These younger battlers have no idea how to create a brand for themselves that will be sustainable. That's why verb and these guys have been around for 13+ years. It goes beyond rapping
I wouldn't necessarily call Nitty young. His first notable battle was against Arsonal on KOTD in 2014 which is even before Geechi got serious with battling. So Nitty has been around long enough to know the game. Maybe he's just not built for that next level. His skill is unquestionable but his ability to build hype and a story around a battle leaves a lot to be desired.
What lux nd verb is talking bout is why the battlerappers were mad at eazy cause he realized taking all these fights won’t get him more money, not everybody can have a tay roc n dna type story
I agree Nitty could manage his career a little better , not taking all these random new guys . but I also agreee that LUX NEED TO COME OUTSIDE . I understand the draw a battle with Hitman could create , but niggas been outside calling Lux name for years . then to take someone who barely said anything about you before high quality battlers that been calling you out for forever makes it look a way .
Why should a giant care if the ants are calling out his name?? And what's wrong with paying attention when another giant calls you out?? Lux is in the right. Rum can wait till he does a little more growing. Damn.
*Nitty gonna end up like JC and Chilla to what I like to categorize them as 'Lyrical JOURNEYMEN'. And it's the generic simpleton NPC fans that be like "it's called battle rap, not battle brand/marketability" or some goofy ass shit thinking they're saying something clever that always disagree when it comes to this topic😂*
@@veemajor1721 *Nitty still has to move smart, Con is gonna give him that Lux treatment too and ignore his ass if he keeps downplaying his brand battling anybody.*
@@Dadee3 Facts, Con doesn't even care for battle rap like that anymore but if he did, Nitty is not moving the needle for him to feel like the opportunity is worth it. It's like people refuse to understand battle rap has been a business for the past decade plus. If you present ANYONE with a choice between a Hitman Holla bag and a Rum Nitty bag, they are taking Hitman 10 times out of 10.
@@titowilliams7651 Actually Dalyt isn't waiting. He's the one they're waiting for. Lux and Lyt all said he had his label situation as to why it hasn't happened yet.
As a fan it seems like a lot of Battle rappers don’t know how to make money outside of rapping. Except a few they just won a rap all day terrible management
@russell9411 how old are you, 12, 13? Who has ducked him? He's battled a lot of people. You said STFU...what you mad Rum not a top draw? Be mad at Rum for not branding himself properly. Aim the STFU at Rum when he ask to battle people that's definitely ticket sellers and complain when he can't get them cuz he not a ticket seller. Tell RUM stfu for battling Footz. 🤣🤣🤣 You must be the Rum Nitty boot licker PBW was talking about.
@@russell9411 Rum could draw if the URL would promote the battles. He called out Calicoe, Lux, Conceited, etc. They all create narratives to duck Nitty.
Tay Roc and Rum need to get away from URL 😂 I don’t know why he battling Foots , I hate his name, the url is obviously trying to build talent but this is sad
@ghost420and69 Bro let’s keep it real Lux can rap with any pen dude in history whether mainstream or battle rap,so that’s a battle rap narrative making people like u think he’s scared to test his pen and if u know bars then u know I’m speaking facts.
@@sinceremarks8529that's just it they don't know bars this is a culture where they act like Nitty is incredible every battle and Lux is mid when he step out. Idk how ppl have Will beating Hollow.
This whole “Rum Battles too much” is a narrative cooked up to justify Lux ducking Nitty… imho If battle rap is a sport then the best should take all comers (pause)
Did you listen to their logic? He explained why he took the Calico battle. Create and buzz and be exclusive. Do you think Goodz, or say, Surf would battle Ace Amin or Footz? Absolutely not. Not now. Their buzz is not big enough. It’s business. Do you think Jay Z or Beyoncé would collab with anyone? It has to make sense. It has to be someone that is special to them, or an ascending star. Everything in life should be done with purpose.
I get what they saying about Rums brand but no excuses not to run it with Rum! He give the younger class opportunities and he get the job done so you can’t say he losing. Regardless Rum would give them the fight they looking for
I dont know bruh… Rum’s biggest battles Hollow,Surf,Roc… were some of his subpar performances… I get giving the younger classes opportunities but damn how many..
Nothing wrong with giving opportunities but at they same time they’re saying URL ain’t falling Lux with an offer for Rum lol and if they do they’re going to lowball Lux because of what they think of Rum
They not building up new battlers by giving them a shot. They need to bring a class of battle rappers up by then battling each other. Surf, Roc, John John, Hitman etc… came up battling each other. They didn’t need a shot from Lux or Mook or Rex
@@veemajor1721 I think the url don’t want battlers to get to big and have another Eazy situation. They have talent but they don’t have brands. The brand is the url not the battlers
@@cperkins5050 giving new guys big shots too early can hurt more than help. Sometimes they not ready for it or they don’t have a big enough organic core following for people to really care. People will tune in for the big name guy. Maybe watch the battle once then every other time they watch it just skip to the bigger name guy rounds
@@gkcinco8972uh...look at what he did for rbe...two of the most popular rbe battles ever have verb in them. Smack came to STL because of Verb not hitman...so yes hes a draw
I’m seeing wait to much Lux without him battling. How can the player not even getting in the game talk about the starters. Lux been pulling a Kawhi Leonard since the geechi battle. Rum is out here on the court, pulled this same trick with Jc. Battle man or stop talking about em.
Ayo I don’t know if y’all understand the pressure of being a single Parent like Nitty and don’t forget he wasn’t that active for a min dealing with real life so he got that hunger which is why it’s smart for Lux to duck him and DNA
My whole team said, "Damn, this nigga getting killed." 😂😂😂😂. Seriously, tho I really want to see Lux Vs JC on the roof or on a Volume. I just want JC to battle Verb first, on a Volume or in The Blue Room.
Rum just battle plucking Ace Amin at Summer Maddness. He’s the best now, but he definitely isn’t the hottest. That would either be Big K, Easy or Geechi.
@@veemajor1721 I mean to be honest bro lux called hitman out in the verb battle and his last freestyle so he been wanted to battle hitman a couple years now! But yea that’s not really what people want We want lux vs rum nitty dna daylyt
@@FreeYourLenz Jerry ain't no pushover but I do feel like if lux wasn't on the west Coast he would have had a better showing ... but then again I don't believe In excuses 🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️😂😂
I fuck with Lux but if we going off his answer for Calicoe, then it should be the same for Rum. Rum has been the hottest battle rapper for years now and he's battled everyone other than Lux, Mook, and Verb when it comes to active vets. And he called you out, same as Calicoe. But now, there's a switch. Make it make sense. He has Brizz, JJDD, Surf, Roc, Twork, Solomon, Shine, T-Top, Ill Will, JC, Geechi (x2), A-Ward, and more on his resume.
Man fuck that he makin excuses, cant use the JC angle to where they battling too much cause Daylight called u out and been sittin down not battling for the longest n still waitin.
JC, DANNY AND RUM ALL EFB none of them get the bigger picture, they're ALL chasing Lux and MOOK BUT willing to battle stop signs, those 3 have given more than enough shots over the past 5 years. Oversaturating their brands. Lux G.O.D. Diss track like his battle verses aged like Sicilian wine.
Some people are great at what they do, but thats not the greatest thing they do.. rum might not wanna be all in the media like eazy is right now, and maybe he with whatever smoke.. has rum spoke on this yet or elaborated to why or how he moving in his eyes?
I have literally bought every card the url has had since 2018 and when they started the app I was a day 1 member! Idc what this new I hate the url narrative is! I love battle rap and will continue to support the url! Fuck what verb is talking bout
I get rum taking new guys and giving them a shot but footz hasn’t been around long enough to get this shot. Rum shouldn’t be battling him it needs to be a mix or upper echelon of battle rappers. Daylyt, Lux, mook, hitman, rematch Tay roc, goodz. Rum has done enough to get the big bags. Know if rum gets bodied that doesn’t make lux or mook want to battle him. So battles aren’t necessary for him. This is that battle
@@russell9411how are the duckin nitty. Respectfully nitty doesn’t clearly win battles against top tier battlers. Nitty is to good to be battling footz. Your name loses value as you battle niggas that’s not on your level. Giving a shot is cool but make them earn the shot. Footz hasn’t done enough to get a name like nitty. Look at all the top tiers. They not battling these up and comers unless it makes sense. It doesn’t make since to battle footz
@Twon2Fly312 look at the people we are comparing to. Rex ARS DNA JJDD SUGE CLIPS all names higher than BC. I’m def not a hater. Hater is me wanting to be Bill collector. I’m a fan of battle rap. I don’t have to agree with what you’re saying. BC is not a juggernaut in battle rap. If you say he is that’s cap.
Who’s the guy that said just between me and you I was pose to battle rum???😂😂👀👀 bro u saying it on the internet it AINT between y’all 😂😂😂 it’s between us 😂😂😂
Ok wait a minute want verb doing the battle everybody first nitty doing da same shit on da real he gotta battle whoever cause everybody literally ducking my man's just like Bud give him who he want watch it get dark for niggas
Are you not listening???? They not thirsty for battles hence why he hasn’t battled in forever but when he comes out he gets the elite bat & dips again. Rum battling Larry the cable guy weekly lol
EVERYONE is missing the biggest issue. Most of these veteran battle rappers have poor money management. THAT is why they're taking these random battles.🤷🏽♂️
‘aint nobody buying this sht but 3letterman’ 💀💀😭
😅😅😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rum and Danny next battle is on the train station 😂😂😂
These younger battlers have no idea how to create a brand for themselves that will be sustainable. That's why verb and these guys have been around for 13+ years. It goes beyond rapping
I wouldn't necessarily call Nitty young. His first notable battle was against Arsonal on KOTD in 2014 which is even before Geechi got serious with battling. So Nitty has been around long enough to know the game. Maybe he's just not built for that next level. His skill is unquestionable but his ability to build hype and a story around a battle leaves a lot to be desired.
GEECHI and Eazy do
it ain’t that bruh he just don’t care
Aye rum a single father he gotta feed them kids
What lux nd verb is talking bout is why the battlerappers were mad at eazy cause he realized taking all these fights won’t get him more money, not everybody can have a tay roc n dna type story
Everytime 3letterman catch sum smoke he either wanna say wassup to somebody or change the subject 😂😂😂😂
No one understood this concept better that Eazy he was strategic surpassed Rum with less battles
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Maybe Rum needs the money? We have no idea what these guys are dealing with in their personal lives. We all know why Danny does it.
@@Nestle245 bigger more strategic battles might equal more money
Surpassed rum? No he didn’t
Surpassed rum in what?? He just DIED TO GHEECHI
It's a fine line between giving up and coming Emcees shots and battling too much
Rumm Nitty either needs a significant pay increase or he needs his job back at Walmart.
I love quest and lux and verbs energy
When the gods talk we listen
Gods? Damn bro
I agree Nitty could manage his career a little better , not taking all these random new guys .
but I also agreee that LUX NEED TO COME OUTSIDE .
I understand the draw a battle with Hitman could create , but niggas been outside calling Lux name for years . then to take someone who barely said anything about you before high quality battlers that been calling you out for forever makes it look a way .
Lux vs Hitman was supposed to happen years ago actually.
Why should a giant care if the ants are calling out his name??
And what's wrong with paying attention when another giant calls you out??
Lux is in the right.
Rum can wait till he does a little more growing. Damn.
@@papastokely5993 Rum has done more in the culture in the last 10 years than Lux. Enough protecting these fossils
@@WizKiddAnt91 This that young and naive talk... It’s all good loved one... Lux will make more sense when you grow too
@@papastokely5993 respectfully, get off that man testicles. Dawg ain’t did shit in a decade my boi
With this logic, set up Lux vs Bigg K then 👀
You actually right here, he’s well deserving based off what they saying.
Considering K just clearly beat Mook *and* won against Rex, you might be onto something here.
*Nitty gonna end up like JC and Chilla to what I like to categorize them as 'Lyrical JOURNEYMEN'. And it's the generic simpleton NPC fans that be like "it's called battle rap, not battle brand/marketability" or some goofy ass shit thinking they're saying something clever that always disagree when it comes to this topic😂*
@@veemajor1721 *Nitty still has to move smart, Con is gonna give him that Lux treatment too and ignore his ass if he keeps downplaying his brand battling anybody.*
@@Dadee3 Facts, Con doesn't even care for battle rap like that anymore but if he did, Nitty is not moving the needle for him to feel like the opportunity is worth it. It's like people refuse to understand battle rap has been a business for the past decade plus. If you present ANYONE with a choice between a Hitman Holla bag and a Rum Nitty bag, they are taking Hitman 10 times out of 10.
@@jreel *Werd*
Move smart how, Daylight been sitting down, not battling n waitin on a Lux battle n what happened
@@titowilliams7651 Actually Dalyt isn't waiting. He's the one they're waiting for. Lux and Lyt all said he had his label situation as to why it hasn't happened yet.
As a fan it seems like a lot of Battle rappers don’t know how to make money outside of rapping. Except a few they just won a rap all day terrible management
Big K really can shake the culture if he calls out lux! What lux gone say if Big K says “ I already 30’d Mook”
I don’t get it because Gotti is basically doing the same thing
Tay roc ruined URL wit the slade thing then eazy left 😂😂😂😂
You would have thought Rum would have learned from JC. Rum nitty is not a draw. Dam good battle rapper, best puncher ever but he's not a huge draw.
Because everybody keep duckin him!!! Stfu him and ace had the best promotion of summer madness
@russell9411 how old are you, 12, 13? Who has ducked him? He's battled a lot of people. You said STFU...what you mad Rum not a top draw? Be mad at Rum for not branding himself properly. Aim the STFU at Rum when he ask to battle people that's definitely ticket sellers and complain when he can't get them cuz he not a ticket seller. Tell RUM stfu for battling Footz. 🤣🤣🤣 You must be the Rum Nitty boot licker PBW was talking about.
@@russell9411 Rum could draw if the URL would promote the battles. He called out Calicoe, Lux, Conceited, etc. They all create narratives to duck Nitty.
Tay Roc and Rum need to get away from URL 😂 I don’t know why he battling Foots , I hate his name, the url is obviously trying to build talent but this is sad
All this talking and niggas still ducking imagine rappers not rapping lux need to come outside 🌵🌵🌵
Lol all that sht just went right over ur head huh..
He don’t have to come outside everyday. He still outside
@ghost420and69 Bro let’s keep it real Lux can rap with any pen dude in history whether mainstream or battle rap,so that’s a battle rap narrative making people like u think he’s scared to test his pen and if u know bars then u know I’m speaking facts.
@ghost420and69how is Nitty a pen guy when he only raps about guns or name flips?
@@sinceremarks8529that's just it they don't know bars this is a culture where they act like Nitty is incredible every battle and Lux is mid when he step out. Idk how ppl have Will beating Hollow.
This whole “Rum Battles too much” is a narrative cooked up to justify Lux ducking Nitty… imho If battle rap is a sport then the best should take all comers (pause)
Did you listen to their logic? He explained why he took the Calico battle. Create and buzz and be exclusive. Do you think Goodz, or say, Surf would battle Ace Amin or Footz? Absolutely not. Not now. Their buzz is not big enough. It’s business.
Do you think Jay Z or Beyoncé would collab with anyone? It has to make sense. It has to be someone that is special to them, or an ascending star.
Everything in life should be done with purpose.
Nitty aint nobody to duck lol
I’m taking notes 📝
If Nitty battled Foots on Gates of The Garden it would make sense but on URL, it’s straight disrespect especially if Foots wins 😅
So flare won hands down and url changed the stats he was winning for weeks then out the blue crip crip he winning.
It's like boxing but not boxing at the end of the day
I knew this was coming 😂😂😂😂
I get what they saying about Rums brand but no excuses not to run it with Rum! He give the younger class opportunities and he get the job done so you can’t say he losing. Regardless Rum would give them the fight they looking for
I dont know bruh… Rum’s biggest battles Hollow,Surf,Roc… were some of his subpar performances… I get giving the younger classes opportunities but damn how many..
Bro it's 🧢 .. Lux know Hitman easier.. he don't wanna see Rum Bars
Nitty doesn't win against top tiers 4real idk how a nigga can be a top pen and be 1 dimensional lol
They didn’t say he loses though. But he can’t see URL not having a proper plan for him, he should learn from Mike P
Nothing wrong with giving opportunities but at they same time they’re saying URL ain’t falling Lux with an offer for Rum lol and if they do they’re going to lowball Lux because of what they think of Rum
Honestly curious, why does Rum get so much shit when he’s more active and has more killers on his resume (from different eras) than Lux does ?
They not building up new battlers by giving them a shot. They need to bring a class of battle rappers up by then battling each other. Surf, Roc, John John, Hitman etc… came up battling each other. They didn’t need a shot from Lux or Mook or Rex
@@veemajor1721 I think the url don’t want battlers to get to big and have another Eazy situation. They have talent but they don’t have brands. The brand is the url not the battlers
The new class need to battle mid tiers guys like Holmzie or Ace Amin. They don’t deserve to battle Nitty.
@@cperkins5050 giving new guys big shots too early can hurt more than help. Sometimes they not ready for it or they don’t have a big enough organic core following for people to really care. People will tune in for the big name guy. Maybe watch the battle once then every other time they watch it just skip to the bigger name guy rounds
They ducking they gonna wait till rum get a clear lost and not take him watch cause he lost
So Daylyt Verb Calicoe, and Lux say Rum battling Footz is a bad move but fans say Lux is ducking 😂
Lmfaooo Verb do got a point but the d riders won't hear none of that
There's D riders and folks who keep it real. Truth is both these niggas don't want that smoke.
So verb a big draw? Cmon now
@@gkcinco8972uh...look at what he did for rbe...two of the most popular rbe battles ever have verb in them. Smack came to STL because of Verb not hitman...so yes hes a draw
@@gkcinco8972are you being serious 🤦🏾♂️
I’m seeing wait to much Lux without him battling. How can the player not even getting in the game talk about the starters. Lux been pulling a Kawhi Leonard since the geechi battle. Rum is out here on the court, pulled this same trick with Jc. Battle man or stop talking about em.
Exacly, like what niggas suppose to jus sit n wait on u, nah niggas rum said str8 up I want lux but I battle for the sport n not jus for the name
Ayo I don’t know if y’all understand the pressure of being a single Parent like Nitty and don’t forget he wasn’t that active for a min dealing with real life so he got that hunger which is why it’s smart for Lux to duck him and DNA
My whole team said, "Damn, this nigga getting killed." 😂😂😂😂. Seriously, tho I really want to see Lux Vs JC on the roof or on a Volume. I just want JC to battle Verb first, on a Volume or in The Blue Room.
JC is in the same class as Nitty. Both elite guys with absolutely no star appeal.
IF YOU SCARED JUST SAY DAT LUX😂😂🤷🏾♂️
If that's the case he should have battled Danny Myers after he smoked Tay Roc
Rum just won champion of the year he is the hottest. Rum called you out!!!!!
Nah! Geechi is the hottest at the moment. Only reason we talkin bout Rum, respectfully, is because he battlin Footz!!! Not a top tier!? Think about it
Big K is hotter than Rum right now
Rum just battle plucking Ace Amin at Summer Maddness. He’s the best now, but he definitely isn’t the hottest. That would either be Big K, Easy or Geechi.
Lux don’t wanna battle nobody but hitman!
@@veemajor1721 I mean to be honest bro lux called hitman out in the verb battle and his last freestyle so he been wanted to battle hitman a couple years now! But yea that’s not really what people want
We want lux vs rum nitty dna daylyt
People are missing the point that it's the league not wanting to pay for the battle.
How u gon say cause dna lost lux you just lost too 😂😂😂😂
Yea but not to Jerry West lol respectfully tho
@@FreeYourLenz Jerry ain't no pushover but I do feel like if lux wasn't on the west Coast he would have had a better showing ... but then again I don't believe In excuses 🤦🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️😂😂
I fuck with Lux but if we going off his answer for Calicoe, then it should be the same for Rum. Rum has been the hottest battle rapper for years now and he's battled everyone other than Lux, Mook, and Verb when it comes to active vets. And he called you out, same as Calicoe. But now, there's a switch. Make it make sense.
He has Brizz, JJDD, Surf, Roc, Twork, Solomon, Shine, T-Top, Ill Will, JC, Geechi (x2), A-Ward, and more on his resume.
Calicoe was a star with a tremendous buzz. Nitty is just a great battler.
Now Nitty will Footz and Ace Amin on his resume. 🤣🤣l🤣
Facts they spit on
Lux is a 🦆 not playin
A smart man would ask why are they talking more about Rum Nitty than he is talking about them if he's not on their level....Them niggas scared of Rum
*Lux just want the bag vs Hitman, He not doing it for da culture (Omg Stop f’n lying) Clips Voice*
Nitty is outside and getting some money! Verb is lame asf for judging a man tryna get to the money!
Man fuck that he makin excuses, cant use the JC angle to where they battling too much cause Daylight called u out and been sittin down not battling for the longest n still waitin.
JC, DANNY AND RUM ALL EFB none of them get the bigger picture, they're ALL chasing Lux and MOOK BUT willing to battle stop signs, those 3 have given more than enough shots over the past 5 years. Oversaturating their brands. Lux G.O.D. Diss track like his battle verses aged like Sicilian wine.
Some people are great at what they do, but thats not the greatest thing they do.. rum might not wanna be all in the media like eazy is right now, and maybe he with whatever smoke.. has rum spoke on this yet or elaborated to why or how he moving in his eyes?
Imma check out that ryda album
I have literally bought every card the url has had since 2018 and when they started the app I was a day 1 member! Idc what this new I hate the url narrative is! I love battle rap and will continue to support the url! Fuck what verb is talking bout
Of course, he would act a woman out of all the men. She is not going to day your name. Give it up.. Verb is worse than her and jealous he is not her
DNA coming off a lost?? Didn’t this man just get killed by gotti?
I get rum taking new guys and giving them a shot but footz hasn’t been around long enough to get this shot. Rum shouldn’t be battling him it needs to be a mix or upper echelon of battle rappers. Daylyt, Lux, mook, hitman, rematch Tay roc, goodz. Rum has done enough to get the big bags. Know if rum gets bodied that doesn’t make lux or mook want to battle him. So battles aren’t necessary for him. This is that battle
They duckin him!!! Nitty fed up
@@russell9411how are the duckin nitty. Respectfully nitty doesn’t clearly win battles against top tier battlers. Nitty is to good to be battling footz. Your name loses value as you battle niggas that’s not on your level. Giving a shot is cool but make them earn the shot. Footz hasn’t done enough to get a name like nitty. Look at all the top tiers. They not battling these up and comers unless it makes sense. It doesn’t make since to battle footz
@Twon2Fly312 he didn’t clearly beat any of them at all. Damn sure didn’t clear K shine
@Twon2Fly312 bill collector isn’t a name that holds weight in sorry.
@Twon2Fly312 look at the people we are comparing to. Rex ARS DNA JJDD SUGE CLIPS all names higher than BC. I’m def not a hater. Hater is me wanting to be Bill collector. I’m a fan of battle rap. I don’t have to agree with what you’re saying. BC is not a juggernaut in battle rap. If you say he is that’s cap.
Who’s the guy that said just between me and you I was pose to battle rum???😂😂👀👀 bro u saying it on the internet it AINT between y’all 😂😂😂 it’s between us 😂😂😂
Lux choke half The round away vs cal an yall still said lux won smh
I think Lux material was better than Gotti but the culture got him losing so Rum definitely shouldn't be waiting on someone who lost last two or three
Rum stupid man smfh he tooo good to be taking on these bunsssss
Has she been and rum nitty battled before???
Ok wait a minute want verb doing the battle everybody first nitty doing da same shit on da real he gotta battle whoever cause everybody literally ducking my man's just like Bud give him who he want watch it get dark for niggas
Speak english
Am convinced lux broke he so desperate for a payday nothing wrong wid dat just stop lying about it 😂😂😂it’s sad he a grown man y lie
Are you not listening???? They not thirsty for battles hence why he hasn’t battled in forever but when he comes out he gets the elite bat & dips again. Rum battling Larry the cable guy weekly lol
Did lux not just lose to gotti?
Whats funny is lux get destroyed by Gotti and thinks he should automatically get hitman.....but tells rum he hasnt earned a lux battle righr now lol.
Battling after his bedtime destroyed Lux. They can have that same battle today in Iowa and Lux wins 2-1 or 30.
@@cperkins5050 excuses are a sign of weakness. Lux doesnt win on the road much
Rum nitty the midtier God
He’s too great for this. He put in his work. He need to put pressure on URL to negotiate for bigger battles for him.
Nitty been ran out of raps smh
EVERYONE is missing the biggest issue. Most of these veteran battle rappers have poor money management. THAT is why they're taking these random battles.🤷🏽♂️
Are those particular vets don't get paid like they should because they fucked up they brand ..I think that's what they talking about