    • @msgeek703
      @msgeek703 6 лет назад +17

      Yeah, he looked into that monitor and you can see how amazed he was.

    • @turboflamez161
      @turboflamez161 5 лет назад +1

      Well spotted. Very interesting!

    • @Urlocallordandsavior
      @Urlocallordandsavior 4 года назад

      It could also have been him reading the script off-camera but I don't think we'll know for sure.

    • @coffeehigh420
      @coffeehigh420 4 года назад +1

      @@Urlocallordandsavior I know cause I was there!

    • @stephensoldner
      @stephensoldner 4 года назад

      @@Urlocallordandsavior This is what I assumed it was. His delivery here is slower than usual and a little choppy, which would make sense if he was reading the speech.

  • @TryTheBLT
    @TryTheBLT 8 лет назад +51

    The quality of the B&W videotape images is amazing. I love these old videotapes when they are in good condition because video has a feeling that you don't get from film. It's like you're right there. It doesn't seem old and distant like some other B&W media whether it be photos, film, or tape.

    • @VinchVolt
      @VinchVolt 7 лет назад +4

      I think part of that feeling might have to do with the fact that videotape was frequently used for amateur recordings prior to the mass-adoption of digital video cameras, whereas film wider than 16mm was reserved for professional productions. Thus, videotape tends to feel more "authentic" because it gives off a home movie aesthetic as opposed to the "professional" look of 35mm or 70mm film, ironic considering how 35mm and 70mm both provide a more accurate image than videotape.

    • @Rainer67059
      @Rainer67059 6 лет назад +1

      +game4brains 123
      Remember when the film The Hobbit came into the theaters? The cineasts complained watching that movie felt like watching TV. It was the higher frame rate. The makers chose to use 48fps, double the normal frame rate to (largely) eliminate the motion blur because motion blur doesn't go well together with 3D.
      Then it felt like TV because TV has no motion blur either, with its virtually doubled frame rate, doubled via interlacing. As TV images are consecutive pixel images, unlike film images that are synchronous pixel images, interlacing can create a virtually increased frame rate. Combined with the higher frame rate - 30 instead of 24 - TV technology displays motion better.
      35mm is not overall more accurate than pictures from electronic cameras recorded on magnetic tape.

    • @kevinevans5921
      @kevinevans5921 5 лет назад

      Sokkies agreed look at a film of the first super bowl and it looks over 50 years ago, watch one of the rare clips on videotape and it looks live.

  • @gianniveeful
    @gianniveeful 10 лет назад +65

    You see his humble nature and his true love for this country which he served as a true soldier of the United States and all humanity. Because of him, as a young Lieutenant, an old German man thanked me for being an American and serving in Europe. I took that thanks on behalf of General Eisenhower and the people of the United States, because I was not worthy of such praise and thanks. Peace to you.

    • @garymorris1856
      @garymorris1856 10 лет назад +4

      It is remarkable how much we have dropped off in terms of the quality of the Presidency. Just imagine the dramatic difference in patriotism and character from Dwight Eisenhower to the current resident of the White House. If the issues weren't so serious, conditions would be laughable. Ike was a true American, and Obama is a bad joke.

  • @AudioTech50
    @AudioTech50 8 лет назад +112

    Having been a TV repairman for much of the last 50 years, I found this fascinating. I also saw a flash of color before he threw the switch. I wonder if this was recorded using the RCA videotape standard or the Ampex technology which RCA eventually adopted.

    • @VinchVolt
      @VinchVolt 8 лет назад +10

      That reminds me of a video on restoring color to black and white copies of junked 1960's British TV shows, where they explained that flashes of color like those are the result of converting color videotape footage to black and white.

    • @oldager1662
      @oldager1662 4 года назад +2

      Absolutely no artifacts of multiple helical scan heads seen in _later_ tapes. So this system was superior but I bet it used a lot of tape!

    • @PAULLONDEN
      @PAULLONDEN 2 года назад +1

      *@Michael Rudas* ....yeah , noticed that flash immediately , probably due to the conversion .

    • @whitcwa
      @whitcwa 2 года назад +1

      RCAs first practical VTR used the Ampex technology. There was never an RCA videotape standard other than failed prototypes. Ampex shared its patents in return for RCAs patents in color TV.

    • @Revelian1982
      @Revelian1982 Год назад

      Nnnnnnneeeeerrrrrrrrdddddd!

  • @Nerdtendo6366
    @Nerdtendo6366 8 месяцев назад +1

    As a huge Eisenhower fan, knowing he was the first president to be broadcasted in color makes me happy :P

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh 12 лет назад +11

    As an archivist, I'm really pleased to encounter this clip on RUclips and even more pleased that it exists at all, and has been transferred from its original 2" videotape - a piece of which you can see being handled in the first speech.
    Reading other comments, I can see that people don't understand that there's a difference between color FILM and color VIDEOTAPE. The color images you see of JFK's inauguration in 1961, for example, are FILM - not the same technology.

  • @IronPiedmont
    @IronPiedmont 10 лет назад +116

    Film from the 1950's and 1960's had such smooth frame rates.

    • @universe4839
      @universe4839 10 лет назад +31

      It's not film, it's video.

    • @IronPiedmont
      @IronPiedmont 10 лет назад +1

      Universe I know that.

    • @universe4839
      @universe4839 10 лет назад +6

      ***** Maybe you did, but in that case I don't understand your comment's relevance to this video.

    • @IronPiedmont
      @IronPiedmont 10 лет назад +12

      Universe I'm saying that the frame rate of multimedia (videos) from the 1930's, 40's, 50's, and 60's look good compared to today.

    • @dewdude
      @dewdude 10 лет назад +15

      ***** the framerate of film has not changed. the apparent frame-rate of video is 60fps. A lot of content was actually kinetoscoped to film; which used a higher rate to maintain ease of transfer.

  • @Steve197201
    @Steve197201 6 лет назад +10

    That Secret Service agent looked so cool, jumping out of the moving car right before it stopped.

  • @johnhud0079
    @johnhud0079 7 лет назад +21

    commanding general of D Day forces. good solid president.
    national treasure

  • @nidurnevets
    @nidurnevets 11 лет назад +132

    Notice the respect given the President of the United States in those days.

    • @Langkowski
      @Langkowski 5 лет назад +18

      Today we have SJWs that dress like giant vaginas to protest against the president

    • @ageekofalltrades
      @ageekofalltrades 5 лет назад +19

      @@Langkowski You're replying to a post from 5 years ago...something tells me you probably didn't show respect to the man who was president at that time.

    • @Langkowski
      @Langkowski 5 лет назад

      There are three recent replies to the post, and you choose to focus on mine just because? Also notice that I write "today". My opinion about Obama, which you for some reason does not mention by name, is irrelevant since this thread is not about me.

    • @nole8923
      @nole8923 5 лет назад +6

      Nuttymeemps
      How about because, except for maybe JFK, he was the last president who wasn’t an asshole. Well, and maybe Carter too wasn’t an asshole. The rest were.

    • @sillygoose635
      @sillygoose635 4 года назад +4

      @@Langkowski Today we have Anti SJWs in Red Hats to protest against the actual president

  • @LaptopLarry330
    @LaptopLarry330 11 лет назад +8

    During the early years of television, NBC was the "gold standard" for televised broadcasting excellence. They had the best programming, and most often, had the groundbreaking technological advances in the medium (thanks to their ownership by the RCA Corporation). NBC, and their parent company, RCA, had the right to be very proud of their breakthrough in color broadcasting and color videotape recording, in 1958.

    • @kevinpoveromo6324
      @kevinpoveromo6324 2 года назад +1

      RCA a nonpartisian company. NOW LOOK WHAT WE HAVE .SAD.

  • @atlantic1952
    @atlantic1952 13 лет назад +3

    This is terrific to watch, history in the making, thanks so much...amazing to see color VTR so early!

  • @SenorZorrozzz
    @SenorZorrozzz 7 лет назад +2

    Live color NBC broadcasts were happening since 1955. This was the first being recorded with video tape. This tape system was abandoned. A different video tape system became the standard. In the late 70s/80s, that system was replaced by several other systems! Today, we have HD.
    The very bright lights made it difficult for Ike to read the monitor.

  • @johnswackyworld
    @johnswackyworld 12 лет назад +3

    oh man..the colors dude! the colors are so groovy!

  • @MCO18
    @MCO18 Год назад +1

    3:35 Eisenhower is watching himself on a color monitor and appears to be amazed by what he sees

  • @ScottWildTornadoSponge
    @ScottWildTornadoSponge 6 лет назад +7

    Just to put this in perspective from my family point of view: my maternal grandparents were married for under a year, and my paternal grandparents we’re dating when this footage was made. None of my aunts and uncles, my dad or mom, had been born yet. I had great-great grandparents and great-grandparents still alive at this point, all but one having past away before I was born. It’s amazing how this footage looks like it could have been shot in like the 1990’s, but yet was filmed in an era where it was just before many of the generation changing events of the 1960’s would occur. Great footage if put in historical context.

  • @JonnyQ358
    @JonnyQ358 3 года назад +1

    Great video of a great American President and General..And dig that brand new gleaming 1957 Cadillac Limousine..

  • @kylefagan9585
    @kylefagan9585 9 лет назад +11

    Presidential flag on one fender, as is tradition;
    Perfect weather for a presidential speech, aboot 80 dgrees, as is tradition;
    Presidential recording being recorded on colour T.V. for the first time, as is tradition;
    What a great day for america, and therefore, what a great day for the rest of the world.

  • @54Snickers
    @54Snickers 12 лет назад +2

    Fascinating history lesson on color television development. I agree, the quality is surprisingly good. Glad to hear that the color tape of this event has been preserved digitally. I'm sure that the machines which played this tape, would have long since been rendered obsolete and probably not been in working condition 50 + years later.

  • @bobstrauss9413
    @bobstrauss9413 7 лет назад +22

    Eisenhower was a good president..i remember him !

    • @thelord6898
      @thelord6898 3 года назад

      @infinite beats per minute Oof.

  • @mmcckkgg
    @mmcckkgg 13 лет назад

    This is a real treat for us kids that grew up in the 50's and 60's and did not have color TV. We did not get one until 1972. Thanks for posting.

  • @egrand1508
    @egrand1508 12 лет назад +3

    Eisenhower suffered a mild stroke just six months before this that left him with some speech difficulties. He always did talk slowly and sometimes hesitate, but after the stroke he would often slur words or even say the wrong ones. He was very conscious of it and slowed his speech even more to make sure he said the right thing. The bright lights needed for early color tv probably didn't help him see the cards either. After a couple of years Ike's speech returned to almost normal.

  • @stupendous1068
    @stupendous1068 5 лет назад +1

    It's amazing seeing color footage of a President from so long ago.

  • @jaymorgenthal9479
    @jaymorgenthal9479 3 года назад +5

    They used gigantic RCA TK-41 color cameras in those days. They. generated large amounts of heat and had big vents on the sides.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 2 года назад

      i bet they had cpu coolerfans like today?

  • @BackWordsJane
    @BackWordsJane 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic quality for being over 60 years old 👍

  • @jsg6532774
    @jsg6532774 8 лет назад +39

    A great man and a far better time about 7 years before the spiral trend started downward !

  • @danielcruz8347
    @danielcruz8347 2 года назад

    Glorious RCA-NBC Colour flip the switch!!! It's like Ms Judy,s Dorothy opening the DOOR to OZ !!!! BEAUTIFUL. thank you for posting

  • @SO_DIGITAL
    @SO_DIGITAL 14 лет назад +5

    These images had to be relayed 3000 miles to California to be recorded! Shows how advanced the microwave links were at the time. Awesome.

  • @Trance88
    @Trance88 14 лет назад +2

    Wow. The video quality for being such an early color broadcast is phenomenal!

  • @Jaydublus
    @Jaydublus 13 лет назад +3

    Truly a great leader not in the least worried about appearances. Very refreshing in our TelePrompter world. Dwight Eisenhower knew who he was.

  • @luacreskid
    @luacreskid 6 лет назад +2

    I was a junior in HS that year and I can tell you there were 0 color TVs in our community...but...I love watching and listening to IKE.

  • @onlyweknow2
    @onlyweknow2 10 лет назад +3

    Just like Ike, I don't know how they did it but the color was amazing.

  • @kc4cvh
    @kc4cvh 3 года назад +1

    The camera needed more tweaking of the horizontal deflection circuits, as the convergence is good only in the center of the image. Camera misconvergence is seen as color halos or fringes in the image, these were ubiquitous in color videos made before 1980.

  • @roberth.5185
    @roberth.5185 7 лет назад +8

    Credible and ethical media back then. Not anymore.

  • @lindaeasley4336
    @lindaeasley4336 4 года назад

    Outstanding, crisp videotape for being more than 60 years old

  • @c3cubed
    @c3cubed 8 лет назад +14

    This is fantastic. Nice to see a piece of history exactly the same age as myself. It seems Ike was having issues with the speed of the teleprompter - perhaps it was scrolling too slowly or feeding the speech in blocked sentence bars
    Nevertheless, folks commenting here on his seemingly staccato oratory should take into consideration the "delivery style" of the times. This was an age when public speaking demanded one to speak, using a punctuated and short-stroke sentence structure to enable everyone to grasp the message. This oratory style was prevalent to all major and international public figures going back to the invention of radio, right up to Kennedy & Johnson. It began to lose fashion by the late 60's.

    • @RADIUMGLASS
      @RADIUMGLASS 8 лет назад +2

      +c3cubed
      It's definitely the speed of a TelePrompter. I went through a similar situation myself with a teleprompter. But he is still authoritative, more so than the one we have now.

    • @c3cubed
      @c3cubed 8 лет назад +4

      He is probably the last example of the gentlemanly, elderly statesman - with an extraordinary, elegant projection of power.

    • @TheRealLaughingGravy
      @TheRealLaughingGravy 6 лет назад +4

      I don't think he was using a teleprompter. I believe he was speaking extemporaneously. Eisenhower's public speaking style was famously clumsy, and this seems a likely example of that. He was genuine, if awkward, and his audience always understood what he meant. Speaking of the tech he saw at the studio: "It really is entirely beyond my comprehension, but it is still capable of exciting my wonderment." That's a great line.

    • @mattjones5987
      @mattjones5987 2 года назад

      I don't think they had teleprompters yet. I believe someone in the back of the room was holding cue cards.

    • @bernardprouty1390
      @bernardprouty1390 2 года назад

      At times Ronald Reagan sounded like this too. Slow deliberative.

  • @jimmygentile3354
    @jimmygentile3354 6 лет назад +2

    I always liked Ike. I think he doesnt get enough credit. A sincere and decent man,

  • @mindislife
    @mindislife 10 лет назад +72

    there are colour footages of WW2. Not recolourised, but actually shot in colour.

    • @southlondon86
      @southlondon86 10 лет назад +5

      Where do these clips exist? The only ones ever shown tend to be the recolourised footage.

    • @mindislife
      @mindislife 10 лет назад +9

      WW2 Japan In Colour was claimed to be shot in colour.

    • @southlondon86
      @southlondon86 10 лет назад +1

      Claimed? But no actual proof that it was?

    • @mindislife
      @mindislife 10 лет назад +3

      It said shot in colour, Check it out yourself in youtube. Japan WW2 in Colour.

    • @jonkern9503
      @jonkern9503 10 лет назад +34

      Color VIDEOTAPE is the showpiece here, not color film.

  • @brig.4398
    @brig.4398 10 лет назад +2

    I wish I could have met Mr. Snaroff of president of RCA. I read that at meetings people would ask technical questions about color tv and he didn't have to turn to his engineers, he could ans. all the questions himself.

  • @avagd6293
    @avagd6293 5 лет назад +2

    Truman and Eisenhower were two of the best presidents that the United States has ever been
    elected.

  • @GeorgeVreelandHill
    @GeorgeVreelandHill Год назад +1

    Eisenhower was my first president, but I was too young to remember him. John F. Kennedy is my first presidential memory. But no matter, those were great times and when America was truly great.

  • @Godzilla52
    @Godzilla52 9 лет назад +301

    I miss the center-right Republicans.

    • @3243_
      @3243_ 9 лет назад +50

      +Godzilla52 Some of them are now called Democrats.

    • @CyborgVegita
      @CyborgVegita 9 лет назад +50

      +threeby8887 lol no

    • @zillsburyy1
      @zillsburyy1 9 лет назад +1

      +Godzilla52 germans had this 10 years earlier

    • @noonze1
      @noonze1 8 лет назад +70

      +Godzilla52 I miss Democrats who didn't use free stuff to get themselves elected, didn't apologize for the country, weren't obsessed with 'social issues' and big government, and who stood up to our adversaries. John Kennedy would be considered a right-wing nutjob today...

    • @Godzilla52
      @Godzilla52 8 лет назад +27

      +noonze1 Except comparing the changes within modern Democrats to modern Republicans isn't even a real comparison. The Democrats by average are anywhere from center-left to center-right where as the Republicans by average are extremely right to the point where a moderate Republican is an endangerd species. Every single one of the Democratic candidates is light years far more preferable than any of the Republican presidential candidates (with the possible exception of George Pataki). Compared to the modern Republican party, the Democrats today look like the best political party in the history of the world. And this is coming from somebody who considers themselves right wing.
      I'd have to contest your JFK statement though. Every left wing person I know holds JFK in ridiculously high esteem. I've never heard a left winger take a real swing at JFK, even the socialists I know seem to have respect for him. The only real complaints I've heard about JFK from the left (and I've heard these from a few right leaning people as well) Is that his achievements are slightly exaggerated. All and all, the Democrats really aren't that left. I mean if you were to compare them to other left wing parties in Canada or the UK such as the Liberal Party of Canada, The NDP, The Labour Party of the Liberal-Democrats, America's Democrats would be the least left leaning out of all of them.

  • @jumboJetPilot
    @jumboJetPilot Год назад +1

    Dwight Eisenhower commanded one of the units that my grandfather was the chaplain of during WWII. They became very close personal friends. At the time of my grandmother’s death in 2012 she still had the “I Like Ike” hats, buttons, neck ties, etc. that people wore during his campaign, two tickets to the Presidential grandstand for his inauguration (that my grandparents weren’t able to attend), and many handwritten Christmas cards that they had received from the Eisenhowers in the years after WWII.

  • @DanaTheInsane
    @DanaTheInsane 10 лет назад +291

    Want us to vote Republican again? Find one like him and we will talk.

    • @AdmiralBlake
      @AdmiralBlake 9 лет назад +25

      USAFsarge and Obama won two elections.

    • @AdmiralBlake
      @AdmiralBlake 9 лет назад +41

      oh grow up.

    • @abola2121
      @abola2121 9 лет назад

      AdmiralBlake What a monumental achievement...

    • @dylanwtn5634
      @dylanwtn5634 9 лет назад

      Joe LoPiccolo 9edgy11me

    • @bobjenkins643
      @bobjenkins643 9 лет назад +1

      USAFsarge at least obama didn't criticize half of america

  • @hellomcflyy
    @hellomcflyy 12 лет назад +1

    imagine if they had archived all video tapes starting way back then....I get excited to find early 80s stuff on old VHS tapes - 1958...wow

  • @englandmadethewest
    @englandmadethewest 11 лет назад +5

    Quite fascinating. Really. Ike in colour. A history thing.

    • @garymorris1856
      @garymorris1856 11 лет назад +6

      *****
      You are an idiot, and a complete ass.

  • @trailkeeper
    @trailkeeper 12 лет назад +1

    The color is nice and smooth like good quality movie film.

  • @johnw.peterson4311
    @johnw.peterson4311 4 года назад +12

    “ I like Ike.” He was a great one, this coming from a Dem.

  • @TheMNrailfan227
    @TheMNrailfan227 2 года назад +2

    This footage is incredible, it looks like it’s from the 90s!

  • @jamestarrou3685
    @jamestarrou3685 10 лет назад +64

    What I'm noticing is how Eisenhower is talking to the audience, particularly when describing the technological advancements towards the end. He speaks with a sort of amazement of the technology with a sincere earnest. When I hear Obama speak, it all sounds smug.

    • @DanaTheInsane
      @DanaTheInsane 10 лет назад +8

      It is called being intelligent. Bush II sounded like a two digit IQ twit. Your fear of "big Words" not withstanding.

    • @jamestarrou3685
      @jamestarrou3685 10 лет назад +3

      What are you talking about?

    • @Nominay
      @Nominay 10 лет назад +7

      James Tarrou He's suggesting that you are a reactionary partisan by your Obama comments.

    • @Nominay
      @Nominay 10 лет назад +10

      USAFsarge
      Eisenhower was infinitely better than Reagan. Their respective experiences before holding high office was a stark contrast. Ike was a world leader as Supreme Commander of the European Theater in World War II, while Reagan was, what, a b-movie actor and a speech maker at a convention. The difference shows!!!!

    • @Nominay
      @Nominay 10 лет назад +2

      USAFsarge I find it sad that you think I was defending Obama because I wasn't even thinking of him when I typed what I typed, and I was just trying to be funny. I didn't use the word "President" either. I changed your wording to "hold high office". Reagan should have never been Governor just as Bush should have never been Governor of Texas. As President, Reagan, like Bush AND OBAMA, did a lot of damage to this country and those 3 shmucks are now in the top of 5 of worst Presidents we've had.
      "Reagan, during the 1984 election took every state except Minnesota. Even Massachusetts voted for Reagan in 1984. "
      Nixon won EVERY state in 1972 (and DC is more liberal than Massachusetts). So what? Obviously the American people got it wrong, and McGovern was the best alternative we've ever had.

  • @CadillacL
    @CadillacL 13 лет назад +1

    How amazing to see the earliest known color footage.

  • @AwesomeRobot15
    @AwesomeRobot15 9 лет назад +29

    How many people even had color TV's though?

    • @noonze1
      @noonze1 8 лет назад +7

      +AwesomeRobot15 Or Obama without a teleprompter

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm 8 лет назад +21

      +AwesomeRobot15 Not many. The first color sets were about $1000 in mid-1950s money, and there weren't many stations that had the capability to broadcast in color (even those that did, most programming was still B&W). It's kind of like when the first HD TVs became available-not much programming to take advantage of the tech, and they cost stupid money to buy. But, somebody's gotta be first.

    • @Rickswars
      @Rickswars 6 лет назад

      0

    • @choxxxieful
      @choxxxieful 4 года назад

      More than a few...

  • @larrymagee8758
    @larrymagee8758 3 года назад +1

    This looks so good because it was stored in an archive and not played to death

    • @marcse7en
      @marcse7en 3 года назад +1

      And it was presumably converted to newer video formats, as and when they became available. I very much doubt this footage is uploaded to RUclips from the original reel of 2" videotape! The footage would almost certainly have been digitised years ago.

  • @jonantonvenableskwart5320
    @jonantonvenableskwart5320 9 лет назад +29

    Abraham Lincoln at 3:06 rasing from his chair.

  • @edwardanthony7283
    @edwardanthony7283 3 года назад

    63 years ago. Looks very good & they did have color motion pictures for 20 years @ the time.

  • @shamicentertainment1262
    @shamicentertainment1262 10 лет назад +16

    its pretty good quality for 1958, but it wouldnt of played as good from a tv in that time

    • @HBC101TVStudios
      @HBC101TVStudios 9 лет назад +11

      Shamic Entertainment Early NTSC color TV / video recordings in the 50's are considered good quality for the Americans. But for the Brits and Europeans, NTSC are considered the worst of all TV color standards.

    • @blozier2006
      @blozier2006 9 лет назад +4

      ***** Isn't the joke something like "Never Twice Same Color"? :-P

    • @HBC101TVStudios
      @HBC101TVStudios 9 лет назад +1

      Bryce Lozier Yep.

    • @aaendi6661
      @aaendi6661 6 лет назад

      I always found it funny how many people used to have the TINT control set wrong.

  • @RomeoAloneo
    @RomeoAloneo 11 лет назад +2

    The videotape looked twice as wide as modern day tape. That's why this looks so good for the time.

  • @MrTransalpin
    @MrTransalpin 8 лет назад +2

    I believe this analog NTSC 3,58 Video is upscalled to digital.
    Master recorder was perhaps, an AMPEX video tape.

  • @bryanspindle4455
    @bryanspindle4455 Год назад +1

    Amazing. l was about one and a half years old at that time.

  • @NickOsterkampVA-R
    @NickOsterkampVA-R 9 лет назад +4

    I can't even come on a President Eisenhower video without some of the comments here being a testimony to the retardation of humanity.
    Ike, if you really made it to the pearly gates, I hope I join you soon.

    • @lbnFadl
      @lbnFadl 9 лет назад

      Nick Osterkamp Your picture makes absolutely zero sense

    • @NickOsterkampVA-R
      @NickOsterkampVA-R 9 лет назад

      This name is either restricted, too long, or contains too many invalid characters.
      Piss off, how's that?

    • @lbnFadl
      @lbnFadl 9 лет назад

      Nick Osterkamp Two enemy flags together like that

    • @Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong
      @Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong 9 лет назад

      Trump 2016? You're joking, right

    • @NickOsterkampVA-R
      @NickOsterkampVA-R 9 лет назад

      Captain Sum Ting Wong Oh get out of here, you just want to bug me about it.

  • @atlantis0v-104
    @atlantis0v-104 Год назад +3

    Eisenhower Is Better than Me.

  • @myboylollipop09
    @myboylollipop09 8 лет назад +1

    Damn, get a load of that stunning new Cadillac Fleetwood Presidential Limousine..What a beauty! I would add President Eisenhower was one of my favorite Presidents..During the 1950s our friends loved us and our enemies feared us..It was a Foreign Policy strategy that worked for everyone interested in Peace and Security. And hopefully will work again with our new President come Jan 20th 2017..

    • @nevarelixe3963
      @nevarelixe3963 8 лет назад +2

      To be fair, we had just pulled them out of the clutches of Nazi Germany. Whether they liked us or not, they sure weren't going to give us lip after that.

  • @Tr1Hard777
    @Tr1Hard777 8 лет назад +7

    3:40 only if he knew what damage fast communication can cause due to lies and propaganda the Internet spreads

  • @turboflamez161
    @turboflamez161 5 лет назад +1

    1:21 such a fleeting moment, but such a vastly important one also.

  • @mrchopsticks3
    @mrchopsticks3 8 лет назад +48

    Ah, what's the big deal. Color television is just a fad anyway!

    • @firebrigade101
      @firebrigade101 8 лет назад

      It was the first of it's kind...everything back in the early days was a big WOW!
      I got in on the rear end of this and remember the first paid cable, first VCR ,end of Drive-ins, touch tone on phones first Brick cel.phones, the first home computer with bbc (no internet)...all these things were a big deal at one time...just giving a explanation, not chewing out!

    • @mrchopsticks3
      @mrchopsticks3 8 лет назад +9

      firebrigade101 I remember the first time I went on an Internet chatroom, it was on Compuserve in 1994. I was chatting with a guy from New Jersey and I thought it was the most amazing thing I had ever done, so I know what you mean.

    • @devinthierault
      @devinthierault 7 лет назад +1

      Well I remember using wifi for the first time in 2004

    • @imyou2429
      @imyou2429 6 лет назад +2

      I really only got to witness the iPhone release in 2007

  • @pauld724
    @pauld724 3 года назад

    i cheated on my tablet and zoomed in to crop out the side bars into 16:9 ratio and it still had a decent resolution on a 10 inch screen. almost theater like close to your face. very cool. this is 63 years old as of now 2021

  • @ezragonzalez8936
    @ezragonzalez8936 8 лет назад +5

    wonder how eloquent George W Bush or Trump would be at this speech lol

    • @willdrucker4291
      @willdrucker4291 8 лет назад +8

      +Leo Gonzalez I don't believe either could even spell the word "eloquent", yet alone BE eloquent

    • @777uka
      @777uka 8 лет назад

      Leo Gonzalez horrible.

    • @Reub3
      @Reub3 7 лет назад

      I'd argue every president after this guy would lack that class. They all suck now and will continue to suck til the end of USA. RIP USA

  • @watermelon1680
    @watermelon1680 4 года назад

    My dad was 5 at the time, so it is nice to see what he could have seen on TV.

  • @murphy6700
    @murphy6700 9 лет назад +4

    Wouldn't have been an inaugural address in May 1958. He was elected president twice: 1952 and 1956.

    • @iamthem134
      @iamthem134 8 лет назад +5

      I think it means the inauguration of the first colored TV address from Washington, not of the presidency.
      Inauguration is admittedly a strange word to use here, but that is what I believe the intention was.

  • @petercraig6802
    @petercraig6802 5 лет назад +2

    Ike has a special place in the hearts of those of us in the UK who remember WW2 because of how he stopped the two prima donnas Montgomery and Patton from starting WW3 !

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts 9 лет назад +18

    This clip is about the tech, not the politics. All your moronic comments about such are an embarrassment...

  • @langley2205
    @langley2205 12 лет назад +1

    Thanks for uploading this. A real bit of broadcasting history. Also, I realised looking at the notes that it was the day I was born!

  • @webbsuperiorbelties5800
    @webbsuperiorbelties5800 8 лет назад +10

    Must be the beginning of the teleprompter too! Don't get me wrong, I like Ike, but he looks uncomfortable here.

    • @morbius109
      @morbius109 8 лет назад +1

      Seth Webb His speech was impromptu, I'd read. He simply spoke from his own thoughts.

    • @davidharing6475
      @davidharing6475 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah, he surprisingly doesn't sound like a natural speaker.

    • @TheRealLaughingGravy
      @TheRealLaughingGravy 6 лет назад +1

      Politicians of that era didn't grow up watching TV. They weren't trained almost from birth, as we have been, how a person on television is supposed to speak. Eisenhower was born in 1890 - he probably didn't hear a radio until he was well into his twenties. He was not a natural public speaker.

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 6 лет назад +1

      +HoneySiegalSurvivor
      Eisenhower destroyed the Nazi's and also faced down the Communists in Europe and he also destroyed the Communists in America.
      Are you a communist.

    • @morticindavis9410
      @morticindavis9410 6 лет назад

      morbius109 yeah but if you look closely it does look like he’s reading and trying to make out the words.

  • @nolakazi
    @nolakazi 2 года назад

    What a great timing if the world.. seeing Australia change live in color made me see this

  • @777uka
    @777uka 8 лет назад +3

    If you guys want a good shock.....Google Pres Eisenhower mom and dad wedding pic....

    • @TheRealLaughingGravy
      @TheRealLaughingGravy 6 лет назад

      Speculation that Ike's mother was biracial is not new and is entirely unproven. It seems based on one photograph and somebody's self-published book. Rumors that other presidents may have had some African ancestry (including Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Harding, and Coolidge) became popular around the time of Barack Obama's inauguration among those who wished to delegitimize everything about Obama, including his status as the first black president.

  • @gamernorcal
    @gamernorcal 8 лет назад

    Amazing color! Great quality.

  • @lazert8144
    @lazert8144 9 лет назад +116

    The last good republican president

  • @Orf
    @Orf 6 лет назад +2

    6:15 "Thank you very much sir. Thank you all."

  • @ukranaut
    @ukranaut 8 лет назад +5

    News records from nineties look like shit, compared to this.

    • @julierogers6377
      @julierogers6377 8 лет назад

      ukranaut
      Huh?

    • @subbustalkdude5663
      @subbustalkdude5663 7 лет назад

      ukranaut
      Why the nineties of all decades? Why not the eighties?

    • @subbustalkdude5663
      @subbustalkdude5663 7 лет назад

      amanoncrack
      The only part of the 1990s that are recent is the late 1990s (1997-99).
      Also, the early 1990s (1990-93) are nearly indistinguishable from the late 1980s.

    • @subbustalkdude5663
      @subbustalkdude5663 7 лет назад

      amanoncrack
      I'm not even being "convoluted". That's only in your mind (which is wrong anyways).

    • @subbustalkdude5663
      @subbustalkdude5663 7 лет назад

      amanoncrack
      Because I'm right.