While Ahmad reached the conclusion that local government is the solution to most of Pakistan's problems by thinking about urban planning issues, I reached this conclusion by studying Anarchist theories. This whole conservation makes a great case in favor of Anarchist ideas. Thank you Shehzad and TPE for starting these brilliant conversations. More power to you!
Post 1990 2 constitutional amendment to accommodate LSG, for rural & urban How could India do it while Pakistan failed ? Inertia of rulers: Not much debate on local government after independence: Why local government are feared and by whom? :
@hulagukhan-we3fw Yes, absolutely correct, in 1990 came the 30% reservation to women in LB elections . But in India democracy really flourished because of regular LB elections and decentralization of financial power ! Late PM Rajiv Gandhi was a staunch advocate of distributing financial powers to the Local Bodies. During his regime all the Gram Panchayats and municipal councils got funds directly from Delhi through District Collector's for construction/ repair of school buildings and creation of Nehru Youth Centers ! A massive investment indeed in democracy
Well done sir! As an urban engineer i can confirm that it was anan extremely educational podcast. There should be a round two of this discussion with a focus solely on Karachi's problems since it's an anomaly where all the existing models have failed.
This is wat I am talking about local self n gross root level politics are key for national progression. Debate should start at village level reach till top.
@@ThePakistanExperienceplease checkout thr panchayati raj system of local government in India, I never see pakistanis talking about it or even knowing about it.
Salam, great talk. Very insightful. I get to listen to people like this because of you Shehzad. JazakAllah kher. A guest with an opposite point of view on local governments might also be good.
I was surprised to learn that such a likable politician is now working in the private sector. Your podcasts have helped me to see politicians as more relatable people.
yaar the only thing that baffles me is that yahi loog tou power mea hain. Bhai aap karo na ye kaam. Correct me if im wrong but his party of preference has been in power for quite some time. He admits to the failure, perfect! now step 2 is to get these things going and if there are any road blocks then organize peaceful protests! BC we do protests for the shittiest of things, is baat par kartay hain na.
By the way that’s our dilemma we fall heads over heels for anyone who is articulate especially who can speak English… like Bilawal etc while ignoring the substance or the motivations of these evil a-holes
Thank you for another great podcast. It would be great if you mention the date of recording or something, as it gets confusing… I was like baariah ka mosam to chala gaya, isay kya howa?
Pakistan problems has these solutions 1- Free and fair elections by evm- vvpat technology or other advanced technology 2- Referendum on either the political system in pak should be based on presidential or parliamentary system. 3- Divide every province of pakistan into two parts north/south and on basis of better administration (north punjab/south punjab, North sindh/ south sindh) Etc- And give Provincial status tooo Gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir 4- Jooo bheee natural resources hain pak mee petrol,gas,coal unnnn seee anne waleee revenue usss district kaa 70% tak share unnnkeee pass hogee yane unnn natural resources see anee wala revenue kaaa 70% wooo district ki elected govt rakhegi rakheengee baki federal govt or province koo sirf kuch heee hisssa milegaa. 5- Pure pakistan meee ek standard digital or fixed tax policy banaou jismeee 15 seee zyada tax naaa hooo direct or indirect or 10lac seee kam.kamane walae peee tax naa hooo or food item peee 5% seee zyada tax naa hoooo or in taxes kooo bant deeya jayee 5- taxes kooo federal govt kooo 5- taxes provincisl govt 5- taxes municipal govt koooo 6-NFC award kooo change kiyeaa jayeee budget kaaa revenue kaaa share 70-75% federal govt appne pass rakhee (provinces appna tax revenue khud collect karee) or isske sath PFC(provincial finance commision)districts koo milne walee paisee or District financial commision (jooo district govt aggey villages or tehsils koooo deee) 7- Pure pakistan directly elected districts govts and village govt(panchayat raj/india) kee election hooo or constitution mee jese pm or cm kee roles or powers likhee hain wesee hee mayor ki powers or responsibility likhh deee jayee (water, sewrage Police, cleanliness) or tax collection jese water tax property tax, motor vehicle tax, service tax, sab mayor collect kareee or local govt kaa subject provinces see leekeee federal govt keee pass or election bhee unke election commision karwayee naa kee provinces. 8- Pak mee yeee Ethnic based qota system govt jobs mee khtam karkee sareew recuritment 100% css exams or merit or ussske professional degree based peee hooo or pak meee single national curriculum laggo kese karna hain usski planning kiiyee jayee 9- The federal and provincial election should be held seprately(Matlab provincial or federal govt kee election ek din peee naa hooo) There should be a gap of 3 months To 6 months 10- Abolish care taker govt 11- Remove perks, privillages, Protocoals, benefits of every beaureacrate, lawmakers(mna), judges, Military officers. 12- Restoration of student unions
You have compared Shahid Bhagat Singh to Hamas terrorist One organisation who kills victims and rapes woman is compared with the one who was ready to die for his country I was a subscriber but now I'm not Thought you were the sensible one amongst the radicals of Pakistan but at the end faith/religion can takeover one's intellect Unsubscribing you right now
@@wasaymoria9061 yeah by rap... , murdering civilians Please don't mind but that's the reason why people still thinks Islam is so aggressive There must be something that every religion has problem with Islam
I want to ask a question.. I have seen so many travel/destination videos of Pakistan but i have not seen state runs public busses in Pakistan... Does govt run busses there or is it totally privatised?
Totally privatized. The state has in the last decades built a public bus network in Lahore and Rawalpindi. There are also a couple of routes in Peshwar and Karachi now. That's pretty much it I think.
@@ThePakistanExperience Public transport like bus and train should be the priority of the any govt in developing world.. save lots of money of middle class n poor people. and it create trust towards govt.
@@vikas__patel24 Yeah exactly and people in India started having their own vehicles and in 20 years no will use busses maybe 🤷🏻♂️ ( last decade all houses in India atleast have a single bike )
Parking fee ka shoar machao and then government will drop this Parking fee bomb on middle class only. And rich will again find a way to skip this shit😂
سارے ٹیکس غریب عوام کے لئے،،ساری مراعات طاقت سروں کے لئے کسی طاقت ور سے قانون کی پابندی کرواکر دکھائو۔ وہ تو سرے سے آئین پاکستان کی پرواہ ہی نہیں کرتے ردی کی ٹوکری کی نذر کر تے ہیں بات کرتے ہیں قانون کی۔کس کو بیوقوف بنا رہے ہیں ؟
Shahzad main apki har video dekhti thi mujhe to aap ek liberal lagte the par jo aapko maine twitter par dekha totally different apko kya jarurat pad gayi thi bhagat singh ko beech me lane ki.aur compare bhi kisse kiya aur ek maasi banke kah rhe the ki dekho punjabiyo ye tumhare bare me kya kah rhe hai ki tum unpadh ho.very disappointed
I agree…was very fond of his podcasts…really appreciated the way he used to present his viewpoint evn though I don’t agree to most of thm but thy were nuanced…but these few days he has really fallen frm grace…his tweets were so disappointing to a level tht now I don’t trust this guy’s opinions anymore..👎🏻👎🏻
Wrong analysis and here is why. Democracy works only when top Politician/Political party has absolute power and can make independent decision. This power will trickle down to local government. In addition Press and government institutions (Law and order/courts, government institutions) needs to function per constitution. This will insure relatively fair election and top politicians has to function to please voters. In India Modi has absolute power however he still needs to win election and please people
@@ThePakistanExperience what do you mean by "NO". Democracy is where a poor kid selling chai can become a PM. Black minority could become a president. You need come out of Elite shell and counter argue with some example. Pakistan is still ruled by Nawabs/Zamindars/Elites who demanded Pakistan actually to safeguard their fairytale palaces and Jagir. Please watch your own podcast on Elite's of Pakistan. The reason you are alive and kicking is you found a way not to piss of the one who really matters 😝
@hulagukhan-we3fw 1. Didn't Indian revolutionaries attack the families of British in the war of 1857? 2. Secondly, the land till Attock doesn't belong to the TTP, it belongs to the locals. TTP is barely 15-25K at best, how can their demands overrule the wishes of the millions of locals living there?
@hulagukhan-we3fw there are numerous names. Please Google Udham Singh. He literally went to the UK to kill. What are you talking about? You clearly haven't read history. Or at least you've read a very narrow biased history
@@ThePakistanExperience Bhagat Singh didn't target innocent civilians. He didn't capture and r*pe women and children. The ideology of Hamas is to kill each and every Jew. Bhagat Singh was secular. there is place for people of any religion in country govrn by ideology of Bhagat singh.You will not live a single day in country ruled by Hamas.
good riddance, one shouldn't even want heartless followers like you who can see the 700 Israelis killed but cant see the 2100 Palestinian children killed by Israel in the past decade, because you are blinded by the hate against a particular community that you see every fighting from that community as a terrorist
Arab m bh qabeelay thay and Islamic govt dealt with their heads Qabilay k leaders were elected by elders of the qabilas So Islam does kind of recognises it
Crowd bullying karnay agae dogmatic Indiots. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Shitdian moral compass is driven by commercial interests, ours is not.
Such a humble soft spoken man. God knows we need people like him on this side of the border. Great episode as always !!
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While Ahmad reached the conclusion that local government is the solution to most of Pakistan's problems by thinking about urban planning issues, I reached this conclusion by studying Anarchist theories. This whole conservation makes a great case in favor of Anarchist ideas. Thank you Shehzad and TPE for starting these brilliant conversations. More power to you!
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I’m no fan of the nepotism of political parties in Pakistan but damn this guy was humble
Post 1990 2 constitutional amendment to accommodate LSG, for rural & urban
How could India do it while Pakistan failed ?
Inertia of rulers:
Not much debate on local government after independence:
Why local government are feared and by whom? :
@hulagukhan-we3fw
Yes, absolutely correct, in 1990 came the 30% reservation to women in LB elections . But in India democracy really flourished because of regular LB elections and decentralization of financial power ! Late PM Rajiv Gandhi was a staunch advocate of distributing financial powers to the Local Bodies. During his regime all the Gram Panchayats and municipal councils got funds directly from Delhi through District Collector's for construction/ repair of school buildings and creation of Nehru Youth Centers ! A massive investment indeed in democracy
Well done sir! As an urban engineer i can confirm that it was anan extremely educational podcast. There should be a round two of this discussion with a focus solely on Karachi's problems since it's an anomaly where all the existing models have failed.
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Hope to see such educated local legislators , wealthy or poor, like him❤
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Very educational podcast, thank You for putting it together.
Best wishes from an Indian Norwegian
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Ahmad is the most well read experts on local government
Humble, knowledgeable, educated, and well-informed people we need people like him to move forward.
Dude was surprisingly honest
Pakistan me to federal elections ka naamo nishan nahi door door tak aur yaha baatein Local Govt formation ki ho rahi 😅😅😅😅😅
The kind of politicians we need to build Pakistan in future ❤ hats off ❤
This is wat I am talking about local self n gross root level politics are key for national progression. Debate should start at village level reach till top.
100%
Politics su*ks
@@ThePakistanExperienceplease checkout thr panchayati raj system of local government in India, I never see pakistanis talking about it or even knowing about it.
I talked about it - but it varies from state to state in India
@@ahmadiqbalchaudhary loved the insights.
I'd really like to hear your thoughts on Universal Basic Income as an investment in HDI in Pakistan.
I listen to your podcast regularly, this podcast is by far is THE Best one
He seems humble and deserving
Salam, great talk. Very insightful.
I get to listen to people like this because of you Shehzad. JazakAllah kher.
A guest with an opposite point of view on local governments might also be good.
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Please help turn on English subtitles on RUclips. In order to help me understand politics in Pakistan more. ครับ
I was surprised to learn that such a likable politician is now working in the private sector. Your podcasts have helped me to see politicians as more relatable people.
Thank you. Thats the point 🙌
I am at awe
The best thing was the local taxes idea it is mind blowing it can change cities.
yaar the only thing that baffles me is that yahi loog tou power mea hain. Bhai aap karo na ye kaam. Correct me if im wrong but his party of preference has been in power for quite some time. He admits to the failure, perfect! now step 2 is to get these things going and if there are any road blocks then organize peaceful protests! BC we do protests for the shittiest of things, is baat par kartay hain na.
For anyone who doesn't know, he is the son of Ahsan Iqbal from PML N.
Great information, Iqbal sahab bhi yek danishwar hai.
Thank you! i didnt know that.
He is a very knowledge ful person. Please make more podcast on the topic
By the way that’s our dilemma we fall heads over heels for anyone who is articulate especially who can speak English… like Bilawal etc while ignoring the substance or the motivations of these evil a-holes
Thank you for another great podcast. It would be great if you mention the date of recording or something, as it gets confusing… I was like baariah ka mosam to chala gaya, isay kya howa?
It is only the Lahore podcasts that have not been posted soon after being recorded.
Thanksss
This was recorded in July, when Shehzad was visiting Lahore.
Much needed conversations! Brilliant podcast.
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good vlog
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احمد اقبال صاحب جمہوری لیڈر ہے ہم انکو اور انکے والد صاحب پاکستان کا وزییراعظم دیکھنا چاہتے ہیں یہ ہیں اصل جمہوری لوگ
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why did Indian parliament get the local government law, does Pakistan need similar law
Is the audio out of sync??
Shahzad Bhai please please invite or interview Owais Iqbal
Pakistan problems has these solutions
1- Free and fair elections by evm- vvpat technology or other advanced technology
2- Referendum on either the political system in pak should be based on presidential or parliamentary system.
3- Divide every province of pakistan into two parts north/south and on basis of better administration (north punjab/south punjab, North sindh/ south sindh) Etc- And give Provincial status tooo Gilgit Baltistan and Azad Kashmir
4- Jooo bheee natural resources hain pak mee petrol,gas,coal unnnn seee anne waleee revenue usss district kaa 70% tak share unnnkeee pass hogee yane unnn natural resources see anee wala revenue kaaa 70% wooo district ki elected govt rakhegi rakheengee baki federal govt or province koo sirf kuch heee hisssa milegaa.
5- Pure pakistan meee ek standard digital or fixed tax policy banaou jismeee 15 seee zyada tax naaa hooo direct or indirect or 10lac seee kam.kamane walae peee tax naa hooo or food item peee 5% seee zyada tax naa hoooo or
in taxes kooo bant deeya jayee
5- taxes kooo federal govt kooo
5- taxes provincisl govt
5- taxes municipal govt koooo
6-NFC award kooo change kiyeaa jayeee budget kaaa revenue kaaa share 70-75% federal govt appne pass rakhee (provinces appna tax revenue khud collect karee) or isske sath PFC(provincial finance commision)districts koo milne walee paisee or District financial commision (jooo district govt aggey villages or tehsils koooo deee)
7- Pure pakistan directly elected districts govts and village govt(panchayat raj/india) kee election hooo or constitution mee jese pm or cm kee roles or powers likhee hain wesee hee mayor ki powers or responsibility likhh deee jayee (water, sewrage Police, cleanliness) or tax collection jese water tax property tax, motor vehicle tax, service tax, sab mayor collect kareee or local govt kaa subject provinces see leekeee federal govt keee pass or election bhee unke election commision karwayee naa kee provinces.
8- Pak mee yeee Ethnic based qota system govt jobs mee khtam karkee sareew recuritment 100% css exams or merit or ussske professional degree based peee hooo or pak meee single national curriculum laggo kese karna hain usski planning kiiyee jayee
9- The federal and provincial election should be held seprately(Matlab provincial or federal govt kee election ek din peee naa hooo) There should be a gap of 3 months To 6 months
10- Abolish care taker govt
11- Remove perks, privillages, Protocoals, benefits of every beaureacrate, lawmakers(mna), judges, Military officers.
12- Restoration of student unions
1st comment Keep up the good work
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3:38 when Modi says it’s Hindu Rashtra mentality, otherwise its kosher.
Gandhiji always support local grass root govt
agr in public office holders ney bhee rona hee hai and kahaaniaan hee sunaanee hain to program to varh gyab
You have compared Shahid Bhagat Singh to Hamas terrorist
One organisation who kills victims and rapes woman is compared with the one who was ready to die for his country
I was a subscriber but now I'm not
Thought you were the sensible one amongst the radicals of Pakistan but at the end faith/religion can takeover one's intellect
Unsubscribing you right now
Good riddance, you need to be violent to fight a violent oppressor
@@wasaymoria9061 yeah by rap... , murdering civilians
Please don't mind but that's the reason why people still thinks Islam is so aggressive
There must be something that every religion has problem with Islam
inse umeed bhi kya karna akhir h to ye flat earth wAle hi😂😂😂😂😂😂
Leh ni painaa 4K😍
I want to ask a question..
I have seen so many travel/destination videos of Pakistan but i have not seen state runs public busses in Pakistan... Does govt run busses there or is it totally privatised?
Totally privatized. The state has in the last decades built a public bus network in Lahore and Rawalpindi. There are also a couple of routes in Peshwar and Karachi now. That's pretty much it I think.
@@ThePakistanExperience
Public transport like bus and train should be the priority of the any govt in developing world.. save lots of money of middle class n poor people. and it create trust towards govt.
@@vikas__patel24 We in India have both when it comes to Busses . Both govt and public but Train is only govt !!!!!
@@TonyStark-mm6qy that's true..
Private is good .. but govt should be there in essential buisness like this.
@@vikas__patel24 Yeah exactly and people in India started having their own vehicles and in 20 years no will use busses maybe 🤷🏻♂️ ( last decade all houses in India atleast have a single bike )
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Parking fee ka shoar machao and then government will drop this Parking fee bomb on middle class only. And rich will again find a way to skip this shit😂
Property tax bohat kam hy this point is not true ... Hamari govt daiti kia hay jo woh tax demand karti hy
عوام کو لوٹنے کا نام قانون نہیں ہوتا۔
Local govt dictatorship m bnti han democracy ma ghayab 😅
Unfortunately
Cute shahzad.
سارے ٹیکس غریب عوام کے لئے،،ساری مراعات طاقت سروں کے لئے کسی طاقت ور سے قانون کی پابندی کرواکر دکھائو۔ وہ تو سرے سے آئین پاکستان کی پرواہ ہی نہیں کرتے ردی کی ٹوکری کی نذر کر تے ہیں بات کرتے ہیں قانون کی۔کس کو بیوقوف بنا رہے ہیں ؟
Shahzad main apki har video dekhti thi mujhe to aap ek liberal lagte the par jo aapko maine twitter par dekha totally different apko kya jarurat pad gayi thi bhagat singh ko beech me lane ki.aur compare bhi kisse kiya aur ek maasi banke kah rhe the ki dekho punjabiyo ye tumhare bare me kya kah rhe hai ki tum unpadh ho.very disappointed
I agree…was very fond of his podcasts…really appreciated the way he used to present his viewpoint evn though I don’t agree to most of thm but thy were nuanced…but these few days he has really fallen frm grace…his tweets were so disappointing to a level tht now I don’t trust this guy’s opinions anymore..👎🏻👎🏻
Same here
Isn't road tax that rent he is talking abt
Wrong analysis and here is why. Democracy works only when top Politician/Political party has absolute power and can make independent decision. This power will trickle down to local government. In addition Press and government institutions (Law and order/courts, government institutions) needs to function per constitution. This will insure relatively fair election and top politicians has to function to please voters. In India Modi has absolute power however he still needs to win election and please people
No
@@ThePakistanExperience what do you mean by "NO". Democracy is where a poor kid selling chai can become a PM. Black minority could become a president. You need come out of Elite shell and counter argue with some example. Pakistan is still ruled by Nawabs/Zamindars/Elites who demanded Pakistan actually to safeguard their fairytale palaces and Jagir. Please watch your own podcast on Elite's of Pakistan. The reason you are alive and kicking is you found a way not to piss of the one who really matters 😝
bateen is say karwa lo...bhai ap Mayor thay ap nay kiya karnama kiya?
indians in this comment section think you compared bhagat singh with terorists im soo confused????????
@hulagukhan-we3fw they're fighting for their freedom from an occupying force living under apartheid. That's the comparison.
@hulagukhan-we3fw 1. Didn't Indian revolutionaries attack the families of British in the war of 1857?
2. Secondly, the land till Attock doesn't belong to the TTP, it belongs to the locals. TTP is barely 15-25K at best, how can their demands overrule the wishes of the millions of locals living there?
@hulagukhan-we3fw there are numerous names. Please Google Udham Singh. He literally went to the UK to kill. What are you talking about? You clearly haven't read history. Or at least you've read a very narrow biased history
Ahmad bhai achay insan lagte hain laikin in se kahein yeh hitler moustache shave kar dein please.
Shame on you both sons of dectators
Isreal Palestine k upper video lao
Aaj
You lost some of us by supporting the Terrorists
What?
@@ThePakistanExperience Bhagat Singh didn't target innocent civilians. He didn't capture and r*pe women and children. The ideology of Hamas is to kill each and every Jew. Bhagat Singh was secular. there is place for people of any religion in country govrn by ideology of Bhagat singh.You will not live a single day in country ruled by Hamas.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
good riddance, one shouldn't even want heartless followers like you who can see the 700 Israelis killed but cant see the 2100 Palestinian children killed by Israel in the past decade, because you are blinded by the hate against a particular community that you see every fighting from that community as a terrorist
Hi
I am looking for what Islam says on this 😢
Arab m bh qabeelay thay and Islamic govt dealt with their heads
Qabilay k leaders were elected by elders of the qabilas
So Islam does kind of recognises it
U just disappointed Me
Why
Crowd bullying karnay agae dogmatic Indiots. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Shitdian moral compass is driven by commercial interests, ours is not.
@@Chlawabhosdi k flat earth wAle